Not sure what your post meant, but I am not a flipper. Only did it once after I had made a nice tidy profit. CNUV hasn't fit that criteria yet.

why settle for a million or two when we could have $5-$10M. This stock s/b in the pennies NOW. They have product, distribution, low overhead and willing customers.

WHY ARE WE IN THE TOILET? Because we miss every deadline and never meet commitments. It's a shame. This could really be a beautiful growth stock.

Haven't sold a share and own quite a bit. In for the long haul, but the POM POM raising and cheerleading is tiresome.

Because all of those moves were to facilitate the deal for the large holders and the Surgline folks and had nothing to do with their concern for CNUV shareholders. Let's wait and see when the deal is finalized and how "good" it is for you and me.

If I am wrong, then I will admit it.

I'm with Creepin here. I am very suspicious of this entire deal. Everyone thinks it's a R/M and I smell a R/S. Some will say it's semantics. It is not.

The guys from Surgline dont' care two hoots about us CNUV holders and Fong is intetrested in Fong - make no mistake about that. If we make out it's a by product of Fong getting a great deal for him.

We are along for the ride and like everyone else, hoping it works out, but none of the primary parties gives two craps about us.

Sorry for being a little negative, but I am tired of all the POM POM hoopla. This stock has been a dog for the past few months and let's call it like we see it.

Good for you Creepin. Finally someone who calls it like it is instead of being a cheerleader.

IMO of course.

Clever, we need news on the Big Box Stores for Back to School. If we miss it this year it would be two years in a row.

That's 350K units - Sales of over $3M - can you say stock price rise.

We need status on the Back To School orders to the box stores - Wal-Mart, Target, etc. This is about 350K units. We miss this one, we are doomed to this share price until Christmas season, at least. May be here forever.

I did. I backfilled my conversion, but I still don't think we should be penalized for it.

Simple, I am in this for me. I understand your position as well, but I am lookinm out for number 1 here, that's all.

In the long run, I hust hope we all make something out of this. Been here a long time. Just want this to be a positive. Whatevfer happens, happens.

BTW, my opinion matters about as much as a grain of sand in a desert.

Obviously, a major difference of opinion. But that is why we are here, correct.

I will stand by my position. Only time will tell.

Given that some of us took the risk to convert to GRAF, I feel the conversion now should be greater than 200 to 1. Many who converted payed more than the current price and we should not be penalized so that the current SDVI holders who paid less get the benefit.

I vote for 400 or 500 to 1.

At 500 to 1, the new share structure would allow for a great PPS growth based on strong game sales and profit.

The O/S shares would be in the 15 million range, providing there is no further dilution for any reason and a good sales season would yield about $.10 EPS. At a 10 multiple we are looking at $1 share price by q-1 12.

I understand. I will watch with interest.

Just for the record, bought a little more on friday. I'm in. I just get squeamish when I see a pattern. The pattern hasn't produced as yet, but I will trust some of you who have been trading these OTC's longer than me.

That may be true, but the PR just leads me to be suspicious. The way they go about this is the same communication model / style and I remain cautiously suspicious.

If it smells like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then......

I recall a similar PR on the Freya Acq. The same PR with different names this time. Same format, same pumping.

How many times are we going to fall for this?

I agree with a previuos poster, I beleive it when it happens.

Likelihood questionalble. Fong will get out with his money and we will hold the bag.

If I am wrong, I will admit it. Until then skeptical at best.

Sorry, good try though.

GLT us all.

call my cell

I hope it's daylight and not a train.

Although a Turbo Trainz might be ok.

I agree. I have to get home today to listen to that VCC. I will be more than an intertested listener.

I hope so. I put a lot into that conversion. Would hate to get it going and coming.

Agreed - I want to know about the converted shares.

Money isn't the issue. Trust is.

I have had enough let downs to have some serious trust issues with the CEO's and direction of some of the pinks.

Fong can prove me wrong and it would be the first time it happened. Seen plenty of pumping for some of these pinkies with "experienced" CEOS's that went belly up or took the stock into oblivion.

We shall see. Don't like throwing good after bad.

IMO Obviously.

the news was well received - not.

rebound tomorrow - why. Nothing has changed.

Same company, same news, same everything.

This will move when they clarify the strategy and some details on Acq., sales / profit etc. Until then why would anyone buy new or buy more. There is nothing that is a confidence builder unless you have rose colored glasses, which apparently there are some on this board, but the market is saying otherwise - so far.

This is my opinion and I reserve the right to say I was wrong. we shall see.

Haven't sold and won't buy more.

Let's not get carried away here - Wal mart of medical devices. I would be happy just to see the rev/ebidta numbers.

Ya think.

Fair enough, but you must admitm you were orgasmic on Freya.

Now all we need is for Mr Fong to give us some details on Rev/EBITDA etc on SurgLine so all the Ihubbers can get that feeling again, right.

Well, when they announced the Freya deal, everyone went orgasmic. Now the party line is - well they really didn't have revenue yet, so SurgLine is better because they have products and distribution.

Come on, fess up that you wanted Freya and now that CNUV is no longer playing that card, you wrote it off and rationalized the new companmy.

It may turn out fine, but let's be real here. EVERYONE and I MEAN EVERYONE was giddy about the Freya deal.

I get that. But this is way off track.

yeah! Hopes dashed. Expectations in the toilet.

you can't put enough perfume on a pig to get out the smell.

How can anyone look at this and be upbeat.

You lose on a company that complements your vision to buy a company that doesn't fit.

And this seems good to you how?

That's a stretch

So how is this good news.

How does this complement their core competency?

How does this fit strategically?

Freya made sense.

This is like - Oh, I couldn't make the Freya deal happen, so I will go out and buy something, anything to look like I am doing something.

Unless there is a higher plan here, this makes NO SENSE. What the hell do they know about the medical device business.

The web site for Surgline is pretty pathetic.

Luke took the risk and put himslef out there, so don't feel bad. He obviously is confortable walking the plank.

Not crying - still holding becasue I beleive in the stock. Just tired of all the excited rhetoric that means absolutely nothing and doesn't do anything to move the stock forward.

When Mr. Fong is ready, he will tell us what we need to know.

Agreed - only relevant, factual information. The board would be very quiet, but at least the Pom Pom's would be put away.

Don't you folks ever get tired of saying almost time, should be soon, won't be long.

It's now a month and a half and we are still saying "almost", "close", "soon".

It's tiresome. Post something relevant that has some facts. Your credibility is waning.

I wait patiently. If you beleive in this, then no need to try to engender interest.

I don't but others may/do. JMO opinion is terms of getting "labeled" on Ihub. There are those that are a little mean spirited here and you don't want to get a bad rap/rep.

Again JMHO.

The only way this moves is with a robust Pr. It's time for Mr. Fong to fish or cut bait. we have been more than fair and patient.

Stop predicting - credibility becomes an issue and makes it look like you are pumping with no basis - IMO.

Hollow posts don't help our cause - again in IMHO.

Ok, all I am saying is the next step is Mr. Fong's and we shouldn't be left to speculate and read minds.

Get a VCC or something and tell us what is going on. I can deal with bad news. I can't deal with silence.

That's wonderful. So for the rest of my life I have a summer swoon to look forward to.

Don't you think it's about time we transitioned to something bigger and better and leave the "old" days behind. I do.

We have 4 games etc. The summer swoon has nothing to do with history. It's about current malaise and tiredness of waiting for our CEO to come clean.

In 1964, Dusty Springfield had a song called Wishin and Hopin - no smart a** remarks about age.
The first verse lyrics are below. This is where I feel I am with CNUV.

Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin'

I think it's time for Mr Fong to provide an update. Not explaining the current status after setting this board into a frenzy is not what one would expect from an experienced CEO, IMO of course.

Been there, done it and would never keep shareholders in limbo like this. Communicate, Communicate, Communicate.