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in a REAL world, a "good"-CEO doesn't TEASE-what-he-cant-produce
he's supposed to benefit from the first time he learned this lesson…YRS ago
still waiting for a Jasper based, written PR about the great news
where's the Ipoint purchase, wheres the Apple app, where's the $66M in art??
not just ONE delivery not on time…………try almost 90% of his "deliveries"
makes him look like something much less than a CEO
everyone preaches PATIENCE,,maybe the CEO should have been patient before he promised Oct 2013
treat others how you like to be treated
just preaching………..
will watch it..KSS and Fannie are 2 just begging for a 10%…….
KKohls just got BUY through Bank o America, and fannie is due for another
NTEK is getting killed by the and momo on Foleys posts and his possible prison sentence, BUT it gonna burst after the 18th(if he gets prison wait tip after the dump) if he gets no time then play the momo hour by hour
tried to point out the mistake on OWOO, the OTC just yanked the former CIK and attributed it to the current………..sorta tried to lead them to a solution because no one offered the reason for it……as usual the boards all over have the "rabid" response thing going, without thinking first
The CIK# is the same for OWOO and the-filing posted today
seems weird, a mistake???? both Houston based
NTEK..what ya think..sink-or-swim??
I bought my $2K share at 145ish, sold 50% when it broke support at 128-132
looking to find the next of the 70 Millionare
trying to follow the thought…DONT force a questionable buy just because you haven't bought one lately……..NTEK surprised when no bounce, but I can see why the downward now, the question is mores, DO THEY HAVE SOME STUFF, or not……….I think they have weaved an intricate story with some decent tech experience, but Foley could be slammed, and he is the BRAIN of the programming
what's the difference in"shorts scared"-PPS-action-AND"slap-da-ask"-action???
can someone with NTEK and CHART expertise show the moves?????
I play FLIP or long
PLEADING guilty means he knew his crime, and-did-it-knowingly
this wasn't a "mistake" or usual business
the lines of morality were blurred, and I think people can rightly wonder if he still has that problem
decent site, gag-laugh at the 2012CES tag-on-right-side
for the life of me, the 3D is a gimmick worth one, two views, its way too distracting for the eye to take in the whole screen of action……………on usual TV size, that the REAL world lives in
they don't, most just want reasonable discussion…...
it looks"promising"...to-say-it-legitimitzes-TDEY--not-logical
TDEY has to earn that stripe on its own merit
TDEY wants to legitimatize its reputation so bad it is taking short cuts……sorta like Mike Tyson saying he's born again
as far as smart investing goes, taking the initial investment off the table is smart, then what a trader does with the gains after that is the difference between BRAINS and EGO
the PR reads as a Jasper resume, hoping-that-will-rub-off-on-TDEY
Jasper is the BIG DOG in this JV, and they didn't write the PR, so its "upward association" hopes for TDEY-------I get that, been there
NO costs were given for the project, no time goals were given, and no Jasper person was quoted as touting a "TDEY" deal……….., the Paterson bit was from his talk show
CANT take the "spots" off of Vaksar and the grime gang with wannabe JV's….action does that
WE ARE IN THE PENNYS…….this stuff gets smoked all the time………..be careful…..prolly FLIP until this thing stabilizes
what Ortiz and Vaksar did w/Jasper is NOT-KNOWN-to-shareholdders
maybe it was a Trifecta "brother-in-law" deal like the Tassan connection for $66M of Kinkades(we all know the CFO is Vaksar's brother-in-law…right??)
they haven't told us how the Jasper deal went down…looks good on the surface, but thats what PENNY pumps are all about………….
I do not doubt that the inner circle has some selective tidbits that the 2 BULLS regaled them with
but 'lil ole' shareholders know nothing of how Jasper got in this deal
AND WE DONT know anything about the financials of the deal either
did Jasper put out the PR????usually the BIG-DOG-does-the-talking
since Vaksar is involved, and TDEY has no money to fund any JV project………..
and a whole bunch of new preferreds just got mentioned
other foot needs to come down, along with the financial details of the "venture"
I'm still reeling from the Trifecta's Ipoint dilemma, the $66M of art secured with WHAT funds and the iOS app that was promised Oct 30th. so pardon if this gets taken with a LOGICS grain of salt
good news makes TDEY go up..WHAT-HAPPENED-TODAY????
maybe the news needs to settle in, agreed
Jasper NEWS could be good, but the details will be the reason for it to be good……the financials of the deal mean EVERYTHING…..so lets see them before we claim 5 cent stock
Joint ventures usually are just an way to acknowledge a working partner, not revenue streams or service contracts…….so no money coming from Jasper is my guess
if its not accretive(profitable) to TDEY, the PPS doesn't improve…..and by "improve" I mean it STICKS
defending the company "PR promises" reveals the insecurity of the concept…be patient, if the company BACKS up what they tout, then the PPS will rise……...right
I don't short ANY stocks, but I do know the inner mechanisms of MM's and the PENNYS, and the BIG money doesn't play here because it is a much QUICKER way to jail than being deceptive on the big board stocks, the moves down here, if egregious, get noticed RIGHT away
what most skeptical investors are doing is this….. informing the newbies of TDEY officers history and most likely the future of the management which runs the Trifecta
thats the BIGGEST hump TDEY needs to CURE…….big task
Foley is already on PROBATION,,,the-sentencing-hearing will determine the length of incarceration (zero days to 5 yrs is possible)……possible additional probation conditions, and the $ fine assessed
REMEMBER, this is for a crime Foley ALREADY plead guilty to,,, he was convicted
this is serious and should be addressed by NTEK corporate, as of this date, I have never seen an official comment from NTEK on this officers' civil conviction sentencing
IMO, he will get a serious fine and strongly termed probation with serious parameters that hinder his extra curricular work for NTEK…….. if jail time……60 days
interesting thing about that no-name co
it REMAINED private, gained venture capital through the implementation of its SERVICES, proved itself viable for a few more years, then went PUBLIC
they struggled first, didn't break any laws, gained support through being smart, efficient and PROVING their meddle…
when a company tries to raise money BEFORE they do the above, it comes with great RISK and by most % results,,,,, they fail and leave several investors with no return for the risk
is NTEK gonna survive? hard to say if you look at the REAL turmoil that surrounds this board
honestly, I can think of much more appropriate, INTELLIGENT comparisons for NTEK, none being in googles category
a TRACK RECORD will legitimatize TDEY--nothing-else
thats the problem when you start with a Vaksar reputation and can't meet self imposed tech deadlines
this is not about shareholders intentions, MM's games……..its about management's capabilities and securing the right results before telling the world that TDEY is great
funny how an investor wants the PPS to go up, but many refuse to discuss the true battle about the reality of the challenge of success……….the barriers here can't be wiped away with PR's…
…action and revenue generating deals are whats needed, not "collaborate with" shop talk
the NEWS and the market is dropping the PPS……….WHY???? if your answer is "shorts" find another place to play, because the PR game is the LIFEBLOOD of PENNYS, and if "shorts" are the problem connected to this NEWS, then its not gonna work here ever, because every time NEWS comes out, so do the "shorts" right?????
from Meet and Greet, part 2…
your quote, with my comments in bold
I might add more,BUT AFTER David Foley's-court-sentencing-DEC18
Meet & Greet scoop….nice place,good food……
report direct from 2 colleagues that attended
1.) 35 people MAX, the rest were servers, home furnishing store employees, SWRF entourage
2.) 3D TV show was compromised by what Ortiz described as a "TV glitch"….."but I'lll show anyone who wants to see it"………regular normal 3D viewing, unusual because its new, CONTENT is the big question, and Ortiz answered NO questions on content. the 3D app was shown in the "back room",50 feet away from the dining area, in an office that fit 4 people comfortably….VERY TACKY
3.) NOTHING but softball questions were asked, NO FINANCIAL INFO was given out, matter of fact, the meeting seemed like the Ortiz bad joke sideshow because no attendee had anything pressing to discuss, and Ortiz had NOTHING serious to say that the hasn't already said on tweets or in PR's.
4.) Ortiz's same off color comments and lacking professionalism as a corporate officer, Ortiz would rather be your FRIEND versus earn your respect through ACTION, lots of STALE air moments
ORTIZ talked for only 15 minutes, answered 6-7 questions…….. also, hardly anyone could hear what the questions were, Ortiz never repeated the questions, as a PRO would
5.) Most of the attendees were 45+ yrs old…..eclectic looking bunch to say the least…...…not a suit and tie in the crowd………certainly a docile group of investors, NOTHING else
6.) Eddie and the 4 "cool dudes" sit behind the speaking area, offset from the attendees, must be the hip, country group as they all dressed as such, the video shows this "chummy" bunch to be the Ortiz circle, as the CEO high fives and chortled ONLY with this bunch….somewhat dismissive to the other attendees
7.) Pics posted are accurate, its a home furnishings store with a 50 person dining room/bar SET RIGHT INTO the showroom floor…….so NO presentation equipment, no high tech monitors or large TVs, NO SCREENS for Ortiz to show the MAJOR advantages or nuances of Trifecta's services.
8.) 5-6 people in the crowd were store/catering workers that mingled about
9.) NO NEW NEWS OR NEW ANNOUNCEMENTS MADE
10.) 1st speaker was nothing but an "edify" Eddie speech, full of NOTHING that would enhance the PPS
ONE KINCADE 3D portrait……… a giclee' (google it)………ONE[/b
3D demo….was in very small back room, bad presentation space, images are neat, what you'd expect, but not necessarily entertaining because the 3D aspect is quite distracting from the whole scene….opinion
iPHONE update……….Ortiz said 2 sentences about the iOS app……"Mac emailed me last around 3 PM today and needed some image re-do",,,,,thats all he said about TIMING
iPOINT TV update………Ortiz said "didn't want to devalue the brand we built up, so we turned down the "reduced investment offer made by the investor group that was buying the tech??"…..this is STILL A BIG HUNNHHHHHH as to explaining………. "what is going on with the acquisition"
35 PEOPLE ATTENDED, no need to reschedule the other meet and greet, as "attendance capacity" was the given reason to cancel the Nov 22 meeting
NO NAMETAGS…….NO CORPORATE INFO, NO BUSINESS CARDS HANDED OUT…..ORTIZ had the same suit he wore to the first Meet & Greet……..all schtick and no substance
as my colleagues tell me, it was not much better than a neighborhood planning committee that wants to organize the annual BLOCK party…………………..
I'm a skeptic always, but I'd WANTED SOMETHING GOOD TO BE ANNOUNCED, NOTHING FOLKS
GOOD LUCK, THIS thing is suffering from Vaksar's presence and his share selling antics
Kinkade died in 2012, and he had a stable-of-"assistants" which primarily re-touched his reproductions…..yes thats right…Kinkade painted a painting, had 1000's of that painting REPRODUCED, and had the "assistants" retouch them
he WAS the Henry Ford of mediocre art…not a badge of honor in the art world…then he became the most COUNTERFEITED artist EVER
so because of his reproduction assembly line, he sold more canvasses, but they aren't worth even a tenth of what they were sold for in the years 1985-2000…..from 2000-2012, hardly a gallery survived that had predominately carried his paintings
He was a Christian based faith sympathizer who used that religious mantra to sell thousands to "believers" …………..unfortunately the last decade of his life saw him take a mistress and have his wife divorce him after documented, public alcoholic rages and physical abuse…….he died in his prime, without his children around, and without his faith that made him so prolific
his brother sells the only Kinkade certified art over the TV auctions sites, the rest is questionable inventory from years of surplus distributor purchasing when Kinkade's appeal collapsed after his infidelity and untimely death
my review was removed as off topic, while EVERY OTHER post, in that time gap, on that board was kept…….hows that for balance??
at last nights TDEY/SWRF/PHBG Meet and Greet, Vaksar never spoke about his fraud suit settlement concerning his ARTS/Artfest inventory, imagine that
sure he could, but there was NO NEWS-to-announce
all he has to do is PR it before opening bell……..
the artwork side of the Trifecta is so mired in the former lawsuit ridden ARTS inventory, and a non existent demand for Kinkade's art…..
(Kinkade's brother sells ALL the Kinkade art that people want, EXCLUSIVELY on his Kinkade website and throughout the TV promo sales infomercial auction sites)…which has…….
…NOTHING to do with PBHG and some so called $66M of inventory………….that outrageous number alone is enough to keep this stock heading down, back to .0001 where it was just 2 months ago
issuing stock-on-any-exchange allows the SEC to-officially or unofficially attend any public company shareholder meeting
no worries for the ethical issuer
we all agree the food and decor was nice, the-CONTENT-of-the-meeting was very lacking
attendees all agree that the 3D demo was in a back room
attendees all agree that no new news was announced
attendees all agree the iOS3D app update was "wait some more"
attendees all agree that the iPOINT TV explanation was "wait some more"
(edit) yes, we all agree the 3D was neat, cool, groovy, as expected, but I've seen that before, and I'm not buying or replacing all my TV's for a 3D capable TV and paying $8 a month to view a distracting(3D is always distracting from the whole scene of action) set of mostly B rate movie content
there was no difference in what I viewed, versus others, just my point of view which is one of a reasonable PENNY skeptic, I do not forget the treacherous world where I'm investing
Iphone playback put me right in the room, 1st person experience
the reason given to unceremoniously(day of meeting) postpone the Nov 22nd meet and greet was "attendance capacity", and only 35 people showed yesterday…….the Biblical Arts museum holds 250, Ive been there for art auctions
Ortiz isn't schooled on the ART, its Vaksar's thing…..
Ortiz said literally ONE sentence about the Kinkade 3D relationship, my colleague iPhoned his talk
Vaksar's friend spoke about the "desirous" Kinkade artwork, and was frankly, doing nothing more than trying to sell the art concept to the investors……..NO explanation from Vaksar on distribution or where inventory is located, or the means that people can view the art itself(art is a very "tactile" medium, you need a great website or a showroom setting to show the interested clientele the art they are purchasing…….unless its just a "poster on the wall" kind of marketplace
no mention by Vaksar of any art world cross marketing or "ETSY like" marketing partnership, just his huckster mentality that so infected the ARTS debacle
the Meet and Greet was in a dining room, poor lighting and no presentation of ANY business strategy was unitized(no screen show, no large TV demo for all to view art inventory, no "media" show from a network and media company
as I posted, the 3D TV demo was NOT shown in the main room, you had to go to the "back room office" to view it in a cluttered office on a hastily arranged 32 inch monitor……..app looked good, but that is a "one time" special effect, no need to subscribe to that….dazzling in a certain "Ripleys Believe it or Not" museum way
NO…NO…NO…ONE KINCADE giclee"..worth $200……
thats including the frame costs of $150………Kincade is the most counterfeited and diluted artist in America….his paintings have become "couch art" as one shareholder put it…………for college bound theology students
check out my M & G review on SWRF
hows this stock treating ya?
check out my MEET and Greet review
Ortiz quote---he wouldn't answer "BASHER-type"-questions
hard to speak freely when the CEO labels tough questions that way………..not to say the risk being ousted from a meeting, it could be trouble
LOUD and CLEAR by "Vaksar"---no deal-with-Motovox
STATUS is no deal until there is a deal
direct quote from previuosly posted email from E Vaksar:
I guess if I say I offered to buy Microsoft for $100B, sent them a letter with said content….THEN with this above quote (non)LOGIC……... I COULD SAY I'm acquiring Microsoft……..do you think it would EVER happen????
there is another post that takes OUT OF CONTEXT, this HUGE fact, that Motovox hasn't even responded to communication, let alone HAVE ANY INTEREST in a deal with PRPM
HAS ANYONE HERE SeeN ANY MOTOVOX COMMENT ON THIS pseudo merger?? AFTER 4 MONTHS???
LOI PR'd in Aug2013
to CEO&Chairman..please hand out detailed SHARE STRUCTURE and financial statements for the Trifecta, you will have much more time in the Q & A period if you have those available
looking forward to tonights unveilings
are you saying a MAJORITY of FB LIKES-are-from-Istanbul,Turkey?????
ONE city, 4000 miles from the MAIN market for 3D???
and somehow TDEY has marketed and caught the attention of these discerning tech players????????? (something tells me 80% of Turkey is below $20K income per capita)
so the origin of the LIKES is traceable???
…...if true, THAT IS major RED FLAG, and a HUGE thorn in managements side from a PROMO "manufactured run" point of view
come on folks, where's the believabiliity behind this???????
VERIFIABLE history is what smart people PREDICT-the-future-with
Ortiz(TDEY CEO) resume is very important to a REAL BIZ…….
of course if playing PENNYS………..watch out
so if the past is "OFF LIMITS" to determine a CEO's character, then TORONTO's your city(Rob Ford, crack smoking Boss man)…….also the unofficial birthplace of the PENNYS
when the 3D APP gets 30K downloads a month,then-ya-got-sumthin
at 400-600 a month,,,,,,ya got sumthin called NUTHIN
my buddies will see ya tomorrow, if it doesn't get "SUNNED OUT"
the CEO said "cancelled" in the filing..what-could-be-clearer????
attached is the link:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2013/11/22/pyslvswrf.png
here's the rub which most PENNY newbies don't understand,,,,,,FILINGS are the BIBLE when it comes to factual statements…………
………...PR's and CC's are covered by the "forward looking statement/SAFE harbor disclosures" which allows for ANYTHING said to be rescinded without much penalty
same goes for the Meet and Greet 2nd mtg which was cancelled at the last moment……it was FACT until the company decided it wasn't(the day of…scheesch)
so what would be more FACT??????
experienced investor goes with the filing……………BUT certainly not the momo crowd
so the Trifecta isn't RELEVANT here????better-tell-Ortiz-tomorrow
then its best to refrain from referring to Trifecta companies……
…the former ARTS ticker is directly related to this company and Vaksar through many pieces of verifiable DD
FAKE companies feed newbies 24/7---Stanford/Madoff-spent-wildly
why do you think 3 OTC co's just got suspended by the SEC in the last month???because they were legit???----WRONG
they all spent money FAKING people out of their money
the M & Greet is a perfect place for some REAL talkers to ASK some BIG questions of the CFEO and Vaksar………...
this is true, Eddie handled museum pieces like they were personal items………..
an ART no-no if there ever was one……….
also when the curator found out that Vaksar was playing up a promo for the Kincade 3D prints at PB**………….the Kinkade pieces were there for an official museum exhibit, not for the M & G,