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Great post excel,
Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall BRUISE THY HEAD, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
...Thats where you got that from! lol =]
They say this is one of the first promises.
Where the seed of the woman,a manchild (Jesus) will one day defeat evil.(satan)
Though it might hurt some, we will be victorious.
In genesis 3:14 it mentions that satan - and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life.
Remember that we are from dust.
Like excel mentioned...
THE DEVIL LITERALLY "FEEDS" OFF OF US, WHEN WE SAY YES TO HIM.
*Jesus is the BREAD OF LIFE. Our WELLSPRING.
100 Biblical Names and Titles of Christ
Dan Corner
The whole Bible is filled with references to Jesus in one way or another. Beyond that, the primary message spread by the Lord Himself and his followers was to go directly to Jesus Himself, place a submissive-obedient faith and trust in him and continue [endure] to the end for salvation. It is very easy to see why we are directed by God to do this after noting the various ways the Lord Jesus is described by his many names and titles. Each refers to yet another important place or position that Jesus holds in God’s plan for man’s salvation. Please ponder how precious and preeminently important Jesus is for man’s salvation. The truth is: Jesus is the all-sufficient Savior. No other savior is needed besides Him or with Him. (Please know that the following is just a partial listing of the many Scriptural names and titles of the Lord. There are others not listed here.)
Advocate (1 John 2:1)
Almighty (Rev. 1:8; Mt. 28:18)
Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8; 22:13)
Amen (Rev. 3:14)
Apostle of our Profession (Heb. 3:1)
Atoning Sacrifice for our Sins (1 John 2:2)
Author of Life (Acts 3:15)
Author and Perfecter of our Faith (Heb. 12:2)
Author of Salvation (Heb. 2:10)
Beginning and End (Rev. 22:13)
Blessed and only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15)
Bread of God (John 6:33)
Bread of Life (John 6:35; 6:48)
Bridegroom (Mt. 9:15)
Capstone (Acts 4:11; 1 Pet. 2:7)
Chief Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20)
Chief Shepherd (1 Pet. 5:4)
Christ (1 John 2:22)
Creator (John 1:3)
Deliverer (Rom. 11:26)
Eternal Life (1 John 1:2; 5:20)
Gate (John 10:9)
Faithful and True (Rev. 19:11)
Faithful Witness (Rev. 1:5)
Faithful and True Witness (Rev. 3:14)
First and Last (Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13)
Firstborn From the Dead (Rev. 1:5)
Firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15)
Gate (John 10:9)
God (John 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; Rom. 9:5; 2 Pet. 1:1;1 John 5:20; etc.)
Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14)
Great Shepherd (Heb. 13:20)
Great High Priest (Heb. 4:14)
Head of the Church (Eph. 1:22; 4:15; 5:23)
Heir of all things (Heb. 1:2)
High Priest (Heb. 2:17)
Holy and True (Rev. 3:7)
Holy One (Acts 3:14)
Hope (1 Tim. 1:1)
Hope of Glory (Col. 1:27)
Horn of Salvation (Luke 1:69)
I Am (John 8:58)
Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4)
Immanuel (Mt. 1:23)
Judge of the living and the dead (Acts 10:42)
King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17)
King of Israel (John 1:49)
King of the Jews (Mt. 27:11)
King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16)
King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3)
Lamb (Rev. 13:8)
Lamb of God (John 1:29)
Lamb Without Blemish (1 Pet. 1:19)
Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45)
Life (John 14:6; Col. 3:4)
Light of the World (John 8:12)
Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5)
Living One (Rev. 1:18)
Living Stone (1 Pet. 2:4)
Lord (2 Pet. 2:20)
Lord of All (Acts 10:36)
Lord of Glory (1 Cor. 2:8)
Lord of lords (Rev. 19:16)
Man from Heaven (1 Cor. 15:48)
Mediator of the New Covenant (Heb. 9:15)
Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)
Morning Star (Rev. 22:16)
Offspring of David (Rev. 22:16)
Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9)
Our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13)
Our Holiness (1 Cor. 1:30)
Our Husband (2 Cor. 11:2)
Our Protection (2 Thess. 3:3)
Our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30)
Our Righteousness (1 Cor. 1:30)
Our Sacrificed Passover Lamb (1 Cor. 5:7)
Power of God (1 Cor. 1:24)
Precious Cornerstone (1 Pet. 2:6)
Prophet (Acts 3:22)
Rabbi (Mt. 26:25)
Resurrection and Life (John 11:25)
Righteous Branch (Jer. 23:5)
Righteous One (Acts 7:52; 1 John 2:1)
Rock (1 Cor. 10:4)
Root of David (Rev. 5:5; 22:16)
Ruler of God’s Creation (Rev. 3:14)
Ruler of the Kings of the Earth (Rev. 1:5)
Savior (Eph. 5:23; Titus 1:4; 3:6; 2 Pet. 2:20)
Son of David (Lk. 18:39)
Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14)
Son of Man (Mt. 8:20)
Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32)
Source of Eternal Salvation for all who obey him (Heb. 5:9)
The One Mediator (1 Tim. 2:5)
The Stone the builders rejected (Acts 4:11)
True Bread (John 6:32)
True Light (John 1:9)
True Vine (John 15:1)
Truth (John 1:14; 14:6)
Way (John 14:6)
Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24)
Word (John 1:1)
Word of God (Rev. 19:13)
JESUS can be fully trusted and relied upon 100% for our personal salvation. There is no surer source of truth, for he himself is the truth and only way to God (John 14:6). Yet, as the Bible exalts Jesus from cover to cover, Catholicism indirectly downplays him by their unscriptural exaltations of Mary. This is especially portrayed in Marian apparitions, pictures and statues where she is holding the baby Jesus in her arms as both wear a golden crown. Mary is the mature adult and Jesus is just the infant held and dependent on his mother’s help and strength.
Furthermore, without Scriptural backing, Catholicism also sometimes gives Mary the same exact titles which belong to Jesus alone—Life, Hope, the Way, Morningstar, etc. In fact, Catholicism has given their Mary more names and titles than the Bible has for the Lord Jesus, thus reflecting her importance to them in comparison to Jesus. (Please note: Catholicism’s Mary isn’t the Mary of the Bible, but instead a sinless, queen of heaven, who has been bodily assumed there and supposedly is the life, hope, way to God, refuge and protection for multitudes. Many Catholics have even consecrated themselves to that Mary.) Hence, there are multitudes of sincere Catholics who have been innocently mislead by their own teachers and leaders, about Christianity and salvation. They are trusting in: (1) Mary or (2) Jesus and Mary (sacraments, church membership) for salvation, as they have been directed, instead of Jesus alone, as their own Bibles declare. Remember this: the Scriptures have been given to make us wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus (2 Tim. 3:15-17). Therefore, even though many Catholics are sincere and devout, they are also in disobedience to Jesus’ commands and the Apostles directives regarding salvation.
The Real Christian
Jesus wants all to know who his real spiritual family is. He said of them that they put God’s word into practice, which includes having Jesus as the object of our faith for salvation. This is the foundational difference between a Catholic (as well as all other religious but unsaved people) and a Bible-defined Christian:
He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice." (Luke 8:21)
For all Catholics who wisely decide to reject what they have been taught by the priests, nuns, bishops, popes, etc. and go by the eternal word of God instead, remember the following: You need to leave the Catholic church just as a Mormon needs to leave Mormonism after getting saved and a Muslim needs to leave Islam after becoming a child of God. Catholicism is not the same as Biblical Christianity. You need to gather with other true Christians, be spiritually fed and worship God in spirit and in truth. Be sure to read our important article on Vital Truths for New Converts.
May God be pleased to use this simple article to open up the spiritual eyes of many Catholics to this dangerous, deadly salvation deception before it is too late. (Please pass this important article on to your Catholic friends and relatives. Precious souls hang in the balance.) God bless you. (Be assured this article was written out of Christian love for all who want to know about Biblical salvation.)
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I agree!
Hi Briboy,
Ya got me on the deletion factor?
Do elaborate =)
Godbless.
*You had personally mentioned about MUME before, so I figured a follow up with a little humor along with another chart play, LKRV would be alright. More of a Longer term(marathon) though more likely...than again QMMG exploded off the bottom within a week or so AFTER strong/real news. As many others do.
Have a great weekend still, and an even better Monday!
Actually after a R/S on LKRV...the shares momentarily had a $30 value on them, and this also traded on the Nasdaq a while back.
A slow, steady following can be seen in prior months back.
So at the current pps it is worth keeping on a back list.
LKRV-LETS TALK RECOVERY.....
Actually this is about the hottest celebrity issue out there right now.
On their website, their live broadcasts are quite interesting.
Helping others....I KNOW YOU CAN RELATE. =]
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
What about thriller.......
Hey Chart,
Been watchin your board a while now, great to see this one.
Wanted to be part of the postin crew around these parts this fine evening.
Sails are up, and ready to blast off.
Great concept.
May help change a lot things for people in the future.
Keep your eye on the stars, and chart your way through this vast universe, amongst all the sharks swimming out there.
ARRRRRRRRR! Godbless.
Hey Briboy
Congrads on the board help here as well!
Hey kodaman, you and your birds *^p .......=)
============
I know you will be a good/balanced addition here.
With a unique...sense of humor to boot! lol =]
Have a blessed night all, and lets pull resources together.
*Quick pick,
http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?MUME,lkrv|B
When mumes the word, lets talk! lol
LKRV/MUME-CHART
When mumes the word, lets talk. =]
*Some $$ potential here.
http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?MUME,lkrv|B
Posted by: VERITAS77
In reply to: terryt who wrote msg# 8216 Date:2/24/2007 8:47:56 PM
Post #of 8218
Hi terryt,
I like your profile quote:
Quote: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
Glad to see your interest here in THE BLESSED HOPE! =]
There are sooooo many different metaphors in scripture that allude to the coming of the Lord, it is amazing.
the truth is, a lot of the information originates in the old testament, and is really about events THAT ARE YET TO HAPPEN.
If you think about that, it is incredible.
Yes, Jesus IS the fulfillment of over 300 prophecies approx.
As far as his Equality/being God/ as THE triune deity.
As far as being the redeemer of man kind, through the cross in perfection, as well as resurrecting 3 days later.
As far as ending the sting to death for believers and sealing the fate of all unrighteous/ Christ rejecting souls, including the 1/3 fallen angels and Lucifer himself.
As far as declaring to be the creator, in which it( his creation-heaven and earth) will pass away.. BUT NOT ONE SINGLE JOT OR TITLE (dot of the i, or crossing of the t) ENDURES FOREVER.
As far as the 10 commandments in stone written by the finger of God, and now the NEW TESTAMENT written upon the stoney heart of mankind- BECOMING OUR JUDGE/MENT. God giving us a conscious (his laws written upon our hearts so that we are without excuse).
As far as ***now the topic at hand- "THE RETURN OF THE KING"
OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS....
-We've only just begun. =]
The truth of the matter is, the entire bible is interwoven, that to add/take away anything out of it, is to our demise.
Because we are finite, and God infinite- He knows exactly what each piece of the puzzle CONTAINS.
so, now that we are finally just at the beginning.... lol =]
Seriously though, there are alot of other word searches that we have yet to even delve into that is tangible to our conversation at hand.
It is good we are isolating events around "resurrection".
There is still verses that deal with:
1) His "appearing" (which can be- only momentarily)
2) His touching down on the MT Olives and the events around.
3) *A key word is DOOR. (a lot of door(s) are mentioned in the bible. It is worth observing WHO goes IN, and WHO is left OUT.
This would infact- isolate/create 2 groups of people minimum.
BTW... there are a lot of resurrection(s). Ive mentioned a list before. Someone also mentioned Lazarus, which Jesus called him forth BY NAME, while/before he was resurrected from the dead.
There truely is a lot to this.
Praise God that His written text REQUIRES HIS HOLY SPIRIT TO ENLIGHTEN US. =)
And still the mysteries of God, are EMPERICAL EVIDENCE OF HIS MAJESTY.
Be blessed- and read His Word, everyone. =]
Hi terryt,
I like your profile quote:
Quote: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
Glad to see your interest here in THE BLESSED HOPE! =]
There are sooooo many different metaphors in scripture that allude to the coming of the Lord, it is amazing.
the truth is, a lot of the information originates in the old testament is really about events THAT ARE YET TO HAPPEN.
If you think about that, it is incredible.
Yes, Jesus IS the fulfillment of over 300 prophecies approx.
As far as his Equality/being God/ as THE triune deity.
As far as being the redeemer of man kind, through the cross in perfection, as well as resurrecting 3 days later.
As far as ending the sting to death for believers and sealing the fate of all unrighteous/ Christ rejecting souls, including the 1/3 fallen angels and Lucifer himself.
As far as declaring to be the creator, in which it( his creation-heaven and earth) will pass away.. BUT NOT ONE SINGLE JOT OR TITLE (dot of the i, or crossing of the t) ENDURES FOREVER.
As far as the 10 commandments in stone written by the finger of God, and now the NEW TESTAMENT written upon the stoney heart of mankind- BECOMING OUR JUDGE/MENT. God giving us a conscious (his laws written upon our hearts so that we are without excuse).
As far as ***now the topic at hand- "THE RETURN OF THE KING"
OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS....
-We've only just begun. =]
The truth of the matter is, the entire bible is interwoven, that to add/take away anything out of it, is to our demise.
Because we are finite, and God infinite- He knows exactly what each piece of the puzzle CONTAINS.
so, now that we are finally just at the beginning.... lol =]
Seriously though, there are alot of other word searches that we have yet to even delve into that is tangible to our conversation at hand.
It is good we are isolating events around "resurrection".
There is still verses that deal with:
1) His "appearing" (which can be- only momentarily)
2) His touching down on the MT Olives and the events around.
3) *A key word is DOOR. (a lot of door(s) are mentioned in the bible. It is worth observing WHO goes IN, and WHO is left OUT.
This would infact- isolate/create 2 groups of people minimum.
BTW... there are a lot of resurrection(s). Ive mentioned a list before. Someone also mentioned Lazarus, which Jesus called him forth BY NAME, while/before he was resurrected from the dead.
There truely is a lot to this.
Praise God that His written text REQUIRES HIS HOLY SPIRIT TO ENLIGHTEN US. =)
And still the mysteries of God, are EMPERICAL EVIDENCE OF HIS MAJESTY.
Be blessed- and read His Word, everyone. =]
John the baptist,
asked the disciples for them to make sure if Jesus was who he said he was, when the Lord responded as he did, it was enough for John to go the grave with.
He was confident in his knowledge of the scriptures and believed in what he had experienced personally and radically in his own life. Enough for him to be imprisoned, where later he lost his life.
Though he did have a moment of wavering it seemed, it only took a little encouragement for him to be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.
Even though we think that Jesus should make a personal encounter, his word(s) are enough power to strengthen our hearts and our spirit, clear our minds and give us the assuredness to trust in Him.
Sometimes the Lord will personally step into our lives and *radically change us too.
Just an everyday Joe like others, who appreciates encouragement, and is learning more and more to rely on God's promises. GODBLESS.
John the baptist,
asked the disciples for them to make sure if Jesus was who he said he was, when the Lord responded as he did, it was enough for John to go the grave with.
He was confident in his knowledge of the scriptures and believed in what he had experienced personally and radically in his own life. Enough for him to be imprisoned, where later he lost his life.
Though he did have a moment of wavering it seemed, it only took a little encouragement for him to be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.
Even though we think that Jesus should make a personal encounter, his word(s) are enough power to strengthen our hearts and our spirit, clear our minds and give us the assuredness to trust in Him.
Sometimes the Lord will personally step into our lives and *radically change us too.
Just an everyday Joe like others, who appreciates encouragement, and is learning more and more to rely on God's promises. GODBLESS.
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Diana grew up in a strict Islamic family in Pakistan. Her life was pretty typical until she met a girl named Mary who was a Christian. Now Diana is also a Christian and on the run.
When Diana's family learned that she had become a Christian, they repeatedly beat her and insisted she return to Islam. But Diana refused. She was then forced to a local canal where her uncle put a pistol to her head and gave her one last chance to return to Islam. Diana replied, "You can kill me if you want. I will not leave Christ."
It was then that Diana's uncle noticed an extremely poisonous black cobra swimming in the canal. Believing he could escape any prosecution for his niece's death, he threw her into the path of the cobra. He also knew she could not swim.
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Pakistani teenager barely escapes death at the hands of her family
Diana's picture must
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Diana grew up in a strict Islamic family in Pakistan. Her life was pretty typical until she met a girl named Mary who was a Christian. Now Diana is also a Christian and on the run.
When Diana's family learned that she had become a Christian, they repeatedly beat her and insisted she return to Islam. But Diana refused. She was then forced to a local canal where her uncle put a pistol to her head and gave her one last chance to return to Islam. Diana replied, "You can kill me if you want. I will not leave Christ."
It was then that Diana's uncle noticed an extremely poisonous black cobra swimming in the canal. Believing he could escape any prosecution for his niece's death, he threw her into the path of the cobra. He also knew she could not swim.
Diana miraculously escaped from the canal and is in hiding today. She is a new Christian but has already learned what it means to suffer for Christ. She recently told The Voice of the Martyrs, "Jesus was crucified for us. Can we not endure some of the same for Him?"
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I agree in that I love to talk about this issue.
I already said I am not 100% on Pretrib. Though I believe the bible hints toward it stronger than not.
Any/all verses in direct opposition of it-stops ME from thinking too much ON MY OWN. ya know.
There are conflicting....so it seems, verses in the bible.
and in order for the entire bible to be right, something extraordinary usually is taking place.
*A key factor.
(the bible has no contradictions) JOHN1:1 Jesus IS the Word
1JOHN5:7 (WORD) TRINITY,ALSO.
There is soo many different ways to approach
the topic of the Lords coming, it is incredible.
After all, it is called THE BLESSED HOPE.
I believe that this gets are spirit/minds focused on the PURPOSE the word of God serves.
Its revelation is the revealing of ETERNITY.
The thought of living forever is always present.
Understanding there is a choice to be made now- is the revelation that the word opens up to our very being.
Godbless......oh wait, he already has-through His Word! =]
IJOHN1:9
Go Jesus, Go Jesus
=]
We can have good clean fun to. =]
Being blessed is the best...way to be.
Amen, RC.
The whole book of Jude.
Jud 1:1 ¶ Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, [and] called:
Jud 1:2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.
Jud 1:3 ¶ Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jud 1:5 ¶ I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jud 1:8 Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Jud 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jud 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jud 1:12 ¶ These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jud 1:16 ¶ These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jud 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jud 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Jud 1:20 ¶ But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jud 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Jud 1:24 ¶ Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present [you] faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
Jud 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Rev 1:1 ¶ The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Rev 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.
Hi mig and crew,
Man, had a long day at work.
Also starting reading everyone posts =)
(which is great to see, btw)
Opened up the good old pages of scripture, and started reading, and reading. Well, needless to say I had to crash out since.
What, like 3 hours ago? woah.
Ok, so Im a bit awake now.
I wanted to say that I appreciate everone COMING TOGETHER ON THIS.
IT IS MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE WHEN WE ALL PULL OUR EFFORTS TOGETHER, FOR GOD'S GLORY-AND OUR UNDERSTANDING.
Prophetic/future tense subjects are one the most trying to understand....and we already know one of the most rewarding as well!. =)
Seriously though. In order to fully/as much as we can, understand things to come....it literally requires us to dillegently probe into the entire bible for His answers.
God is pleased that we are using His Word-to better understand His will for us, through His word.
REVELATION 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
This is the one time in scriptures text itself that declares a blessing to its reader.
As you can see,
There is sooooo much richness in this one final (page) book called Jude.
It is the last book inspired, up until the final REVELATION of Jesus Christ given to John to tell of things to come.
The whole book of Jude.
Jud 1:1 ¶ Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, [and] called:
Jud 1:2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.
Jud 1:3 ¶ Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jud 1:5 ¶ I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jud 1:8 Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Jud 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jud 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jud 1:12 ¶ These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jud 1:16 ¶ These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jud 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jud 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Jud 1:20 ¶ But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jud 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Jud 1:24 ¶ Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present [you] faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
Jud 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Hi excel,
That was very well stated.
Godbless.
The scriptures say
We are bastards if we are not chastised.
Also that we are to be pruined, and sharpened by others for his glory. (to bring for much fruit).
Sin - is the issue with a(non) pure bride.
I know what he was saying and all, however sin is the contamination factor.
Adam/Eve were not seperated from God from working hard and maybe pricking a finger or hurting an elbow...it was because of sin that their garments were no longer white as snow. That 4giveness through Jesus can wipe away our blemishes.
like the man who did not have on his *wedding garments, and was kicked out into wailing and nashing of teeth. (heaven/hell) contrast.
*robe of righteousness (sin 4given/obedience)
Actually,
I believe there is.
I have experienced it first hand.
Now the window may only be 30 minutes or so after the bell, but I was in _____ (I will leave the name blank, to not kill the stock for others) at its high a few months back, at .0009
and right after close, there were 60million shares seperately traded.
NOW.......they may have been fills, that were allowed to go through late, I dont know. However this consistantly happened for about a week or so with this security.
Needless to say I was not happy.
Normally when you buy and hit the ask on the high at end of day...youll at least have a nice pop in the morning. However, when I seen double the shares traded after the bell....I tripped. Oh, and it brought it down to 1/2 th pps. Not cool at all. Just my own observation.
Hopefully what happened was not legal/normal-as in IT WONT HAPPEN AGAIN. (maybe security caught wind to it?)
Here we go,
Thought Id paste this over here.
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Hi RC,
Yep. They fled to the mountains.
The whole issue however is that there is: 2 groups of dicussion here.
Those that go before anything, and those that(in this case) flee to the mountains. (thats no ESCAPE of ALL things though).
You would agree that the Lords coming is not = to the "fleeing" of people. (so this could not be inregards to a rapture/or non rapture 2nd coming MEET YOU IN THE AIR COMBO)
Here are a few verses for OBSERVATION.
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Rev 4:1 ¶ After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1)Come up hither/in the spirit/in heaven.
2)once this occurs....."I will shew the things which must be HEREAFTER." <<<<<<<<
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Alright now look at:
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1) "they" proclaim REDEEMED by thy blood.
(this is not any angels. So this only leaves Humans).
From everywhere. - redeemed us to God.
2)the book (all thats in it-all 7years worth) is going to be opened. (BUT HASNT YET). (but the "redeemed are there already, out of every kindred,and tongue, and people, and nation.
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Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1)Elders already there.
2)these (others) 2ndary- came out of great tribulation (later on).
Everyone should read CHAPTER 8.
REALIZE MOST OF THE MAJOR "GREAT TRIBULATION EVENTS" *start happening.
And yet- many , many believers are already dying left and right for their faith, by chapter 7.
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Here is what the "rapture concept" is identical to.
Which does happen in Chapter 11 (2 witnesses)
11:11 ¶ And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Also God verifies things in the mouth of 2 or more witnesses.
so the rapture.....is a taking up of both o/t and n/testament saints.
SHOWING EQUALITY IN RELATIONSHIP AS *ONE BODY OF CHRIST-THE FAITHFUL.
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here is a contrast of "groups" side by side verses.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1)"child" caught up unto God (who the child represents is a good topic to discuss)
2)woman-again (who she represents it worth discussing)
she FLEES to the mountains.
2 examples of opposite actions.
one FLEES
one is caught up unto God AND HIS THRONE-HEAVEN.
Anyways my friends.....
I love examining line by line, precept by precept.
I could go on for hours. I will stop here though.
**The bible usually FILLS ITS PAGES with a flowing idea that is found throughout most all stories/ parables/ actions that take place.
This is why we know the bible to be complete.
Its fluency though written over 1,400 years span time, by over 40 different writers, on different continents- yet it flows like nothing else.
It transcends through "temporal society views" and to this second speaks/answers the questions for today/tomorrow/ETERNITY.
BE BLESSED AND READ HIS WORD! =]
Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the word of God.
Hi thrifty,
Great DD/posts.
Keep blessing others and getting SCRIPTURE up here on the boards. *A lot of people are being given an *opportunity to read these. =] Godbless.
Hi excel, RC, and everyone else!
Kinda touched on this a bit over on
CHRISTIAN STOCK INVESTORS BOARD.
P.S..We are all brothers, so having communication flow across boards IMO is what Jesus would want. =) =] =P oh ya.
Godbless you guys.
Be lights in this dark, dark world.
Hi RC,
Yep. They fled to the mountains.
The whole issue however is that there is: 2 groups of dicussion here.
Those that go before anything, and those that(in this case) flee to the mountains. (thats no ESCAPE of ALL things though).
You would agree that the Lords coming is not = to the "fleeing" of people. (so this could not be inregards to a rapture/or non rapture 2nd coming MEET YOU IN THE AIR COMBO)
Here are a few verses for OBSERVATION.
------------------------------------------below--------
Rev 4:1 ¶ After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1)Come up hither/in the spirit/in heaven.
2)once this occurs....."I will shew the things which must be HEREAFTER." <<<<<<<<
===========================
Alright now look at:
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1) "they" proclaim REDEEMED by thy blood.
(this is not any angels. So this only leaves Humans).
From everywhere. - redeemed us to God.
2)the book (all thats in it-all 7years worth) is going to be opened. (BUT HASNT YET). (but the "redeemed are there already, out of every kindred,and tongue, and people, and nation.
===============================
Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1)Elders already there.
2)these (others) 2ndary- came out of great tribulation (later on).
Everyone should read CHAPTER 8.
REALIZE MOST OF THE MAJOR "GREAT TRIBULATION EVENTS" *start happening.
And yet- many , many believers are already dying left and right for their faith, by chapter 7.
=========================
Here is what the "rapture concept" is identical to.
Which does happen in Chapter 11 (2 witnesses)
11:11 ¶ And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Also God verifies things in the mouth of 2 or more witnesses.
so the rapture.....is a taking up of both o/t and n/testament saints.
SHOWING EQUALITY IN RELATIONSHIP AS *ONE BODY OF CHRIST-THE FAITHFUL.
================
here is a contrast of "groups" side by side verses.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.
Alright 2 things taking place.
1)"child" caught up unto God (who the child represents is a good topic to discuss)
2)woman-again (who she represents it worth discussing)
she FLEES to the mountains.
2 examples of opposite actions.
one FLEES
one is caught up unto God AND HIS THRONE-HEAVEN.
Anyways my friends.....
I love examining line by line, precept by precept.
I could go on for hours. I will stop here though.
**The bible usually FILLS ITS PAGES with a flowing idea that is found throughout most all stories/ parables/ actions that take place.
This is why we know the bible to be complete.
Its fluency though written over 1,400 years span time, by over 40 different writers, on different continents- yet it flows like nothing else.
It transcends through "temporal society views" and to this second speaks/answers the questions for today/tomorrow/ETERNITY.
BE BLESSED AND READ HIS WORD! =]
Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the word of God.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
The only way to ESCAPE *ALL these things is a pretrib occurance. An entire removal of ones self.
Examine the verse.
1) watch/pray
2)be worthy-to escape
3)ALL these things(things to be-future tense)
4)They are going to happen, come to pass
*yet-Jesus declares there is a way to ESCAPE (his words) ALL.
5)And to stand before the Son of man.
*which indicates the location Jesus/we will be at. Together.
Worthy-to stand before the Lord.
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There are verses that appear to support 3 different views, however understanding which one is correct takes dillegence.
Preterests are a branch off of calvinists sorta. They adhear to the book of Revelation as a done deal. Worthless putting it another way. In the past, all of it.
This following, adhears to a post trib 2nd coming at best.
Mid trib, I can see some verses would point to it, but again the IMMINANCY OF THE COMING OF CHRIST- is a stake here.
If people only have to wait until the antichrist declares himself god , and kills the 2 witnesses after 1260 days (3 1/2 years)...than we all know there is only that much time to that day<<< left.
And.....scripture says we do not know, not even the Son of man, that is given to the Father to know.
so.....we have to look at everything in entirety and see if a pretrib rapture does not contradict scripture.
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Here is my twist on things.
I believe in a pretrib rapture, yes. However.....
I believe that the devil is soo deceptive that plans are in motion as we talk to STAGE EITHER:
1)A FAKE RAPTURE.....youll have to research that one.
2)A FAKE/TRIBULATION(pre)(SELF CREATED) not Jacobs Trouble, by man.
Which would throw off everyone that did believe in a pretrib and it still could be REAL, yet...because a false system was in full swing-people would believe it is fullfillment of prophecy. Most would not even think about it being manufactured before THE TIME.
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Those are logical ideas, and would snare most people.
most already thought this was so with Hitler, his reighn in war last just under the 7 years, at 6 1/2 approx.
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Logically think about it.
IF.........the antichrist could STAGE another "antichrist" which people are looking for...
he could have that guy-taken out and then...........................................
WALLAAAAAAAAA- appear as the MESSIAH.
*Things to chew on.
Godbless and seek Him, while he is beckoning. =)
lol!
that was a good one, and funny in the movie also.
t/c.
Those verses are together, and deal with the time of tribulation.
This is why America too, will be against Israel in the future.
The bible says that ALL NATIONS WILL ENCOMPASS HER.
TO DESTROY HER.
THEN GOD WILL STEP ON THE SCENE AND FULFILL SCRIPTURE.
Im really going now.=]
Have fun.
Think of some other things as well to discuss.
I think we walked through a lot of the word very precisely on this one. Praise God. =)
Brings a whole new meaning to
"we got a lot of catching up do"
The thing is, the rapture...
for me, is a good reminder of why not to sin.
I know in the past, that if I was going to choose to sin for any reason, I would actually think about it for a sec.
Do I really want this sin, and risk the possibility that the rapture will occur anytime now, and have to automatically go through the tribulation? For this sin. Hmmmmmm.
Then if I say yes, its even more revealing how wrong I am.
Makes for a good mirror check, at the least.
God also says he will openly reward us, the things done is secret.
so....that would certainly reward those GONE, and reveal those left behind.
BTW...that is one of the best movies ive seen. The 1st one.
after all our talks on here, I hope people watch or REWATCH it, in light of all these good discussions.
Things may stand out more.
GOdbless, off to work now.
The truth will-SET YOU FREE. =]
A lot of people feel that Jesus
would not make a trip down here then have us return with him.
So its easier to say that he is just coming one more time.
HOWEVER...
There are at least 7 or 8 times that human life has "caught some air".
1)enoch
2)elijah
3)*A LOT OF DEAD PEOPLE CAME OUT OF THEIR GRAVES WHEN JESUS DIED
MOST OVER LOOK THIS. (NOT THE RAPTURE THOUGH)
4)phillip in the n/t was here...then found somewhere else.
the guy teleported lol !! ya know??! =)
5)Jesus ALREADY ONCE.
He told Mary to not touch him YET, because he had not ascended to the Father, then Jesus RETURNED, and appeared before the disciples,and let them touch him-doubting Thomas, etc.
6)paul-caught up to the 3rd heaven
7)John-come up hither REV 4:1
8)2 witnesses
9) Jesus ascension to heaven before 500+ witnesses
10)Thess verses with everyone going up
Thats 10 examples of the possibility of it occuring again.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Just look at it word for word.
There are 2 groups mentioned.
1) THRONES-they that sat on them. (like in REV chapter 4, or 5)
2)and- those who didnt take the mark in the tribulation.
Hi RC,
Also the references to the dead being beheaded is partially right.
those are the ones in the tribulation.
Dont have my bible next to me, so im going from memory here...
In REV, it depicts that there are 24 seats before the thrown of GOD and that they LAY THIER CROWNS BEFORE HIM.
REDEEMED BELIEVERS- CAN ONLY DO THIS.
IF......THE 24, are the 12 patriachs, and the 12 apostles
who would be their BECAUSE of the rapture...that makes since.
Also there are 2 groups of believers depicted.
I think in rev 7 or so, it talks about how SATAN IS CURSING THOSE THAT ***DWELL IN HEAVEN. While he is on earth (tribulation period).
so........
we do have the beheaded ones in the trib in rev 21 or so,
and way before in rev 5, 7 we have talk about the "church" but NOT ON EARTH.
WHICH IS VERIFIED BY REV 3:10...which tries those that are on earth.
that sentence would not even make sense if....there were not 2 groups.
all are either on earth or are not.. unless THERE IS A DIVISION FOR THE FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS- OIL/LAMPS -FULL
OTHER 5 LEFT.
MAKES SENCE.
Hi happy,
roooooooooof!
Great my friend, you are right on in most every reference you posted.
Actually Elisha i believe died.
ELIJAH- WAS "TAKEN UP" TO HEAVEN IN A CHARIOT.
ALSO
THE FLOOD/ARK- IS AN EXAMPLE OF THOSE BEING IN THE WORLD AND TRIED, LIKE THE TRIB WILL BE,
and ENOCH-
is the example of the church.
ENOCH WAS "TRANSLATED" THAT HE SHOULD NOT SEE DEATH.
LITERALLY TAKEN.
SO...ELIJAH AND ENOCH ARE THE 2 THAT HAVENT DIED YET.
HOWEVER...I THINK IT IS ELIJAH (MALACHI 4)
AND ?????? MAYBE MOSES.
All the powers the 2 witnesses are given are simular to moses.
Hi risk,
Ya, im only in one stock majorly right now.
Its a lowfloater/trade that takes patience.
But its a major bottom play with a strong upside.
So, Im in.http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?LKRV,GTEM (LKRV)
Good morning all!
yawning! lol =)
alright, playing catch up on all the posts this morning.
GREAT TO SEE =P
Not vertical
just how you had them with 07 winnners
and if your long or not like on XKEM.
nothing major, I just thought it was cool
and.......the fact I could read it.
the print, was a little small in the email
thats all buddy boy.