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I will admit 35 is a restance point. but why would a company with a going concern statement in their financials and loses 45m every 3 months expect its stock to go up and not down. lets not forget the billion shares in the float so that china will be majority owner. although there is manipulation going on here like it or not, wether I post or not.
I dont have a clue what your talking about, but I think you are stalking me, that I do know.
I agree, its a pattern for the pros, and its not very good at this point. I did not watch it that close intraday, I dont really know how to do that very well, mostly because I dont have the time is the reason I aint good at it I guess.
I can only tell you this, many people watch a stock minute by minute and dont have a clue what it is doing but make guesses and sometimes they are right. I have seen people time the market yet dont know how to pick a stock. I think sometimes its ego or just assumptions they know more than they really do. my advice, stop watching it every second.
actually it could have gone either way today. the way it turned out though is tomorrow may go to 28 or so. what do you expect when it goes up 20% in one day.
this thing is at a penny, with some movement, you start talking $5?
nah, especially when Cramer says sell. I think it could go to 52 week high by middle of december without breaking a sweat.
"Contracts and rising share price are all I want to see now."
thats all anyone could ask for at this point. should not be hard since its almost rock bottom now and its been said there are many things in the works.
huh, you need to get up to speed. it also sounds like you could care less about america and are more interested in seeing chinese company take over a123 for the sake of your investment even though its not even close to the best thing for them. the big deal is the patents, especially since the labor came from US universities and they were bought and paid for by washington. seems some forget why they are even still in business and able to build a plant in the US in the first place, taxpayer money. seems some think just like big business unless its your job at stake.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/jobs_coming_home_tNA6vg02psjwKEMcUFvrfN
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/46198559
there was a better article I read recently but the following gives you an idea of what really is going on. also, the heavier the product the less cheap it is to produce there.
"By 2015, it will only be about 10 percent cheaper to manufacture in China"
http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/01/14/10156162-made-in-america-trend-against-outsourcing-brings-jobs-back-from-china?lite
it was the free coffee, them green cups were big.
maybe, there is a good chance it will lost 15% within a month.
I dont think you get it, they have to do something with the money that we send them for products that we buy from them. trust me, they know what they are doing, and they have to do it in order to keep their products looking cheaper vs domestic production right here. the government needs to sell them Tbills in order to keep operating, they need to buy them in order to not strengthen their currency. when I say operating I mean wasting billions on programs and departments that appear to be useless or have absorbitant salaries they give to each other. lest we not forget welfare entitlement. never met a thin mother on welfare that didnt have many healthy childer who ran around the streets and played sports all day long.
the best thing that could happen to A123 is get rid of the chinese sugar daddy and get more loans or grants from Obama or do a JV with an american company. they will turn it around. I have said before, they have just about the best technology on the market. it just has to get less expensive with time and economy of scale.
again a reminder of what happened to Valence tech, could happen here. until the the fog is raised, its the wild west.
i missed your post, but did a once over and found it.
looks like you realize that A123 management, and financing from china, both understand what just happened to valence. Berg stole from current shareholders and hopes he gets away with it, and chinese investors may see its a way to do the same here. throw money into the company, buy shares and be a debt holder as well as help find markets for products. when management gives the chinese the nod, its all over, they file for BK, and the chinese are the first in line to get the patents and assets for pennies on the dollar. they are abusing shareholders and SEC does nothing, rinse and repeat in the next company, SEC goes back to sleep until next time they get palms greased maybe?
I dont think you know what your talking about, but leaving the US is your choice and something I think of doing it also. too many free loaders who complain about everything and what I believe to be evil men like Al Sharpton defend them and make excuses for bad behavior and reverse racism.
as far as chinese, give them decent wages and living conditions that are suitable for human standards and china would crumble. they couldnt handle anything but slave labor at their fingertips. they dont know anything but stealing what we had and making it with slaves.
this country did sell us down the river but it was mostly greedy CEOs who did what they wanted and washington let them with nafta and gatt. what I mean is they compromised our people by sending companies and technology to china in return for 49% ownership and the government did nothing but support it.
like I said, strange stuff going on. dont know what to make of it much less do about it. is it run and gun time? dont know.
looks like its back with a 251,200 buy. strange stuff going on here.
why yes, who else would you think, it all goes through them anyhow other than hi speed trades.
Ronbo, go visit a site run by Don Wollanchuk, wollie. see what he had to say for years about vlnc, pumped and stated he had over 300k shared long, then he just brushed it off when it went belly up. dont say much for people promoting stocks and could care less if you lose even after touting for years.
you will most likely have the same people here, doing the same thing, if it goes the same way.
i thought there was 13,413,700 short right now, but that will vary considering its just days after OPEX. I also dont know where you get .75 from.
I can appreciate humor, although losing money in the market is always in the back of my mind. I am still a shareholder here, I am not one of the ones who will buy low, because I just dont know why its so low. I dont think its a bargain unless the pattern is consistently up with real substantial news.
"has probably been asked over & over by shareholders"
agreed, its almost been beaten to death.
I wonder the same thing, all else would be icing if that is true.
"I'd still want to see them succeed, because I know people who have shares and I'd love to see them make some money on this investment"
OK, if you say so.
"That would have really gotten your suspicions up, huh?"
I ask a legit question and you think its suspicion? you dont post for over a year, and you dont think thats more suspicious than my question? I have never, in ten years of watching boards, known someone to do that.
OK, I give up, seems you are very defensive for some reason or another and I guess thats up to you eh.
its pretty obvious it seems, way down here there is now a lot of doubt. and I dont think company officials want the SEC to think its down here just for company officials to load up. its either because there is news on the way and people cant wait, or there is no progress or news on the way and people dont want to wait. as time went on and the company produces less than expectation, it went down. the way they financed was not toxic, but it appears to have at least been a catalyst for the downward spiral. I dont understand why you keep asking this, its also a strange thing you show up a year later, with no interest for a long time, and now are fixated on company matters? why?
whatever. Im still waiting for something good to happen. there will be plenty of time to get in I believe, there is a long list of resistance points back up.
Dont say i didnt warn you. experience speaks you should listen.
identical analysis as those who owned stock in valence. cept they lost real money cause they cant really sell for anything since it went BK.
IMO, they have a crook named Berg, and here its the Chinese.
Here they have patents, there they had more than almost anyone, over 400.
I feel shareholders have their best chance in court. I believe we have been stolen from, mostly at the hands of Berg and Kanode. None of the filings in the BK process will mean much for shareholders, it just a reminder how crooked a company and its officers can be IMO.
i think its more the chinese investors. I dont trust them, they are scammers. I just dont trust people who think human life is expendable for the good of its leaders. they seem to mostly all be corrupt or care less about americans or at least their investments.
IMO, so is shorting shares. I think they should have curtailed any shorting for the last 4 years, or anytime this country is in a recession.
not sure this makes for smart investing.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AONE+Interactive#symbol=aone;range=3m;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;
yes its a chart, and it shows the past, and the past dont look so good.
future is good for the company, as I always felt, but shareholders, thats another story.
sells outnumber buys consistently, accept for one day, since the 13th. so I guess I cant see share accumulation from that data. see you at mid 20s.
which one of these guys did he get your info from?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=AONE+Insider+Transactions
they are talking loud and clear, and it through the insiders current volume of selling and no clarity on mega dillution from the chinese.
still interested here, but with current events, I dont think anyone can value the PPS until its all cleared up. I dont think the dollar days are back in earnest without RS. but they wont do that until after the chinese convert to commons. my guess is a billion in the float some time next year.
wow, a year and 3 months since your last post. is it too much to ask if you have just completed selling all your shares, any part of the latest volume, or is there another reason for the return?
You need to read up on Berg, no one trusts him and this stock has everything to do with him. He made a statement about 3 years ago that he is a man of his word, and valence always has him as a backup. well he pulled his backing and let the company go BK, he didnt bother to tell anyone and neither did the company. Whats just as bad is the company had the means to finance through the debt yet didnt bother to do that either. Also ask Don wolanchuk, he pumped this for almost 15 years, see what he has to say.
good, glad others are starting to see those facts also. It also looks like they are bouncing off of 1 again today.
putting him on ignore makes it easy for me to not read posts I feel have no info I need. Is he still talkin bout amendment?
I was watching to see if it went under 1, but it looks like specialists backed off at the end of day after the 2M shares one of them took. for who and from who, we dont know.
maybe this will be valence shareholders someday, check is in the mail?
http://news.yahoo.com/madoff-victims-check-mail-155710909--abc-news-topstories.html
actually there were 4.5 million on the sell side today, sure someone, most likely MM, absorbed it. why the sell off, I dont think anyone here knows. maybe it was warp eh., finally had enough.
just curious to see what happens if it goes to 1 or below.
its down 20%, thats not too impressive on the positive side I would think.