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I understand, sometimes to much knowledge is dangerous,
"paralysis thru analysis"
I have been trading SFOR several years also,it's been good, bad and ugly.
I always felt that the sales thru 3rd party was always dangerous
but now think they dealing with better companies and the patent should help the bottom line.
I worry about O/S and getting to a cash flow that's positive is the issue that will make the share price go higher.
The MM brokers have contro; every day since .019 the last 1 1/2 years since they always have shares to sell from dilution.
They make a spread and control the up and downs.
Until this stops or a major announcement from SFOR (SOLID NEWS $$$) we will stay below a penny.
The volume distribution is bad with large gaps in price leaving stale price holdings, one must be able to average and trade the swings in order to lower there price risk.
THE BEST TO YOU "TheDman"
i just checked my level2 and the news old and new still comes up, reboot you pc or tablet?
ALL THE OTHER SERVICES STILL CARRIES SFOR NEWS
OT
Once again thu for your comments, you are a bright light and real comments both sides.
I don't speak with SFOR any longer as they had many good logs in the fire over the years and they all burnt out.
Now I agree the patents has good potential and there are many ways to ENJOIN THE INFRINGERS.
$$$$$ OT
Where is the revenue from the "CFA DEFENDER"
Also there were over 6 million downloaded copies of GID, Where is the revenue?
Did all the resellers have the money?
WORDS
it's time for SFOR to limit their words and produce $$$$$
"down the road doesn't work" it's okay if you increase revenue during these waiting periods
MGT DON'T TAKE ANY SALARY UNTIL YOU POST REVENUE AND COVER YOUR MONTHLY BURN RATE YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE LAM FOR MANY YEARS
ROLO731
I'm in it to win it.
hiphop
Can you give the post number where this was mentioned.
TIA
OT
they must sell product
APPRECIATE
Lots of time has passed and I hear and see the same SOP without any results, hoping now brings SFOR BETTER FORTUNE.
Thu for your quick reply
HOW MANY STARS FOR TODAYS INFO
* no info on guidence for Q3
* down the road again 30-90 days for next contracts?
* min. rev. on closed deals ? dah
* patent issues are still a question mark as we are dealing with large companies who can push the end result down the road for many years?
* third party companies selling our product, that hasn't worked well in the past
* how much money has the group of 7 taken in salaries and options
over the last several years?
* last the pps price is almost lower than whale s---
* PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME $$$$ IDEAS WHY THIS PPS WILL GO HIGHER
BUZZ
What are you trying to tell us?
Promosoft is a large comapny in Lisbon,Portugal and is involved with Steetweb designer of systems, they found a virus called WINRAR that is tough to detect?
Is SFOR involved somehow?????
THU
I see 2 upside down head and shoulders starting
*1st- small h&s up to .0025 moving over 50 day ma
2nd- large h&s up to .008 moving over 200 day ma
could develope nicely
WHITESKY IS ONE OF THEIR PARTBERS, THAT WHAT IS SAYS ON THE SFOR WEB-SITE????
LOOKING FOR NEW INVESTORS????
SFOR- HOW ABOUT CLOSING SOME CONTRACTS WITH GUESSTIMATE OF REVENUE?
GOV'T CONTRACTS???? WHICH COUNTRY????
WHITESKY
why is WHITESKY still mentioned as one of SFOR partners on their web site???
NEW CONTRACTS?
During the past few weeks, several posters on this board stated contracts are ready to be announced?
What happened?
I mentioned in past posts that a unfriendly take-over is a possibility, there is a large accumulation of shs. IMHO
I respect your posts,just needed to be sure you were missing a zero,pennies would need many issues to be resolved
*large transparent contracts
*payment of debt
*cash flow thats transparent
*stop printing of shares for cash
*real guidence from SFOR, NOT DOWN THE ROAD AS WE HAVE HAD FOR SEVERAL YEARS
Are you talking price of cents?
Thu
that has to be reported and it's public info, stop you silly posts
WHAT DO U THINK WOULD BE B/O PRICE, EXCHANGE OF SHARES?
Unfriendly take-over
INFRINGMENT
If WILLFUL INFRINGMENT can be proved treble damages can be paid
SUNSHINE73
IMHO- The bigger issue was WS passed trade secrets to a third party in our to duplicate the software
ROLO
Yes, read my various posts today, something cooking?
Risk depends on the person or company and their cash flows.
OT
THU FOR YOUR COMMENTS-
When you mention large shareholders,are u thinking that they hold 30,40 50 mio shares? If so they must apply the 13d 5% rule that requires fileing(sec) of holdings or are u thinking that amounts are much smaller?
OT
These are not flippers who buy and hold 100,200,300mio. shares as the risk is massive to spend that kind of money.
The "value at risk" is large to carry this type of position as SFOR is a highly risk stock (sub penny)
The accumlation has to have a legit interest in SFOR.
BUYOUT OR R/S
IMHO
* This sems to me, that a large buyer is keeping shares lower to buy, resulting in a unfriendly take-over and will have controlling rights of the company.
* Or SFOR is selling every day as shares are available ( JUST LIKE THE TECH ERA) in order to pay the bills, the end result is to R/S again
OT
thu for doing the follow-up
OT
The tech world is changing so fast,cell phone inquiry instantly would be a great benefit,
TIMING IS EVERYTHING FOR SFOR, LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST.
OT
AE has been providing that service for the last 25 years. If they record a large amount or charging from a different location , they call and check with the holder.
NOT OOB
BUYOUT???
why do that, a company could transact a unfriendly take over and it a bargin.
If you believe a buyout please explain how i.e PAY DOWN DEBT,BUY THE IP, WHHAT PRICE FOR COMMON SHARES
TIA
I agree that SFOR must be transparent in their releases. They must change their SOP as done in the past several years They could put a min/max $$$$ amount.
The amount of times SFOR put est on anything they failed, the thing that I noticed recently the cleaning up IHUB info.Maybe they trying to be professional.
Joe
Same issue must close down and start again, started about 45 min. ago.
FFF
Believe me I want SFOR to achieve their dreams, but there are facts from a share holder point of view lead to many questions.
I like that you are Optimistic, I was that way for a long time but go back and review my posts as I started to see things differently in the last few months.
Thu always for your comments.
closing of deals
How can a large multi or large corporation feel comfortable in dealing with a sub penny stock, that shows profits of 27k per Q2?
also selling of shares to cover their cash flow?
SFOR needs a differnt approach to selling not thru share holders,they need a complete make-over.
KAY said for a long time he doesn't about share price now it bites him in the ass.
JOE
I was surprised that patent rev was included,as KAY in the past always stated patent rev was seperate? Oh well
It was good we heard WALLER and RAM update their parts of the company
NUTS
yes I'm nuts for entering SFOR,
That was an example I posted .0006
I must go now as doctors with white jackets are coming with a straight jacket for me.
HAVE A NICE DAY
IMHO- it doesn't make sense (CENTS) to sell at .0006, share holders can wait to zero, as most traders have enough profits during the last 1 1/2 years to make offsets to decrease their tax bill.
if the sell the remaining approx shares 2.2 billion at .006 then they will enough cash to keep them alive assuming no rev or patent income for some time, but the issue during this time is a reverse.