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I do agree though that buyers in .035-.07 range are not wiped out. It has become a different animal comparitive to what the thougt process was then. But at this point, with this tech, ANYone who buys in here should make an absurd amount....just a matter of time.
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Do not even accuse me of trying to bash the price down. Thats completely insane. Ive been buying the whole way down, so "wanting in lower" is not a motivation for me. Ive been a reakidtic SUPPORTER of this company the whole way. Are you that one dimensional?
And i never said anything about FDA violations. That has nothing to do with what we were discussing before.
Were going to have to agree to disagree lol. Ultimately itll prove to be semantics in the long run if nothing bad happens.
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Indeed. I look forward to having access to this tech, and all the derivative things they haveyet to discover.
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Its only circular because one side is blinded by bias on some company topics IMO.
The fact that their IS VALUE in the FDA clarifying its position on SVF, and the fact they have not yet done so, and the fact their are claims stating they are working toward that end, indicate "approval" or "clarification" is an important step that is not yet finished.
The FDA could come back and say that SVF doesnt need to be as highly scrutinized as drug testing, yet SVFC isnt fully "exempt" and some new middle ground may emerge...the point is WE DONT KNOW because the FDA hasnt clarified its final position yet as its still working toward that end.
The fact the company is allowed to continue operating and is working side by side has NOTHING to do with the FDA clarifying its position on SVF. What that is is an indicator that SVFC is looking VERY GOOD as far as anything FDA related is concerned. A favorable outcome is more likely, but we havent gotten it yet.
I feel like I just repeated myself over and over to try and ram this home. Prolly wont work lol. Oh well.
Buyout talks? You dont know that for sure.
I completely disagree. They are currently operating in a gray area. When the FDA comes out and says the process is approved by the FDA and does not require the scrutiny of being a drug it will cause an explosion.
The current status quo is that the company believes it is exempt and is working diligently to prove it to the FDA. In the meantime the FDA is letting business resume as usual so as to not stifle this potentially historic innovation....the company is small enough and has had nothing but positive results, and has also been working hand in hand with the FDA through "hundreds of pages", essentially helping write the rule book. The FDA is not stepping in even though "technically" they dont have FDA approval....but SVFC will, of that I am confident.
Possibly. Who knows at this point. I think it can see .0008.
Huh? The financials are all unaudited. Go check the OTC for yourself.
We still need that all important full on FDA approval. Same goes for international patents. IMO those are the final pieces needed for us to break through commercially.
Its hard to justify buying a license when theres a chance, however miniscule, that it would prove invalid due to a lack of clearance using this literally brand new field/tech....a tech that is science fiction in its capabilities.
This company and its tech will be "too good to be true" right up until it is accepted wholesale. Then holy crap. Jmo.
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Cheap prices here. Looking forwarded to a strong quarter, keeping the uptrend in tact.
No they arent. The most recently quarterly is unaudited, as are the rest.
Yea, the way things are going we could see trips, but loading even here is a ridiculous price, and its not far off from trips. Id rather make sure I get some right here, and can always make another buy if it drifts lower.
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Average down. Dont let the terrorists win, lol.
But seriously, you will jump off a bridge if/when this company achieves critical mass if you walk away at this point.
But truly seriously, Id consider adding....I am next week for sure.
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Nice
Added a few more here. Love the longterm potential.
Ill be back in touch in a week.
The fall will be ugly. Take the money and run. None of the PRs have truly verifiable information. Typical pump dump stock.
Talk about SCROOGES. Sick.
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Ruuuuunnnn
The fall will be as fast as the rise. Run now IMO.
5% of gross is a crapton of revenue. Many businesses only profit that amount. At 3 million revenue thats $150,000. And I suspect five years from now itll be millions of dollars. Not sure shrewd is the proper word, but I dont know much about that situation.
Nothing other than your post actually, lol. So it may prove to be a contrarian, reactionary response. But I dunno.
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This time next year IMO.
Ditto. ;)
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Indeed. And FDA approval. And international patents granted fully.
But when those dominos drop...holy f*%^# $#!+ m^##^#^er.
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We all have our opinions. Nice of you to leap from the not reporting revenues drama, the issue I disagreed with and responded to, to a completely different aspect of the filings.
No doubt shareholders are currently getting beat up, but they are also doing what they are supposed to, what going public is for, which is raising money. The majority of the investors here are in it for the story and for the long run potential, not to flip. Many of us see that the end game is reasonably achieveable, and its worth helping the company raise money. And If the company goes on to do what its capable of NO amount of dilution will stop anyone here from making a truckload of cash. So ill take .002 shares all day long when it comes to being able to say we invested in a damn near health miracle company.
As for Mr. Victor not putting his own skin in the game and taking a salary, its TBD (to be determined) IMO. I wouldnt expect to see this same pattern for the next year if they company continues to dilute. If he would be paying himself hundreds of thousands of dollars with .002 shares, that would be something to take issue over. But he just went on the clock as far as something like that goes.
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And I repeat again that this is NOT a big deal at all at this stage in the game. There are legitimate, nonearth-shattering reasons for the filings being the way they are, but you choose not to feel that way. Perhaps do more DD on the FDAs rules and where SVFC believes (correctly) they are exempt. They just need to (which they are) work with the FDA to clear it all up. Until its 100% OK they likely wont book revenues, which makes SENSE.
as for "shouldnt be operating without full aproval". the FDA hasnt shut them down, and athletes and other humans have experienced the power of this tech and I havent seen anything but praise.
But yes, lets freak out about tiny shards of gray area revenue and try and paint a black and white picture of what constitutes right/wrong in a BRAND NEW FIELD.
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Yes, lets talk in circles.
Pass.
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Again, they are currently operating in a legal gray area. Once they are cleared by the FDA I expect revenues will flow as the process will be fully legal and marketable. In the meantime itd be silly to book revenues on a procedure that isnt fully approved. Many of their current patients are likely test patients helping advance the process. This is still the very beginning.
It can show zero revenue until it shows tens of millions of revenue for all I care.
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A bubble while millions are still underwater on their mortgages.....Oooook. The fiscal hawkishness of the Rightwing needs to be toned down. Ive heard of the printing press hyperinflation bubble nonsense since Obama got in office. DEFLATION is more of a concern, and with PE of stocks at historical averages there are no bubbles in sight IMO. China is supposed to have collapsed by now too because their government has such a central role, yet I see them year after year kicking butt and taking names. We could grow a 5-7.5 percent too if our government (and corporate CEOs) would invest in the economy and its workers up and down the ladder, instead of the 1 percent hordingmore and more of the national pie and not spending/investing it.
Either way, FNMA is still a fantastic investment. It wasnt even their fault the housing market melted down in the first place. They just bore a brunt of it because they are involved in the entire thing. It may take some time, but eventually equity stakeholders should rake here IMO. But any bubbles in the real estate market will likely be tiny and very regional, as superrich drive up the prices on already mega expensive properties. The rest of the market, while recovering briskly, finally, still has a ways to go just to get back where it was 7years ago.
Yea I just put us green with 100k. Slowly but surely getting my pile.
Nice. Well, ill be seein ya again whenever the party starts for real.
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Damn whered u come from playa. Havent seen u in these parts in months. Then I again, I havent been in these parts much lately.
Perhaps that where some of the funds from dilution are going. Clean up that balance sheet.
I salute your conviction buys. So does the company Im sure. You can safely say you helped build the company when this goes nuclear.
Ahhh the Kiosks are given away to start....no wonder they have such capital issues. Im sure they pay for themselves over time but thats a tough cost to bear up front. Seeing that 40kiosks are on order is awesome, but also makes me wonder if cash flow is why they arent deployed yet. Thats quite the bottleneck. Youd think some investors somewhere would be willing to throw down some money to move it to the next level....perhaps itll just take a little bit more growth.
The possibilities here are endless though. Its all about the growth curve.
Just bought 1700 shares, woot woot.
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Thats certainly logical, but from where I sit the company is diluting because they NEED to, they have NO choice....not even Waiting for a turnaround in price. The MMs have been consistently taking the price to where the volume is, and its been a slow bleed as people are willing to pay less and less for more shares as the company generates funds. There was a stretch where they wouldnt let it dip below .01, but now thats done with who knows....its proof they need the money when you have such a sexy SS then nuke it in a couple months.
I guess my point is that if people keep buying at this level we will stay here. If they dont, MMs will take it down until volume starts flowing again. I just dont see little updates from the company being helpful catalysts driving us north aymore. Well need big boy news, like FDA approval, before we rocketship...but when we get it well probably blow past .05 too.
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It all depends if SVFC will turn off (or will be able to turn off) the dilution spigot. Im sure them seeing solid volume isnt going to make them want to stop when that money can be used for something.
Theyve already destroyed my hopes of a non billion shre structure. Now its just a matter of when they stop. 2bil? 3bil? 5bil? I didnt expect 1billion so I have no idea what they are capable of. But considering we are essentially subsidizing some of the most expensive real estate around, And needing to do other research as the possibilities keep proving to be endless... cash burn rate will be high. 1billion shares at .002 is 2million. So between 2 and 4million bucks for a billion shares.....how far will that get em?
As far as the real estate, you get what you pay for. Id prefer to be smack dab in the middle of Manhattan swinging a big one if its going to work itself out. This will certainly be a highly saught after process once the go aheads are all in place. Itll look really good for outsiders to see we arent in podunkville USA.
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That costs money though. Im sure he will add staff as needed but also as sales permit. Theres always that fine line to walk.
Its easy to fall into the trap of blaming someone when things dont go perfect, when in fact there may be no relation whatsoever. This CEO has done a bang up job from what I can see in many areas. Its a great foundation to build from for sure, and thats all you can ask for. If sales keep moving up then id expect to see a position here and there start popping up in the office.
Ill bring the, ahem, entertainment. Lol
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I was wondering how high your total was getting. The afterparty in Vegas is in your suite bro ;)
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