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all i can say is ive never been charged 10 bucks for 20 shares of a penny stock....sometimes i just put in a market order and have never been screwed...all i know is i put in a buy at the going rate and almost always get them in a very short time...
but like i say, im not concerned about the .001's..
i dont need the link...i already know...just thought you might want to learn something so you can post a little more accurate information the next time..but ok
i have no clue what you are talking about...and no, i have NEVER been charged 10 bucks for 20 shares of a penny stock...you enter your bid and they may fill the order from several different places in 5k, 10k or whatever increments...but you only get charged once...
on the other hand, what is common for me is to buy at the ask....if i think a stock is going to move soon, i dont screw around trying to get it at .08 instead of .081...why on earth would i or anyone?...
i also frequently get the stock at a price that is actually lower than i bid...
the pps will pass well beyond one dollar with a 150 mil dollar deal....
r/s for kblb at ANY time is a bad idea...and you brought it up so i am telling you...you brought up a very bad idea..
if kblb did a reverse split today it would drop like a rock...if it did a reverse split to get onto nasdaq when it doesnt belong there, it will drop like a rock...
you can analyze it forward and backwards..you can complain it shouldnt be that way for whatever reasons you pick out of thin air...
but that wont help the sp when it drops...
lol...kblb is an 8 cent pink sheet...aon orders are ridiculous for such a stock...if you want shares, buy them... .081 or .082..who cares?..they are going to 12 bucks a share soon right??..lol
you might want to take a look at the nasdaq small cap listing requirements..
"KBLB has done the "first flight" with the silkworm and that was validated by the PNAS study"
kblb hasnt done a damn thing...the scientists at nd and wyoming did the research which was mostly funded by others...(btw, i stopped reading your post at this point..its farther than i usually go because it was addressed to me)...
the wright bros and their first flight dont apply..they did it, they recorded it and they announced it immediately...they didnt wait 2 years...you think if they achieved flight and then 2 years later were flying hundreds of miles they would have just announced a 30 second flight as their crowning achievement?..or do you think they just might have announced how far they had gone with it??
yea, exactly...and thats the case with the silk worm gm's....supposedly they have taken the gm much farther than the initial breakthrough but seem satisfied with simply reporting the intial breakthrough...why?...
and why did not kblb take up the banner and start waving it all over the place letting everyone know just how far its all gone since then?...why didnt they sieze the momentum?...i know, many here think that it was just such a crafty move on kblb's part to stay virtually silent...that surely kblb must have a really good reason to be acting stupidly...well unfortunately that hasnt been the case..
r/s are generally the kiss of death in pink sheets..looked down upon for a whole bunch of reasons...the idea that doing a reverse split to get a stock on a board it doesnt yet belong on is not a good reason for a r/s...doing a r/s to try to keep a stock on a board it no longer qualifies for is viewed as bs also..
theres almost no good reason for a r/s..the idea that a pink sheet would want to do one or has to do one is not going to be looked at favorably..not for any reason...the share price usually gets beaten down badly...if you think thats just wonderful then i am at a loss for words because that is just plain ridiculous..
they sometimes end up working out ok...but not for companies like kblb..
well i havent lost my retirement..but yea, i do pretty good..
"Any experienced, astute, SUCCESSFUL, investor/trader will tell you that technical analysis is LEAST EFFECTIVE in developmental-stage companies"
nope i would not say such a thing...
you could have bought 3 to 4 times as many shares with the same money had you waited....yes it was a bad buy..a very bad buy..and it doesnt matter whether you admit it or not..its still a fact
they dont....institutional investors employ people to investigate a company that might hold some interest to them...they employ people whose job it is to find companies that may interest them...those people will find out what kblb is, what they do and who they are associated with and absolutely anything else they can...when the institutional investor becomes aware of the incestuous relationships with the various bottom feeders, i doubt they will view that as a good sign...
its not like kblb is in any real danger of attracting institutional investors anyway, but they they are always on the lookout for potential and put them on their radar if nothing else....but not companies run like kblb with the associations it has....kblb will have to be extremely compelling to warrant iv involvement...
good luck with that....
well after the cc, when kim passes out all the new carrots, the path will still be just as unclear as it is now...but everyone will be so enthralled with all the new possibilities that it will be some time before they realize that they truly still dont know anymore than they did before the cc...
something tells me you are all going to get a huge pink education by the time all is said and done here...
in other words there is no validation of the work that is being done now or for the past 15 months...
Thanks for that assessment zinc...so monster silk is crap and kblb couldn't sell it...so now they are on to plan c which of course is really so much better anyway...uh huh
Yes but I trade..and yes I know a pr is coming but I'm not convinced its going to be all that..in fact I really kinda doubt it will be..I'm not interested in buying at .07 and watching it hit almost .11 just to ride it back to .07...that's just nuts...
This is the first time since I began trading this stock that I didn't sell it all...and sure enough it was a mistake...I'm still gonna do ok anyway but.....oh well
the chart is not looking good...i dont know what kim is waiting for (and neither does anyone else) but unless he does something soon, we will be right back where we started.. .07...
i sold half a few days ago...gonna have to decide if i should lock in my profits on the rest or gamble on holding...could even buy more if news hits but im not holding my breath...
with all the news and opportunities, this is just a pitiful situation for share price to be at...absolutely no excuse...and i have news for the longs here who seem to thinnk they are immune because they are long...this doesnt bold very well for any of you either...
think about it
"This frees the rest of us to worry about such trivialities as whether the research is meeting its goals and whether those goals are leading to products"
i agree...you should be very worried about all that...
100% accurate...
A deal with DuPont would positively affect kblb's bottom line which would attract investors which would translate to an increase in the pps...that's fundamental...psychology has nothing to do with it...
That is exactly right...buying is easy..selling is what is hard to do...whether its for a profit or to cut your losses...
this isnt rocket science...if i buy kblb at .07 and then i sell at .10 then i have made a very nice profit...
i will wait until its time to buy again....i dont care if the price has fallen or not...i dont care how long it takes..i will use my money elsewhere on other trades...if i get a signal that the stock is ready for another move up, i will begin accumulating it at whatever price its at...i dont care if its .07 or .10, .11 or .12...the idea that it must fall before i can or want to make money from it is ridiculous..
i will gladly make a quick 10,20,30% profit from a stock anytime i can get it..and i dont care where the buy is as long as i make money...
for some unknown reason some feel that traders need a stock to fall before they buy...completely false...i just need to know when the stock will rise...
i thought you said the atrocious web page was due to someone breaking his glasses...lol
now its some other nonsense..
personally i think it was simply a completely stupid shoddy piece of work from a typical pink sheet company..
"KBLB does not have one penny of revenues, why would an intelligent investor/trader think they SHOULD be trading higher?"
maybe because it has...maybe because that question was asked at .01 and now its 8 times higher...that question was asked just before it popped to .20...maybe because due to all thats happening, kblb has an opportunity to trade higher regardless of whether it "should" or not....if it CAN then it SHOULD...
"One of the first things a person should do is check out the Asset to Liabilities ratio of a company. KBLB's certainly is not good"
this is the pink sheets...why bother with asset to liabilities, book value or any of the other normal statistics?..they dont apply...all those things suck in any pink sheet...thats why they are pink sheets....if you value a pink sheet that way, you would never invest a dime in any of them.....which is of course one good reason i dont invest in them...
"If Kim/Ben would send a .pdf copy of an actual, legitimate contract to every investor, the pps would most likely rise and fade again until ACTUAL REVENUES are recorded on the balance sheet"
actually no..most likely it would rise very very high and fall back to a much much higher level of support....
"But KBLB has only 1 good shot at making a LEGITIMATE splash into the fabric/textile market, since they are relatively unknown"
its best to do it right the first time...but that doesnt mean you cant take many steps up and launch from a higher level...create some expectations..anticipation...theres nothing wrong with that...
"They had better take their time and make sure their product is viable, their contracts are profitable and their business plan is sustainable"
and therein lies the problem...a viable product..with all the bs being put out, no one really has a clue about that...certainly nothing about contracts...and as for a business plan created by kim and implemented by kim, well good luck with that...
"Sorry, the PNAS was a GREAT STORY, but it was NOT a material event for KBLB"
i disagree...it is what their whole business is based upon...ENTIRELY...if the science aint right then there is no reason for kblb to exist...if the science is good, then what kblb intends to do is possible......evidently the pnas gives the science credibility......but even if you dont believe it was material, theres still no reason not to captalize on the publicity in any way shape or form that you reasonably can....none
"But the IR's job IS NOT to increase the pps"
that seems to be a catch all saying for just about everyone involved in kblb...its not the ir's job to raise the pps, not the scientists, nor kim, nor the advisory board...whose job is it?..the janitors??.....exactly...its everyones job to see that the company succeeds...and that will have a positive effect on the pps...so in actuality, the pps is ALL their responsibility..they all have a responsibility to create value for their shareholders...
"But Kim is not interested in raising the PPS so people like you can make a windfall"........"Until then this is a place for people like you and I trying to buy low and sell high"
i guess you mean kim is not interested in people like US.....quite frankly i dont think kim is interested in any investor...
"Why is it dropping? Because the company value at this time is between .08 and .11 depending on who you ask"
just randomly putting out numbers like .08 and .11 doesnt mean anything unless you know what you are talking about...
"Why is it dropping? Because the company value at this time is between .08 and .11 depending on who you ask"
well at the moment the pps is .082...if the situation had been handled right, the pps could easily be at .15 or .20 and holding...and then take off from there at the next opportunity...but you're right..why would anyone want a higher pps...lol...kim might have to do some work to accomplish that..no sense being in a rush to do anything..lets just linger around the same pps we have been in for years now...lets just let opportunity just pass us right by.....you're right..its better that kim should prevent me from making a few bucks than to have any of his long term investors make any money...what the????
"Better question is. After putting out a PR every day like "real" stocks do what would you be saying?"
there is a time for taking care of busniess..there is a time to take advantage of opportunities...is there any doubt that this was the time?...do you really think kim is so afraid of what i might post that he just curls up in the fetal position?...lol
"You will never be positive about this stock so please dont make it like Kim could do something to change your nature"
with these kinds of missed opportunities, shabby web info, poor ceo and ir performance, its a little hard to be too terribly excited about the stock or kim....
i highly doubt im alone in that assesment...its just that many dont have the courage to speak up
"I really can't believe this is dropping to this level considering all that KBLB has going for it"
like i said...15 minutes of fame were about all that kblb was going to get and it was about over...the stock needed a little follow up from the great kim...but he doesnt really care..you would think he would have had a plan to keep the momentum going...not just for the stock price but for the company...he had great free publicity going...the word was getting out...kblb was not mentioned in a lot of the articles...it was up to the pr guy to see that kblb capitalized on that publicity to get the word out about the company that is supposedly soon to profit from all that great tech...
no one likes calm seas...no one thinks its a really great idea..everyone just backs it because thats what kim gave them..so be it...
its missed opportunities like this that makes me say kim aint the man to get kblb anywhere...if this is all part of a plan...its a crappy plan...and if there is no plan, then thats even worse..
theres no excuse for the website bs...letting your kids write it, broken glasses (lol), no real harm done, whatever..doesnt matter...theres no excuse...and trying to create an excuse is a disservice to everyone..
the opportunity isnt completely lost..yet...but the window is closing fast...
and yes, kblb will still go back up with news....but not near as much as it otherwise would have..
kim had the eyes and ears of many...if he were to seize the moment, he could have opened the eyes and ears of many many more..and quite possibly the pocketbooks of tons more...including financiers....but he hasnt...they are already moving on to other issues...
typical small time pink sheet thinking...typical pink sheet bs..typical pink sheet operation...shoddy website info, shoddy business practices...
wheres all the business advisors?..think they advised kim to just let all the momentum slip away?..
do you happen to see it attributed to anyone in particular?...do you see it attributed to anyone at all??...
how is, what for all intents and purposes, appears to be a completely anonymous statement supposed to allay anyones fears?..
obviously since it was on kblb's website, someone associated with kblb wrote it...no one at kblb is a scientist...i guess everyone can just assume that the scientists involved agree with the statement, but unfortunately, assumptions will not do....
how about "the ability to property chew"...
i would guess that kblb's wonderful ir guy who most think is doing such a great job is behind that...oh yea, lets all give him a well deserved thank you...lol
what a joke
geez...does anyone think this really answers anything???...i dont know if gm worms can survive in the wild or not...but seriously, how does kim putting out on his website his opinion that they cant, answer any questions?...
do you think maybe some might look at that as a self serving statement?...if anyone feels they have legitimate concerns, do you think the fact such a statement is put on kblb's website is proof positive?..lol
the page doesnt even indicate if that statement is agreed to by kblb's own scientists..it isnt even attributed to anyone...
i agree...but thats not what will happen..eom
"Yup, there are a possible million reasons, but no matter what could be the reason, there is still only 1. Logic says "
cant believe you would make a statement like that and then explain you got there using logic..lol
"I am far enough ahead that I can no longer lose"
more logic?...
the answer doesnt concern me...but im sure it would interest those with related inadequacies...i hope you get an answer...
my post didnt say anything about kblb making it or not...i simply said the cc was not really for questions and answers...i also said the advisory board was for show...
kblb will make it or it wont...it doesnt matter to me if it fails...if it makes it i will trade it just as i do now...if it becomes investment grade, i may even invest...
but none of that changes what i said about the cc or the advisory board...that remains true imo...
and for the record, i personally dont believe kim has what it takes to turn kblb into anything more than a mediocre company..even if he has pss, platform worms or spiderman himself at his side...
perhaps i wasnt clear enough...the questions dont matter...softball questions are welcome..hard questions will not get answered...of course many of the softball questions wont get answered either...they may be addressed all right...just not answered...
the cc is not for questions or answers..its for show...just like the advisory board and most everything else about kblb...kim will use it to put out what he wants to...thats all its for...
but he will be able to say he did a cc and not have to be bothered about one again for a while...
"There are a million reasons we have not heard about the CC"
"the only reason the company would not have put out the PR is they are waiting for something that is due any time"
it went from a million to one from one sentence to the next...lol
"The day traders expecting the same f/u you were are now exiting with a small gain"
maybe they did and maybe they didnt..exactly how does that matter to anyone?..
You should have read my post last night..I thought I made it clear..kblb's 15 min of fame was about up...and it didn't bring all that much with it...it's Kim's turn now...let's hope he doesnt screw it all up...
1~ What are the commercialization prospects of Monstersilk Gen 1 and how soon can we expect a deal?
the prospects look very good....and very soon
2~ Has the business plan changed due to the advent of the "blank" worms or are our short term targets still pure SS as Gen 2?
no and yes
3~ When will we see a lab?
when it becomes necessary
4~ Can Dr Fraser join Kim in the CC to explain NDs plans going forward?
no, he has other commitments..
5~ Does kim expect to see a silk equal to or better than drag line silk in this quarter?
that is imminent
6~ How many monster worms does KBLB have at this time?
we have as many as we need at this time..ramping up is on going..
7~ Is a total and complete buyout of KBLB within the realm of possibilities?
anything is possible but it would have to be a very unique set of circumstances and numbers..
8~ Are you considering taking on a full time salesperson?
eventually yes, that is the plan...
9~ Normal silk is about $60K a ton. What does Kim expect monster silk to sell for?
substantially more..i cant be more specific than that...
10~ What is the extent of input from the advisory board? Is it actively working on a day to day basis on establishing the best scenario for the commercialization of KBLB products?
i am utilzing the advisory board on a case by case basis as needed..
these are all pretty softball questions..and the answers dont even matter...kim would love all these questions...he doesnt have to answer any of them with any specifics whatsoever...and he has no intention of dealing with any difficult questions...
the question and answer session is to give the shareholders the false impression that they are an actual part of the company..that they are somewhat relevant...that he cares what they think...
lol..get real...he will answer what questions he feels like answering and wont what he doesnt no matter how important they are to you...
you are going to hear what he wants to say and also what he thinks you want to hear..your questions dont matter...