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are they going to paint it up or down? /e
er, um 63min <> 1.5hr
Dude, we already printed .0038 today, where were you?
Ride baby ride!!!!!
Congratulations, welcome to the club!!!!
I passed it @ .00193, I am sooooooooo green right now.
ultimately that is cool with me, it is not the work that bothers me it is the economics of how I trade from my retirement account. If I were in a non retirement environment I probably would have pulled at least some and tested the waters, that is just because I truly do believe in what this company stands for. That being said I also believe they have been a little less than forthcoming on certain points of important information. I just keep telling my self that they have reached a point where my opinion and support are no longer relevant to their well being. That my friend is a double edge sword, for some it spells doom, but then again look at AOL, dell, just to name a few. They have the support to piss of whomever they please and still thrive.
After all, I have already profited and I believe I will do so further. I believe among us is intelligent company and I could not be so jaded as to have fallen with the wrong crowd for so long without seeing some blatant warning.
Possibly, but a guaranteed 5X gain should be worth it to anyone. 20k = 100k.
Come on who just does so well that such would not be worth their time?
All I can say is my fingers are crossed and GLTA. It still doesn't make sense but as long as it is making me money I guess I should just let it ride.
that is all fine and well and I agree the cart does look wonderful, however do the math of
$1,000,000 @ current PPS .0024 = 416666666 shares / 10,000 = 41666 PDR's @ $135.00 per PDR = $5,624,910 return in just a few days.
There HAS to be a reason there are still outstanding shares if this is in fact true.
Considering if it continues to prosper, I know it seems counter productive to openly question this as it is making me more money, but seriously it does not make sense.
You still have to ask, IF it is true (And I am not saying it is not) WHY isn't everyone doing it. Ihub is a very large site, and many other very large boards are discussing it. Some of the people that read these things have millions that they wager all of the time on just these sort of bets. Why is it that there is not some HUGE movement if the money is that guaranteed. I have asked this question before and had responses like "they are just crazy not to be doing this" however these people are not crazy, they got rich by knowing what to do and what not to do.
Also, why wouldn't the company buy the entire float if the profit margin is that high. Is it the purpose of the fundacion to give away money?
I am already making money and hoping to make some more, how much who knows, but I am still not convinced this is the no brainier everyone is making it out to be.
I have had other companies go private in my account, all went without a hitch. And if they put a Penny on the table tomorrow I would take it and run. it would put me about 3X, I could live with that.
Sarcasm or support?
I mean I may be way off but I would think that going private with a decent offer would reward the longs that have supported them this far and within a couple of days put a big spotlight on the NSS if they are there.
I would take a penny no problem, it seems like the best of all worlds, promise more on the exchange, reward those who held long, and screw shorties in one swift blow.
that is of course IF everyone pulls certs and sends them, I for one have no intention of doing so. Others will not as well just due to the trouble involved (retirement account, fees, penalties, tax X 2, etc...)
How does a buy out go? I would assume the company tells all of the brokers to return the certs they hold on behalf of their customers and they they are financially responsible for the value of those certs set forth by the company.
I.E. If they believe that enough people have moved to the exchange, could they not just put a final offer on the table for the remaining shares and go private to run the exchange? It would put a final burden of proof to all of the brokers and if they made it a substantial offer then it would truly hurt those who had large amounts of phantom shares would it not?
O I am making money, I am quite green, I am just not as green as I want to be yet ;)
Thats the plan, maybe not early retirement, but retirement augmentation.
Not really, I would have to get a passport, pull certs, pay penalties, taxes, etc for withdrawal from my SEP, pay taxes again on the gain, and the list goes on. It was more of a joke than a serious offer, if there were some way to pull it off I would of course consider it but it was more of a blurb in response to all of the "sell your shares" to me comments.
I have 4.4 million, I would sell them for 44K that would equal 100 per PDR at shares/10,000 = 1 PDR and if PDR's are selling for 120/135 then that should be an instant potential gain of 8800/15400 respectively. If anyone can figure out how they could pay me and I could transfer ownership to them I would make that deal at anytime. I use Schwab in a SEP.
Ill start my own one time use personaly exchange! LOL
I am still curious what the real stats on this thing are who has bought/sold and how much, timeframes to fill/sell. Money transfered into/out of exchange, etc...
Happens from time to time, no matter how much planning, may I draw the courts attention to http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7648691
They probably gathered data from initial release, and are reconfiguring accordingly. Normal IMHO. Finding flaws builds strength in any platform.
I feel from some of the comments here we have a few developers in our midst, how many have ever deployed something this complex that just always without question worked. (My hand is not raised)
Microsoft has thousands of programmers, and millions of beta testers, they have to fix bugs too...
Um excuse me, come again?
Been here a long time, and a quite legitimate question IMHO...
I am forever scared, that is just for some reason creepy.
Still no one talking about the exchange that much, what is going on over there?
Many still talking US market here, how is the PDR exchange going, any action there, trades being made, volume thereof?
Considering this is the flagship we are all riding on, who is trading there, problems, successes, likes, dislikes.
Keep us up to date guys...
Anyone know if MT is going to be in the states this next week? I just took the week off and figured I might just go offer him lunch one day...
does the PR exchange keep stats like volume, last sell, graphs, charts, etc...
If so what are they reading?
I am officially green!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oops with 8mil in volume already!! /e
bell is coming, what does it look like out there?
I believe the PR said $10 per buy/sell
In case anyone has not noticed, we are #1 again /e
So if the company has no need to sell then the order sits UNTIL someone sells?
So If I were to put in a buy order for 1000 pdr's and only 100 were up for sell by another investor would I get 100 from Joe investor and 900 from the foundation? Or would there be a period in which people would be notified of others wanting to buy so they have the option to sell.
I.E. does your sell order have to be in first before a buy comes in?
Correct me if I am wrong here but the system acts like the us market, for you to sell someone has to buy, however to buy right now, you can buy directly from the foundation until the outstanding PDR's are purchased? Then to buy someone would have to sell?
I would figure there is a finite number of PDR's (although that could be increased as assets increase) and once they are all purchased they will be traded back and forth.
Though I am excited as hell it is finally open, does anyone else find it odd that the language selection only offers English?
I am sure it is on the beta, not the demo site... /e
Striking similarities true, I once compared it to the less elaborate shell game. But the end result of course being the same.
However with the names involved and relatively accessible structure to those people. It would be a far stretch to believe it is intentional deceit. They could of course fail but I do believe it would be more potential mis management vs illegal dealings.
I could not imagine it being transferable, otherwise you would have two PDR's of same value trading side by side with one ultimately having the potential to be worth more.
Just out of curiosity, those who were released from their NDA's. Was there explicit wording prohibiting release of the URL for the system?
As well, is the system currently in any way different from the beta system, and what exactly is the sell system like? Do yo set up a linked bank account where funds are transfered? How do they get your money back to you when you sell.
They never said when they said expected
Here y'all go, some people seem to have difficulty with the word expected http://www.google.com/search?complete=1&hl=en&q=define%3Aexpected
And I am sure none of those people bitching at the delay have ever anticipated they would have anything completed by a certain time only to find out it was more involved or took more time. Why surely not because that would make them all hypocrites wouldn't it?
Geese people if you want to complain about life, the universe, and everything, save it for church.
If however you have a taste for real life and constant change, welcome to the stock market.
Get a grip (I am sure they sell them on ebay as well)
Since when are the mods responsible for the market? The exchange has not opened, opinions are wavering at this point therefor most are being cautious, and the PR said EXPECTED to open Tue 6-19. Exactly what is so hard to understand?
BTW:MODS, I believe deletion was a right fine response ;)
Volcan? Don't the people there have pointy ears? /e