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Let us not forget scanner jamming ;)
Because they typed it wrong and forgot the other zero's.
Because they just wanted to see the dog move?
Because they had friends here that they missed?
Perhaps it is a denial of service attack at IHUB, make PNMS move and overload their servers with speculative comment?
with history like this thing has, it will take more than the now 80k moved to make any real difference.
Hope, maybe, but very very minute hope at this stage.
No one, only 30k moved, hell I own many tens of times that much...
It did however get my attention to see it move, though my account had a glitch!
Anyone of us that has been here long enough could send it crashing with a single sell, I have personally been sitting on a shit load for years.
Curious none the less...
The one and only thing that ever offerd hope here is there had been no RS, that there may be hope if I let this eyesore sit in my account for a few years it may recover something.
Crash burn, now not worth ther trade fee to dump it...
Sucks it took so long for the other shoe to drop.
Yes, I have been holding the bag on a several million for a couple of years now, I have watched it do nothing but fall further.
I think I still watch it from time to time to see if it has gone below zero and they are going to bill me...
Trust me if there was a way it could be done, these guys would have duped someone into it by now...
Picture PNMS as a vacuum, 18M scoops of a vacuum, still amounts to nothing ;)
Um with all the rants still aimed at Pedro and Terrell, has no one read the blog recently? Looks to me they are being prosecuted?
I have been out of the loop lately, what happened?
Actually for me it would not be a bad idea over all for relatively cheap, I could average way down, and then...
Sorry had to stop laughing long enough to type it...
Then IF this thing ever did anything I could bail out early and lose less.
The hole in that theory is that I have already tried to do exactly that and it would not go through, had in buys for 6m a couple of weeks ago, not a single share came my way.
A fools bet I know, but at my current break even point, I will never see anything close to even getting it back, much less profit.
Anyone else use chuck?
Just strange, I try to forget I even have this dog, however yesterday at close it showed me .0003, this morning .0001 and now .0002 yet reports no volume since yesterday.
anyone else see the same, all my other symbols seem to be working fine...
Yes, I do agree, however the hidden meaning was for people other than the investors to get rich, and I agree as well that maybe the benefits will be soon seen, however seen in the respect that we will see that they have indeed benefited from taking all our funds.
Anyone that is holding this one on fundamentals speak up (intelligently please with something other than cheer leading) , however I believe most of us are holding to attempt at least a partial recovery from the scam.
The only reason I still hang around this place and post is to maybe at least make someone think twice before drinking the kool-aid and or buying into the BS that is shoveled out in truckloads.
In the words of the late Fred Rogers...
Can you say scam, sure you can...
They are not buying it because it is not the first time the bait has been cast. It is only that now people are less likely to bite ;)
Thirded for what it is worth. but this will get deleted as well.
I have sent emails concerining the conversion process, how they plan to handle my SEP trading conversion problem, and requesting details on how they intend to ultimately honor any of their claims.
Never even received a confirmation, much less a response.
one such was
"Hello,
My name is <My Name>. I currently hold 6,999,998 shares of PNMS public stock.
I would like to request information concerning the offer being made for share conversion.
I trade out of my SEP via Charles Schwab .
I would like to know how users of such accounts could achieve such a conversion and what the plans are to to honor the offer, in cash or in other securities?
If other securities, what are the value of the securities based on and how can their value be verified.
Thank you."
To quote a previously deleted post, directly related to PNMS, but deleted for being Off-Topic...
"Through careful observation and experience I have come to define Off-Topic as thus... (all of course relating directly to the occurrences in this public forum directly relating to PNMS and believed completely by myself, likely others, to be influenced by the "powers that be" that hold OUR money)
Gracious statements certifying "Faith" in PNMS are well received.
Belligerent hateful statements are generally well tolerated because it gives the "Faithful" things on which to step in order to elevate them selves.
However intelligent and or clever rebuttal of the faith is most oft ill received as it challenges the faithful to potentially see something above and beyond the greed that holds them close to their faith which registers as distasteful or vulgar to them no doubt."
I would take .05
I have to agree looking awesome!!!
And by awesome I mean pathetic considering we are down 2 ticks and out thousands of dollars, you must be in at .000001 ;)
No need to do that, with the money he stole from me he could afford a larger pipe ;)
Well there is not direct translation however it loosely translates from pump to english as...
"Hi, I believe there are people here still niave enough to believe in this POS so let me spray sunshine in your eyes."
(Not mentioning any names, but somone just got off the ban list for a reason...)
RS is probably the next step, not because it would make sense, but because it was promised NOT to happen, and thus far it is about the only promise they have not broken.
Common whoever the CBSO is currently, can't bat a 1000 if you leave one unbroken ;)
LOL, well depending on who you believe the world was built in 7 ;)
(Not me of course)
Now that being said, you cannot of course seriously believe all of this is normal development practice could you. I have written e-commerce sites, and helped with the deploy and implementation of dozens of others. Had I been responsible for the ongoing failure that is the exchange, I would have likely been fired for incompetence and replaced long ago.
Software, and or development is not the issue. There are many site developers out there that could have had it operational in days, weeks at the most. And all of that would have been done BEFORE the first user ever logged in. (yes I know there could have been minor bugs after the fact, but nothing like the abysmal failure this is.)
The failure is in the management and overseeing of the development and implementation process, one that could only be perceived as a complete lack of understanding or lack of concern. That coupled with the fact that regardless of the state and or functionality of the software side of the exchange, it is pointless without solid business practices to back it up.
No my fellow PNMSer, Rome was not built in a day, but it damn near burned to the ground in one night, while its delusional and tyrannical leader "Played fiddle"
"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived, and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. " -- John F. Kennedy
Further reinforcing the point
"guaranteed a minimum price of $0.02 per share or
the current market price" means you can get $'s for PDR's.
BACKED by gold to me only means they have, or rather claim they have tangible assets to back up the price guarantee.
Either way they HAVE promised people will be able to cash in. However they have yet to show any good faith that they will ever be able to honor it.
Mark this post... when the time comes to honor their "Price Guarantee" it will go down like this...
"Congratulations all fundacion benificiaries... Today marks another day in the dream that is panamersa... Today is the day all of your waiting pays off, we have officially and by officially I mean artificially, inflated all of your holdings! According to our beloved PDR exchange your assets are now worth .02 per share. We would like to wish everyone the best of luck finding buyers and then best of luck getting the proceeds."
And to make it even more funny, just a little coincidence, not exactly meant to imply that they are conspiring against the world via spell check, but it is funny as hell when my spell check comes across PDR's it suggests Pedro's as a correction option. (A sign if there ever was one IMHO)
I am going to have to agree with that one... The pr reads "will be guaranteed a minimum price of $0.02 per share"
$ indicates money, the PDR's are suppose to be gold BACKED, I.E. their value should be as stable as the gold market, if the gold is there the cash for it should be available.
I have a story on PNMS business logic right here, I believe they have read it and based an entire corporation around the message it teaches. Any one see any really creepy similiarities?...
Young Chuck, moved to Texas and bought a donkey from a farmer for $100.00.
The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day.
The next day he drove up and said, 'Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the donkey died.'
Chuck replied, 'Well, then just give me my money back.'
The farmer said, 'Can't do that. I went and spent it already.'
Chuck said, 'Ok, then, just bring me the dead donkey.'
The farmer asked, 'What ya gonna do with him?
Chuck said, 'I'm going to raffle him off.'
The farmer said, 'You can 't raffle off a dead donkey!'
Chuck said, 'Sure I can Watch me. I just won't tell anybody he's dead.'
A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, 'What happened with that dead donkey?'
Chuck said, 'I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $898.00.'
The farmer said, 'Didn't anyone complain?'
Chuck said, 'Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back.'
Well then.. Lets try this from another angle.
To those who are so avidly promoting the conversion process I raise the folowing question.
I trade out of my SEP, to withdraw I have to pay a penalty + applicable taxes. IF I were to do so and convert to the exchange I would do so at already above %80 loss of my original investment on a gamble that has yet to pay anyone anything, backed by more hollow promises of future returns with no mention of how they intend to honor them.
What posible logic could there be in someone doing this, I can give my self an IOU for a million dollars, I do not need them to do it for me.
Bought a lot, lost a lot of money, bought more on the way down to try and average out to what one day might possibly be at least part of my money back, been waiting a LONG time.
Exactly how long are people supposed to be patient?
Sometimes I feel like some of the posters here are related to the infamous black night...
I tell you what, if there is one among use that have made anything out of this OTHER than a quick buck on its bounces, speak up, because you sir have found the grail...
The rest of us...
We hear nothing but two halves of coconut being clapped together ;)
Unfortunately it is however not even on the radar where the money changes hands.
I would venture to say it would have to be fertilizer... ;)
Although I have no evidence to contradict or even question that, I do have to ask. If you were issuing a PR with as already bad of an image as they have. And it was of this supposed importance, would you not proof read it like a hawk? And or at the least issue an immediate correction IF something was discovered that warranted correction?
Not saying there is any intentional wrong doing, but behind the ball to say the least...
That would only make me a millionare... But I guess I would take it *sigh* if it were ever even a possibility.
Personally I would take the .003 just to wash my hands of it all, but everyone of us that have been here for the long haul see it as another screw us out of what little they left behind scam.
And of course it does nothing for the SEP holders that traded in it.
PNMS Cannot loose its most diehard believers, most are too far in to quit.
Signal seems very clear to me, if you have it hold it (only because it is not worth selling right now, nor is anyone buying) and if you do not have it...
There is a new company promising to build cruise ships on the moon, they seem a safer bet right now ;)
But there is a good side, we can't possibly go more then .0004 further down, right!!!
How depressing this has become...
well if only I had that chart in advance next time, geeze...
Seriously though, in order to have turned the 85k you would have had to move massive amounts of shares at those prices and that number of shares moving would have altered the chart, so though I do share your optimism, that is not exactly telling the whole truth...
They have been bluffing for quite some time, not sure how much time is needed for things to come out, but at current hold time, I wouldn't bet the farm.
****NEWS***** PANAMERSA Corporation/PayPro, Inc. to begin Syndication and Development of a $100,000,000 16th Century Pirate City and Theme Park
Tuesday January 16, 7:00 pm ET
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Thats cool, however they should perhaps hire another PR writer, this would not be the first time an ambiguous statement has left them with it swinging in the breeze.
That is one of the major factors that has progressively scared me more over time. They have claimed they have millions riding on the line, yet simple things seem to fall through the cracks. I can only hope they are more detail oriented in their accounting or one day we may get the uh oh PR stating they accidentally misplaced a few zeros on their financial statement...
May I direct the courts attention to.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15260709
where you will notice the following
"DALLAS & PANAMA CITY, Republic of Panama--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Micheal Scott Terrell, President of PANAMERSA Corporation/PayPro, Inc, a US Public Company, based in Dallas, Texas, U.S.A., and "JORDI" Jorge Gimenez Huguet, author and founder of Port SAE Productions, from Barcelona, Catalunya, Spain, signed an "Economic Interest Association Agreement" ("A.I.E. in Spanish") to coordinate, to promote, to develop and to build "Port SAE, La Fortaleza" in one of PANAMERSA's operating regions, to be disclosed at a later release."
yes actually many a million shares that I started over a year ago when the price was far above this point. I own no PDR's first in part due to the fact I trade out of my SEP and they have yet to provide a reasonable way to accommodate those people. And second because I consider it a fools gamble at this point due to everything from needing my passport number to providing a highly unstable platform with which to trade. Selling and moving on at this point would be equally foolish, they have already bled my initial investment almost completely dry, to not allow the remaining to stay on a gamble would of course destroy any chance of recovering even a portion of what has been lost. See I am stuck here like many others, waiting and hoping that in the end what once appeared to be a wise investment pans out to be at the very least a decent investment. I of course do not blame them directly for my investment, that was a choice I made. I do however hold them completely accountable for the poor business management, and lack of shareholder communication.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Dont know how loud that was, but believe me friend I have a LOT riding on this lil' jewl ;)
My guess is that it will be redeemable in gum balls, but only if you collect in panama.
Here is the news, Hype is over, PPS is down, Most promises at this point have proved either completely hollow or grossly over predicted, didn't you get the memo?
Do you guys really believe your selves? It is not like the same claims have not been made for over a year, but wait... NOW is the time! Honestly you do no better than the basher to constantly cheer lead on claims made of steam.
I swear sometimes the claims are no more than the same theory as the broken watch, correct twice a day. If every day you claim change is coming, if and when it finally does it appears you actually knew what was going on. The only flaw in that theory is you must be wrong potentially thousands of times to be right once ;)
Point is, all of the hype and just one more week..., you will all see... comments has now come 365 days late and still counting.