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Agreed Wick. I was explaining the Q for someone that asked why we trade down. A message board is not doing this to the price. It is okay to discuss it for those that ask a question.
I own shares and am comfortable shooting it straight. Anyone that read the Q knows formulas are headed in the wrong direction for now.
It must have news to move it up. Fundamentally and Technically, it is not a buy. People do not trust management and this hurts a speculative opportunity big time.
It is all about speculation and an entry for a trade only. Investing and GZFX have never worked.
Re: hebroots. Not many people will shoot you straight on here while owning shares.
They deleted all my posts explaining why we sell off. This will probably also be deleted because it tells the truth.
Simply:
Say you personally bring in $ 1 and spend $ 4.
And next year you bring in $ 2 but spend $ 7.
Yes, the Revenue increased but so did the Net Loss. Revenue growth percentage Cannot do less than Net Loss.
You could brag about 100% increase in revenue all day, but you would be bankrupt because the Net Loss is what matters. The formula is headed in the wrong direction for now.
Worst part is company cash came from selling shares to market, thus diluting the public shares in the billions.
In a nutshell, the Q. The subs are the revenue. And GZFX is relying completely on CC to make it. This frightens the public that GZFX range for subs (per prior Q) was 1,500-2,500 added per month.
GZFX only added 666 subs last quarter.
All in all, the numbers must improve. Many do not trust management and want to see them back up the talk before investing.
Maybe we can blame the lack of subs next Q on the GnF streamer being down. LOL. Might as well point the finger again.
Perhaps a Market Maker broke it during manipulation ! haha.
retired56sc, Sorry you have lost so much money on GZFX. Maybe you will get it back someday. Next time take the emotion out of it. Hope you are not using the Retirement money ?
* I trade and information changes daily. You must be quick to adjust. Much different than holding long no matter what happens. This has been stated many times. Some people take the blinders off and make money here.
Those that trade and actually listen to the posts have made a small fortune. I am thanked daily by PM and e-mail. It keeps me posting here for sure.
Again, sorry you have not had any success with GZFX. Holding long enough and with enough hype it may work out in 2008?
There are many traders here to help you.
Sorry again for your losses on GZFX.
Let me know how I can be of help. Perhaps talking thru the anger of the loss may work. You want my e-mail to discuss how the OTC works.
ot: Tina, great observation! You are good.
Add: the constant baseless pumping 24-7 also turns away many quality posters. Getting Personally attacked for bringing forth the truth is not appealing to people. It is yet another reason the board has turned sub par in a hurry.
The quality discussions that went on here now take place outside of the board. Very sad because I-Hub used to be a quality place to post dd on GZFX.
Many solid contributors to the board have been run off. Can you imagine a potential investor stopping in. I bet they do not stay long before making the decision to run away. So much bickering and little productive dialogue.
If a board controlled the price, we would be much higher because all we see here is hype each and every day.
Got the shares last week per my post.
Asking questions about a Q does not make anybody a basher. Just like asking questions about religion does not make you an immediate Atheist.
Anyone that runs the numbers or talks with JF knows the real deal.
Intelligent people ask questions. All can always be improved. The purpose of a board is to discuss the company. A newly released Q gave a nice chance for discussion.
A steady rise is what we want moving forward.
* if boards controlled the price, we would be way up now considering most posts are hype without explanation.
Agreed Legal, it will be key if the Moving Average can hold. A nice base may be formed ahead of news.
Re: Rckhnd, Need to look at Net.
Sub count is GZFX revenue, so it must correlate and keep up with expenses.
f) Net Losses.
The Company had net losses of $1,588,948 and $675,704 for the quarters ended March 31, 2006 and 2005, respectively, an increase of $913,244 or approximately 135%. This increase is the result of the factors discussed above. The Company anticipates having recurring net losses during 2006.
Ask Xan and Moderators to see all deleted posts and decide. you must read them all before commenting. Only repeated information came After original was deleted.
Formulas can be helpful to some. They also can be grounds for a cordial discussion.
Censorship does not help those trying to evaluate the Q.
* I own shares but formulas with the numbers pose some interesting questions. So not a basher nor a pumper. Just discussing the real numbers in the Q.
If people want all one side, why come to a discussion board? What about those people that were told 16 cents was a nice buy and hold? Same sentiment here today at 1 penny.
We should rise based on my post a few days ago. So both sides are being presented. But let's not discount some of the items on the Q that should be addressed.
ot: Guessing the Market Makers read the Q too and are also disappointed. It is obviously all a MM and message board conspiracy. The actual numbers and actions of GZFX do not matter, LOL.
The Q numbers are recent and very real.
Who actually read the Q and ran the formulas ? I posted the up to date real number formulas pertaining to the Q but Xan deleted 8 posts immediately. Too funny. Instead of discussing, they get deleted because they brought up important New questions.
Guess the market is telling the story on the Q.
We can all agree that GZFX missed the estimate from the last Q. Whether it is 666 or 1,000 subs, it missed badly.
"We anticipate this growth to continue to a monthly basis ranging from 1,500 to 2,500 new subscribers per month to our overall subscriber base."
No excuses. Why did they not estimate lower and then it would not be an issue? Seems like overpromising and coming in 50% UNDER the low end estimate disappoints more than helps.
Goes back to trust and the validity of what they say. We can excuse them for many things, but why hold them accountable for Overpromising all the time ???
It is in growth stage, we can agree. But why do they come in short of the lowest end estimate. Someone please explain. Especially if this does not include CC. What can we actually trust when numbers are presented if never met? imho.
* not a bash as I own shares. Worth a discussion because GZFX needs to be able to sustain subs without relying only on CC.
Re: Nostinkinc, 666-1,000 subs per month is all.
Xan, most recent update is 1 per store per week. This concurs with the Q too. Call JF and talk with him.
JF stands by 25,000 subs for entire 2006. Makes sense as only has 8,000 now and 3 months gone already for 2006.
And the subs added were 666 per month because the 6,000 sub formula would also adjust. Even at 1,000, they missed badly.
Regardless, 666 subs or 1,000 will not cut it when Net Losses are over 1.5 Million in a Q. The subs generate the revenue and need to come in outside of solely relying on Circuit City.
(f) Net Losses.
The Company had net losses of $1,588,948 and $675,704 for the quarters ended March 31, 2006 and 2005, respectively, an increase of $913,244 or approximately 135%. This increase is the result of the factors discussed above. The Company anticipates having recurring net losses during 2006.
We can all agree that it missed the estimate from the last Q. Whether it is 666 or 1,000 subs, it missed badly.
"We anticipate this growth to continue to a monthly basis ranging from 1,500 to 2,500 new subscribers per month to our overall subscriber base."
No excuses. Why did they not estimate lower and then it would not be an issue? Seems like overpromising and coming in 50% UNDER the low end estimate disappoints more than helps.
Goes back to trust and the validity of what they say. We can excuse them for many things, but why hold them accountable for Overpromising all the time ???
It is in growth stage, we can agree. But why do they come in short of the lowest end estimate. Someone please explain. Especially if this does not include CC. What can we actually trust when numbers are presented if never met ? imho.
Some people are so disappointed in the Q. JF pulled the Overpromise card again. Some posters hype and spin per the PM's I get all to get out at a higher price.
Infrastructure and future can only hold up as an argument for so long. It has been years and only 8,000 subs !!!
Outstanding shares cannot go more than Authorized. No mystery. They maxed out the Authorized at the time. The billions more come on future Q's because A/S's are increased now.
EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS GOOD, To MAX OUT A/S's on the Q ?? No end in site for the future.
It is what happens after it was increased to 25 billion that is in question.
- Glad you admit that only 666 subs per month and 135 % increase in Net Loss is not working.
Thanks JF, Overpromised and Underdelived yet again !
When can shareholders trust you with such a disconnect ?
Sorry the Q disappointed so many here. The unknown spending increase sure is interesting. And net loss increase of 135%.
Sorry to hear about all the disappointed people yet again. Be realistic moving forward.
unknown_factor refuses to discuss what is below, diverting to the poster yet again.
Explain how Outstanding Shares now over 4 billion ? Dilution has happened. When will it end ?
We discussed this on the board yesterday. New dilution has been confirmed by JF on his most recent update.
He could only go with the max on Authorized shares at the time.
Please read the board before accusing people falsely, unknown.
- Explain on 666 subs added per month when they claimed 1- 2,500
- Thoughts on 135 % increase in NET LOSSES.
- Thoughts on 1900 % increase ! Investing Activities.
Net cash used in investing activities was $4,606,283 for the three months ended March 31, 2006 compared to $225,852 for the three months ended March 31, 2005, an increase of $4,380,431 or approximately 1,900%. This increase resulted from increased investments of cash that the Company had as a result of the recent additional funds provided by Golden Gate Investors, Inc. as a result of the Addendum to Convertible Debenture and Warrant to Purchase Common Stock, between that firm and the Company (as discussed below).
Chicago, you are intelligent. We both agreed. The dilution comes AFTER the quarter ended March 31st.
Makes no difference. It keeps the price down and halts any price advancement from sustaining. They cannot be hidden from the float. Even with a gagged transfer agent.
And 4 billion shares is alredy way too many. Not sure the point ?
It is currently in the float. Tricking the public with Q timing of dilution may only fool some.
People here know what JF is doing.
Chicago, you are rational so let's discuss: Please answer each question.
How can this all equate as a successful formula?? Numbers are heading the wrong direction.
- Explain only 666 subs per month added when GZFX said on the last Q 1- 2,500 per month.
- Explain how Net Losses are up 135 % !
(f) Net Losses.
The Company had net losses of $1,588,948 and $675,704 for the quarters ended March 31, 2006 and 2005, respectively, an increase of $913,244 or approximately 135%. This increase is the result of the factors discussed above.
*** The Company anticipates having recurring net losses during 2006.
THIS MEANS THEY MAY NOT BREAK EVEN. 25,000 subs in 2006 may be a stretch.
- Explain how Operating Activities up 300 %.
The net cash used in operating activities was $1,443,711 for the three months ended March 31, 2006 compared to $357,333 for the three months ended March 31, 2005, an increase of $1,086,378 or approximately 300%. This increase is attributed to many changes from period to period, including the payment of stock based compensation.
- The above need to be working in opposite directions to be a success.
* Stocksquire, the quarter ended a few weeks ago, so the numbers are very real and current.
No, Kermit, the low sub count was always the concern. Read the posts. I stated several times that O/S's cannot go more than A/S's.
Check the date. Many more from same time telling you what to expect.
Posted by: ChicagoStock
In reply to: big_money_insiders who wrote msg# 147224 Date:4/10/2006 3:27:54 PM
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BMI, so your saying JAN FEB MAR only 2500 additional subs? That's 833/mon less then the est of 1-2.5k...
6k was as of Dec 31, 05.
CS
Actually, I was wrong, it came in much less thn 833/mo !!!
The following Q's will reflect the Dilution as stated numerous times.
Do not put words in my mouth.
TO DATE and future Dillution is the concern. Sub count is terribly low.
Please explain only 666 subs added per month when JF and Chip said 1,500-2,500 in the last filing.
In fact, every time I would say subs around 8,000-10,000, people would hammer me.
Please explain only 666 sub count added per month when SPENDING INCREASED 135 % into the millions !!
Sure someone can explain how Spending increasing 135% and 666 subs per month can make this work ??????
* keep the posts about GZFX and not diverting to the poster. I know the Q disappointed many, but do not take it out on me.
Beacs, 4 plus billion shares as of 4-4, JF on stockinformationsytems. They could only increase to the maximum Authorized Share amount at the time which was 4 billion.
JF's plan was to sell GZFX shares into news that came after the Quarter ended. And he did per the most recent update. We just never know when the selling for cash will end. JF keeps us in the dark about a target number.
Most of the dilution will show this coming Quarter. We knew this because O/S's cannot increase more then A/S's.
JF conveniently timed the 25 billion share filing to sell into the CC news. This came AFTER the end of the Quarter.
It is a reason that the stock has so much trouble advancing. Some of the shares have hit, but a gagged Transfer Agent will not allow us to see it until next Q. Great for JF and company.
And also Golden Gate conversions remain in play.
What are your thoughts on only 666 subs being added each month when they estimate 1,500-2,500 ?
And thoughts on where the 6 million from selling shares last quarter was actually spent ?
Beacs is level headed, anticipating a cordial discussion.
Great post. I would never even know about GZFX if not found randomly over a year ago while researching some OTC's. But how many people do that ?
The flyer is nearly impossible to see the ad if not specifically looking for it. Even then, it is difficult to see.
Bottom line, GZFX pays CC a ton for a sub. CC has accounted for very little subs to date. CC likes the free cash profit margin. Other than that, GZFX stands alone.
So many are rolling the dice completely on the Circuit City relationship. Much like many get emotional because all of their money is in GZFX stock. All in one basket is not good.
GZFX needs alter some things to generate subs. The plan is not working, 8,000 subs total after 3 years ? They spend too much money for such a low number.
How many are expected from VOD, race car, e-golf, JF speak up !! How much was spent on the ventures ?
All goes back to the astronomical cost per sub again. Compute it instead of avoiding it.
GZFX can only be defended for so long. The numbers are in front of you. And they run to end of March, so nearly current. More dilution came after March per the charts.
Since the plan is not working, what do you propose ?
The Q has to be very disappointing for those that shot out unrealistic sub counts for 2006. I am even worried about 25,000 being met at the current rate.
Alot of questions remained unanswered from the Q, AGAIN.
JF, step up and make a play. Bridge the shareholder disconnect.
Xan, Here is your math for subs entire 2006.
People were telling me to look for 15,000 subs and more, it came in at nearly HALF. Only 2,000 subs added for the entire quarter. 666 per month. But what do I know, lol.
8,000 subs is 666 added per MONTH since the last filing of 6,000 subs.
Glad that you now see where JF is anticipating only 25,000 subs by year end 2006.
666*9 more months after filing= 5,994 subs + 8,000 current= 13,994 for entire 2006 at current pace.
Then add 11,006 extra subs that will need to bump the average of 666 per month including the new CC subs, etc. Rollout will take awhile and GZFX anticipates 25,000 Including the CC rollout total for entire 2006. This is only if they can bump up the average.
They are well below the quoted average of 1,500-2,500 subs per month. hmmmmm, interesting, any ideas why ? They cannot solely rely on CC to save them. Not enough subs are coming out of the pilots. Do the math before replying.
This number looks more real than ever, 25,000 subs for 2006. Just ask JF.
Perhaps being realistic will prevent any future selloffs.
Glad that you now see why 25,000 subs for entire 2006 is the number.
A few things:
- 8,000 subs, 2000/3 months= Only 666.66 per month
- Either churn is high or just not producing with the current business plan. And relying on CC before it completely rolls out? What is the problem here. Does not even fit the 1,500-2,500 stated in the last Q ?? That number MUST include the cc rollout too.
- Now you see where 25,000 subs in 2006 (JF) is more realistic. See Q and JF as proof, lol.
f) Net Losses.
The Company had net losses of $1,588,948 and $675,704 for the quarters ended March 31, 2006 and 2005, respectively, an increase of $913,244 or approximately 135%. This increase is the result of the factors discussed above. The Company anticipates having recurring net losses during 2006.
- WHAT IS THE 6 MILLION FROM LAST Q BEING SPENT ON SPECIFICALLY ??????
Investing Activities.
Net cash used in investing activities was $4,606,283 for the three months ended March 31, 2006 compared to $225,852 for the three months ended March 31, 2005, an increase of $4,380,431 or approximately 1,900%. This increase resulted from increased investments of cash that the Company had as a result of the recent additional funds provided by Golden Gate Investors, Inc. as a result of the Addendum to Convertible Debenture and Warrant to Purchase Common Stock, between that firm and the Company (as discussed below).
Let's discuss and not bash the poster.
Z-Axis, you get it ! We all desire a bridge to the disconnect from management. Tell me this: how can it hurt the price to have updates? Not much has to be said (not much is said in PR's), but some questions could easily be answered. Too much mistrust and uncertainty in what JF will pull next.
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Well stated as usual, BMI. Some here say that JF hates short-termers while his business practices actually promotes the short-termers.
(retorical question):
With all of the things that have happened in the past few years, what has he actually done to promote long-term shareholders?
Good luck all, hopefully our CEO will start acting like a real one that can compete with the big-boys.
Nice post legal !
Some OTC's have had success is regular CEO letter updates. They do not have to promise anything, it just adds comfort and does not cost much to do.
Some statements have not been followed up on since 2004 !
They can say simple things, it would make all the difference.
GZFX has run off alot of shareholders because of uncertainty and trust. This environment creates Flippers. GZFX created the environment.
Their timing and decisions are all over the board. So it is uncomfortable for many to hold this company with so many questions.
Just some regular sort of update to help the people that fund his venture would be nice.
Unknown_factor, nice post !
Points well taken.
GZFX is a startup. They should embrace the shareholders that teamed up with them, not keep them in the dark.
Some cannot be shared, fair enough. But why not give updates on progress.
Many things are discussed and never updated again by GZFX.
All goes back to uncertaintly and trust, imo.
There are ways that JF and Chip can update and reach out to the shareholders. They just decide to do it all after the fact. This makes many people uncomfortable to hold for very long and equals more flippers. Comfort equals more longs, simple.
For example, his R/S talk was in 2004 ! He could easily say something again to ease some uncertaintly.
Absolutely a fact, Chip works from his HOUSE in Franklin, TN. JF works in Franklin, KY. (an hour or so apart).
Anybody research the CEO and President yet ? Past history.
Do you realize how far $ 200,000.00 goes in Frnaklin, KY. JF can nearly buy the entire town. He can live for years on it. Run a cost of living.
Question: With salaries near $ 200,000.00 and 15 % increase AUTOMATIC each year plus extras, what incentive do they really have towards stock price ? They can add more shares at any given time to their totals.
Equate it to the NFL. Players with incentive contracts must make big time plays or they are gone. The guaranteed money is not as common as many players did not have that fire under them. When it comes Automatically, why give the extra mile to act quickly ?
As long as GZFX remains afloat, the Gravy Train continues, imo.
** disclaimer, I own shares and am unbiased in reporting the truth. A message board is not controlling the price. GZFX and GG are responsible for that, imo.
Any idea on what the GnF Satellite Channel is costing ! JF will not tell us for good reason. But his ego loves having GnF Entertainment, race cars, e-tour golf, etc.
Sure, your philosophy makes sense ONLY if the focus was on servicing CC. But the other rabbit trails are spending a fortune. With only 6,000 subs last filing, the money needs to improve cost per sub count near term. Then get into racing, entertainment, e-golf, it will all still be avaliable.
There is a reason that we never get the details on cost for these ventures.
So if we spend the money ANYWAY, then why not for marketing and advertising like NFLX does.
Ask JF what GnF Entertainment is costing. He is gagged on this too. LOL.
None of it is ever JF or Chip's fault ?? You work for them ? If not, how can you be sure. They are the only people making money besides successful flippers.
They have little incentive to get the fire going.
You realize how far $ 200,000.00 per year salary plus incentives goes in Franklin, KY. Do a cost of living on it. JF will own the town soon. LOL Gravy Train.
And Chip works OUT OF HIS HOUSE in Franklin, TN only going to KY 1 time per week, maybe. Fact.
Just like the NFL, big time players make big time plays. When the contract is based on incentive and not guaranteed (JF & Chip 175 & 200k plus 15% raise each year) then they focus more on performance details. imo.
* disclaimer, I own shares (trade only) and will also present the unbiased truth about GZFX.
Lesnshawn, nice post ! I got golds e-mail TWICE within the past week and a half. Chalk it up as Spam. Why in the world would it go twice to the same address ? This is when complaints start to roll in. The company does not want to deal with spam complaints.
Lesnshawn did it the proper way, sending to people that know you and your e-mail address. Gold is slinging to random addresses. And the interesting part is that most of his list was taken from people that either own shares or subscribe(d) already.
Gold, explain how I got your e-mail TWICE within a week and a half to the same address ? And how am I on your target list ? You had to take me from the GZFX chat board, no other way. Overboard.
Some great points to consider here. GZFX could advertise and market. They chose VOD, race cars, e-tour golf (any updates??). How is this equating to subs ? They need to increase subs now. Each dollar spent should be well worth it.
** you cannot bash me for this post. 1 e-mail from Gold, ok? but 2 within a week and a half, that is Spam. Nice effort, Gold, but tone it down.
Agreed, GZFX should spend some money attracting new investors. At least cover the minimum exposure to the investing community.
Some would rather have the money spent on gaining exposure to news releases than a race car and e-tour golf.
A majority of OTC's I follow release news to cover the major brokerages. At least AmeriTrade, E-Trade, etc. It is not that expensive to cover the disount brokerages.
Ask yourselves how many potential traders and investors do not even know about GZFX.
It is just another avenue to look out for the shareholder that could help.
It really does not cost that much considering what GZFX spends on other ventures.
Not looking for a personal attack. We can all agree that the story could be sold much better. Just an idea.
Question: Why does GZFX not release PR's via all the major news wires.
For instance, I use AmeriTrade and they get everything thru Dow Jones. Others use Reuters, etc.
GZFX is the only OTC that I own that does not release to all of the brokerage houses.
Makes sense that GZFX get as much exposure as possible to at least the main trading companies. AmeriTrade, E-Trade, etc.
And updates from JF would help with the investor disconnect.
Kermit, this conversation will not go anywhere. It will begin with Cap and trail to eventual Reverse Splits. So let's end it. You will disagree no matter what, so no need to do this.
* This conversation is about Cap and not the poster. Let's keep it that way.
* I hold shares but am willing to discuss both sides of GZFX at any given moment if blanket statements are incorrect. Especially when numbers are in front of our eyes.
JPHC is trading 90% less than GZFX, but GZFX has more than 4 times !! the number of JPHC shares. Business revenue is not much different.
And they crushed people with a 1 for 1,000 and 1 for 2,000 split. Bad example. Any more ? All of these companies murdered shareholders with a Reverse Split.
I will let alot slide, but spinning market cap into a positive for GZFX is not one of them.
* if you do not reply, this conversation is over. We can agree that OTC's trade like the wild west and are not always predictable.
*** Show me 3 OTC's with an outrageous Cap, equivalent to GZFX, that has not burned shareholders with a Reverse Split or falling price.
But we also must agree that GZFX market cap is very high no matter what happens.
JPHC -- Jupiter Global Holdings Corp.
Com ($0.0001)
Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.
Address:
62 West 8th Avenue
4th Floor
Vancouver, BC V5Y 1M7
CANADA
Website: http://www.jupiterglobal.net
Phone: (604) 682-6541
Business Description: Not Available
State of Incorporation: NV
Officers:
Ray Hawkins, Pres. & CEO; Edwin Kwong, CFO, COO & Sec't.
Fiscal Year End: December 31
Edgar Filing Status: Current EDGAR Filer
CIK: 0001088199
Outstanding Shares: 856,372,406 as of 2005-06-30
Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Number of Shareholders of Record: 149 as of 2005-09-15
Current Capital Change:
shs decreased by 1 for 2000 split
Ex-Date:
Record Date:
Pay Date: 2004-11-09
Dividends:
Company Notes:
Formerly=RRUN Ventures Network, Inc. until 7-03
Formerly=Livestar Entertainment Group, Inc. until 2-05
Class Notes:
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1000 split. Effective date=9-2-04
Transfer Agent:
Jersey Transfer & Trust Co., Verona, NJ 07044
What are you talking about !!
"Anasta-It's out marketcap-It's just too LOW"
unknown_factor April 2006
Other companies actually have business revenue. They also do not have 4 billion outstanding shares.
** Please review successful company cap formulas prior to replying. This is not a bash, just dealing pure numbers. You mention Cramer. Cramer would cringe at GZFX numbers.
The Outrageous Market cap is a reason to sell GZFX, not buy it. Argue about alot of things, but market cap is not a positive for GZFX. I will not let this one slip thru because the facts are present to compute this.
Unknown_factor, talking about raising cap is worse than a bash LOL. You realize what you are truly saying ?
I could understand if GZFX was a pharma or biotech company. They have the chance for a phase 3 approval and giant spike. The GZFX model is known and the cap is not a shareholder friend.
Ending dialogue on the market cap now. Seriously, please review how this all works utilizing equivalent stock examples.
Good idea junkmasterg. Remember, it more than doubled quickly the last time we agreed on an entry !!
We just need some news now. Waited patiently for this entry point after the run near the .005's.
The CEO will not let it fall much below .003. Perhaps we get some news on completion of the LOI's.
McMillan says no R/S at this time. I will trade it for another news pop.
unknown_factor, GZFX market cap is why many stay away. It is extremely high. And it keeps rising even though business income does not correlate to the rise.
You must factor:
- GZFX cash is mainly from selling shares and not the business plan (read last filing).
- GZFX had 6,000 subs last filing and Netflix 4 million
- NFLX 55 million shares versus 4 BILLION (Huge difference is diluting shares versus making it with the business plan)
* exactly why I will only trade GZFX, market cap is way too high
Talk about alot of things, but market cap only turns people away from GZFX.
Nice when each tiny tick up is 1 % or more gain.
Nice 35 % return so far in a week, entering in the 30 cent range. It should rise as earnings get closer. For now, I will trade it.
Agree legal, nice entry ahead of the Q. Perhaps we can get some news ahead of the Q, hint, hint. LOL.
Always about timing and keeping current when trading a speculative stock.
People already know what to expect, subs under 10,000, Outstanding can only go as high as Authorized Shares at the time, so in the 3-4 billion range. JF filed the new A/S's after the Quarter. Not great, but it is what it is for now. We will have to wait a whole quarter to see what the damage is.
Maybe the rollout can get some Press. Or will JF miss this opportunity to help the stock price too ?
* no need to rush to the scene and reply unless it pertains to GZFX.
OT: Frankie, great post. You get it.
People stick up for GZFX management to the death, even though they (JF and Chip) make all the money. This comes to mind. LOL
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For the band, see Stockholm Syndrome (band).
The four hostages in the Kreditbanken robbery sympathized with their captor (right)The Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in a hostage, in which the hostage exhibits seeming loyalty to the hostage-taker (GZFX), in spite of the danger (or at least risk) the hostage has been put in. Stockholm syndrome is also sometimes discussed in reference to other situations with similar tensions, such as battered woman syndrome, child abuse cases, and bride kidnapping.
And nobody ever questions why GZFX VOLUNTARY CLAUSE allows Golden Gate to Short Sell GZFX. No need to allow this. Berlin can already do so.
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so if someone sells out for a while they have to leave.. lol
yer killing me... too bad you don't go after the GAG order with such zeal... I would like to see how much dumpage we have into the runs...
But that must be bashing. Lack of important information so we can make Informed decisions on this dog is a no no. Not just cautious investing... and then on another post we will have the finer points of MM manipulation? haaaaaa haaaaaa So where are the posts on PPS manipulation due to the management of information coming from the home office ... or lack there of?
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As stated, in for a trade only based on the recent updated information. All about charts and TIMING of news with a speculative company.
Information changes daily. Often times up to the minute.
GZFX alters plans on a dime. Have to remain sharp to make money here.
Maybe JF can pull off the timing this go around.
My posts pertain to trading the stock only. Any positive post pertains to the chart shaping up and/or the timing of news.
GZFX and GG control the price and destiny. GZFX allowing a clause for GG to short sell GZFX was a giant mistake, This allows for the manipulation that many blame on posters and Market Makers, imo.
Just told you tonight that I am in (gave reasons why) and in the same sentence said that the service is sub par (gave examples why).
Unbiased reporting. It is UP TO DATE. You must adjust to the cards that are dealt.
So I am a shareholder and pointing out company flaws. A rare breed. The price will rise and fall regardless of what is said on I-Hub.
According to the many PM's and e-mails, many appreciate the CURRENT analysis.
So what am I? I bought the stock and am complaining about the service. All in the same post this evening. LOL.
Anyone else comfortable enough to present both sides in this manner?
Susie, I do not whine. Matt does not know that Xan deletes many of my posts. He certainly would restore them if he knew. Those that read them know that TOU were not violated. Simply an unpopular opinion. Isn't this what we are trying to correct in Iraq? The media censored what the public could see. Public opinion has been controlled for years. Perhaps on a private board, but this board is public.