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One of the new rules for the IRS, is that if you sell a stock, you cannot buy it back within 30 days, or the trade will be considered a "null trade"...I forget the correct terminology, but its not considered a trade. I ran into a mess with last years taxes, with my quick trading and jumping in and out of the same stock within 30 days.
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not long after the blog.
They also did not have the benefit of Fraser's PiggyBAC, so their insertions were totally random,
Well Entogenetics gave KBLB the finger almost two years ago. I know this has been posted before, but for those who haven't seen Entogenetics blog...
http://entogenetics.wordpress.com/
I'm not sure when their website (http://www.entogenetics.com/) was last updated, but their blog hasn't been updated since Dec 23rd, 2010.
LQMT~ Luaghable comments on this board~ history repeats and this is going to be a confirmed bounce and RUN when we go GREEN today,imo
LQMT has a funny way of pulling back flushing everyone out then going higher. Word is LQMT has more deals to announce soon,should be back above .20 soon......rareF
The typical LQMT morning pull back after a run. Pull backs should be bought in LQMT, stock bottomed and has room back above .20 cents....rareF
Word is...word up! Load at .13!!! Not going back to .10 or .12
http://www.hotstocked.com/article/40862/liquidmetal-technologies-inc-pink-lqmt-surges.html
Noooooo! It couldn't possibly be just rumors! There were only a couple of rumors, and only a couple of people actually knew about them!
What a DAY. Huge volume...up 45%. Was it just the IPONE RUMORS?? Really?? Its happened before and some say, there is doubt it would happen again on "vague supposition". So is something else going on??? Is it just that the DOW went up 160 pts?? Has something leaked out?? And here we are headed to Thanksgiving. Tomorrow will tell the tail. APPLE also rebounded after falling over 20%.
Have a good sleep longs. May this continue to July.
Let me rephrase so it doesn't get reported by anyone who can't stand to hear anything negative...
Today's run-up was based on speculative rumors from 1 or 2 articles. Last June it ran up from 10 cents to 60 cents after hundreds of articles were published on the internet based on the same rumors. Do not look for the same size run-up this time unless hundreds of more speculative articles get published in the next couple of days.
Either way, look for the stock to crash equally as hard as the last time it ran up based on internet rumors alone. Good luck to anyone who bought based on this rumor, I hope you get to sell before the crash!
Speculation is fine, but don't cry after a stock cries wolf after it has done so 3-4 times in the exact same way over the past 2 years.
I'd like to see the expiration of the apple agreement, which would allow other CE companies to use LQMT. MSFT, RIM, Samsung, HTC, Sprint etc could all benefit from LQMT's patents.
196,962,069and 134,467,554 shares issued and outstanding at September 30, 2012and December 31, 2011, respectively
Also, they sold $12 million in shares this quarter. Even if they sold them at 20 cents, almost twice the current price, that's still 60 million new shares. I saw 191 Million outstanding shares before, so this round of dilution puts us at 251 million outstanding shares? The stock just got diluted by almost 25%. That makes today's 11.8 cent price tomorrows 8.6 cent price.
Personally I'd think Swatch in full production is good enough news to keep the stock from "tanking" tomorrow. I suppose we'll see.
Hmm...so these are "new" prototypes above the last ones we heard about??
And good cash position...but yet more dilution???
No royalties yet from Apple (nice to hear them mentioned)
My question is what is Apple getting out of the extension from LQMT?
They own the exclusive rights to use Liquidmetal in the CE space either way and it doesn't seem/sound/appear that LQMT is doing much R&D these days but the extension that Apple requested/entered into requires Apple to share the R&D it does with LQMT.
And remember, the APPLE agreement had a limit. I guess now its been extended two years I forget the specifics, but before the extension, the contract stated anything developed after the APPLE/LQMT agreement end date would not fall under the exclusivity part even for CE. Another contract would have to be signed for those "discoveries". I'm not sure now if the two year extension also extends that part of the contract...that discoveries for an addition two years will be APPLES exclusively. That is my understanding. Remember some were confused on that issue. They thought APPLE owned all CE in perpetuity.....they only own what is developed under the timelimited contract. And I think we are still in the dark about what is involved with the next two years....if royalties are involved or is it just the extension of the same agreement.
Bottomline you are misinterpreting what Red said. The company gets more valuable with each development. That is a true statement in and of itself. You are gauging value by share price. Value increases can also be judged by market capitalization and by developments themselves. Some people get tired of the truth, but that takes nothing away from the truth. It is a better time to buy than we have seen for quite a while. You have to look at CEO history to determine which ones to apply the 6 month rule, but generally it is a rule of thumb. Few actually under promise. (I don't mean promise literally, but as used in the phrase under promise over deliver) So value may or may not be reflected in the price of a stock....and Warren Buffet will tell you the same thing. It is basic stuff and certainly should not be synonymously mischaracterized/linked with share price.
$1 Million/yr. is not that grandiose an income for someone in Kim's position. He probably made more than that a year while working as a lawyer.
Just so you know what my idea is for the home run for this company: it is not the stock price but when the air of doubt and speculation is lifted by the completion of the platform technology, creation of pure spider silk and any commercialization deal. In the end, the stock price will take care of itself.
With every new development this company becomes increasingly more valuable ... a huge percentage of that added value should be developed this year, imo.
MU and ES1
I'm not sure where you two think I said anything about selling to CSC or anything about whether or not I thought that Kim selling any shares at all was right or wrong. I simply commented on others' posts about how "Kim just needs to make a living like all of us do" when his salary is over 10 times what most people's here is.
I'm sure we will hear something in the next few weeks
I think you are also forgetting that Kim has forgiven pay.
Kim T. receives most if not all of his salary in the form of KBLB stock. (remember that the company is not generating any cash yet). It has been his common practice for at least a couple of years now to periodically sell some stock for cash to live on.
This is not a picture of a CEO cashing out of his company, but rather a picture of a man freeing up some money to pay the mortgage, utility bills etc. and perhaps to buy a new car for his wife or a nice piece of jewelry.
That brings up the next point. Is that one position yet unfilled? Or do they want a bunch of these guys.
Note that this is from almost a year ago! HELLO, anybody home? This was posted on Aug 22, 2011.
After that horrible lame CC, and the stock recovering from the "panic sell off"...this has now established a bottom and is in the beginning of a very LONG TERM UPTREND. So says my proprietary technical analysis. There will be more news soon, IMO. Very, very good news. Then these rock bottom prices will be gone for good. Looks like NOW is the TIME for LQMT...after so long a wait!!! Look at it go!
Redfisher, thank you for reposting my posts so he would see them, but he isn't going to reply to them. He knows exactly who posted them since my name is the very first word on each on. And it's not like it's a common, or easily missed name. He either won't reply to them at all, or it'll take a while until he can find some way to turn around his previous words so that they didn't mean what they meant before.
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2. The CEO did mention in the CC that while they are not responsible for supplying parts, the CEO did say that they would receive royalties from any use of their IP. So, the Apple story could very well still be alive. That is what I would like to believe.
Watts wrote
The way I see it, the 250000 in Dec was presequel to 200000 in January, say the last two weeks of December and the first two weeks in February.
NOTHING has been shipped since then. When Steipp said on March 6, we are in the midst, what that meant in plain English is:
1 we shipped all of the prototypes to 4 customers. 1 customer responded by saying your products SUCK
"In the midst" means and meant that LQMT is waiting to hear back from the other 3 customers. NO COMMERCIAL PURCHASE ORDERS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
I can't help but shake my head about VPC - we all know Barney had the large acquisition in LQMT. This guy must be laying some serious coin out. And I think a private placement with Visser is in the offing. What the heck is he thinking? What is his motivation here?
rqtect said
IMO the whole conference call was to throw everyone off the apple trail. Strangest Conference call I have ever heard in my long life and I have heard some very strange ones. Look what we are doing over here in aerospace and medical field...Who cares, really.., Or his comment We are Not concentrating on CE. Right sure you’re not.., Apple is doing that for you. The contract with Apple is not just a one shot 20 million pay day. They could have just sold them the patients and all rights and walked away for 200 million. No they are working very close to each other. Just MOFO.
ccwag wrote
VPC unfortunately does not have its web site up..Got to be a reason for this.A good reason
Watts, do you still hold a significant long position in LQMT? I can't blame you if you sold as the risk leading up to earnings was enormous, but if you're out, then i'm out, since most of my DD was based on your interpretations.
everyone knew they were prototypes....its been discussed numorous times....the point is ,this first quarter was to garner new accounts with new product...thats what we were looking for today.its been known that REAL PROGRESS wasnt to be achieved till 3rd or 4th quarter.. are you surprised
I forgot that Watts put me on ignore a week or two ago, but has anyone else noticed that for the past week he has been telling people repeatedly to call management and ask them questions directly. People have asked numerous questions on this board and Watts continues to reply with, "Why don't you call management and report back to us with your findings." I've seen this many times over the past week. Maybe he's always been like that, but I just noticed it.
I'm wondering, is LQMT blocking calls from Watts now? He also insinuated today that he was banned from the conference call (or at least from asking questions). I'm wondering what he did to make that happen. If anyone has any answers, I'd be curious to know. I'm not going to lose sleep over it, but if one of their largest investors is annoying them to the point that they won't even talk to him, I'd be interested to know. More because of management's part in it than the investors. For instance, was he asking important questions that need to be answered, and they refused to answer it, so he kept asking?
On March 6 the CEO said:
President and CEO Tom Steipp commented, "We are very excited about the use of amorphous alloy technology to deliver stronger, lighter, and more corrosion resistant parts to our customers in varying industries globally. These initial shipments represent a significant milestone in our efforts to provide a new class of materials for our customers to consider when designing complex parts."
1. LQMT needs either another bridge loan, or the Visser private placement to happen within the next two weeks. They need monthly operating cash, can't dilute before the June ASM. No alternative.
2. LQMT needs to make good on several million dollars of notes due to SAGA in October. Revenues will not be enough. So either the placement, if it happens, addresses that, or something gets restructured with SAGA. No alternative.
3. Revenue from Apple is being very, very downplayed. Direct AAPL-->LQMT revenue from Apple's potential usage was never expected (by me). However Steipp seemed to downplay the idea that Apple's adoption of Luquidmetal would in any way benefit LQMT, not even by using LQMT Certified Partners (which they may not do anyway). I still feel that Apple using the technology will help LQMT by proxy, as a validation and advertisement, but Steipp seemed clear that there was no direct revenue relationship.
4. Partners are not being shipped parts for production, but parts for evaluation. This was not clear to me before. I may have missed it. Steipp also commented that there was at least one shipment of evaluation parts that was deemed not production ready and/or not satisfactory by a prospective partner.
5. Despite commenting that many were on the CC only four questions were taken by Steipp. I don't know if nobody else wanted to ask, but it ended fast.
As I add these up, I am left with a bad taste. Poker analogy: I've been trying to put LQMT on a hand for a while. This is the first time I got the sense that I might have a bad read. If nothing else, I'm debating the next step.
Right so what we're saying here is that AAPL can afford to let LMT to simply die and feel no ill effects?
The IP brain trust must be maintained and kept through the life cycle of the product in case there's manufacturing issues. It's likely AAPL will want to further develop this as the key material in future products.
So it's possible LMT is a used Kleenex?
I ask all of you who hold on to your shares to VOTE DOWN THE ADDITIONAL SHARE REQUEST. It's not needed now. Additionally, I will be voting NO to the election of R. A. Salas to another term on the board.
So Crucible will produce the needed parts? I think the Crucible idea is being made out to be more than it is. It's simply a trust fund for licensure. AAPL still needs the parts made reliably and quickly for the iPhone. AAPL can't afford to see that path be rerouted after two years of procurement research. If they truly need more funding there will be a long line of investors waiting to hand them a loan.
Anyone who thinks Apple will let this fall apart before the debut of iphone5 is ludicrous.
The funding will be there guaranteed, Apple has top much invested now.
250k in revenues at this time will not cut it
not liking what i am seeing. .25 million in revenues