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CRTG.. A good question! Wait a minute? Do I hear someone knocking at the CORETEC FLOP, (not group,) door! Somehow, they are able to talk their way into more loan money and paid their mortgages and debts, but who, aside from a rich Grandpa and Insider, would give them another dime, as the NDSU debacle showed who they really are?
I know that the Boys went in over their heads by somehow getting a License to commercialize the great CHS stuff from NDSU, but with a lack of a constant supply of funds coming in, how are they to satisfy the needs of large Manufacturers who want CRTG to pay for their own development costs and not depend on Partners to share in the costs?
Let's see what the Boys have up their sleeves now, as this seems to be "LAST GASP" time where they have to put up or shut up!!!
In the Penny Field, there are many suckers, me near top of the list, and the Boys know that, so they "PITCH AWAY," until more suckers arrive! With a product like CHS, the Boys had an advantage as most EV manufacturers, and others, drool to think they might have an advantage over the others, and take a chance? Is this like the Uranium hype of the past, where the hype vastly overpowered everyone's common sense? My mom fell for it with 200 bucks of her hard earned money into some Company that never reached step one on the stepladder? Real good PROFESSIONAL Talkers, but nothing professional when it comes to Business? IMO only..
GERS.. Who cares? If you value it so much, buy some Cannabis stock! That has no commercial value to GERS at all!!
Walrus.. Remember those who said things were great right after the Contract annulment with NDSU, or things were great when Krafty was making "Headway" with potential manufacturers, who all stiffed him for not holding a patent to the CHS product they were working on, or now with no real product yet legalized, yet they are saying how great things are!
Yes, Great for KRAFTY, who got a sizable increase in "Salary" for working just one extra day a month, and no visible success in the future, yet the Board wanted him so badly that he was awarded money for nothing done! And believe me, if this Co' goes under, KRAFTY will somehow get his share from the board? But he may have to show his honest intentions by adding one more day to his Monthly work period, which might be 9 days a Month instead of the 8 he now has! LOL... Just another P-Stock flunky who overestimated his true worth to the gullible Board members?? IMO only...
Pegs... What is totally absurd is the Fact that The Leader and Guru Mr. Kraft is now going to devote a FULL 8 Days to the development of the New CHS product! Hey, he really is doing us a favor by upping his devotion from 7 days to 8 days? What kind of "Crock" is that? Maybe he has arranged things in such a way that they won't need him for a majority of the Months ahead, I don't know, but this next year is a CRITICAL one in the life of crtg, so someone with a "24 hours a day" mentality had better step up and work as long as he has to, to further the development of the New product?
The Boys have upped-up the word impossible to a new word level IMO, as the bad taste of the agreement failure with NDSU and the many failed talks with potential Manufacturing products, is still ringing in our Ears! Now, they have another almost impossible task in out-teching the previous CHS Patent(s).... and in one years time?
I admire their determination, but is it based on a positive reality or is it just their unwillingness to face the obvious reality and that is Company dissolutionment? We don't know what is going on now for sure, as failures are never Publicized, but obviously they are striving ahead on ALL FRONTS I am sure, but will other detrimental forces back them up as it did a couple of years ago?
Maybe pressure like that will spur them onto success? I really hope so, as bleakness is a normal condition of sub Penny Stocks, and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes where failure upon failure has already shown that success is a long way off for the Crew at Crtg? The Penny-Stock condition is not a healthy one, as only the desperate, and pocketbook Broke people enter the P-Field!
Most just have a Schoolboy approach to getting involved here, and because most lack experience, they feel they can do anything if given the chance? Most have probably had bad luck in the Industrial world, and have taken-up residency here? In fact, the smarty pants's must have a exit strategy because that is usually the case in the Penny area!! So the Boys might have to throw the Key away from the back door, just in case they have to make a hasty retreat out into the COLD once more?
Good Luck Guys, but please do not play around with investors who tend to have sacrificed much money and tears over the years, and who were led into a situation the Company officials did not seriously understand, and just threw positive words out there Like the Drunken Sailor on leave with a few bucks in his pocket and lost it all in no time at all!!
An opportunity like this comes around rarely, but Good managers will make it, and Bad managers will break it!! With the dismal record Crtg has in managing thus far, Talks with lenders and potential partners might lead to just another failure?
Where is the bright side? Maybe the Boys have a winner in their idea to produce a better CHS-type product? Maybe the Board will look at the results so far, and come to the conclusion that another, better suited CEO when it comes to action, will be found to bring investors out of the hole crtg is in? We do not need another talker who relies on Potential Investors to spend their money on this project, but a genuine Developer who will work more than 8 days a MONTH? In fact, crtg may have seen the most Investor money years ago, and will only see a trickle of Investor money now and then in the future!
Talk alone is not enough, and I believe the boys in the office realize that now, and will focus more on actual deeds, not on promises? It may happen, but what are the odds? Then why has Krafty split his time around to different Penny Stocks? Maybe it is just designed for his survival and not ours? IMO only......
sdvi.. Come on now? With STEM CELLS and GENE SPLICING abilities making advanced Medical cures possible, the CBD products will eventually be led to the graveyard! The Nano guys are obviously making some money now, but for how long?
[b]Sdvi.. If I saw any movement in commercializing out their High Tech Products, or new patented products in the high tech field, I would buy more shares in a heartbeat, Plenty more!
The Boys have something going for them IMO, and while it will be a rough ride, they have to push forward all the time, not rely on a Nano-101 emphasis, which seems to have taken over their minds! If some of that Nano money is going to fund its High Tech subsidiaries, then I am all right with that! IMO
Gers Posters now realize, that for the most part, GERS made mistakes at the very least, and Hired Attorneys who couldn't recognize the overwhelming experience of the Judge and judges? They treated the Judges, especially in the lower Court, as if they were the Students and Our Attorneys were the masters of the Courtroom!
Now, Our guys simply went by what our facts showed, and couldn't, understandably, delve into the secret goings-on by the Defendants! Even mistakes made by KK & the Attorneys cannot be admissible as reasons, as mistakes can be AS DAMAGING to the Business of the Defendants as being found "Guilty as charged!" Mistakes cannot be used as reasons to win a case! They can be as harmful as anything else? Judges see reasons of "Mistakes, If we used some in the case, as the complete inexperience, or ignorance of the Attorneys, making anything else they say as being the same old story, and want the guys to get lost and go back to school?
But by and Large, the Defendants are probably getting the majority of compassion and "Consideration" than what we obtained? In fact, the Defendants might be given exceptional latitudes while we have TO BE PERFECT under the law? Thousands of cases have come before the Courts, and one unfortunate error by GERS, and we are lost? In fact, it might be relatively easy for the Defendants to say "We were led into this" or "They made us to believe that," especially when the Charging Co' like Gers was a relatively new firm anxious to make some kind of deal, and maybe did not consult the right Attorneys when arranging that deal? No excuses gers!!! IMO..
Inexperience may have lost our case, and unless a complete turnaround occurs, the same result will happen no matter how many appeal options we decide to utilize? IMO...
sdvi... The boys are still drawing-in money from Nano-101's CBD sales, so maybe that is as far as it will go? Money in the Boys' pockets and nothing in ours!! I haven't seen any 10k's or 10q's in quite a while, so maybe that is a sign of Co' dissolution, I don't know?
I continue to feel that a couple of our products have potential if they are seriously brought to Market by people who know what they are doing, but money is the main consideration there?
sdvi... The boys are still drawing-in money from Nano-101's CBD sales, so maybe that is as far as it will go? Money in the Boys' pockets and nothing in ours!! I haven't seen any 10k's or 10q's in quite a while, so maybe that is a sign of Co' dissolution, I don't know?
I continue to feel that a couple of our products have potential if they are seriously brought to Market by people who know what they are doing, but money is the main consideration there?
Pegs1. About the PROVISIONAL PATENT!
1) THE P-"PATENT" just requires a specification, i.e. a description & drawings of the product!
2) KEY points...the P-Patent does not require formal Patent claims, not Inventors' oaths or declarations, any IDS (Information Disclosure Statement) or
3) Very importantly, "there is NO EXAMINATION of the Patentability of the Application In view of the prior art, is performed!" This means a whole lot of further work has to be done in order to obtain a Patent Application, which is where the stringent rules come into play! The Boys will have to prove that their product is "Above" the prior art in uniqueness!
WIKIPEDIA and others!! In fact, the final statement issued by Wikipedia is: "There is no such thing as a PROVISIONAL PATENT!!!
Anybody with a good idea and $199.00 bucks can be awarded a P-Patent if he or she complies with the simple requirements outlined above!!
I truly hope the Boys have the expertise within their system to further along their Idea(s)!!
crtg. Thay already made it plain and simple as to the way they were going to handle the ' Q's"? Remember them saying; "You have to present your Questions on such and such a date, before the conference call!" They will make sure the Q's selected will be those they choose to answer, not the HARD Q's many want to ask!
But to those who get chosen, be like those reporters who attend the Presidential news Conferences? Be persistent until you get the answer that satisfies your mind!!! If they give just (1,) one bit of really useful and practical fact relating to Patents or Commercialization, I will be surprised! They something cooking under their Baseball Caps, and I hope it covers all the areas of concern, and not just be more propaganda talk?
sdvi... Azzam & the others have given-up! That's a fine thank you after all the money we Invested and the time spent hoping you guys would know what to do! We just cannot Invest money into Ceo's and people who don't have the GUTS to push forward with enough energy to sell very good products ready to hit the public?
The guys were asking us for Money to get a BETA testing program started, then more money for this and then more money for that! We gave you the Starter Money, now borrow from Grandpa, or go through what every Company goes through, Borrow from lenders! Don't blame anything on us Boys, we did our best, but we just don't have enough confidence in your Business abilities to throw more money away!
If the guys would only show us some Business acumen by pushing the products into the Public Mix, we would have more confidence!
NOW WHERE IS THAT NANO-101 MONEY GOING? If some of that money is going into your pockets, why aren't we getting our fair share? Come on hand over some cash boys?
That Nano deal was a crazy one to be sure! Did you have to sacrifice everything all of us did just to get in on a failing product genre! You Guys want it the easy way!! Sacrificing the KNOTON and MORPHEUS GROUP just to buy into Nano-101 is illicit in my view! We want a resurgence of the TECH products first, not the last thing on your minds? The Cr-- CBD stuff is too expensive, the other competing Co's have much better management, it is doubtful any major product improvement will arrive, then be successful enough to become one of the top Five Companies or so!
You guys DO NOT want to become Millionaires, and to get in this penny field, you had better think that way! No competitive juices, nothing! Just lay back and spend our NANO money whichever way you choose, and forget we even exist! Then you guys had the nerve to directly ask us for more money, what a group of managers we got ourselves into Investors!!!
Yes Pegs, BUT in Business, there is no such thing as a binding oral agreement when it comes to partnerships between Companies? No Co' is going to depend on promises when they have to set-up new systems to manufacture this "GHOST" product, and have to depend upon serious Co's Laying Down/Signing the "Agreed upon" stipulations on Paper! No slippery Sam kind of dealings will do?
I know they are having problems at the crtg office, as every Co' has, but it is especially apparent in tiny sub Penny stocks! To me, it is too overwhelming of a task for Basically "Marketeers" to handle all the relevant things in developing a long term Business! They are basically Salespeople who think they can sell anything, even the shareholders?
Yes Pegs, BUT in Business, there is no such thing as a binding oral agreement when it comes to partnerships between Companies? No Co' is going to depend on promises when they have to set-up new systems to manufacture this "GHOST" product, and have to depend upon serious Co's Laying Down/Signing the "Agreed upon" stipulations on Paper! No slippery Sam kind of dealings will do?
I know they are having problems at the crtg office as every Co' has, but it is especially apparent in tiny sub Penny stocks! To me, it is too overwhelming of a task for Basically "Marketeers" to handle all the relevant things in developing a long term Business! They are basically Salespeople who think they can sell anything, even the shareholders?
sdvi. This is IMO only. Since Money is always scarce in the PENNY FIELD, I have a hunch that NANO money is going into the pockets of AZZAM and the others, instead of being re-invested into our products and commercialization?
Now everybody needs money for sure, but the Boys must think of shareholders first! That seems not to have been the case here, which aroused my suspicions! Now salaries and Ceo Bonuses must be filed along with everything else, it would be interesting to see how much the guys are putting in their pockets, while we are starving?
sdvi.. To Azzam and the Boys. Since we are owners too, why are you avoiding us or treating us like enemies? We feel we are getting no respect whatsoever! Please keep working in our behalf and notify us regularly! Remember, we are the guys that got you started with the funds you needed, so now it is your turn to start paying us back!!!
If you guys aren't up to the task, then please find someone who has guts and aggressiveness to take over the managerial rolls?
crtg. Talks are closing doesn't make a done deal, talking about developing a product doesn't mean a salable product is now available! In fact none of these PR's should be posted when it comes to the Investor, only the final completion or decision, good or bad!
For Pegs sake, I hope this Company works out! With what has gone on in the last 2+ years, I find it hard to Invest in them again?
crtg... I guess that with a Provisional Patent App', some things can be accomplished, but please give us the document number, as you guys have played "Tag" with us too long!
Pegs... May mean a possible "Partnership deal," just more talk! Why don't they announce something once it is finalized? Just to keep us tuned in and accept more revenue, that's all?
crtg. "Commercialization of CORETEC'S CHS range of products!" Not the exact wording but "Coretec's CHS products?" means that they own something legally! Only Patents will matter IMO!!
I wonder if they will filter-out Q's they cannot answer such as a patent Application, not a provisional patent, which is just a forerunner of the most important things like a Patent Application or a Patent itself! It seems legal enough, but I don't know how legal it is, and whether other Co's can override something that has no meaning whatsoever? It is just a document, but not all documents are relevant!
I hope the Investors will get some Prime Beef for a change and not old Lunchmeat?
Why are they lining-up those new employees when the Prov' Patent gives CRTG one year before they can up the tempo by applying for a Legitimate Application, meaning that all that talk of a Chemical Supplier and Commercialization can't be talked about seriously until a Valid P-Application is OK'd by the USPTO! It seems that the Boys need that 1+ year to develop a suitable product or they would have jumped in and applied for a Patent through a conventional Application?
They have some money to spend obviously, but I would like to see that money applied to developing a Legally acceptable CHS+ product!
They use the word "DEVELOPING" again, but intimated that it may be toward developing Business partnerships that are way down the line somewhat... at least one year before real work on Commercialization can proceed, that is if they can leap over that monumental hurdle of patentability is accomplished, and that is Patent a CHS that is a unique product that can stand-up to the tough standards of the USPTO?
Pegs. Talk can mean Krafty is calling these people back just to say Hello, we don't know? Krafty is making calls, grant him that? But are they substantial where both parties are very interested? We can never know what the Guys are doing, as anything they say will benefit them, not you necessarily? IMO..
crtg. In the Penny World Big talk and fraudulent talk goes on all the time! What has the CEO's of those co's have to lose, nothing? Since most Co's are backed-up to the Exit door from day one, they might not give a dam- anymore? Remember, the other products haven't gotten anywhere, so what is there to look forward to?
Let the SEC sanction us, so what? Let them fine us, (but they have to catch us first,) Let them stop the trading, big deal? We will continue lying to the final day, as that is our only chance to lure-in more suckers? Not saying that scenario is present with Krafty and the Boys, but it is in the Penny World of stupid Investors, where most of the "Ceo's" LOL, know the gullibility of those who think they are going to GET RICH, and how they are influenced by words that mean nothing at all! A lot of that stuff going on everywhere here, as very few people visit the Co's listed low on the Pink sheets, and the Ceo's have to arouse interest if nothing else!!
sdvi... Maybe the deal with Nano-101 demanded that Azzam and the Boys were to manage the New acquired company, LOL? It seems that all they can manage is the money coming in, nothing else! Not bad Guys, but managers please, that has to be the biggest joke in the Penny World?? This was not a good deal for either of the Companies IMO?
sdvi We need a whole new team of ADMINISTERS. The CEO has to go, Azzam must be locked-up in some Laboratory & not allowed in the Office at any time?
Those Guys thought that building a really good set of Products would be enough, but it isn't! Hire a Guy like JOE ABRAMS of MySpace to do the managing! He will take shares of the Co' if he sees it has potential?
When the Boys acquired Nano-101, that signaled the end, or near end, right then and there? I just don't understand why a Company, no matter who it is, would literally give away a money making Company?
When money loaners see a Management Team led by Azzam (In his researching attire,) at the time, they just laughed! How could SDVI obtain a loan when Azzam couldn't answer a few Questions pertaining to commercialization! People want a well run and thoughtful management team, and unfortunately Azzam wasn't prepared to go beyond his Science credentials? The new Guy is still making Phone calls to his professors at School to get the answers, and seems to be useless too! A NEW MANAGEMENT TEAM with courage, and a desire to make it big, are what is needed, that is aside with some experience? GL
Gers You should read my post thoroughly? If you have been here as long as I have, you would see what I am talking about! Many people followed the Research being done on the case, which was faulty, that's all I said! If you want to debate me on it, just give me a private message and I will respond!
Somehow, you thought it was you I was talking about, WRONG! You were one of those who watched and never said much about what everyone was doing on both sides of the cases, so I had to speak-up unfortunately! I spoke-up too late, but my message was clear! No one can research something he or she cannot see first hand, and what they did see was muddled-up by "Hidden" dialogue & argument over the years, so those who thought they were so superior, were not that superior after all? I hope people had enough sense to understand what I was talking about?
gers. but those who believed they were pundits, seemed to always tout GERS, and did not recognize the facts coming from the other side! They were so sure of themselves, yet they failed in the end!
I understand the Positive fervor when it came to GERS, but never believe that what they do is the LAST WORD, for it isn't, yet many followed like sheep instead of questioning everything? I began to question things too late myself! But who would question people who worked so hard to obtain the facts, as I believed in them myself! My own fault yes, but in the future, please do not present "FACTS" until all sides are represented?
Do the "PUNDITS" realize how all their "VALUABLE" research had an impact on all of us, who just do not feel that we can ever research enough to make such an absolute decision on the matter!
After the Lower court decision, we should have learned something, but we didn't as all our research told us that we had all the right answers, and that the JUDGE was all wrong?
Good Luck!
GERS. The results handed down seemed so absolute and strong, it seems nothing will dislodge them?
The problem all along was that we didn't know what ICM and the others had under their sleeves, so all the positives Gers people presented were just a waste of our time!
Now, there still is hope in a couple of objectionable areas, so stay tuned!!
crtg. Yes, it is good talk for sure, but will any of it come to fruition? The biggest expression in that message is talk and continued conversations?
But who is doing the "CALLING?" Is it Coretec? If it is, that could just be another ploy to make Investors believe that CRTG has something important going on, but who knows for sure?
gers. You can smoke to that mister, but I wouldn't even look at a weed! Gers partnering with White whomever, who cares??
Why is somebody mentioning WHITE BUFFALO, which against IHUB rules? This is the GERS board, no one else's! Get with it moderators, stop noises coming from another stock?
crtg. If the Boys have a legitimate Product to Patent, why obtain a non-public provisional Patent for one year, and go right in and apply for a Patent? Now they have ONE MORE YEAR to stop the Investor clamor for positive info!
I just hope the Patent comes soon as competitors are knocking at the door!
So Far, they are still talking and nothing definitive has yet been established! This "Non-Public" thing just gives the Boys one more year to arrive at the product they are dreaming about! But why if they have a product on hand as they suggest all the time? One more year and then another PATENT filing, hopefully that is, which will take time in itself!!!
Yes, they are discussing things all the time, and I hope it all works out, but talking does not mean SUCCESS, it means that the Boys are steadily trying to manipulate things their way, and to hold onto whatever Investors they have left!
Those Guys are good at putting words together, and they are successful at placating Investor's Questions!
Let's see what happens in One to Two years, for applying for a patent means nothing if CRTG has nothing new to offer! IMO...
sdvi. High Tech products are always in demand, but my Latest Q is: "Are the Knoton and Morpheus brand of Products our property, and can be patented by sdvi?" Or, but this is probably stretching it, are we under license to Commercialize it, but nothing else?
Another Q, with problems being so aplenty in the Penny area, have the Boys become too enamored with the latest Craze, the CBD stuff? Making a buck seems to be their major concern, understandable, but does Nano-101 have enough to bring us to the Promised land?
There are many 100 pain relievers out there, where many believe the Cannabis/Hemp type is too exotic, and will stay with the conventional methods instead of the CBD, which does have a tiny amount of THC in it, maybe .04% or .4%?, which is a Drug of getting "High?"
Now, since a few CBD Co's have a corner on the market, have we come in too late? It is also very expensive!!! While Nano-101 has some revenue coming in, does that make our Ceo satisfied with the results, or will he push our Tech products hard enough to make them successful? Yes, money is required, but where is that money going?
Pegs... A couple of factors! Yes, Mr. Kraft worked his can off during the agreement with NDSU, but he and CRTG had something then, and that was that CRTG was given full power to commercialize the product through NDSU's Patents!! Yes, he is good at Inter-personal communication I am sure, maybe even gifted because he was virtually broke and could not satisfy the "Customer's" needs! Does anyone think that the Customer would test the product for CRTG?
Yes, that agreement had potential, if only Kraft would have known all that was involved? Why didn't that 2 Million or so be directed at what was necessary at the time of that agreement, as the same guy was somewhere seated in CRTG's organization at that time! That was CRTG's best opportunity and they blew it? That CHS stuff "IS STILL" as good as anything now on the market, that's how good it is!
In my mind, Kraft and the boys at crtg are having trouble developing a better product, so even a provisional Patent is questionable, as Kraft would be Knocking on old Prospective Partners to re-establish a Business relationship again by this time? But nothing is being done, so they have nothing to show YET? If that money was forwarded 2 or so years ago, we had a good chance of paying the necessary costs, and maybe even had a chance of Buying out the Patent Owner's Shares/Patents too!
I hope the Guys are forthright during that conference call, and maybe a breakthrough is in the offing, who knows? But I cannot again listen to CEOs and CRTG people making promises upon promises without one document to prove their assertions, as desperation is usually a part of the game in the Penny Stock field! Everyone knows what desperation can do to a person's mind, often either delaying the time table again, or making outright misleading statements to say the least! CRTG is a long standing "Business" and the Guys DO NOT want to dissolve it, as I wouldn't want to either! I truly want to get back in, but they have to start respecting us more by telling the truth as hard as it may be to do?? IMO only.
Pegs... A couple of factors! Yes, Mr. Kraft worked his can off during the agreement with NDSU, but he and CRTG had something then, and that was that CRTG was given full power to commercialize the product through NDSU's Patents!! Yes, he is good at Inter-personal communication I am sure, maybe even gifted because he was virtually broke and could not satisfy the "Customer's" needs! Does anyone think that the Customer would test the product for CRTG?
Yes, that agreement had potential, if only Kraft would have known all that was involved? Why didn't that 2 Million or so be directed at what was necessary at the time of that agreement, as the same guy was somewhere seated in CRTG's organization at that time! That was CRTG's best opportunity and they blew it? That CHS stuff "IS STILL" as good as anything now on the market, that's how good it is!
In my mind, Kraft and the boys at crtg are having trouble developing a better product, so even a provisional Patent is questionable, as Kraft would be Knocking on old Prospective Partners to re-establish a Business relationship again by this time? But nothing is being done, so they have nothing to show YET? If that money was forwarded 2 or so years ago, we had a good chance of paying the necessary costs, and maybe even had a chance of Buying out the Patent Owner's Shares/Patents too!
I hope the Guys are forthright during that conference call, and maybe a breakthrough is in the offing, who knows? But I cannot again listen to CEOs and CRTG people making promises upon promises without one document to prove their assertions, as desperation is usually a part of the game in the Penny Stock field! Everyone knows what desperation can do to a person's mind, often either delaying the time table again, or making outright misleading statements to say the least! CRTG is a long standing "Business" and the Guys DO NOT want to dissolve it, as I wouldn't want to either! I truly want to get back in, but they have to start respecting us more by telling the truth as hard as it may be to do?? IMO only.
Pegs... I cannot remember the contexts, but I did mention a concern or two, along with suggestions how the Co' can improve! I just thought that they were the ones who were completely involved though, and had better solutions than I had, so I stopped those foolish emails!
Though Kraft probably had, (Not confirmed though to me,) a pretty good record prior to taking over the reins of CRTG, but sometimes the "fit" between the Co' CEO and the tasks involved, may not mesh well? One Guy may do one thing well, while another may have other skills?
With all the logistical, financial, and product problems, the job might be over the heads of many prospective CEO's, Kraft included! But sometimes it isn't the CEO's fault entirely, but the negative forces that weigh in upon a small Co' like CRTG? IMO only...
crtg. You may be right Pegs, but why no further info on those moves? Introduce us to your new Business director of yours, tell us where that loan money is going, (partially to the new person,) and please tell us the "Number" of that provisional Patent? The guys seem to be beating around the bush as to proof some of their recent moves!? Ok the loaner is well known, but the meat of the Patent will never be known, even though it is documented somewhere, but unfindable to those who tried to research it?
There just has been too many falsehoods over the past couple of years to believe in everything they say! When I see more concrete news as to the Patent and/or product supposedly having been built, then I would gladly change my vote to yes!
I understand that the Boys are busy, and are shorthanded much of the time, but to divulge as much as they can would surely help their cause, as more people would see the value of the Co' rather than listen to all the hype! As I see it, we don't mean much to the Boys in the office, as their silence is maddening to those that paid BUCKS to get involved, yet no word after all the time elapsed? I am usually an optimist, but pessimism has to be expressed at this time?? IMO...
crtg. TYhe Non Disclosure Clause generally has to do with vital Information about SENSITIVE Business or product info! But who is asking for that? All we want to know is what Co's Crtg is dealing with, or has agreements with Co's do do whatever they want to do? No sensitive info is wanted, only our partnership contacts!
Just another smokescreen to fool investors into staying the course, and maybe add more money to the Till? [/b]
Pegs At least crtg should have the "Model" of the CHS product, which would be qualified to obtain a Patent App'? What I am thinking at this moment is that they don't want Investors to know how far back they are in the way of devising the new CHS+?
They surely would loudly declare "PATENT APP'" if they had a viable CHS+ product! My hope is that the Research & Development CO' or the U. of Michigan involvement would be announced to the Investors, but cannot simply because the Public and we Idiots would know that the product development is still in its infancy, or hasn't started yet? They certainly talked a lot about the new CHS+ product and how it was in their hands and securely one of their products when the NDSU agreement fell through, and that was over 2 years ago, they would have it boldly written on the very FRONT of their HOME PAGE, and have a LINEUP of interested Co's pounding at their doors as well?
If they had a workable Formula then, they should be farther along now? Also, that silence for 2+ years could mean that they are being fraught with failures, and a Patent is not that easy to procure! Just because Krafty said that they "Own" a new CHS+ product, doesn't mean that the statement is true? If they really are successful with a new CHS product, and other factors are the basis for its delay, then I would be all for KRAFT and would invest again! Truthfulness is a vital component in this Co's Business manner, and so far that is questionable!
I look forward to that April 1st. conference call, for they will come up with something in the way of verification, maybe an old but non-essential document, or maybe a new one that confirms something! But after 2+ years, we all should have some definite documents that show that they are knocking at the door of Commercialization? But they have to provide names, for if they cannot, it might mean that no one will Partner with them with what they have on Hand, (Not enough,) for it suggests that no product is yet developed enough to warrant their time and Money? GL
Pegs.. Evidently the CHS Patent in NDSUs hands is simple enough where somebody might think it is easy to produce another version, but just like a mixed drink, (not my indulgence,) say a Screwdriver, the addition of another alcoholic beverage like Vermouth changes the whole chemistry of the drink? It becomes an entirely different product, and maybe has a lesser effect than the Original Screwdriver?
I don't know about those things, but when people start screwing around with a well designed and tested product like the CHS compound, they might waste a lot of money and time trying to arrive at a better formula, and never find it? We can just imagine the many trials and errors the original developers of the CHS material had to overcome before they made this monumental discovery! Saying that, they optimized the formula to the very extent of the present day knowledge at the time, so to make a better CHS+ may be just a waste of time? Not saying it cannot be done these days, with so much more being learned about nano-chemistry, but it is doubtful that the Boys first try will be successful, and will have to try all over again?
Men, try to buy-out the Original patent, as that will make you folks look better in the New Customer's eyes! Spend time buying that stuff rather than bringing in teams of scientists needed to improve upon something that is already quite revolutionary? IMO only...
sdvi... calling is useless, but I messaged them a number of times!!!