Is THAT right? What is it that need to learn and/or what is it that I stated that you THINK is not correct?

Found out why you don't hear anything from vplm ever.....

It costs $.02 to put "your two cents in" but vplm is only $.0175

Shame on the mess

Are you being moronic or is that just an act? I had thought that I blocked you as I tired of your insulting and rude remarks and had no use for them anymore, not even for the usual entertainment purposes. But apparently the button malfunctioned or something because I see your post when I should not. Oh, and by the way, the fact that you actually think you can dictate to others how to write or how many words etc, truly reveals your narcissistic personality (I'm a student of psychology). That part is still mildly amusing but I don't like to find too much humor in others misgivings as I know you can't help it. Also not too sharp cuz after all your constant immature insulting comments to which I let you know I didn't appreciate and twice I offered to just let it lie, which you obviously don't have the balls to do, so one would at least assume the obvious that I wouldn't want you to jump in like a speed freak or something to answer, no, to throw more insults. A person with common sensabilities would just step aside and let someone else answer. This solidifies your diagnosis. Anyhoo, know that I will be sure this time to make sure you go on the blocked list so when you inevitably attempt to throw more sophomoric insults, I will not see them cuz I will test the block this time to make sure and so you will be surely doing so to impress yourself and you hope, others. I don't know if blocked posters are shown anything so that they know they are but that matters not to me. So this time, you may as well stand in front of a mirror when you sling your hate, because you'll be addressing yourself. If you don't believe it, doesn't matter cuz I'm the one who won't see your crap anymore.

Oh, that was under 10 words, no? See cat? See cat play? See John? See john run?

*** This just in... Vplm is sinking lower and lower into never never land. Soon we'll need a scanning tunneling scope to see it.. However it may be mitigated by some quick calls to get that price back up over 2 cents which is most likely what will happen very soon as they can not allow the price to keep sinking. The big mean green machine depends on approx 2 to 2.5 cents to keep the ATM running smoothly and adequately for all the checks (shares) that need to get mailed out. I think the dip is actually designed to stimulate some buying. Haha someone yest said that all the babs selling was just a tiny percentage of her holdings. I beg to differ. Oh, and the word is "rhetorical" not "ironic"...

Buh-bye bubbie...

I am surprised to see price dip this low. I can only assume it's due to all the insider selling. Could someone kindly explain to me how that works to cause price to dip continuously as of late, seemingly in lockstep with the insider selling. Is it simply that they sell so cheap that it drives down the ask? Appreciate any insight on how that selling affects the price. I'm sure also that as some shareholders have just had enough of this non productiveness and sell, that probably also does some to drive price down.

It would also seem that all those you hear bragging about it's such a great buying opportunity to load up......well, apparently they're not actually doing so...

That is incorrect. A patent is valid intrinsically. The moment it becomes or is approved as a patent by the uspto, it is then a valid patent, not because of what its value or what it may or may not be able to do, but because it met the criteria required by uspto to become a patent. Thus a patent is fully valid it's entire life unless and until someone comes along and challenges uspto as much as the patent itself, for that intrinsic validity. And if the challenge is successful, then the patent becomes invalidated unless, I think, only some component of the patent is invalidated but the rest of the patent remains valid. Has to be 1 or the other.

And so, since none of the many challenges to the patents has resulted in any kind of invalidation, then of course, the patents are intact and the same as the day they were born, validity wise. They have not gained anything in the process, only successfully defended themselves against the challenges. Unless you can show where any of above is not fully factual, then it becomes obvious that the infringement trials are NOT about validity. They can't be. Makes no sense. The trials are about showing that the defendants have indeed stolen and used or use the technology imbedded in the patents. That is nothing to do with validity. It's more of did your hands go in the cookie jar and did the cookies wind up in your belly?

"And not all patents are valid as the only entity to make that determination is the court AFTER a lawsuit."

That is PATENTLY a false statement. All patents are valid unless and until a challenger, usually via an IPR trial, successfully gets a patent or some part of it made to be invalid. It's my belief that a judge and jury determines if the patent was truly infringed upon NOT whether it's valid or not.

The value of vplm shares is about the same as what it costs to manufacture a penny these days.

At the same time, you're supposed to believe that the potential value, all told, of owning the patents is in the range of a trillion dollars. Realistically. That's like trying to connect a dot from here to pluto.

Wishful thinking allows ppl to ignore this disparate fact and maintain their belibership.

Not only will this sophisticated farce start unraveling at some point, that too will be mostly kept secret as to the details.......to protect the guilty. The shadow knows

Oh triple this and double that and treble this and they're desperate this and worried that and our stuff is rock solid, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah........and oh what an exciting time to load up.......... yada yada yada......



.........and yet the price keeps falling slowly surely steadily..... but if all those things were true, the price would steadily be climbing. Duh.

The patents are real. The lawyers are real. The hearings are real. The IPRs are real. The validity is real. The damage estima:tes are real. The logical discussions here about what going on behind the scenes are pretty logical (sometimes)............

...........................................BUT.....................................................

infringement can never be shown and/or invalidity can still be monkey wrenched in.
That's what I think will happen because so many dots don't connect.
Anyone (and that's many shareholders) who still believe that not a single voip service provider out there, named, sued or not, has not had the common sense and fiduciary sense to license or settle BEFORE they are hit on the head with ever increasing infringement damages........does not understand the nature of what's going on. And THAT'S including the fact that vplm has easily (in direct contrast and conflict with what we were told when this began) been able to raise all the funds necessary to wage a world class offense including 1 super lawyer after another. Therefore the dots don't connect and it doesn't make sense, in terms of its all good. It's not and that will unravel sooner or later.

Your main point seems to hinge on patent validity. I have tried to no avail, for years, to teach that patent validity has nothing to do with need, value, efficacy, current workability and most especially not, infringement. When a patent becomes a patent, it's valid, period......until and unless someone challenges it and it's found to no longer be valid. ALL PATENTS ARE VALID!!! otherwise they wouldn't be a patent. A stack of IPR "wins" 8 miles high would not ensure infringement and would not mean a guarantee a given patent can do anything it claims.......... BUT IT'S STILL VALID!

The big news is vplm has violated the courts rules, but it's ok, its vplm... they're allowed to do anything with full immunity. There'll prolly be a PR to follow where lord Emu says how pleased he is...

In other big news of the day...

The big green monster share printing, selling, personal ATM and sanctions short circuit machine is still like 5 stories high but expanding everyday!

Man....sounds like a whole lotta moncky wrenches to me......perhaps a gaggle?

Lolol......you just took the words right out of my mouth. I was just about to post another monkey wrench and you saved me the trouble... It is however, important and not as trivial or ridiculous as many think, when these so called monkey wrenches are mentioned, because they potentially (beyond potentially for me) point to and bolster and support my belief that they (the monkey wrenches) are not random events but rather part of the whole nefarious scheme and plans that I strongly believe are the vplm reality. Every time, for years and years that I mention incoming monkey wrenches........that's exactly what happens. But please know thats not my main supporting happenstance. By and large, the main, and when I say main, I'm talking BIG BIG TIME.........reason for my strong belief in hanky panky farce of a company.....is.......because it's wholly against human nature and has never before happened........that such a humongous set of power and money potential........would be thrown under the bus in the 1st place, by vplm, when they took the patent troll poster boy route AND when all other companies and big investors in the world choose to just let such a limitless and untold fortune sit in the middle of the road to let any competitor to scoop it up at any moment. Makes no sense. Cannot be explained away...(somd have tried to but their "explanations" ALWAYS do not even begin to cover the bases of the vplm patents alleged power and value. That alleged amount of power and money is in a completely different league than any so called analogous comparison the explainers try to bring up, such as the Kearns wiper story, et al. There simply is no way to explain it away. I've looked at every possible angle. No such thing at the alleged level of the patents being all that, has ever happened to my knowledge. For every excuse or "reason" posters can come up with to allegedly explain away why the whole thing is legit, I can provide 10 critically thought out reason why it's a farce.

Just curious.. I see many many predictions you've made. As far as I can see, they ALL have been wrong. Some are direct, some are kinda implied. Here's just a few of them more recently. Are you shooting for a record or something? Does Carnac get a bonus this year? Lol
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Carnac just made an appearance and did he unload some interesting tidbits. Short little offerings like “Something really big by 10/15”
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Hello Rapz, all he said was that it would be a catalyst event. We shall see.
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Carnac just stopped by and said to be ready for something big that will come by the end of next week. We shall see.
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Watch for a possible huge surprise at the end of this month.
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That’s ok because my LONG time cause will be met shortly.
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So your pretty sure they’re worthless. Really. We will find out real soon
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Will the 24th be historical? We shall see
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Thanks Rapz. Very insightful. Speaking of insightful, Carnac gives his regards and also says that the 24th could be very interesting.

He also believes big news will be coming out before the next quarterly financials are released
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- I believe that vplm will reap both the infringement rewards from cases that have been negotiated to close and also add a healthy gain from a total sale.
- Actions over the next two weeks will confirm my prediction.
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Carnac told me BIG announcement coming our way TODAY !!!! Hold on to your hats or big fluffy swami headpieces.
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IMHO you are 100% correct in everything in your post, most especially the comment about what an insult the patience thingy is. I've been saying the same for a long time. That's exactly what it is....an insult. The way I see it, when anyone way over uses a word or a phrase, especially one that is patently wrong for more than 10 yrs in fact, then it turns that word or phrase into a negative and dirty word.
It also makes little to zero sense for a company and a ceo who is truly on the up and up and truly cognizant of and with a sense of responsibility to, his fiduciary duty to those who have supported his trip for all these years. That is just one of many reasons that since those dots don't connect, that I find something other than fiduciary duty and other than patents that are "ALL THAT", because then the dots connect and not just on that point but on many others as well. Frankly, when viewed as a setup whose intention is to be a personal ATM for insiders, those dots easily connect too and not just because I say so or some conspiracy theory kind of mindset, but it is exactly what we see happening right before out eyes with the undeniable selling like there's no tomorrow, when there is allegedly and supposedly good news on the horizon. Doesn't add up. Dots don't connect.

Oh, and there WAS an announcement of a settlement made right here almost 6 mos ago now, on 5/2 with a 45 day fine tune allotment and let's face it, NOTHING became of it. We got the ol, keep em in the dark and feed em shit treatment. We're on a need to know basis with an added clause that we have no need to know. The vaunted IR guy, according to a poster's info about a call he made, reported that he (IR guy) stated there was indeed a settlement and it was good for shareholders. That post is here to find and read. Yet, such a thing would presumably trigger as a significant material event and regardless of any alleged Nda's, should have, by law, been reported in an 8k and or the last 10q, to the best of my knowledge and I have done plenty of DD on it and even posted the sec rules on it which are clear as a bell. Again, dots don't connect, unless viewed as a big ol scheme. Then they connect. And the history of lord Emu has been one of failure and deception.

Oops I 4got....the only thing you were slightly off about is the fact that a few, definitely a minority, have been smart enough or lucky enough to not attach to another over used and obviously incorrect advice given many times by the self styled "super longs" or "true longs", about never selling your shares and never letting the enemy get them from you and all that pure hogwash. A few have made some profit.

Gee, look how much I wrote. Surely all that could've easily been condensed into 1 or 2 sentences as most of it lacks import and significance. Oh well...

That sounds about as good a theory as anything I've heard.........but it assumes Amazon believes the patents have value and that they believe they are or will be infringing. Major doubts about that in my opinion. Either way, both possibilities are not suitable to put smiles on shareholders faces.........EXCEPT.......GUESS WHO?.........yup, you guessed it...the insiders are in the smiles NO MATTER WHICH WAY IT GOES! Lord Emu designed this game to be near foolproof insider ATM from the gitgo or at some point along the way. The proof of this is the fact that for something that's alleged to be worth MANY billions of dollars, no one...... I repeat NO ONE has ever been the least bit interested in buying the patents......except vplm. That's fact! Think about it... And all the apparent legitimate LOOKING moves that have accompanied this play for all these years, were all incorporated to make "THE STORY" appear legitimate, but can all be explained away when diving deep enough into the true nature of this dog and pony show.

Come February, the eggs, faces and Moncky wrenches shall meet again, intimately. Don't worry, I'll remind...

Peace at last! Peace at last!.............mebbe

Anyway about 3 yrs ago I predicted that vplm had another 10 yrs most likely, to go on like this.... Then 2 yrs ago I said it was down to about 9 yrs. Then last year I said it was down to around 8 yrs. This year I said it was down to 7 or 6 and a half. That, all based on various past histories. But the thing of it is........in vplm's case, the long wait time is not due to the usual reasons with other companies.. In vplm's case it's because they want it to continue on AS IS for as long as possible because it's all part of their personal ATM and keeping it in good working order while for everyone else it's just a mirage for the beliebers.

No, I didn't misconstrue anything. That's what you do quite consistently as one reads your posts and now you are also becoming a copycat, saying I do the same thing whatever I say you are doing. Sophomoric but understandable. There was nothing ABOUT me in my post. I simply wanted to disagree with your statement that the vplm story was same as the wiper story, and I did so very simply but I saw there was the need to mention also that my opposite opinion was not based on the usual rebuttals, so I added that with an example, to save anyone going down that same old road again. You're problem is you're ornary in your replies and you keep twisting words or misunderstanding them and you seem to be missing those particular neurons that would allow you to otherwise be able to discern the difference between posting a differing opinion vs posting ABOUT oneself. That's ok, I lend you those neurons so you can see the difference. When someone posts their OPINION, that's not the same as someone talking about oneself. Pretty simple concept, both things. As to me replying to you "as if" you asked me, lol, I would have to judge that as your ego or similar to when peeps think others are talking about them when they aren't. Fact o matter is that I went out of my way to explain why I added the additional comment above and beyond my simple comment that it's not the same as the wiper story. You see, I mentioned, for your benefit of understanding, that this issue about the wiper story had been gone over here multiple times and normally, I don't like to make short statements about something without in some way supporting it or backing it up. So since I didn't want to go thru my whole set of reasons for why I don't see the wiper story same as the vplm story, instead I thought to just mention that my reasons were not the usual ones that are always shot down. That was INTENDED to help you see that I wasn't just disagreeing for the sake of itself but surprise, you missed that and turned into it's all about me. . And of course posters do not need to reply to a post made to them in oder to want to chime in. You imply that's not good but there's nothing wrong with doing so I'm here to tell you.

Lastly, I don't at the moment recall exactly what court info your referring to OR that I needed you to explain. I'd have to go back and relook, but I have the sense that you THOUGHT I needed you to explain something when in fact I was rather looking for you to show what YOU thought about the court info. Again, I don't really recall the details at the moment but if you choose to belabor it (which reminds me, I remember giving my opinion and saying you gave yours and I gave mine and we might lay it to rest but that wasn't good enough for you and you opted to go on about it), you will quote it and I will most likely show again how you did the chubby checker or needed those unfortunately missing neurons (not your fault). Actuality, you seem to think you have to explain alot of things that don't need splainin

The patents have, for about 20 yrs, proven themselves......to have zero value.

When you're not twisting things, you're misconstruing them. I didn't say or imply it was about me. I simply jumped in to say it's not the same as the wiper story and then, since I said that and since I wasn't gonna go thru that whole deal again, I thought I should at least add that the different conclusions I've reached were not based on the usual reasons that ppl often respond with that have nothing to do with my reasons, ie, what I listed. I said that to save anyone the trouble of bringing those same invalid reasons. For ex, they repeatedly try to make me understand that the patents are valid due to all the IPR decisions. I have always stated that the patent are valid, but not for that reason.

So again, it wasn't about me it was about me disagreeing with the so called good example......and then adding something to remind that my reasons aren't the usual ones that get debunked.

It's ok that you usually find fault... Not my fault, lol

No, it not "a great example"... It's a far different story and situation. This wipers thing has been brought up and discussed here numerous times. If you think it's the same thing, that's fine. I don't. I've explained all that here before.

Besides, it has no bearing whatsoever on my conclusion that there are no infringements and the patents are useless. I've explained enough times, in great detail, my basis for that conclusion. It has nothing to do with wipers or companies stalling or invalid patents or slow courts or anything along any of those lines, even tho ppl keep ascribing those reasons to me, as though I have ever used them to explain my sentiments about vplm and the value of the patents. Nothing whatsoever. My conclusions are based on well thought out inferences and dot connecting. It's the same as how we know almost everything there is to know about atoms, via inference rather than direct observation.

That's what you think, but not the way it is from my perspective. Vplm thrives off ppl who believe that's how it is. It's been explained... In any event, why don't you explain why you think the bigs are stalling. For what purpose?

There you go again, assuming you are knowledgeable where others aren't. 1st you start with saying "no" as if to summarily dismiss what I had said that you are replying to, but you said no then went on to agree with what I said, which is simply that electronic trading is way faster, and more accurate I might add, than bodies on the floor of an exchange.

As well, it's progress. It's the evolution of trading. It's incorrect to say trading wasn't designed for this because peeps used to make deals under a tree. That was then this is now. Electronic trading works and makes sense and is necessary. That's why H. Ford invented the assembly line. Progress. Speed. Efficiency. To say the way it is isn't what was intended is fallacious. When things or processes are invented, generally speaking, they are not looking far into the future for their workability, they are working with the here and now. Then, progress is when human ingenuity comes up with better ideas and then those ideas are incorporated and thats how things progress. If you wish to go find a tree and write a snail mail to some broker to buy or sell, then by all means. Today its electronic as almost everything is and that's because we are the creator. Again with telling me how I can do research, lolol. To coin a phrase, if I may, arrogance will get you far.....over the cliff.

As I had already reported and posted yesterday, chat AI is the same technology as how Google works. No one has claimed either to necessarily be accurate, but the obvious thing to realize is that they provide lots of results from scraping and allow one the opportunity to research various results and to use checks and balances to discern whats true and not. It's called fact checking. I think most peeps already know that just because something is on the net doesn't make it true.

The issue wasn't whether you said you couldn't or wasn't sure and I never tried to make that a issue. The issue as I made clear from the get, was about you saying some court document info was privy to you and maybe not to others. I didn't understand how that would be so and so I questioned you about it. You also suggested I should go to the trouble and expense of hiring a Texas lawyer to get said info. So I did my own research, something that I've done a massive amount of on vplm amongst other stick issues, for the past 13 yrs or so and have said so here from and demonstrated it here with many documents and laws and definitions, etc. etc. Anyone that has read much of this board would know that. Even today I posted legal DD here. And yet you now are, lol, claiming to have taught me how to do research. That's funny of you to say. You haven't taught me anything, but if it makes feel important to say that, that's ok. And your claim that I was relying on you for research is pretty funny. I like jokes.

So as was saying, after I found your privy claim to be questionable, I did the research, as I always instinctively do and found there was absolutely no validity to what you said. I know you're backpedaling now and will twist and turn it, but that is what went down. There is no such "privy" or privacy issue as you tried to claim might be the case. And you didn't sound as tho you were aware but unless you ordered more than $30 worth of docs from Pacer at a dime apiece, in a quarter, then the docs were free, so no excuse there and if you did happen to wind up paying for whatever docs you were originally referring to, most likely it was under a dollar or so and regardless of that, the research shows that those docs are constitutionally public with no copyright so no reason whatsoever, contrary to what you were trying to feed me, that you could not have shared what you stated might not be shareable. And there is no such thing as court docs that only you are "privy to".

Thus, once again, my instincts and common sense turned out to be right when I had a slight problem with what you originally claimed. The posts are there to see and support what I just said. So now you can:

You misunderstood me. I normally get what I'm told the 1st time. I understood everything you said perfectly. This excerpt from my post shows where I differenciated between Google and your link:

"But it sounds like the service you left the link for is solely there to explain court docs. In fact I should quit guessing about it and go check out your link see exactly how it works."

However, I had not yet tried the link and mistakenly got the idea that it was specifically geared to court docs. I have since looked closely into it and I now understand exactly what it is and had posted something about that. I also posted some info about the fallibility of AI and chatGPT. So you must have misunderstood me. I did not say it was Google. What I was trying to say in that post was based on you saying it (chatGPT) was like Google. I merely was saying I didn't know you could use Google for translating legalese (which I thought better of later). I was just alluding to your comparison to Google to help point out that your link was probably much better. See what I mean now? Then I said I would stop guessing and go check out the link. I did so right after and now am fully up on what it is, which is indeed same technology as google, ie, AI. Sorry if my choice of words threw you off.

Incidentally, there's a new PLUS version of chatGPT and chatGPT will not be staying free.

Thought I should note that AI in general and specifically ChatGPT, are not to be depended upon or trusted esp in important cases where accuracy is paramount. Always do appropriate amt of parallel DD to compare and corroborate facts before accepting them as gospel. I just thought that's a disclaimer that should be said.

“Knowledge acquisition is the difficult problem of obtaining knowledge for AI applications.[c] Modern AI gathers knowledge by "scraping" the internet (including Wikipedia). The knowledge itself was collected by the volunteers and professionals who published the information (who may or may not have agreed to provide their work to AI companies).[29] This "crowd sourced" technique does not guarantee that the knowledge is correct or reliable. The knowledge of Large Language Models (such as ChatGPT) is highly unreliable -- it generates misinformation and falsehoods (known as "hallucinations"). Providing accurate knowledge for these modern AI applications is an unsolved problem."

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I'm thinking that most trading these days is electronic. As far as what you said about flash.....so what is the problem with it? To me, flash infers the speed at which these programs can operate. Seems necessary these days?

My take is that federal law and constitutional law trumps judges discretion even in Texas. I think Ghost only wanted to make the general point that in most cases, court is open. I guess I inadvertently got this whole thing going when I asked or suggested that courts are open, but I only said that because someone said something about they being privy to certain court docs while others might not be. I had a problem with that so I questioned it. Turns out, he was talking about the fees paid via Pacer, but to me that didn't adequately answer why he thought he had to hold back certain info he said was ok for his eyes but maybe not others. So I looked up about the copying and sharing of such info gathers from Pacer and there is no copyright nor any reason the info cannot be shared online because it's public info to begin with. So I think the poster was wrong to say the docs were only for him. No reason I could find why he couldn't freely share. That then led into this whole discussion about open courtroom and judge discretion. The answer is that indeed it sometimes is up to a judges discretion and in other cases it's a matter of constitutional law. In most cases where there is not sensitive and/or personal privacy and safety involved, courts are usually to be open to the public.

For anyone interested, here's some Texas law on the issue:

https://www.tdcaa.com/journal/revisiting-the-perils-of-closing-a-courtroom-to-the-public/#:~:text=Before%20a%20judge%20may%20exclude,tailored%20to%20protect%20that%20value.

I didn't even know that you COULD use Google to translate legalese. Is that so? I mean not directly, more likely you'd just get a whole mix of different incoming opinions in conflict with ea other if you tried to use Google for that purpose. But it sounds like the service you left the link for is solely there to explain court docs. In fact I should quit guessing about it and go check out your link see exactly how it works.

10-4 on the old school values. That's me. But I have no problem with electronic trading. Electronics don't lie or manipulate as long as hoo-mans ain't tweaking the software, which of course they are. Sad truth is when money is involved, human beings will do whatever it takes to get their hands on it. That's generally speaking. Not saying everyone is a crook, but sooner or later, 99.9% do crooked stuff for money sake. Especially when times get rough or their freedom or continued existence is at stake. You can't even trust yourself sometimes when push comes to shove.

Was no need for you to apologize to anyone. You just needed to a little widening of your perspective. And again, must be an awful thin line between greed and not greed. What is the dividing line?

As to why I'm here... I've told my whole story here a million times. I've been 100% truthful. Yet it begets all sorts of disbelieving me and disrespect and ridicule and accusations of everything under the sun, mostly because those peeps are simply mean spirited or dumb or followers of well known mean spirited ppl with hardcore agendas. Some of it is utterly amazing to see ppl who act try to present themselves as mature, smart, knowledgeable, good judges of character, fair, objective, etc etc........but then throw all that out and act like children, not nice children but mean children who were abused. And they talk so knowingly and sure if themselves but are the worst judges of character there can be. And they act very sophomoric and pedestrian and deceitful. Of course all of those attributes are their mental issues, not mine. I don't harass ppl or get into name calling or rude nasty vulgar PMs sent on a regular daily basis for years. And yet, there are peeps here who follow ppl like that as tho they are god or a guru. Me, I get alot of entertainment from some of it. If it becomes annoying I just block. Some of them are so driven, they continue to post mean spirited stuff to me daily even tho they are blocked and i never see their posts. A couple ppl pm'd me to tell me but I tell them not to pm me as I don't care. Their mental issues are theirs not mine.

To answer you question, I'm here for a number of reasons. For one, I'm a long time stockholder and come here to see what's happening. Also, it's a great source of entertainment to me. Also this board is like social media to me. I don't do Facebook or X or any of the main social media. Never have. I think they are bad places where you just give away all your privacy and let yourself be used by all the bigs involved who buy and sell your personal info left and right. At the same time I like to talk and especially I like to write and here I have something in common with everyone, vplm. I also have done a ton of research and I'm smart in certain areas and have followed this play as closely as I can for almost 13 yrs and I believe every word I've said here about vplm and I figure I'm just as entitled to speak my mind as to what I have determined as those who are pro vplm. That's my right and that's what the forum is here for. Meanwhile there are many who have shown clearly that they think if you aren't pro vplm you dont belong here, lolol. I love pushing back and pushing their buttons especially since I usually don't say anything unless I know what I'm talking about and can back it up. So it's a great for of social media for me. I also provide lots of good info and documents and insight. And I definitely have a well developed sense of humor and provide some laffs here and there. No hidden agendas. Never any thoughts of driving price up down or anywhere. Never shorted. And the dummies who hang on every word I say and are infatuated with me and can't wait to say something hateful to me, I hope it makes them feel better and I hope it helps keep them off the streets, haha. All I can say to them is wise up, don't hate. There's no time for hate. Get a grip. You're not impressing anyone except yourself.

I truly hope vplm pulls off a big bingo but in my head and heart, I'm pretty sure I know better as I've spelled out many times why I think so. I've written off my remaining shares to likely never be more than toilet paper but there's always that miracle possibility. I'm locked into the black forever with vplm as long as I don't buy anymore which I won't. And if I ever get the 50 cents I want for m y shares, too bad oh well...

Makes one wonder about the veracity of the sec as well. There are volumes attesting to sec corruption. The fcc takes kickbacks why not the sec?

Settlement in principle was announced 5/2. If that's not the settlement date, then where is the settlement date listed?

I'd have to agree there's some truth to that but I don't know about 95%. That amount of peeps not caring about the truth is scary. But hey, if ppl want to play stocks like they were a scratch off or a one arm bandit, that's their perogative. That can be fun. Maybe they don't want to do the research cuz they already know that the really low priced pennystocks are a complete crap shoot so they want to take their chances. It all comes down to whether you can afford to lose or not. I take it very seriously and don't want to lose. That's why quit gambling. And I have lots of fun here and make alot of jokes but all lightheartedly and once I realized what I think vplm is up to and that day trading was too risky, I quit buying vplm.

"Is it time yet to face the reality that the only reason anyone bought this stock was for greed?"

I can't agree with that. It's true for some I suppose but in my case and others I'm sure, I bought in way back before any of what you suggest is true. I got in somewhere around 2009 or so. I know it was that far back because that's when I started buying stocks, having recognized the apparent major opportunity to get into it after the big crash, even though I knew absolutely zero about stocks and the market. And also because I remember getting in somewhere 1 to 2 yrs before I discovered there was a msg board. For a long time I had no idea there was this msg board. And I did register here almost back to 2010, so that puts me getting into vplm near 2009. Thats almost 15 yrs. It was long before there was even any talk about patents. I had rcvd a tip about vplm and when I saw it was a company involved in voip, I was already aware of voip and thought it would get very big because it already was getting big.

I don't consider that greed per se. Greed is a funny and somewhat ambiguous word. Where does it cross the line from simply wanting to leverage things to make a profit.....to becoming obsessive or overreaching, thus greedy?

And the way you characterized it is all wrong... It sounds as though you're channeling your own feelings into what the rest of shareholders thought and believed. You need to, as I have often recommended ppl do, go back and read the history of this board. Only then, can you truly know what everyone was thinking as it's all documented right here.

Doing so, you would find that some or many had already got on the bus long before any talk of acquisition or patents. Then, fast fwd to about 2011 when almost to a person, all believed in the BS story STORY (read yarn) that vplm began putting out there (read spinning) in what is to me, the infamous PRs put out repeatedly, one after another, full of lies, by Dennis Chang, then CEO or president or whatever the hell he was. It was those story spinning PRs that persuaded me and many others to buy and buy or to become new shareholders. Many BIG promises were made in those PRs, which were never honored, BUT THEY DID INDEED GARNER MANY NEW SHAREHOLDERS AND SOLD MANY SHARES (to get the managers of vplm all setup). To be honest, I can't say for certain if and when the scamminess began before this or later on after lord Emu took over. It's possible that those PRs I refer to were on the up and up until after the deal was done completely and lord Emu came in. So what parts kipping, sawyer, Chang played, in terms of when it went rogue, I can't say for sure. It became known to me that something was very wrong when it became apparent that vplm was up for sale. All the plans, and the plans were fantasic and exciting, were abruptly thrown under the bus. And then lord Emu took over. So hard to tell how early the scamminess started and whether it was preplanned or evolved.

Point is, the word greed has a perjoritive component, as tho the ppl that invested in vplm were doing so for some untoward reason. I don't see that. Perhaps for some, but most, as you can read the history here, just wanted to invest in a winner. I don't percieve that as greed. It's like any other business. You invest in it and try to see a profit. Calling it greed kind of makes it the fault of the shareholders when it doesn't happen. Where I fault the shareholders is letting vplm slide and getting away with the way things have gone.

Mr WBW... Your post poses very good questions, some directly, some indirectly. In my opinion, and I don't know if the implications are there purposely or just kind of floated to be nice and show respect, but I was almost yelling to myself that the implications ought to be more forceful. Your questions/implications seemed to answer themselves, the way you laid it out. Very nice job of it, you did, as I would not have been able to show that much respect and restraint to lord Emu and the Emu-ess, considering his past history here and prior.

Kudos to you for not letting yourself become infected with the "patience is a virtue" and "best position ever" viruses.

Please be on the lookout for any indication that lord Emu has reimplemented his infamous so called anti dilution plan, where he automatically maintains 40% of all sales for himself. A few weeks ago and I just can't remember where I read it, but it said something about that having had occurred and I didn't follow up on it to see if true. I did see it in print though.

I have long been astonished at what the shareholders and the sec allow vplm to get away with and of course, getting away with stuff is equal to encouragement. Many still revere and cheer him on. It reminds me of the times when bandits on the run get cheered on by the townsfolk as they pass through on the run, just cause they're getting away with it and are besting the man. The difference here is those cheering on the robber are his own victims. And THAT is what helped him get here. And THAT, I think, is what he planned on in the 1st place.

Before I even finish reading your post of such diligently compiled figures on the share selling, I feel the need to put out to prominence this 1 fact you noted. It needs to be repeated and to stand alone, in bold.


"IN 2020 THROUGH 23 THE AVERAGE PROFIT OF SHARES SOLD IS $845,672 PER YEAR. FOR A COMPANY THAT HAS NO REVENUES AND JUST A PATENT CASE THAT IS A HEFTY AMOUNT OF PROFIT" .

VPLM.....if it hasn't rendered you nuts yet.....give it 5 minutes, that'll change...

Not bad front either..............to say the least