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It appears to me that your post is narrow minded, thus you reach false conclusions.
1. Some ppl who post negative about the company, still own stock. It's ridiculous to think there is something not right with that fact. For example, I own stock from years ago before I determined my later negative view. I stopped buying vplm stock when I came to that realization and vowed to never buy it again, which I adhered to, to this day. But at that point in time, I had been way underwater, because I kept buying and buying as the price kept rising and then it basically crashed and I wound up losing a lot, on paper. So I wised up and started day trading and was able to recoup all my losses plus a pretty handsome profit and at that point still had a lot of shares which I have sat on ever since (probably 8 yrs or so...) and I also came to realize many things about the company that were negative so that's what I post about.
On the other hand, there are most likely, ppl who do not own shares but for any number of possible reasons, choose to post negatively about the company. And they have that right to do so regardless of the reasons. But you can't just assume they do or don't own stock and as far as I'm concerned, I couldn't care less. The way l see it, if they post credible sounding things, I read and consider them, regardless of shares owned or not and I would never ask them about their position because it's none of my business. Conversely, if they choose to post their position, it means zero to me because it's not a documented thing and even if it was, I still dont care anyway, as I'm just not into that...
So, I hope that widens your viewpoint some. It should. If it doesn't, you're bound to keep misinterpreting and mischaracterizing certain posters.
IRPs?
I don't know about the suit being shareholders class action like I thought. Suit brought by 4 entities. 2 of them are below.
CALENTURE, LLC
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Incorporation Date
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Addition of officer REGISTERED AGENTS INC, dos process agent
2018-12-31 - 2019-03-05
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Revive Investing, LLC
556 Crestpark Dr
Glen Burnie, MD 21061
Contact: Helen Hazelton
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Phone: (443) 850-6475
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Revive Investing is located in Glen Burnie, Maryland. This organization primarily operates in the Investors, nec business / industry within the Holding and Other Investment Offices sector. This organization has been operating for approximately 8 years. Revive Investing is estimated to generate $139,466 in annual revenues, and employs approximately 5 people at this single location. This is a women owned and operated business.
Sector: Holding and Other Investment Offices
Category: Investors, nec
Industry: Investors, nec
SIC Code: 6799
NAICS Name: Miscellaneous Intermediation
NAICS Code: 523910
The suit is real. It was initiated yesterday. I have it on pacer
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Revive Investing LLC et al v. Malak et al
New York Southern District Court
Case #: 1:23-cv-07281
Nature of Suit 850 Other Statutes - Securities/Commodities/Exchange
Cause 28:1331sv Fed. Question: Securities Violation
Case Filed: Aug 16, 2023
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Parties (4)
Docket last updated: 08/16/2023 11:59 PM EDT
Wednesday, August 16, 2023
3 service Request for Issuance of Summons Wed 08/16 10:09 PM
REQUEST FOR ISSUANCE OF SUMMONS as to Emil Malak and VoIP-Pal.Com Inc., re:1 Complaint,,,. Document filed by Calenture, LLC, Revive Investing LLC..(Hunter, James)
2 misc Civil Cover Sheet Wed 08/16 10:04 PM
CIVIL COVER SHEET filed..(Hunter, James)
1 cmp Complaint Wed 08/16 9:59 PM
COMPLAINT against Emil Malak, VoIP-Pal.com, Inc.. (Filing Fee $ 402.00, Receipt Number ANYSDC-28159661)Document filed by Revive Investing LLC, Calenture, LLC..(Hunter, James)
Att: 1 Exhibit A -- Baggio Forms 4 filed 2023-05-19,
Att: 2 Exhibit B -- Baggio Form 4 filed 2023-05-22,
Att: 3 Exhibit C -- Baggio Form 4 filed 2023-05-30,
Att: 4 Exhibit D -- Baggio Form 4 filed 2023-06-05,
Att: 5 Exhibit E -- Baggio Form 4 filed 2023-06-12,
Att: 6 Exhibit F -- Baggio Form 4 filed 2023-06-20,
Att: 7 Exhibit G -- Baggio Form 4 filed 2023-06-26,
Att: 8 Exhibit H -- Baggio Form 4 filed 2023-07-03,
Att: 9 Exhibit I -- Baggio Forms 4 filed 2023-07-10,
Att: 10 Exhibit J -- Baggio Forms 4 filed 2023-07-17,
Att: 11 Exhibit K -- Summary of Transactions,
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"the patents are real"........
No kidding? So what patents are not real? Can't wait to hear
I thought it said $1.4 million
Wouldn't be the 1st time. Vplm had to angrily PR about false stories in the past. I thought it said bloomberg.com and the story writer is shown but no way I wouldn't put it past someone to fake it, especially some extremely disgruntled person who just has HAD ENOUGH of this circus.
I wonder if loophole lawyer has any additional info?
There was a court named and a case number but I couldnt find anything with that info. Really strange. Does anyone have the full story or the court case ?
Here is the info given
COURT: S.D.N.Y.
TRACK DOCKET: No. 1:23-cv-07281
Just checked again going on 13 hrs later and no story out there aside from the Bloomberg link which can't be read behind a few lines unless you sign up for newsletter. I've seen Bloomberg post 10 yr old news about vplm that was no longer even true. I want no part of Bloomberg. How can there be such a story and it's not out there in the wild? Kinda fishy
Best case scenario??? Lol, that sounds odd in terms of vplm, esp now with the latest monkey wrench. What a freaking circus. The only best case I can think of would've been to try your best to day trade the waves but now....geez, I'm wondering what the pps will do tomorrow. I'll be almost afraid to look. Did I not say a "mega whopper" was coming? I don't give buy sell advice ever. Not my place to do so all I can say is you might have to make some sacrifice at this point. On the other hand, vplm has, with the manipulation that comes with it, the ability to bounce back enough that may maybe some day trading is still possible.
I don't even know if this "lawsuit" is for real. Does anybody? I don't feel like signing up for the Bloomberg newsletter in order to read past the book and because I learned aong time ago that Bloomberg is a poor choice to get up to date facts, big time. I tried a bunch of times to find any other place that covered this story but could find none. It could be a scam itself. There has been stranger things than that to happen over the years with vplm. I'm gonna look to see if all this many hours later if the story is carried by anyone else but Bloomberg. If not at this late hour, I'm skeptical. Do you have any info behind the Bloomberg newsletter hook?
I'd say you're right. Shouldn't conflate. Seperate issues totally. Maybe now at least some can see that I wasn't just whistling Dixie when I keep predicting the "monkey wrenches". They were not just pulled out of a hat. I simply knew they had to appear as things got closer to some kind of end. I knew they had to and ea time, BOOM, like magic... This case, which I haven't read behind the Bloomberg book, may or may not be frivolous. It also might be another drag of delays. I wouldn't even put it last the Emu to have paid some to start a bogus case simply in order to create more delays. Anything is possible because I find the emu to be very smart and very shifty. Apparently, his bro, Raul, is seen by many in the same light in his Canadian traffic control cartel, I've heard and read. Anyway the plot thickens into a very soupy entertainment value. I've mentally written off my remaining shares long ago and since I'm long ago locked into the black, I feel I'm getting great value for my entertainment dollar! I still wish I could get my 50¢. I know, I know....never gonna happen.
Agreed.
Lololol.......oops, it's not actually funny. So true. So much damage done. Most don't know the tenth of it.
I was gonna ask you some details about the lawsuit, but now that someone pointed out to me that's MAYBE you chose to USE me in an unfair way that implies certain things about me, I'll pass.
A side effect of being a fool is that you never get to realize it. It's like a closed loop or chasing your tail. There are more than one meaning to the terms "bashers" & "pumpers". Similar to the fact that you can't have a seller without a buyer and vice versa, you can't have bashers without pumpers. The problem is that so many use the terms in an incorrect and frivolous way. There are real pumpers, paid, unpaid, company based, outside based, etc. I have previously posted the various types according to the sec, right here. Their purpose is to manipulate the pps. This is well known and established fact. There are also real bashers, with the same attributes of above and whose purpose is again to try to manipulate the price. Some of the above activities are legal, some not.
Then there are just regular ppl who use the msg boards to express their true and honest sentiments. Some of them are clueless and just are the type that like to jump on the bandwagon to praise or bitch, holler and complain, solely for the sake of itself and not due to intelligence, knowledge, facts, real DD or any bona fide reasons.
And then there are those who believe in everything they say here and have just as much right to be negative about a company as those who are pro. That's what the msg boards are for....a place to express ones opinions, good, bad or ugly, about a company and are not in any way, shape or form there for the purpose of price manipulation.
The problem is that comments like yours show zero discernment of the above differences. And I have no choice but to see that as pathetic because in my case I have been here for a very long time and have been 100% consistent in my written opinions and conclusions from the gitgo, which began for me, when vplm told the BIG LIE via Chang and his lying PRs starting in 2011 but I didn't know the whole deal was bullshit until after they, on a dime, transformed into the mega patent troll that they are in more ways than one.
I have never shorted a stock and sice I'm a very long term shareholder, it simply makes zero sense that I would badmouth this company for the purpose of manipulating the price. That should be exceedingly obvious to any discerning reader of the board. I have backed up every single opinion and/or belief in have about vplm with the best, reasonable, logical, dot connecting, facts, observations, ideas, opinions I could gather and done a huge amt of DD all along the way. We all come up with our own conclusions................................BUT.......anyone who reads my stuff, aside from the humorous elements, as I do have a fun time with it.......is a fool if they come away with the conclusion that I'm so paid (or unpaid) basher who wants to see vplm fail and/or want to manipulate the price (as it I could actually do that, lol, even if I wanted to, which I don't), they should either have their head examined or work on comprehension skills or whatever it takes to reverse a complete lack of understanding peoples character.
All that said, I had to look at what you referred to from orca which was his reply to me, several times. I confess to maybe being distracted or something when I first read his reply and what he might have been implying didn't click for me until much later when I read your above post that's seems to imply 2 things I didn't get the 1st time around. You clearly said that based on my post (I can't even remember what my post was but no doubt I was negative on vplm in some way) orca was using me in the sense that he was thanking me for "making noise" against vplm that would bring the price down for him. Like I say, I didn't catch that at all when I 1st read it and I had to look it and my list over a couple times after your post. I still am not 100% that's what he was saying but it DOES look that way. And if that's what he meant then he was using me and he has the right to say whatever he wants (free speech) but ought to know better than to make me look that way. I will keep it in mind. So I thank you for getting me to take a 2nd look.......but......you're dead wrong. Take it or leave it. I don't just "bash" vplm. I've looked at it for approx 13 yrs and I call itnfhenway I see it. Now you can say you didn't read past the 1st line or one of the other usual comments or think it's all bs. Your prerogative or defect.
"Easy Google search and presto, oops there it is!"
Google search of what? A search of the obvious returns nothing of the kind
Doesn't make much sense as an answer because 1) that link is only to get ppl to ppl to sign up for their newsletter. And the lawsuit itself doesn't have anything to do with the sec. It says the suit was brought by shareholders, as in a class action. What does that have to do with the se? And in already told you that the sec and FINRA looked very deeply at vplm in the Scottsdale case years ago. That case involved the misappropriation of diversion of much funds from 4 companies, vplm being one of them, to offshore entities. The case went on for years and might still be open last time I checked. The govt mentions vplm numerous times in that case which is proof they looked closely at vplm since it was their shares in question. Meanwhile vplm has been at this bogus play for many years and the sec/finra did nothing. Were you aware of that?
Scottsdale Capital Advisors Corporation; Hurry, John; Diblasi, Timothy; and Cruz, D. Michael - SEC.gov https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/apdocuments/3-18612-event-34.pdf
Not just here. All over the place 24/7 minus sleep time w/o exaggeration
Probably you 1st have to sign up for Bloomberg in order to read the rest of the article to get those details...........or.............try going to the NY court mentioned and enter:
COURT: S.D.N.Y.
TRACK DOCKET: No. 1:23-cv-07281
Hope that helps
Nah.....it's just a ploy by Bloomberg to have you sign up for a newsletter........
toofunny
Oh, and for the company it means "best POS ever" wasn't exactly accurate, as they keep getting better and better!
More monkey wrenches.........................AS PROMISED
theyneverlistendothey
Hey Emu........Guliano says he'll take your case for a small nominal upfront fee! Got cash? Haha.....of course you do. Just show up at the courthouse in Georgia around the 20th. Check the alleys...
Monkey wrenches UP.........vplm headed down
Like Gomer Pyle used to say......
surprise... surprise ....surprise
Maybe the Emu should ask for a venue change to Fulton County, Georgia
VoIP-Pal Provides an Update on Recent Developments in Litigation — “This is all very good news!” said Emil Malak, CEO of VoIP-Pal. “Our team is very pleased with our progress to this point.'
devilmademedoit
Check out the 3 mo and 6 mo charts...they look like bad accidents. And the 1 year chart looks like it lost about 65% to date.
What does all this mean? Easy....."best POS ever" <sic>
No need to have patience.....it gets better everyday!
I know...I know...it's the "process"......lemme tell ya....a process without progress is like a leader without any followers.
Days ago...
Bonus question.........free cones for life. Any flavor as long as it's vanilla. Sorry, we have no control over the fact that ice cream machine is down 75% of the time.
Question:
Who goes to jail 1st...Emu, Babs, Inza, Trump, Guliani?
Added bonus - chocolate syrup:
Avg length of prison term...or.....how many years for trials to complete?
Vplm.....home of the IMPOSSIBLE WHOPPER!
Last whopper was the so called Amazon settlement, lol.
It was made of several components...
1st was the blatant lie PR that announced a settlement in principle was reached and would be done deal within 45 days....(let me know if I stated that wrong)
2nd was the Richard inYA (in your pockets) Inza reveal that there was indeed a settlement and one that would make shareholders happy (stated in call allegedly made by a poster and reported here)
3rd was the lack of any 8k to reveal material event and subsequent 10Q that stated there was no material event. If there had been such a settlement, reporting it was required. Therefore there either was no such settlement or not reported but why not report?
This, of course, is no surprise as vplm has been telling lies like this on numerous occasions and on a regular basis, as I've reported all along, since at least 2011
This raises the question.........
What will the next whopper be?? It would be great fun to once again hear your guesses. Prize for the closest guess is............drum roll please........you guessed it........a free whopper! Deadline for entries is open. Bonus for nailing the date of the whopper is large fries and a large mocha frappe. Offer not available in Hawaii, Alaska and Secaucus, N.J. Illegal inside traders not eligible.
Another 7 years is more like it...
That's what you get for non certified, unaudited reports
What makes you think the sec cares about vplm? Don't you realize the sec and or FINRA has already looked deeply at vplm in their Scottsdale case? I don't believe that they don't have the cash to go after all the scams because they collect big fines all the time. I put them in the same category as the PTAB and most all govt agencies, to one degree or another. Thank goodness for all the honest watchdog groups. Money and power rule.
I don't "enjoy" watching this company fail. For one thing, I'm a shareholder so it would be stupid for me to want it to fail and whatever is worse than stupid, to enjoy it's failure. Plus I don't enjoy innocent ppl getting beat for their money, just because they weren't savvy enough to realize what's going on, however I don't feel the same way about those who treat posters in a mean and immature way just because they don't necessarily agree with their opinion.
Also, I don't see what's happening with this play as a failure anyway. I believe it's a complete success in what it is setup to accomplish, in my opinion. Its purpose is not with the shareholders enriching in mind, in my opinion, but just as the jury of their peers said about vplm in a trial, a couple years back, they (with emu at the top of the list) were guilty of unjust self enrichment and a lack of fiduciary duty. So, it appears at least to me, that its all going according to plan. And it's up to the shareholders to understand how to make a profit here. As far as I'm concerned, being "long", esp the elite "true long", lol, or better put, treating this play like a savings account and waiting for it to grow, is not a very good idea. Yes, I know that it's worked out in that regard for some, a few lucky peeps, who got in sub penny or those who know how to day trade or swing trade, but it's a loser for many, esp due to the paid and unpaid pumps of all kinds and types, including vplm directly, indirectly and those groups who take it upon themselves to manipulate. And then of course the all powerful MMs. You olah here, you play with fire, you better believe it. Retails are definitely not the beneficiaries here.
Ooo, gettin awful close to the 1 cent range a little while ago. Was only about a half cent away. Scary..
Exactly what "insiders" are you referring to?
No one said anything about emu abandoning vplm. Of course he wouldn't, that's his baby that he developed over the last near 15 yrs. It's his and cronies personal ATM. VPLM bin beddy beddy gud to him. No way hed abandon and no way are the patents "all that".
Also must say that over the years, you have taken both pos and neg sides towards the emu. That's pretty confusing...
Lookout below!! dead bodies on the bottom... been underwater too long
"...THEY TRUSTED THAT DB POS,THAT WAS TELLING THEM,THAT SURPRISES WERE COMING.LOL.AND BARBARAS SELLING WAS NOT A BIG DEAL.LOL.I WONDER HOW MUCH HE WILL BE GETTING PAID ON THIS DEAL??HE WAS THE LEAD TO FIND BUYERS.TO RAISE MONEY.FOR THIS SHARE SELLING SCAM.A TON OF PMs.I HAD BLOCKED HIM BACK THEN...."
If you only knew how correct you are, lololol. Longs, er, I mean the haha "true longs" haha, are indeed to blame but the original lies went back much much further when during 2011, 2012 and 2013 Chang promised, swore up and down, 6 ways to Sunday, in PR after PR after PR, that vplm was alread in the process of folding the newly obtained technology into the already existing (unsuccessfully for about 10 yrs?) Vplm voip services.......AND.....that tens to hundreds of millions of dollars would forthwith be coming in yearly to the benefit of shareholders......and vplm would be the leader of voip, etc etc etc. These many PRs served to garner new shareholders and to sell many shares, creating the great treasure chest of wealth for the emu, wifey, and the vast supporting cast (the cabal). Then, shortly after the deal with digi was finalized (Chang said it was finalized many times during those 3 yrs, which was another lie to boost share sales and build many new shareholders) however, it was not finalized until the end of 2013. Shortly after that, then whole big promise was shown to be nothing but a huge lie and the whole idea was thrown away with no reason, no explanation, no shareholder participation........just BOOM.....hook, line and sinker, then OH, NEVERMIND.....WE WERE JUST KIDDING, LOLOLOL...........and shareholders didn't even blink! They accepted this huge lie and ripoff.....why?.....because instead of thinking it through and admitting they'd been bamboozled, NOW they simply moved the belief and unfounded loyalty over to the next big lie......which was........we have so much major interest in the patents from CEOs from all over the place and fortune 500 companies and S&P 500 beating our doors down that we'll just sell and it will happen very very soon. Yes, vplm said all these things, some direct, some clearly implied........and so if you go back and read the history, you will see that no one was concerned. Everyone here was absotively posilutely certain a sale, a big big sale would be happening REAL SOON. And there were the so entertaining guessing game contests going on here where everyone was betting on the timeframe and the amount, mostly from a billion to 25 billion. It news hilarious. I almost began to believe but I knew better and I said so all along. And I predicted all the big dates that would result in nothing due to the "monkey wrenches" and I haven't been wrong yet to date. That said, I hope like heck I am wrong for my own benefit and all those holding the bag and underwater. Let the miracle of the Magi happen! But I'm not seeing it.
Oh, you mean like all the rest of the BOD, ie Sawyer, Candy, Tucker, etc?
"What is really sad is that most of the large infringers have gotten off without having to pay anything for using our patents all these years."
The problem, is that you believe that statement. Why exactly, do you think most of the alleged infringers got off? Where is the proof they used the patents for all these years? If none of this makes sense to you, then why do you believe the patents infringed upon? I don't and in the end that what I think will be announced.
Where's my 50 cents?
100% agree. And the other misinformation would be the "missing information", since as you noted, the ommission of material events, equates to misinformation, especially in light of the fact that well, didn't vplm pr that there was a settlement in principle and later, it was reported that inYA pockets Inza, and he was quoted, reiterated that there indeed was a settlement and one that shareholders would be happy with, and I copied that post here.
What we have here..........is a failure to communicate the truth!
When Chang told the big whoppers back in 2011, 12 and 13, the shareholder didn't give a rats ass thus handed vplm carte blanche to go right ahead and tell the same kind of lies for the next 10-12 yrs.............so they did.......and the shareholders STILL let them slide. Vplm asked the s/h's to be gifted a nice shiny perpetually stocked ATM and the nice s/h's granted vplm's request.
Oh, and by the way, regards their being confused as to who the CFO is, reminds me.....do you remember long ago when they posted the picture of who was supposed to be one of the BOD members but instead posted some other unknown guy?
To be fair.....I have to disagree because how else do you raise tons of cash to maintain and keep.on keepin on regardless of the legitimacy of the company? Legit or not, dilution is the way to keep it going. And if it WAS a legit play, dilution is still the way to roll, if you don't have sellable product. They used to have sellable products and an alleged voip service providing company but they threw that all under the bus............guess why??