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The dots are lining up for Goggles.
To be certain you have to know what the 'meeting of the minds' were at the time the contract was negotiated & signed and any related communicatons thereafter.... and although there are just a few tidbits of hints... various dots being connected seem to indicate there will be some clear sailing for LQMT.
See MTA, 10a, https://contracts.onecle.com/liquidmetal/apple-transaction-2010-08-05.shtml
"The hinges themselves aren’t considered CE until they are used as a component in a CE device. It is all black and white in both the PLA and MTA for any serious investor to read, Nina".
EXACTLY... seems to be the 'meeting of the minds'.
Most people that are able to see the big picture feel that it has nothing to do with prison time...
Thats funny... as if somebody in his position would do such a thing right now, which only a complete idiot would do based on the many variables that have been lining up.
If that is the best that can be attacked .... then that report is even more valuable now than it was before your post .... The report is drawing potential correlations and connected dots.... so why leave any out that could become even more relevant over time?? Good to see you were productive in questioning .00001 of the report.
Well if I was a betting man I would say that my connected dots indicate that our friend and great contributor JayBiscuit was responsible for that document..... and of course in addition to JayBiscuit (presumably) taking the time to put the 'milestone chronology' together ....... along with all of JayBiscuits great, great research ...... there were many others who also spent their precious time providing some of their own top-notch research, opinions and tidbits that were contained in that document ..... and collectively everyone working to provide an incredible trail of information and insight. It is an awesome way to help others, especially those like myself who are not 'material' / technical guys and gals..... because that level of detail is really much needed with an investment such as this .... and it is what helps 'add the glue' to the connected dots for a more logical and straight-forward assessment for people like myself... ... Thanks so much to all those who have taken the time to contribute their research, knowhow etc...
If you understand pioneering ...you understand trade shows aren't always to necessarily sell somethng.. but can primarily be to gather important information..... just like many other things that may not make sense to those who do not understand the pioneering process .......and yet the dots keep on rolling and connecting ....
Things are lining up well .... Dots are connecting nicely and quietly... And once it starts with a drizzle here and there.... it won't take long to turn into a monsoon.
That is Hilarious Tomcat... Best thing to do for the time being is turn your monitor upside down until we give you a 'shout-out' to flip it back right side up...
If the first significant news is to come from Apple.... then most people understand the consequences of having any spec of a hint or leak of any kind in advance of a public release.... Very severe consequences so no person or company would risk violating this ... Also there has been so many false alarms historically (over the past decade) that a great majority will just be waiting for the first sign of some really huge volume, even if they have to pay much higher prices. But these are also the circumstances that create huge gaps up, especially since 9 cents is fairly close to zero ... For somebody that loves these types of scenarios, they already have huge positions and will be adding with increased volume...... and for those who don't understand these type scenarios or don't believe the mountain of connected dots... then they will either be buying at far greater multiples.... or realizing that they missed the boat completely along with a rare chance of a lifetime. It is also obvious that there are plans in the not too distant future to be accounting for something.
Exactly and if LQMT was a scam they would be hyping stuff up versus keeping their mouth shut until they have something legitimate to tell shareholders. Shady concepts, and anyone who promotes them, are never tied to logic, reasoning, facts, truth or CONNECTED DOTS.
For the Smart material oriented techies & Researchers on these boards that have been so helpful and generous providing great information (which everyone knows who they are by now) .... with Apple being in the process of making a big splash with the ‘Spatial Computing Glasses’ before this summer hits …… are there any hunches for the 'SCG's being something that could incorporate Liquidmetal (even on a very small fractional basis)? Seems like most of the new SCG versions that will soon be making it to the mainstream in the very near future are much more advanced and far different than the ones just a few years ago .... and therefore in conjunction with the other technologial advances such as the 5G innovations etc I don't have the smarts like many of ya'll to connect these kind of material related dots, and I know I have missed lots of posts also. Supposedly, this emerging product category of SCG devices will gradually be replacing a lot of the markets / marketshare of the SmartPhones, PC's and Tablets.
Yes ... Extremely Profitable and low risk ... [as long as the contract lawyers are the very best / most educated / most experienced in this new industry].
If the first significant news is to come from Apple.... then most people understand the consequences of having any spec of a hint or leak of any kind in advance of a public release.... Very severe consequences so no person or company would risk violating this ... Also there has been so many false alarms historically (over the past decade) that a great majority will just be waiting for the first sign of some really huge volume, even if they have to pay much higher prices. But these are also the circumstances that create huge gaps up, especially since 9 cents is fairly close to zero ... For somebody that loves these types of scenarios, they already have huge positions and will be adding with increased volume...... and for those who don't understand these type scenarios or don't believe the mountain of connected dots... then they will either be buying at far greater multiples.... or realizing that they missed the boat completely along with a rare chance of a lifetime. It is also obvious that there are plans in the not too distant future to be accounting for something.
Good stuff JayBiscuit...
If you are going to assume there is no interest by a Japan High Tech ..... then you should also assume there is no interest or such vibes being emitted by LQMT that they are interested in such an idea .... Of course it is a 2-way street so how could your idea / thoughts benefit LQMT if they absolutely know they are holding some pretty valuable cards ?? Maybe that is good positioning and reasoning on LQMT’s part ....
Yes much agreed.. The thing I liked most about the Accounting Firm development is that it is a very reputable Accounting firm that does not have any spec of history related to covering up scams... Most definitely a great connected dot... And why are they becoming more focused on Accounting unless there is soon to be something to account for.
Good one Researchfyi
Awesome 'Almosthere' ...... and hopefully soon it will be 'Allthere'.
Why .. So he can try to guess at contracts and then be called a scam artist when it doesn't work out as he had guesstimated ??? Just look at the last 100,000 posts to get an idea of why he has been smart to reign in all the guessing..... which in turn is based on the best guesses of the 'early adopters' as to their expected future orders. It will start to get fun when the contracts start being announced ..... and it will get really fun when the tide shifts and the whales are all trying to get through the 'order door' at the same time ...
I would be willing to bet that YOUR version of explaining this type of history (as if it is NOT typical when hardworking people are doing their best to pioneer a new industry) is solely due to YOUR lack of understanding that the pioneers of a new product or new product class.... let alone an entire new industry ..... are VERY hardworking people who are NEVER in control until the larger repeat orders begin to happen by the 'early adopters'. So anything expressed by LQMT employees etc prior to that time is almost always because the 'Early Adopters' were/are 'working them' (while they could) ...... and I feel it just so happens that Li is smart enough to understand all of these things (that can only come back to haunt you) ....... and this is why there is so much confidentiality because Li does have a conscience and does have the necessary experience & savvy..... and therefore does not want any 'hype' or 'empty promises' implied by the 'early adopters' (as a means of 'working' the circumstances to get more freebies etc) to be disseminated by LQMT employees UNTIL there are signed contracts .... And why telegraph anything to anyone until there is an actual contract since it can never help and can only hurt, especially in these pioneering situations. All of these type things should be understood before bashing those who are on the front lines of the pioneering process and you should be thankful that Li put a stop to what was taking place in prior years because publicly communicating the 'hype type stuff' (which almost always stems from the 'early adopters' trying to 'work' the innovators / suppliers like LQMT... to get more & more favors and freebies) can never help and can only hurt your credibility.
Since it is Dec 14th.... it seems pretty obvious the that next two weeks are more about 2021 and 2022 tax considerations versus anything else..... unless there was some type of mega-news.
Starting in the first grade and continuing through 12th grade and even college...... oftentimes students all across the country and world do not do well simply because they never learn how to collect & understand the most important and relative facts & details as a first step in education; and then they totally ignore the second step of education which is the proper application of that knowledge to logic, reasoning and 'connecting the necessary dots' that result in wise decisions versus repeated failures. Perhaps this is the same journey you have been on.
Seems like smart moves .. Get some some diversity with smaller incremental business which helps create some leverage and stability for not only being able to fine tune glitches.... but also helps to negotiate larger customers and orders.
Nope... just simply get educated first so you understand what is relevant and what isn't. Hint.. what is most relevant is what has been taking place in the most recent few years (versus a decade or so ago) ..... and it is very easy to understand if you spend your time wisely.
The 'fundamental updates' are best exemplified on a regular basis by those who show their lack of intelligence by choosing to stay uninformed.
Exactly... It is hard to think people can be that clueless.... and thus serves to confirm that the agenda rolls on. A true long.... or rational person..... would never spend a decade or more (24/7) looking to turn every positive into a negative...
Funny response. The reason is that MANY things, collectively, have progressed light years ahead from where they where between THEN and NOW...
Exactly.. I challenge anybody to show us any instance where Li has compromised his integrity or conscience.... and if nobody can provide such information then everyone should be confident that they are in good hands... It is really very simple .... Li is not spending his time and money trying to create the perfect scam... He is putting his time, money, energy and heart into his objective of helping to create a new industry....
...typo.... until some huge REPEAT orders begin to land across several niches.
It seems to me that Proof of Concept among several different niches is in process at a much faster pace and for far bigger deals than were happening previously... and therefore I feel they should continue to maintain their flexibility until some huge orders begin to land across several niches.. The whale 'early adopters' will be in control until greater adoption takes place .... and they will remain in the drivers seat within each respective niche until there is much greater adoption .... and the adoption can accelerate very rapidly once the tide shifts and the whales realize they must get in line for order fulfilment.
Fortunately for me ... I can relate (but on a much smaller scale) what they are going through so I understand perfectly the justification and required strategy for keeping as much Confidential as is possible and THAT STRATEGY being in the absolute best interest of all shareholders..... so to me what is going on is business as usual, especially when you are a very small company in the scheme of things trying to maintain the leverage against much bigger companies that you have worked decades to acquire and maintain.
Exactly... I don't think any executive would be speaking in this manner if they already knew they would be unloading 'doom & gloom' at the stockholders meeting.
Exactly
You say > "The only justification for not relaying this sooner would be to maintain the share price at around a dime where it’s been for the last two years while they negotiate the terms of a potential closure and sale of any assets including mutually shared IP."
Please explain how stringing this out provides any benefit ??? ... especially when the liability & downside of that scenario is weighed. Considering the circumstances, their Know-how, relationships and the acceleration of this new mega industry ... the chances of announcing some type of shut-down such as this seems as likely as them being bought out for $100 per share. Just saying.... there is zero logic to that scenario .... And with such a huge industry as this, there are hundreds of niches that can develop fairly quickly and therefore to make Shareholders really happy all LQMT would need is a few of those niches to do really well. So you don't trust Tony / the situation and you have still remained invested in the stock ????
Yes... that is a good reply .... but if that were the case all the many accelerating 'connected dots' pointing to the opposite have to be totally discounted ..... and then what would have been the point of LQMT ever remaining active for all these additional years along with the new developments....... Savvy businessmen such as Li and the others involved at the top of this 'new food chain' have a vested interest in creating multiple sources of leverage and diversifying the control across the widest spectrum of entities. If this pioneering effort was a single product then I would say it could easily be a scam ... but being an entire new industry that is being pioneered, the odds of a scam seem to be similar to winning the lottery about 10 times in a row. Most people get paranoid simply because they don't understand the pioneering process..... and for those people .... that is why I mentioned that maybe the easiest way to get the best feel on whether you have been scammed or not is to look deeply into Li's past and decide whether you feel he has a big conscience... and if so then you are probably pretty safe in your investment.... and if you feel he has no conscience or a so-so conscience then the risk goes up accordingly ... I think almost everything you find about Li indicates he has a big conscience ........ and people with big consciences don't care if there is a trillion dollars on the line because their conscience is something more valuable to them. And keeping a very clear conscience almost always provides a person with extraordinary instincts, intuition & initiative for making the very best forward-looking decisions. It is typically the kind of people you want to invest in ... and of course there is always a chance that there is a breakdown in morals ..... but in that case if you feel your conscience is very clear then you can bet on that as to whether you have made the right investment or not
I understand why you feel it is an appropriate warning.... but based on the circumstances and all facts, details and the new industry rolling out etc.... that scenario seems to be as plausible as Santa Claus taking control of LQMT. So it is your belief that there is a possibility that 5 or 6 months in advance LQMT is going to telegraph / acknowledge to shareholders .... that once the news is ultimately revealed they just wanted the shareholders to feel tricked for those 5 or 6 months ?? ..... (i.e. since LQMT could have easily just broke the bad, Doomsday news to shareholders 5 or 6 months earlier ....).... but instead management enjoyed the sick thoughts of tricking all the shareholders)?? To me that makes about as much sense as a crooked Presidential candidate announcing 5 or 6 months in advance that their plans to win the Presidency are to implement well orchestrated corruption that will take place with the help of other countries ... Then when it actually happens they have already proven how crooked they are ... Is that what you really feel is a possibility ??? .... They want shareholders to be patient for 5 or 6 months and then feel tricked that they weren't just simply told the doomsday news 5 or 6 months earlier ???
Based on the circumstances and all facts, details and the new industry rolling out etc.... that scenario seems to be as plausible as Santa Claus taking control of LQMT. Let me see if I understand the hypothesis ..... You are saying that there is a possibility that 5 or 6 months in advance they are going to telegraph to shareholders 5 or 6 months in advance that once the news is revealed they have tricked the shareholders for those 5 or 6 months ?? ..... since they could have easily just broke the bad news to shareholders 5 or 6 months earlier .... (and therefore the shareholders learn in retrospect that they could have been told this doomsday news 5 or 6 months earlier...... but instead management enjoyed the sick thoughts of tricking all the shareholders)?? To me that makes about as much sense as a crooked Presidential candidate announcing 5 or 6 months in advance that their plans to win the Presidency are to implement well orchestrated corruption that will take place with the help of other countries ... Then when it actually happens they have already proven how crooked they are... Is that what you really feel is a possibility ??? .... They want shareholders to be patient for 5 or 6 months and then feel tricked that they weren't just simply told the doomsday news 5 or 6 months earlier ???
Exactly.... a ''diamond in the rough'...... and it just takes a little logic and common sense to connect the dots.... and the connected dots all favor a huge payoff.