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What else is a fact?
It hit. 002 today!!
Some act like its a surprise.
Nope.. those that own SFRX knew this day was coming all along.
Its amazing its not higher. I mean whomever is selling this low must not know what is in the works.
Go SFRX
THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING.. WAITing FOR A PRESS RELEASE SOON
SFRX will have HUGE success. It has been in the works for several years. Its time to get the best revenge.
Success!
Now is the time to buy... Once we get this permit then...
Its what we all have been waiting for.
Go SFRX
There is an update on the way!
As it was stated there is a window on how long the state can take to respond. Its supposed to be 90 days...
However when did those 90 days start? Its questionable however i expect there will be great news in a matter of 15-20 more days according to adding 90 days to the last ammendment. (my calculations)
The bottom line is in a short amount of time we will have our permit. I beleive that its going to happen because!
They have had several application amended already. 3 from my count. Working with the state on coordinates, finincials, and lots of "other" requests.
There has not been any more requests about changes to the permit besides the last email from mary several months ago.
It was mentioned several times that getting a permit is not "rocket science" so i assume it wont be too hard to solidify.
Hang in there SFRX shareholders. Our day is coming very soon.
If its so important then why doesn't somebody depose him? Lol
As far as i am concerned there is no record of him saying he was not the archeologist for SFRX..????????????
Is there a document that says that?
Maybe this unknown company by Sinclair forged his signature. Its not hard to find his signature. That is a possibility?
We cant know that for sure!
What we do know for sure is that email from Mary is authentic correct?
If that email is authentic then we should assume that his explanation of the situation to be true and valid.
Further there is attachment with his signature verifying that he IS the archeologist for SFRX.
Go SFRX.. Says a lot to have a man defend his position with SFRX.. He surely has no doubt in the company he wants to be associated with.
He is DA MAN!
I stand by Sinclair...
It shows true character to challenge the man and his written word!
And I quote him further
"As a matter of information, I do not have association with Atlantic Resources. In fact I do not know who they are. I am in NO CONTRACT WITH THEM so if you could please clarify who they are AND adjust your records to reflect I am NOT INVOLVED WITH THEM. I would appreciate it"
Jim Sinclair
I love the written word!
As for a bombshell I as a novice have learned a lot from recent posts.
I really learned that now is a good time to invest because it's at a great POS (price of stock) lol
I also learned that once two sides have been presented that SFRX is going off the deep end soon... Diving that is. PERMIT PENDING INTO SEVERAL APPLICATIONS AND MONTHS. Shouldn't be long now.
That there has been lots of recent inquires to the state by investor and inquires as Mary stated. I wonder what the HE/She inquires were for. If I had to speculate probably to put together some brilliant posts on how Kyle is a stand up guy obviously fighting for the company and it's shareholders. Go Kyle we all appreciate you and your tenacity.
That SFRX finincials are up to par with state requiments to fund the explorations. They might not show significant worth now, but I see significant potential. That is why I invested.
I realize I am optimistic..
for that I am not sorry. I am sure optimism is a good thing to have when investing into a treasure hunting company as some have called it... However I am glad SFRX has the knowledge to preserve history at the same time.
Again I am a novice, but even Novices like me can see the potential.
Go SFRX GOD BLESS
I do not think Kyle is afraid of anything. Some just accused him of bulling... now he is supposed to be scared.. Lol make up your mind.
I will mention again SFRX is the Plantiff in this case.
Top bad too sorry Huffman is a kick butt attorney. He should make an example of Volentine. I am sure he got letters to seize and desist. I mean how hard is it just to say your peice and move on.. right?
If an individual keep poking the bees nest you might just get stung on your retreat.
In addition I do not think there is anything that this company is hiding. It's under a microscope as of right now and what is the result?
The result is the pending permit (proven) is on the way. The trail has been followed and soon will be dived on. The stock price as a judge Stephens predicted will increase exponentially showing all the speculation was just that.
Now is the time to invest. Soon SFRX WILL HAVE ITS DAY TO CELEBRATE!
You know what I read when i see this.
I see Kyle a man with passion. I see Kyle a man that is taking a stance for stockholders.
Not to metion that Mary said "
(e.g. Farmer)" I wonder who this is? Is he a investor? If not I wonder why non investors are requesting information from Mary? Just seems odd that he was mentioned like he was a regular or something? Maybe one sided!
Sometimes it's the little details in a report that have the biggest tale!
I have learned a lot about both sides of the coin today.
It's hard to paint the whole picture of the company when certain things are cherry picked and misunderstood from novices like me. However when you put all the peices together with both sides
It appears that things are right on track for success. We have the buffer, finincials, and into several applications. It shouldn't be long now. Especially with a CEO requesting meetings, making phone calls, and relaying investors anticipation.
It's good to be optimistic. Go SFRX
https://www.scribd.com/doc/315780399/Kyle-Wanted-a-Meeting-March-2016
"I listened to 30 minutes of Kennedy apologizing for all the investors and other inquiries into his company (e.g. Farmer) and how he is suing all of them, yet the questions have been reasonable. My impression is that these are veiled threats, and if we do not fall into line, he will sue us. He threatened Roger last summer and is trying to bully us now."
I am telling you it may take time to get the perfect permit. (as we know)
It may take time to get treasure on deck (as we know).
This company like any other treasure hunting company is a risk. SFRX is though in my opinion more than just a treasure hunting company! They do care about the history of their finds. As much as we Stockholders want treasure on deck they want to do it responsibly.
They want to preserve.
I am 100% sure that the FBAR loves the fact that they have the leading archeologists in the world. Divers that are retired military. If anyone could get prop wash deflectors modified to their permit it would be SFRX.
FBAR have been and will be working with SFRX for obtaining this permit. As stated there is "red tape" involved. With all the applications.. They probably have more red tape due to the inquires, depositions, email requests, and who knows what other road blocks have been put in place by those who oppose them. They probably have more red tape, BUT they will prevail. They will take the passion that is sometimes clouded by politics and FIND History.
What about this? Sure seems like a solid company to create archeological scholarships. I wonder if other companies invest into our future?
Seafarer Marine Science Awarded Scholarships for 2015
Posted on June 23, 2015 in:
East Hampton, NY, June 11, 2015 –(PR.com)– The National Foundation for Marine Sciences has announced today that it has awarded the Seafarer Marine Science Scholarships for 2015. The Scholarships have been awarded to graduating high school seniors who will be pursuing careers in marine science and related fields. This year’s recipients are from New York and Florida. The Scholarship is named for the Seafarer Exploration Corp (Stock Symbol: SFRX), a company focused on archaeologically sensitive exploration, research and recovery of historic shipwrecks. Seafarer has provided the majority of the funding that makes the scholarships possible.
I do think that SFRX could do a better job at keeping us informed, however I do not think they misinform us either.
Correct me if I am wrong but there is lots of emails from Mary with questions about information on the pending permit?
So there is a pending permit!
Again I will ask where is Kyle's response emails? Why can't we follow the whole trail? It is continued to be thrown in our faces all the "alleged" conversations but when I ask for any responses in written format from Kyle it's not available? How is that? Is it because the real answers not the "alleged" answers would not fit a agenda?
Let's see all the information!
It is assumed that lenders have such power to make a post on a community board and that is all supposed to be from SFRX and held account to be "official'?
You know what I want to see. I want to see Kyle email responses. It's amazing to me that we only have emails from Mary when she explicitly said she would rather have written word. Where is the other side of the coin?
If we had that information maybe the answers about the permit would be easier to conclude.
Where is Kyle responses?. Let's follow the trail!
I can understand that there is some conflict of opinion in this litigation lawsuit. However that is why it goes in front of a judge and is made for a court. NOT a message board.
However whether you are wrong or you are right will not be concluded on this board!
That point we should both agree on.
I firmly believe that Kyle does know about salvage law!
Unless I am missing something here this board is about a company he owns. If it was not for SFRX none of us would even be on this board. However KYLE is supposed to be the ignorant one. I highly doubt it!
I am sure if anyone had as much knowledge as him they would spend their time applying for permits, running a SEC organization, and communicating with the state on the best approach that leads to success.
It's easy to analyize 2600 pages of documents from 6 years or more, and point out every mistake in an email communication. It's a Whole other story running a business that requires salvage law and knowledge of day to day operations. Again unless I am missing something here millions of shares are bought lots of days. Including recent days.
I will say it again with that many documents (2600 or more from 8 years) that were probably never intended for a microscope view on a message board you probably can conclude ones own opinion about anything. It is firmly my opinion that Kyle is doing EVERYTHING he can to make SFRX a success. Is it a risk? Hell yes. One calculated that risk vs the return. If I wanted something safe I would have bought apple. Not that that is a guarantee either.
Just sayin. Can't we let this play out. It appears there is a lot of talk about what exactly? My posts (opinion) got turned around into cullision by the company and state . Seriously. Wow!
Here is what I read.
First thing that should be Understood. IS logical but since this letter is picked apart. It's between KYLE AND MARY!
This CORRESPONDENCE is directly related to the current pending permit as it talks about changing coordinates to be within the valid agreement with HTQ.
Because it talks SPECIFICALLY about the permit Mary prefers email as written record but that makes perfect sense. Not that Mary has or has not spoken with Kyle on this matter before the email was composed. So it makes sense that there is lots of ALLEGED phone calls that were not documented. So perhaps the phone call about the three items did take place.
With it common knowledge that SFRX is in litigation and I am sure everyone wants to make sure that BEFORE the permit is granted that is will be approved. As Mary takes the time to point out the specific coordinates, the specific clause between HTQ, and other information to create a success.
In my opinion from this one email you can see that Mary and Kyle have a great professional relationship that reflect looking after one another by making sure each other has their butts covered. Hey you never know this email might end up on a message board or something. Lol.
As a investor I would rather wait and get a perfect permit that has all its p's and q's dotted and signed. This could be a huge find and the last thing we need is any opposition later in the find. Not that SFRX has any opposition of value or anything. Right. Lol
So in conclusion it's obvious again that SFRX has permits pending, current valid permits and is working diligently with FBAR and Mary to watch over each other's Butts and get this permit done correctly.
God bless SFRX
I am sure glad to learn
But yes, many of the documents are 6 years old and older!
AND OLDER... WOW! I Think looking into 6-8 years old information; I would be AMAZED to find if there were no mistakes, miscommunication, and "language" issues. In reality I am sure Kyle never thought any persons would review that much of data when he communicatied with individuals.
I just for fun reviewed the last 7 days of my emails. I found lots of spelling errors. I found some emails that were misworded and misunderstood. So several emails took place to clarify the situation. Most importantly it took me like 2 hours. And that was just for a week. How much time to review 2800 pages 6 years and older.
I wonder if just specific emails will be brought to light that will not show the whole story. I am sure with that much data anything can be concluded if it's picked apart with an agenda.
The fact is though SFRX or any other company has not found the missing 1715 fleet yet. It's been over 300 years and nothing. I do find some peace knowing a company has spent over 8 years looking is closer to finding a treasure ship then anyone else.
First running a company for that long is hard enough let alone running a company following strict SEC guidelines. I have not delt with FBAR but I have been dealing with insurance companies for years. They are always changing their "lingo"... They lost applications I submitted several times. They have been through different management with different agendas. The bottom line is
Business goes on.
We learn from mistakes.
We continue to make mistakes
Business goes on.
Some may say mistakes makes you a liar
Some may say mistakes make you ignorant.
If it was not for my mistakes I would not be where I am today. I am so grateful for those mistakes because it created HUGE success in my world.
I am 100% sure Kyle made mistakes in 2800 pages of emails. I am certain that the FBAR has also lost applications, miscommunicatied, and has had different priorities in 6 years or more.
I am also certain that business goes on at SFRX... AS WE ALL KNOW THEY HAVE PERMITS NOW AND PERMITS PENDING. ALSO CURRENT FININCIALS ARE UP TO DATE WITH STATE EXPECTATIONS.
Everything else is WHAT you want to make of it.
Business goes on. GO SFRX
2600 pages of emails and other info from the state. Let's see what I can 'dig and identify" because I am not sure I know how the difference between "recovery" and "dig and identify" is. maybe there is some "treasure" in there. Because now I know no one can guarantee a conversation from "treasure" to anything else. I sure hope I can remember all this stuff since my memory is bad and most of this information is years old. I might even schedule a meeting with the state to go over this stuff.. I sure hope I remembered to notify them before I show up. It am so deep involved in this post I don't even remember why I am posting all this stuff. I guess I am trying to make things right like it makes a difference to anyone years later. Right?
As I stated and everyone on this board agrees. FBAR had never denied any permit to SFRX. also further no oneone can disagree with the fact that there are permits pending.
So why don't we have the permit yet? Great question. I can assume it has something very real to do with the fact that FBAR is very busy. Is that an excuse. I don't think so but I am sure SFRX is doing everything in its power to complete the permit. Why wouldn't they.
You have read lots of hype about the last deposition. Now what do you read about it? In my opinion the deposition proved the fact that SFRX has valid finincials and valid permits AND pending permits. So if I was a fly on the wall j would not be to intimidated. Especially if the defense "helper" is a twice barred attorney on felony probation.
I sell insurance and have questions regularly to other agents and sometimes my wording is rushed or misinterpreted. I think we all have had mistakes in wording. Not that that is an excuse if some wants to manipulate that comment. However if we knew 2600 pages of email and "written word" were going to be read with a fine tooth comb MAYBE I would proofread more. Just sayin.
In my opinion most of the bashing on this stock has to do more with the defense trying to defend themselves. Because as if right now FBAR has not denied any permits. Has worked with KYLE with some wording issues. Those issues are years old and have not effected the current future of stock.
For example the three items. Is the state asking questions about them? Nope. So who cares. The wording using "treasure". We use that word all the time. Is that a good description although may not be the correct terminology. Sure maybe. Either way if it was not brought up on boards by NON shareholders would it ever be brought up? I highly doubt it.
Have faith in SFRX I do and good things will come in the near future. It's been over 300 years since some "treasure" ships have been underwater. It could be anytime now they are discovered.
c'mon, can't he man up and take that risk off the table?
That is exactly what we thought when we learned that the attorney representing the defendant is a Felon on probation.
Maybe he misread his qualifications. Maybe it said 1 more items is needed to be "permanently" disbarred as an attorney.
When he tried to hide his identity at the deposition did they not think he would be called out?
Was V_____ aware that his attorney was a fraud and make a correction. Doest he risk credibility with his case?
What if he got a felony probation for stealing thousands and thousands of dollars from people like V______ "helping" him with legal proceedings.
I know he wants to get this removed from his record but Cmon a TWICE barred attorney. A lot of Risk to take for a non stockholder!
HERE ARE some facts...
Roger Smith is NO LONGER IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING AT THE STATE.
TIM SAID IN THE DEPOSITION SFRX MET ALL STATE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS
MARY SAID IN DEPOSITION THAT SFRX HAS PERMITS NOW AND PENDING PERMITS
HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE
Why are these questions asked? They are questions perhaps a twice barred attorney would ask BUT
This board is not a courtroom
None of us are part of a jury
The judge is not present.
Perhaps we should Send these questions to the attorney defending the POS in the present case. You know the twice barred attorney that is on FELONY PROBATION.
THE bottom line is it appears that NOTHING in the past has hindered any progress now or in the future. As I stated Facts before. The STATE is not asking any questions. SEC is not asking any questions. So why should anyone care about these OPINIONS..
Anyone on this board is open to make opinions but I beleive the point has been made. Over two years worth of points. When is kicking a dead horse enough. The horse is dead and can no longer speak. So give it a break!
Sooo the other company (SFRX) leaked the fact that the defendant is using a TWICE disbarred attorney CURRENTLY ON FELONY PROBATION for stealing thousands and thousands of dollars to defend the defendant. That is supposed to be just written off as convicts occasionally defend other convicts. WOW.
As far as I see it you can spin whatever you want but you CAN NOT tell me that these statements are false.. Can anyone?
SFRX has current permits AND pending permits from the state. So whatever is said about SFRX about the past is fine. BUT they have a hell of a future.
SFRX had not been denied the permit that we are all waiting for and will receive!
FBAR has never accused SFRX of using blowers or violating any permit!
I have been a shareholder for close to two years and I do not see how these 3 items are revelant to SFRX future. I see them getting the permits needed as they followed the trail, AND no need to go backwards to advancing previous permits to a recovery or salvage status. They have moved on AND have pending permits.
There is continued accusations of a SEC investigations.. However there is not ANY investigation by the SEC. Some may hope their is one but I hope I win the lottery too. That does not mean it will ever happen.
Some people on these boards have made good points. Points that could be true. However kicking a dead horse will not make the answers come out of nowhere. All I am saying as certain items seem to be brought up daily with no answers. How many times does a question need to be asked before a point is made. 3 times 5 times. I am sure 100's of times might be overkill. Just sayin
God bless SFRX AND ITS SHAREHOLDERS.
Actually it went really well for SFRX THURSDAY.
IT proved that KYLE caught a mistake that was filed with the SEC. THE ONE mistake was not necessarily important BECAUSE THE REPORT reflected the CORRECT POSITION of the company if you look at the report in its ENTIRETY. I realize how you like to take a small part and make it look so big.
Can you PROVE that this report was never amended?
Can you prove that this mistake was done with intention to deceive?
In the deposition there WAS NEVER any mention of the Gold coins...
Show me in the deposition that there WAS mention of the gold coins/platter? If it was so important why didn't anyone care? You assuming again?
You show me that it WAS filed anywhere that JIM SINCLAIR found the coins. Can you show us how SFRX reported HIM spefically? If not who cares. I did not find the gold coins either. Do you want an email from me too.
You show me any information that is from the state.. that ACCUSES SFRX OF Violation of ANY PERMIT? Or they are DENIED ANY PERMIT?
WHAT conversation are you saying Mary denied anything? Did you get this from the deposition Thursday. I can Tell you Mary said for SURE SFRX has several permits AND permits pending. Not alleged for Sure!
CAN YOU show us that the SEC has any pending investigations or is that an assumption too?
The TRUTH IS.. THE DEPOSITIONS WENT REALLY WELL For SFRX. You can not prove anything except some assumptions. Let's see that transcript in its entirety. Not the parts you pick apart smallcapsmarket. I doubt you will want to prove yourself wrong
The most important part of what you wrote here Raider IS
"IF WHAT YOU POSTED IS CORRECT!"
Why should we question IF WHAT?
IT is TRUTH or it FALSE. Period
I understand that in smallcapsmarket report that he reports his version of the truth BUT he clearly is making assumptions on the repercussions.
IS THERE ANY PERMITS THAT WERE DENIED?
IS THERE A PENDING SEC INVESTIGATION
IS THE SEC HALTING TRADING?
I KNOW ALL those answers are FALSE. I am sure you are going to try to reword the same information you always reword.
But the real question is NOT WHAT WE CAN ASSUME.
What is the truth is
FBAR has pending permits.
What is truth
There is NO SEC investigation.
Can you object to these statements? I didn't think so!
Go SFRX... I am sure things went well with the depositions yesterday. Time to move on to some treasure hunting. I am such a happy shareholder. I see forward momentum with their stock price because this company has soooo much potential.
Do I have a link? No but I am sure I can't find a link that your local gas station is getting another shippment of gasoline next month either. Some things are just implied by the nature of being and staying in business. As far as I know seafarers still operational.
This is a "Treasure hunting company" some of us are analyzing them like they are selling a product. Any investor in this company did not invest for any other reason except for hope and luck. Hope that despite how they conduct their financial affairs that they will have some luck. If they have any luck at all on finding ships that have been confirmed never found who cares what their financials says. Stocks will only sell for what people are willing to buy for. So Cheer up and think positive. It's amazing how that can change a person perspective on a situation. If you don't like what's going on you can sell or invest your time/money into something else that is positive to your life. It's all a choice. "Correction does much, but encouragement does more"
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe