>>Can't wait for some of the bigger fish to come around.<<

b9molecule, as I wrote in my earlier response:

"And I certainly expect other big miners to get onto the bandwagon as BHP must have clearly identified a competitive advantage using "our" product, which should not be a surprise and others will want to level the playing field by using the same."

The future looks bright even if the current quarter might not yield all of what this contract will give due to delivery timing.

Cheers

b9molecule -

on the revenue estimate at least for this quarter I'd be a bit more cautious as the release said BHP released the orders, at least that's how I interpret the wording ("The first product releases issued by BHP have been for value in excess of $5 million in the past 7 weeks"). And then the question would be when those orders go out the door and therefore are accounted as revenue. But I don't really care as the overall picture stays the same and would only influence WHEN the earnings manifest, not IF.

And I certainly expect other big miners to get onto the bandwagon as BHP must have clearly identified a competitive advantage using "our" product, which should not be a surprise and others will want to level the playing field by using the same.

Great times ahead, just wish it would have happened on Wednesday as I already had made up my mind to double my position on Tuesday with huge gains taken on another stock last week but the PS ran away from me and I didn't want to buy already far into the run without doing some more thinking, oh well!

Cheers and may we all enjoy the fruits of our tenacity in sticking with the company.

b9molecule -

you're absolutely right!. Don't know what I was thinking...

Only reason I was asking was that as long as your PS is plugged in and not switched off it supplies the current to the motherboard (even if you shut down the computer) and you would not encounter the problem even if your battery is gone (not physically, of course). So just wanted to confirm the diagnosis.

It's usually one of the 'silver button" batteries also found in watches and held by a clamp well visible close to the CMOS. There's only one of them. Did you have the power supply shut off when you turned off the computer and went away? Or turned off the power strip it was plugged in (or the UPS)?

Newly2b,

sounds like your buffer battery on the motherboard is shot.

I'm in it for the long haul as well for all the reasons you just wrote down and even before the second mill. I kept averaging down at the previous ridiculously low levels and own now 50,000 shares at an $0.36 average and am thinking of increasing my position with profits I've taken recently in another stock even though it would increase my average share price and I usually don't "avg up". This is my second largest position in my portfolio. The only thing keeping me from doing this is that I normally don't like being in stocks with very low volume but the story is intriguing.

Best of luck to all!!!

The highest volume was 520,161 on 3/19/2009 courtesy of Pinksheets

And just to be thorough here are the 20 highest volume days:

Date Open High Low Close Volume
3/19/2009 0.115 0.125 0.066 0.099 520,161
11/17/2008 0.18 0.18 0.09 0.15 452,389
8/15/2008 0.45 0.5 0.421 0.5 347,065
11/21/2008 0.095 0.15 0.08 0.095 338,112
11/19/2008 0.13 0.14 0.091 0.12 279,879
4/24/2009 0.05 0.089 0.04 0.04 253,916
8/6/2008 0.46 0.46 0.44 0.45 247,790
11/20/2008 0.12 0.12 0.09 0.095 246,349
7/16/2008 0.37 0.7 0.37 0.39 231,970
11/16/2007 0.59 0.63 0.49 0.5 228,300
5/15/2008 0.4 0.44 0.38 0.4 220,037
10/3/2007 0.7 0.73 0.7 0.73 214,373
4/2/2008 0.31 0.4 0.27 0.4 213,009
5/11/2009 0.11 0.15 0.11 0.13 204,861
8/19/2008 0.49 0.52 0.46 0.5 196,468
8/21/2009 0.09 0.1 0.09 0.09 192,000
10/2/2007 0.67 0.72 0.67 0.7 189,931
9/3/2009 0.09 0.09 0.073 0.079 188,900
4/8/2009 0.0899 0.0899 0.08 0.08 186,000
11/13/2008 0.2 0.22 0.16 0.22 183,801

Novicetrader -

guess you got your answer now. So glad I sold around 0.66 and am out for now though I still believe in the company's products. But they need to get their finances squared away to go anywhere and a demotion to the OTCBB will hamper investment interests and makes them prone to MM games with diminishing volumea and transparency into the true L2 and L3 gets lost.

Hey Rawnoc -

welcome here. I've been averaging down since the pre-scandal days and finally have a good shot at making some dough. $2 would really work for me

OT: Don't know whether to laugh or slap my hands together in desperation. This is funny yet very possible in the not so distant future. Nice find....

Oh, the things one can do on the internet.... but sometimes things can get away, too.....

Admit it -

you've been to the CARS.gov web site and got hijacked

It would be so much easier to live in a world where everyone would wear their intentions (good or bad) on a sleeve so you wouldn't have to waste energy finding out what those intentions are but rather spend that energy to either support the intention (if it's good for you) or fight it.

Rose,

I did not want to downplay the possibilities this could open if indeed the intention of the government was to use all its capabilities to harness the existing info on those computers but it would not be forever and all times as the other part not emphasized was this applies only "while logged into" the .gov system. This is just good security on the governments part (as any decent company would do allowing VPN access to their corporate computer systems) and I surely appreciate this as I would not want viruses potentially existing on these dealer computers to infiltrate the gov computers or someone maliciously using these dealer computers to gain unwanted access to gov computers.
Should the agreement used been more specific for this particular purpose instead of using their general VPN access policy for gov employees, absolutely, but in this instance I trust the gov that there was no ill intention (though there might be other cases far less obvious where this is the case) and being skeptical of any org in power is a healthy thing.

Did you try it yourself? Did you notice the difference in appearance of the site when you first get there (hint: it's green background). Only when you click on the dealers button it switches to the blue background and even then it still does not bring up the privacy agreement. You actually have to try to log in to get to that point which is what he did and he could not have gotten any further as he is no accredited dealer.

And I fault him for not emphasizing that it is the dealers ONLY section (but that would have taken away from the sensationalism instead of sound journalism).

Oh, and BTW, they conveniently say, don't try this at home, and not right now as anybody doing so would immediately find out that it all is blatantly false generalization to instill fear of this government (which in some cases is warranted, but not here) to serve whatever they're corporate agenda is (whether it is as simple as ratings or politically motivated).

Despite their (unwarranted) warning why don't you go onto cars.gov and try yourself and you'll find that you're not confronted with any of this. And yes, he does mention at the very beginning of his actual demonstration that a DEALER logs on to the site and this is a different part of the site only DEALERS have access to after registering (well, it's actually part of the registering process for DEALERS so they know what they are getting into). But as far as I could gather now is that this was a mistake in the first place as this is the standard privacy statement that the government uses for employees using smart phones or other devices (like computers at home) to access the government network from home/away and that is very legitimate for security reasons and shouldn't have been used for this purpose. BTW, any company doing so has similar rules for accessing their intranet via VPN...

Did anybody pay attention to the fact that they talked about a dealer logging into the system to claim reimbursement for the clunker for cash program and NOT a private citizen visiting the web site to get information about the program (big difference). It's this kind of propaganda that FOX is famous for that leads to widespread rumors across the internet where all of a sudden this turns into a fact. Now, I still agree that the dealer might be concerned about the information on the system that they are using to log in. But to say every citizen is endangered when going onto cars.gov is pure nonsense and I can't believe you guys here just fell for it. Doesn't anyone doubt what the news media like FOX tells you?

So that's what the new software was for.....

Can you imagine this in ballparks, how much fun this could be in slow moving ball games and baseball is all about knowing your sport! This could be quite a revenue stream depending how they set it up.


http://www.stadiatech.com/5686


Interactive Mobile Phone Games Interview With Artificial Life CEO, Berhard Schoneburg

Today Berhard Schoneburg, CEO of Artificial Life took time out to answer our questions on interactive mobile phone games for stadiums. Here is that interview:

Q. What is Artificial Life and MoPA-TV™?

I founded Artificial Life, Inc. in 1993 to develop intelligent avatar
internet-based applications for the banking and insurance industry. In 2001, we shifted the overall focus to mobile entertainment content and have since become a leader in broadband 3G, iPhone games, and mobile entertainment software development. Our applications are currently sold worldwide.

One of our latest projects is MoPA-TV™, which stands for “mobile participation television” (www.mopatv.com). It is a system that supports interactive show formats, which allow the viewer the opportunity to be a participant on a live TV show at any location, or even in a live outdoor event! This technology allows viewers to see themselves in the show in real time and to be represented in the form of avatars. This innovative format and technology is very versatile and is not limited to television formats; in fact, anywhere with a large screen and group of mobile phone users, such as a concert or sporting event is perfect for MoPA-TV! In order to participate, contestants shall use their mobile phones to register first and create a personalized avatar, which will represent them in the virtual environment of the show. Once the simple registration is completed, the show can begin with different rounds of questions, which require participants to text in the right answers. Those who text in the correct answers can stay; whereas those who text in the wrong answers will be eliminated.

One of the distinctive features of MoPA-TV is that the virtual environment that contains all of the contestants’ avatars can be easily navigated through in real time. Everyone will have a chance to see their own avatars on the screen! The environment can support as many as 500,000 concurrent live participants.

MoPA-TV Bayern Munich

As a recent development, we implemented MoPA-TV to entertain the fans of FC Bayern Munich at their home arena, the Allianz Arena, which allowed fans to create their own professional football avatars and to show off their knowledge of the elite sporting event. After the last question, the avatar who demonstrated the most knowledge of the event was honored, with a stadium of people cheering him on.

Q. What are the benefits for stadiums to use interactive mobile games?

Provision of interactive mobile game services will become a unique feature of the stadium, which attractsthe attention of potential advertisersand retains the spectators. Having something as fun and simple to use as MoPA-TV will differentiate the stadium from other venues, and be able to engage spectators to the extent that no one has achieved before! Usually, the event organizer does not have much knowledge about the spectators except for their basic information,
such as credit card number, address, and name given when they purchase the event ticket. However, with our system, the event organizer can now obtain the demographics and consumers’ interests of these “silent” spectators by engaging them in various interactive games. This invaluable data can be used for cross-selling and up-selling by the organizers / advertisers; it can also provide detailed insights for advertisers. Needless to say, the system enhances the overall spectators’ experiences in the venue, as it provides fun games for spectators to kill time during breaks. Therefore, it is truly a win-win situation for all parties involved!

Q. What are the benefits for spectators to use interactive mobile games?

Interactive mobile games are a fun and easy way to keep everyone entertained in the venue during breaks. Keeping the fans happy enhances the overall impression of the event and the value of the ticket!

Q. How will live interactive mobile games for sports events develop over the next five years?

We foresee that it will be getting more and more popular. For any live event, there are always times when the spectators are waiting, and we find that simple and easy interactive gaming is the perfect way to keep them entertained. Another reason we anticipate interactive mobile games to grow is that mobile marketing has become more influential and is widely recognized by advertisers as a way to reach the younger generations. However, the marketing means are still somewhat limited (SMS / MMS / WAP landing pages). We therefore provide mobile marketers with an innovative platform which is direct, yet convenient to expose their brands to their target audience.

Besides, it also gives the shy spectators excitement - finally, they can “see themselves on TV” without having the cameraman spotting them out among the crowd and catching them unguarded!

It's already 119 now just within this day and only been on the market since end of last year whereas many others been around for quite a while longer...

Stockplucks -

so you are the one holding some of my shares now. I sold the 40000, which were actually leftover of initially 50000 which I had offered at 0.06 but only 10000 filled so I lowered the ask to 0.05 and the MMs did not show the lowest ask either all along but 0.08 for most of the time and then filled the order at 0.06 and 0.05 in two separate trades as already described.

I've given up on this as the risk is too high for me with the pinks looming (if there is no buyout) and I rather took the steep loss (already sold another 500000 yesterday at 0.06 as well. Lost 70% on this, oh well... this way I got at least $6000 of my initial $15000 back and ready to invest somewhere else.

RAWNOC, wish I could share your optimism and wish you all the best of luck (and maybe I'll be sorry selling now, and maybe not...)

Shouldn't be longer than the end of the month and then it's off to the Pinksheets as they don't plan on filing a 10K as stated in the press release....

I'm still here and added to my position yesterday & today

SAM -

I agree with you there, but in times of peril companies are extremely cost conscious, which means they pay far more attention to what they are getting for the money and here, again AYSI is superior to any other supplier. And, although further expansions are unlikely at the moment, current operations require replacement of equipment and that is not going away.

BHP stated in RAWNOC's re-post of a Jan 20th article that Zinc and iron ore productions were up 35% (partly due to better grades) and 5% partly due to expansions. Those companies go about their business as planned if expansions promise better efficiency and therefore better margins and will temporarily shut down inefficient productions.

One other point that was not mentioned at all is that, if I recall correctly, the 2nd mill is supposed to operate more efficiently so the company could start operating the 2nd mill only increasing their margin during these tough times.

Just my two cents and trying to show two sides of each coin.

DH -

I agree with you on the possibility of turn-over of finished goods. I just wonder whether the strong increase of raw materials is due to an existing or anticipated order for next quarter or trying to take advantage of lower material costs due to the downturn in the industry and anticipation of a subsequent recovery of raw material prices (otherwise the "dead" capital and associated losses would not make sense).

I like to think that the anticipation of orders (or existing orders) is the prevailing reasons referring to the 10K where the following statement was made:
<<Future cash flows from sales are anticipated to be sufficient to sustain the Company's operations.>>

Rawnoc -

them burning through cash at the same rate as last quarter is unrealistic as management has proven prudent in the past. Finished goods actually decreased by $20,000 to $765,000 which is presumably still due to a postponed (but not canceled as far as we know) order and the rest is raw materials of $1,564,000 to be used for upcoming production. If the orders would further slow down the cash flow could become virtually zero (relatively speaking) as fixed costs are low and if no or little production occurs only very little cash is needed (personnel, fixed facilities) as no new material needs to be acquired.

I'm not taking sides nor have I made up my mind whether to further invest or not (I only have a small position in this stock bought at $0.79 a little while ago with winnings during the big upturn, meaning "free" shares). I just don't share your POS point of view in your black-and-white fashion. There is always room for interpretation and that is true for any argument you and other people here on this board bring up for AYSI or VBDG.

Truth is, none of us have the full picture and therefore there is room for speculation and that's what most of the arguments are based on (even though they are based on historic data), nevertheless they are speculation and will remain so until they turn historic with the next quarterly report.

Rawnoc -

what would make the 4th fiscal quarter different from the 2nd quarter where they "burnt" through $900,000 which was half of their cash of the 1st Q only to increase cash position on the 3rd Q.

Negative cash flow seems to be associated with high production levels as timing of book keeping seems to cause those fluctuations.

Just food for thought and not arguing for a positive of negative outcome. We'll all have to wait for the 1st Q report on that.

Just wanted to say you can't always go just by some numbers and say they tell all there is.

And as for insider buying: if I'd own 62.5% of the company and 74% overall as insider holding and the fact that the float is already very small I wouldn't do any more insider buying as well to not even more adversely affect the price fluctuations we experience already.

As for the line of credit available to the company, if needed, there is no reliable information. I would assume that they have a revolving line of credit to address short term needs and I also seem to recall that an available line of credit was mentioned once with regard to the 2nd mill construction but might be wrong as I can't seem to find this tidbit anymore and can't recall where I saw it.

Cheers

You misunderstood due to me not being clear, I wasn't comparing the two stocks or putting them into the same category for performance. Just wanted to mention VBDG as you are referencing it often and I was intrigued except for the low volume and associated risks in general (like taking profits of any significance when the daily volume is just a few hundred to a few thousand dollars on a good day)

To me that leaves the speculation of who is really manipulating the market which is true for any low volume OTCBB stock. The same worries me about VBDG with even lower volume than AYSI.

This is not to take away from any of the many valid arguments posted by some here for either side. Just means with the low volume the MMs have the real say.

Reality on an OTCBB is that the MMs determine timing of trades no matter what the buy or sell orders are at any given time. Even the Level II data are nothing like on bigger exchanges and only reflect what the MMs want you to see. They have no obligation to show the real demand on either side (if I recall correctly and I might be mistaken)

Looks to me like two parties tried to "paint to tape" as the trades showed the same time and the .411 for 100 shares just happened to be listed first and the 300 shares for .50 listed last. Could have gone either way....

Can somebody answer the following question:

Was the traditional weak winter quarter due to the about one month shutdown and thus not being able to keep up with demand or a weaker seasonal demand? If the former is true then this year should be different as we have more inventory to fall back onto to sell while having reduced production and therefore would also reduce inventory.

Am I missing something?

Rawnoc -

what about that inventory being reduced during the traditional shutdown month maintaining a higher level of sales than in previous years at lower production costs as they have been accounted for in previous quarters mediating the historic weak quarter effect.

Cheers

Hi Tom,

nice to see you're still lurking.

The annual reports and the last quarterlies looked pretty good and being profitable in this semi environment might have something to do with it. I'm glad I kept averaging down as prices deteriorated. I just believed the company would pull through. Now it's just a matter of time to get back on a decent exchange.

Cheers

Is that because of a conviction or "contempt of court", anybody know?

Should have paid closer attention to the last one to see that they start their business year in October. When someone was mentioning the 3rd Quarter I just assumed they would be talking about the business year not the calendar year...

Thanks

Why would they get delisted unless they would stop filing the required QSBs and there is no indication they would do that.

littlefish -

the 10QSB would have to be filed by 11/15 for the 3rd quarter results but that could be done without an explicit PR, still would be the latest update we can expect as they normally do not file late.

Losing a few thou can do that to ya....