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Neither do I but that was not my point.
Besides, MGPs are FAR more harmful than MGBs, especially for newbies.
Just have a look at what they did, and are still doing full out, in THIS stock...
I am getting REALLY TIRED of your using this board as a vehicle for your personal obsession and vendetta.
It is WAY too late to "avoid the lawyers," in fact, as per TODAY's PR:
"Mr. Vucicevich has insisted all documentation and communication involving Mr. Vucicevich, SLJB shareholders, transfer agent, and all other parties involved regarding SLJB be provided to our attorneys for their review"
Also, I hear that these folks are VERY aware of what is discussed on this board.
Oustanding job. However I am VERY surprised, I'd say even shocked, not to see any reference whatsoever to the man who I and many others are 99% sure is behind the recent SLJB disaster and the multiple, sophisticated schemes perpetrated since the Lotfwerks days.
BEFORE #1 the relevant questions would be:
Has, or will, the Board Of Directors examine in great detail the doings of Andrew DeVries, former SLJB CEO Petar Vucicevich's best friend and business partner, and report to shareholders, and specifically when?
What, if any, are the current business connections between Mr. DeVries and any and all Sulja-related companies or subsidiaries?
Very tired here. There's more to it and hopefully others will chime in, but I must insist that this subject matter is CENTRAL AND CRITICAL to the current crisis. We all know that the Sulja family has had a very cozy relationship with the "evil twins" for years, but I believe that they have now (very wisely) realized that the damage has been so great that their good name (see DD post # 180256), all their holdings, and the financial future of their families are in a very dangerous place.
For those who do NOT know, Andrew DeVries is not your ordinary con man. Like Andrew Fastow's at ENRON, his schemes have been lethal to the well-being and financial bottom line of countless thousands of shareholders and families (tens of millions of dollars from Nannaco shareholders alone) and if he is still involved in ANY way, well...
The Suljas are now at the proverbial crossroads. The absence or clear, unequivocal answers to the questions above would most certainly tell the world which way they decided to go. (And the world is watching very, very closely.)
Incorrect. "Director General" is a direct translation of a term used worldwide and roughly equivalent to CEO. I do not know if he grew up in Serbia or Canada but the former would make sense.
Do not forget that as far as SLJB goes, this Petar Vucicevich crook also held the title of Chairman of the Board. NOT a small detail given the situation.
Zorro can neverbe held captive for very long... surprised to hear that LOL.
Been in a long time too, nice to break free indeed.
Yessssss!! Air! I need air! I can stop holding my breath. ...For five minutes anyway.
Gig's wife
1millionfl ? Very busy with that hedge fund right now.
BAN snips007 NOW, PLEASE!
This is the last straw. Now why wouldn't you want shareholders to go and pay a visit to these cons uh?
You just showed a little too much of your hand this time. NO doubt where you stand, whatsoever. I would encourage fellow posters to also have a close look at your unbelieveable pumping, and systematic refusal to reply to questions even in dire times like right now.
When I was told, way back, that you were Sam Sulja playing the dumb-and-always-positive type here, I had a hard time believing it.
Now I do.
POST OF THE DAY.
I live very far away but if you live in driveable distance I would URGE you to go in person and demand answers from these crooks. I sure would.
You told me you know the name of that organization, ditto for the auditor.
Wouldn't this be a good time to share with fellow shareholders, before there's NOTHING left?
DD was then deleted, systematically, or posters banned.
Be it in real losses or paper losses, we are now collectively out of millions of dollars.
You are also 100% correct about the "enablers".
Lots of hurt and damage has been done.
Thank you. In and accumulating since last Spring at .02, I had forgotten to include this in the post and just updated it.
Now perhaps some here can get this to the Sulja family? I doubt they realize how sullied their name is already.
SULJA = FRAUD = CONS ? (SLJB Due Diligence, updated)
Remember what you think when you hear the word ENRON now? Well the name Sulja is VERY CLOSE to ringing alike.
Those who know me know I rarely post public but I repeat... NO WAY THIS IS A ONE MAN SCHEME. From careful DD, observation (and simple common sense at times, I say at times because I am a bagholder like many of you, in since .02 back in the Spring) I believe that we have at least FOUR con men involved in this scheme:
1) Andrew DeVries = SLJB/Kore/Consultech, etc. mastermind con and well-known crook
Bilked Nannaco shareholders out of tens of millions of dollars. Apparently still owes child support... as much of a lowlife-type as one could imagine. He is the spider of this very tangled web.
2) Petar Vucicevich (DeVries' best buddy) = smooth talking & "flamboyant" con
Former small-time con who badly wants to play with the big boys. Assumes multiple identities both in PRs (Peter Wolfe) and on forums/chat boards. Long-time friend and business partner with Devries (he/they run and own Consultech and Kore, two shady entities that appear to have majority ownership of Sulja and SLJB.) Known scammer and womanizer for many years who is also remarkably convincing at portraying himself as a good "father and family man" when it is useful. Currently Chairman and CEO of SLJB. Drives a Range Rover, a Maserati, etc.
3) Steve Sulja = "positive image" con (put out countless PRs with tremendous hype which facilitated many of the schemes but have not been verified by independant parties. Steve obviously thinks very highly of Petar, here is what he said in his Sept 7 PR:
"Former CEO Steve Sulja, in context to new developments with SLJB, stated today, "I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Petar Vucicevich as the new CEO of Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd. My decision to resign was made after long deliberations with all members of the Sulja board. I feel that Mr. Vucicevich will better serve the direction of this corporation in its international growth. His experience in dealing with companies internationally will surely benefit Sulja Bros. Mr. Vucicevich asked me to stay behind as a consultant during this time and I will gladly accept this position. Mr. Vucicevich has the support of the entire Sulja organization here and abroad, and I ask all shareholders, members of the board and management and clients to show Mr. Vucicevich the same support you had extended to me in the past. I expect great things for Sulja and plan to work closely with Mr. Vucicevich. I believe all shareholders will be pleased with Mr. Vucicevich's professionalism and no nonsense approach. I thank you all again for all your support and wish everyone the best." A spokesperson on behalf of Sulja Bros. stated, "We support Steve's decision to resign in favour of Mr. Vucicevich and look forward to working closely with him in his new capacity."
4) Sam Sulja = professional stock trader con (works right across the hallway from Vucicevich in Kore office.)
I cannot believe that some here still look at Steve Sulja as a savior or somebody who was screwed like us, or such. Had he not issued all those unbelievable PRs - which if we ever get AFs we would almost certainly see wouldn't be confirmed by actual contracts and revenues - THE WHOLE SETUP FROM THE LOFTWERKS DAYS WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED.
Both in Windsor/Colchester, Canada and across the world through the Internet with one million page views per day recently on this site alone, the end result of this awful mess pretty much is:
SULJA, DEVRIES, VUCICEVICH = CONS = FRAUD
Yes, just like we automatically think: ENRON = FRAUD. Now imagine that a John Enron had started that company out... Can you imagine what he, his wife, their kids would have to go through FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES? Don't believe me? Ask the many honest, decent guys out there who also happen to be called OJ Simpson...
This is obviously a nightmare-type situation for anybody who would actually care about their reputation. IF I am wrong about the Suljas (and believe me, I truly hope I am) and IF they really do care about both our families' huge financial losses and about RESTORING THEIR GOOD NAME, we will VERY quickly see them retake control, publish AFs (even poor Audited Financials would triple or quadruple the SLJB Market Cap in just a few days) and IMMEDIATELY name a new, honest CEO.
Absolutely NOTHING short of that will do to clear their name, in fact, doing nothing would show that they were in on the scheme all along. The ball is in their court now.
PLEASE READ! (repost)
Folks,
I have had over 110 shareholders, representing nearly 26 million shares, email me in support of my proposition to demand access to the books of SLJB pursuant to NRS 78.257 of Title 7 - Business Associations; Securities; Commodities.
As mentioned in my previous posts, under this provision of Nevada law, if a shareholder (or group of shareholders) controls 15% of outstanding stock of a company, they can demand access to a company's records.
We presently have approximately 5% of outstanding shares behind this initiative. Please help out! Let's force PV's hand and get access to those AFs! Please email me at sljbfinancials@gmail.com with your name and current shareholding if you would like to support this cause.
If and when we get close to 75 million shares, I will post an authorization for everyone to execute appointing an attorney (it could be me or such other persons as we can direct) to demand access to the records. Once, I have a sufficient number of shares in support of this initiative, we will drive down the 401 to Windsor and find out exactly what is going on.
Please note that although I have indicated in my posts that I am a lawyer in Toronto, I am not acting in my capacity as a lawyer in this regard. I am acting in my capacity as a shareholder. Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice.
Regards,
HB
Posted by: honanboss
In reply to: honanboss who wrote msg# 175595 Date:11/18/2006 1:15:40 PM
Post #of 179191
POST # 176917
... has a bird's view if you are interested GG. It is very late now though and a tremendous amount of damage has already been done.
Hearts need lots of help in this family too, believe me.
Thanks for the reply, be sure to email your share count to honanboss.
Who controls the company? See 176917.
Hang in there friend, we are ALL hurting, and hurting bad.
For the record I and others DID "make these remarks" starting weeks ago but posts were systematically deleted.
After a while I was so disgusted that I completely stopped posting here. All I could do is PM the discussion with a few people I knew.
Very possible. Dennis Amermman I believe is his name.
NO WAY THIS IS A ONE MAN SCHEME. From careful DD, observation (and simple common sense at times) we have at least THREE cons involved:
1) Andrew DeVries = SLJB/Kore/Consultech, etc. mastermind con and well-known crook who bilked Nannaco shareholders out of tens of millions.
2) Petar Vucicevich (DeVries' best buddy) = smooth talking & "flamboyant" con, currently "CEO" of SLJB
3) Steve Sulja = "positive image" con (put out countless PRs with tremendous hype which facilitated many of the schemes but have not been verified by independant parties)
WOW... I cannot believe that some still look at Steve Sulja as a savior or somebody who was screwed like us, or such. Had he not issued all those unbelievable PRs - which if we ever get AFs we would almost certainly see wouldn't be confirmed by actual contracts and revenues - THE WHOLE SETUP FROM THE LOFTWERKS DAYS WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED.
Both in Windsor/Colchester and across the world through the Internet with one million page views per day recently on this site alone, the end result of this awful mess pretty much is:
SULJA = FRAUD & CONS
...just like we automatically think: ENRON = FRAUD
This is obviously a nightmare for anybody who actually cares about their name. IF I am wrong about Steve (and believe me, I truly hope I am) and they really do care about both our families' huge financial losses and about restoring their good name, we will VERY quickly see them retake control, publish AFs (even poor/different AFs that would triple or quadruple the SLJB Market Cap in a few days) and name a new, honest CEO.
Absolutely NOTHING short of that will do. The ball is in their court now.
Andrew DeVries = SLJB/Kore, etc. mastermind con
Petar Vucicevich (best buddy) = smooth talking con, currently "CEO"
Steve Sulja = "positive image" con (put out countless PRs with tremendous hype which facilitated many of the schemes but have not been verified by independant parties)
Those who know me know that I rarely post public, especially on this board.
However I will post this time to say that Dave, aka diggler99 is one of the GOOD GUYS in this awful story, and if he vouches for honanboss so do I.
I have already emailed him our family's shares total, I would URGE you ALL to do the same, whether you own 200 shares or 20 million shares.
RE-TAKE CONTROL, or let the cons win and run with YOUR money.
NOW is the time for us to be heard and get together, or never.
Disclosure: I have been long in this stock and accumulated since .02 levels, way back.
Folks I rarely post public but I just wanted to say it's really nice to see EQBM finally coming out of the gutter (long here.) And did I hear there might be some Chinese Turkey on the Thanksgiving menu?
hold! Hold! Hold... THAT RMDG BAG.
Indeed RMP, indeed...
Can't dilute and buy back at the same time LOL.
Insults and yelling would not have been your reply if you didn't know - or worry - about what I wrote about RMDG, realmuzikplayer.
IF you were such a great friend to INVESTORS here, you would, whenever possible, post your L2 shots, which you have NEVER done.
BTW, is CLYP still on the ask?
Nuff said.
I heard you! And agree. This is huge for ABTG.
500... every single time this insider/pumper has been asked a REAL question he has ignored it, given a BS answer or disappeared for a few days.
Also, I don't know if you're aware of this but the CEO has outright LIED to me and others over this past Spring/Summer, saying that he wasn't diluting when in fact he was printing another billion shares or so. We also heard the usual pass-the-buck accusations of "former management" or "financiers" shorting the stock, etc. when runs were killed.
RMP's timing as far as his appearance on this board couldn't be more transparent, just like the tone of his posts.
NONE of the revenues that were touted since May/June have been PR'd. Our dear brother RMP recently volunteered (a few times) that we should NOW be looking at next year. Wow, how kind of him, we've got some serious teamwork and investor-prepping going on at RMD!
The million dollars raised through the last 504 has vanished and resulted in a pps of .0006 to .0008, which speaks volumes.
There's been so much hyperbole in the PRs that the market is now completely ignoring them.
I would be shocked if they weren't diluting again right now and through the Winter. The RMDG business model does have big potential but I (and my bag of shares LOL) are afraid Slick Willie-Georgio & co have all the markings of a Pinkie Scam.
It's really too bad, this could have been a great company.
This is an great stepping stone indeed. Let us see if ABTG management is up to capitalizing on this trend.
Brink Of Disaster ?
Cargo... Real Meister Pumper seems to have been MIA for a few days.
or 4) this 125 million shares acquisition is no longer in the picture 5) this 125 million shares acquisition is still in the picture but will take far longer than anticipated, based on only 14 mil shares in oct.
Given what we have seen over the last two months I don't think it would be wise to rule these two other possibilities out, although just like you, I'd MUCH prefer #1.
Indeed. But I wouldn't rule out UBSS or SBSH or NITE, although it looks like the latter has been a more of a follower on the bid.
My observation was that when we had a situation where the pps was under strong downward pressure, ABLE stepped up big time and so did UBSS to a lesser extent.
Could be. Volume on the small side though. Tomorrow should tell.
and ABLE about 53 mil shares for the WHOLE YEAR, which puts us VERY far from the 125 mil of SLJB shares they are said to be buying for Wessal.
An important post that has gotten zero attention.
Thanks eliaman.
Is there any doubt by now? He did it just a few months ago LOL.
akj I was away from trading action much of the day but anytime you see CLYP (or ARCA) on the ask for a stock, there's a very high probability that the company is printing shares and diluting behing your back.
Hope this helps.
Yes, the CIK is a very simple thing that SLJB needs.
Looks like another week went by and this hasn't been taken care of.
Thanks. This Form 4 was for 45K more at 0.125 by an ABTG Director for those who don't have time to look it up.
Retracing a bit this week, great time for entry IMHO if you've been sitting on the sidelines.