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This is classic FG/basher talk....anybody that crosses him gets labelled crazy things. FG will turn on you and reveal personal info that was in strict confidence via email and PM if you question him even once. Matt will hear about these tactics FG is running this board by.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
I will pass this on via email, but I am not there to do much more. AND the burden of proof from this claim in on your side not mine. I can't help the boogy man.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, just post the PM, you showed no respect for my PM's so just post the whole darn thing. Why are you all of a sudden being ethical now?!?!?!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
If this was anybody but THE GREAT FG, this crap would be deleted without proof. We all know that and we are all complaining and you show no proof.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
SH, I appologize and won't let it happen again.EOM
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Diverdan, on the back cover? really? That is AWESOME!!!!EOM
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Almost days end and still up 15%.EOM
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Oh give me a break, FG...
Maybe 5 posts in the last 10 months. Some posters get 5 posts a day deleted and nothing happens, so take your threats elsewhere.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, that is bull, many of print's posts got deleted and they had JMHO or something to that effect. Come on, that was a weak explanation for the double standard that has been going on ALL YEAR!!!!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
SecureView will be on Good Morning America Friday!!!!EOM
JMHO, Adam Jordan
SEVU up 20% so far today!!!EOM
JMHO, Adam Jordan
A lot of old issues being brought up all of a sudden were resolved long ago. Why are they being brought up again? FG once defended, now he bashes?!?!?
This board loses all directors then gets FG back who then adds shamus?!?!?! Shamus was born on July 16, 2001 and has a total of 31 posts?!?!?! Hmmmmmmmmm
Is it time to start another more civilized SEVU thread?!?!?!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Rich doesn't have a boat at his house any longer, please keep up with your facts FG. I was there beginning of August and only Jet Ski's there.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Where is a link to the SEC RULE 17(b)????EOM
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Here is the current 10Q link...
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/894536/000110801701500241/seaview10q.htm
Here is previous 10Q link...
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/894536/000110801701500077/seaview.htm
Here is the latest PR link...
http://quicken.excite.com/investments/news/story/bw/?story=/news/stories/bw/20010816/a2352.htm&s...
Here is previous PR link...
http://quicken.excite.com/investments/news/story/bw/?story=/news/stories/bw/20010802/a2341.htm&s...
Here is Form 14C, shareholder meeting link...
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/894536/000110801701500170/seaview14c.htm
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, it is nice to see you have settled down and taken a deep breath. Hopefully we no longer have to butt heads with unsubstatiated accusations as occurred at the end of last week. I kick myself for letting my posts degrade and following along with the "basher mentallity".
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, I was using round figures I as already stated I don't know the exact size. I am not in Florida to take my tape measure to the boats either.
Could we please rename this thread??? It no longer deals with SeaView business or products anymore.
Maybe the bashers should start another thread called "Bash Rich McBride".
JMHO, Adam Jordan
AMEN, HP...I couldn't respond without a TOS violation there!!!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
I believe the CheoyLee is only 80' or something, but hey I am just being picky!!!! I don't remember the exact size of either boat and don't care to ask Rich either. This whole line of discussion is pointless, but normal for you Ken.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
DD, glad to hear the news, simply fabulous exposure for SeaView.
A shame you are treated this way by Ken, but that is nothing new to EVERYBODY on the board. We have to remember Ken hasn't worked at SeaView for quite some time and he was never in the loop anyway. In fact it seems like Ken was played with intentional misinformation and you see where it has gotten.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Ken, it is not 90', but 60' I believe, not that I expect you to use facts anyway.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, good point...
The A@P and you thing and the 5 cent PP was a little weak, but still a rumor I heard from a third party. Just a rumor, but something to make you mad. I don't know how true it is.
My years of project management will be used mostly in the parking lot systems. There really is very little engineering left to do electrically or mechanically on those systems. But remember SeaView is always working on new products and new marktets so engineering design is always needed. As SeaView continues to grow, R&D will continue to grow too.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
But it is not FG's company to run, even though the suggestions are good. FG's ideas do not seem like a bad thing, but this is also beyond our control. The board of directors and CEO make this call.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Good point dk76, amazing how everybody stays away from talking about the SEC investigation. Why in the world hasn't the SEC shutdown this scam??? I just don't understand how a bogous company that has no products (Ken Cook) and commits blatant stock fraud for over a year (FG) can still be operating and trading publically!!!! I guess the business and law world baffles an engineer.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, you are now the liar.
I have a Mechanical Engineering B.S. degree from Purdue University. Go verify that!!!!
See how easy it is for you, FG, to post what post believed believed until this week that was very factual, what a liar you have become!!!!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
MH, like I said, if you have a problem, just call me and we can discuss it as I have nothing to hide.
My qualifications are not your business, but I am very qualified for the engineering and project work they need done.
Since when did SeaView become YOUR company???
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, NO NO NO...post the darn rule 17(b).EOM
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Why did FG choose to speak up now, well it is simply that SeaView wouldn't let some outsiders {un-named of course} make their own PP at 5 cents a share for a total of 40 million shares.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, to help clear this up, please post the link to rule 17(b) so we can all see it for ourselves. I looked for it and couldn't find it again.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, I still respect your research and opinions, but you need to do some more homework...
You and Cronies are getting the shares on CREDIT, because you have only paid 20% of their ridiculously low value and you're guaranteed a firm price of 10 cents for 17 million shares over a substantial period of time... If you'd paid all at once, SEVU would be drawing interest on these funds, instead of you...
You really don't seem to have an IDEA of the troubles you and BoD are in at present, but you'll soon find out... I'll also be publishing how you have constantly STARVED SEVU of operating Cash to finance your personal Projects...
The PP was wrote up as a subscription to slowly finance SeaView if necessary!!!
Please be careful what you publish on who STARVED SEVU, you don't know where money went or where it came from to be able to state who starved who on this venture.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Nice try, FG, but SEC Rule 17(b) is not in violation here. There you go again jumping to conclusions that are not based on fact. If printmail01 would have posted this, you would have deleted in a month ago!!!! Oh how times change in SeaView land!!!!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, your twists are simply not knowing the facts behind the scenes, which I don't expect you to know, hell I don't even know them!!! Your comments on this and Rich being a scam are simply not based on all the facts. SeaView and Rich have chosen to not reveal these except to the SEC and the courts if required. Nobody here really knows the financing that has been put up to keep SeaView debt free and it is none of our business.
I was also puzzled by the heading listing the sales and income numbers while looking at the numbers in the 10Q. I am an engineer and hate how accountants can manipulate numbers, so I don't try to understand it.
Unfortunetaly SeaView and Rich leave themselves open to these 1/2 truth/ 1/2 lies that A@P or FG can manipulate. But, thankfully SeaView is concentrating on making money, which will eventually quiet all this rubish. I truely do understand how this looks, it is easy to question the morals of SeaView and Rich and head down the doubting path, which acts like a snowball rolling downhill. I feel as an engineer I can objectively look at both sides of this nightmare, but unfortunately I am also labelled an insider. Inside information is just that, inside, and that is where it will stay. SeaView, Rich, and I do not share the same doom and gloom you preach, even though that is how you perceive the facts.
You are right that there are some very good questions that need answering, but don't expect anything public. Faith is a very difficult thing and the past 18 months have not been great faith builders!!!! Some people will believe in the company and others will not no matter what proof is given. I am sure somebody will rag on the SEC and cry foul when they find nothing significant wrong with SeaView.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Ok, so you are Ken Cook. I know anybody else associated with SeaView and this board would threaten to hang me by my eyelids for calling them Ken Cook. That is the worst thing I could ever call anybody, Ken Cook.
I did meet a lot of people at SeaView in the Tierra Verde office that I don't remember, names are tough, but faces I remember.
I know JR and I really, really doubt that dk76 is JR. Actually, I am 100% sure.
You say, "Don't go to Florida...." Thanks, but no thanks for the advice Ken, you don't run my or my wife's life. Or was that a threat to me or my family?
You have absolutely NO IDEA of where my confidence lies or my relationship with Rich, absolutely NONE. So don't even begin to act like you know anything, oops forgot that is what you do best.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
My name is not whatever, so pick one and use it....TA, TAfirehawk, Adam, or Adam Jordan is fine.
Even though my employment and relatives are none of anybody's business here, I have no problem telling THE TRUTH when asked, unlike a lot of other anonymous, liar posters here.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
This has got to be Ken, only Ken and printmail bring up old info like this. This is the exact format Ken used to, oops too I mean.
CaseyOne, can't you read financial statements???? Please go back under the rock because the issue with McBride and Associates was cleared up long ago in official filings. I won't even bother getting those links, geesh. GO HOME KEN!!!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
CaseyOne, OH MY GOD, you are so right, amazing...NOT!!!! Give me a break man/woman/it you have no way of proving this one way or the other. Past couple of days FG and myself sure looked like different posters!!! Go play with that one too!!! or is it to!!! or is it two!!!
I am getting my sense of humor back after the mini-vacation I had this weekend.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
OH THANKYOU SO MUCH, CaseyOne. It is TOTALLY (not) clear that this is Christy posting. Gosh, it is so obvious now, THANKS.
This post of yours however is suspect and starts to reveal your identity. This is exactly what Ken Cook did for months. Where is Ken anyway??? Where is printmail??? Change of names maybe???
JMHO, Adam Jordan
gotinearly, I hope everybody reads your post carefully, if not please go back and read it. You have a very good handle on the current situation, unlike most bashers here.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Rich's position is very defendable. You have helped twist the facts to your benefit and most people here do not even have 1/2 the story on this. Just like A@P, a little bit of truth taken here or there and editorial commentary can be combined to create any perception.
SeaView is not helping your cause or Rich's either by being silent. BUT SEAVIEW IS HELPING THE COMPANY SUCEED THE BEST WAY THEY CAN BY NOT STOOPING TO THIS LEVEL AND FOCUSING ON THE BUSINESS
I hope they keep this tight lip except to the SEC and a court of law of course.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
CaseyOne, you are the one suspect around here. You know my name, relation, and employment so what about you??? Can't tell us can you????
JMHO, Adam Jordan