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If you have some details of the financial arrangement between EI and Matthews I would love to see a link.
I think you are right about this....004 to 005 has been the flipper's range before...November 2009
Flippers have said many times recently that the increase in O/S will tank the pps into .000's but IMO the historic pattern has re-established itself. Perhaps the MATW potential is having a counter effect on the O/S increase. I guess we shall see since we have entered a declared "quiet period" which tests the pps.
Funny how flipper's blame Clint for creating bag holders when they are doing the exact same thing. Look who's calling the kettle black. Not that management hasn't helped screw up the pps.
ETNL= O/S 700m A/S 750m
Another 200 million in dilution to go. Why buy 009's when 008's are going to be up soon...maybe even 007's before they are finished.
The train isn't even close to leaving the station yet...IMO
Unless they are sitting on some pretty good news.
Sweet...A little rally going on!
All of that gloom and doom about the 10k was a bunch of BS from flippers trying make a quick buck scaring off investors. Transparent companies report quarterly.
The only real surprise in this 10k is that the 4th quarter marks a turnaround in the right direction as far as revenues go. We still have a long way to go, but are pointed in the right direction and have a new agreement with a major manufacturer that will eclipse 2009 sales (regardless of the accounting methods).
Hours of Operation/Date of Filing
Rule 12 of Regulation S-T provides that electronic filings may be submitted by direct transmission via the Internet, dial-up lines or leased lines to the Commission each business day from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Eastern time. Currently, however, filings may be submitted electronically as early as 6 a.m. Rule 13(a) of Regulation S-T provides that any direct transmission filing that commences after 5:30 p.m. will be dated the following business day. Any direct transmission filing commencing before 5:30 p.m., if accepted, will receive that day's filing date.
Interesting story from last January. I don't recall seeing it posted here. Is Waterloo going to be the manufacturer of EI's college themed caskets too?
The Waterloo factory carries another exclusive product in its funeral supply lineup - metal caskets with licensed logos of Major League Baseball teams.
Waterloo International creates the team-theme caskets by purchasing plain-white, metal caskets and applying logos, team-color handles and fabrics embroidered with team names. It sells three to five per month, with plenty of potential to grow.
"This industry is changing as it's never changed before, because the Baby Boomers are saying, 'I want to go out with style and something that meant something to me,'" Fifer said.
Caskets with university logos will come next, and the company is considering an expansion of the baseball caskets to its corrugated line. Camouflage caskets for hunters are a possibility.
"We're going to start marketing big-time" in the theme caskets, Fifer said.
MLB Caskets
(2000 Caskets x $2000 = $4,000,000) x 5% = $200k
That is more than double our current gross profits for any year so far (except possibly 2009)...and it doesn't include any of the other products in the Matthew's agreement....or the new Gift Division headed by Colapinto.
That is so true...If EI was a scam they would be foolish to go through the time and expense to uplist. The flippers working to steal shares would have little to stand on if EI was not fully reporting.
Becoming transparent (uplist) definitely hurt share value because there were some surprises for investors/traders. I think that information has already been absorbed and is reflected in today's pps.
The 10k for 2009 will bring few (if any) new revelations that will drive pps down further. In fact I really believe 4th quarter 2009 will be the best one for the year and Mathews has already agreed to blow historic sales off the chart once the VOF line is introduced to market.
I agree on 2010 being a great year for EI revenue. Matthews all by itself has entered into an agreement to buy 2000 caskets per year.
The specific number of products that Matthews will repurchase from the Company during a contract year per quarter is:
a. 62 Star Trek Urns (plus an additional 2 units in the fourth quarter);
b. 180 Vatican Observatory Urns;
c. 50 Vatican Observatory bronze memorial pieces; and
d. 500 Vatican Observatory caskets
There are some that will say the gross revenues from this deal don't count due to "accounting" practices because the inventory does not change hands...so all we will see reported for revenue is the net profit. IDK...But I would be pleased with $100 net profit per casket. Not to mention all of the other stuff.
Peeps who spend "all" of their time looking in the "rear view mirror" are going to miss the boat...IMO
What exactly is it that you expect to be divulged about the fourth quarter that will be so devastating?
We already have been given the first nine months of 2009 from the quarterlies. I expect the fourth quarter to be better than the first three. But that is just my opinion. We shall see by tomorrow.
There is still one quarter to go.
This link to Amazon shows "two" pet urns left, so I don't reall know what to believe. Your DD usually only goes skin deep.
AKC Urns at Amazon
So I suppose that little dying kids request a Precious Moments urn to have their ashes placed in after they are incinerated? Kinda doubt it.
Trekies might search for a Star Trek Urn.
Try Google...Bing sucks. Also if you insert too many general terms in your search you will not get a good return from the search engine.
Search "Themed Funerals" in Google...You will find EI all over the first page.
You still don't get it...BRANDING
EI does not market "customized" or "unusual" products...this is a branding concept.
Try searching by brand...
mlb urns
star trek urns
Wow...350 million shares diluted in a couple of months time. That has to lower the historic .001 entry point, just waiting now to see how far.
Can anyone spell N-A-S-C-A-R...What a crock this is....dropped like a bomb. Play money from an ATM machine.
I don't understand the obsessiveness towards converting current share structure back into pre R/S share structure. All that really matters to me is the pps value. I bought shares pre R/S at a price that would be equal to a .08 pps today. I know those shares would need to reach .08 again to break even...duh. I have other purchases that are green right now.
Why I should concentrate on how today's O/S and A/S compare to pre R/S figures when that condition no longer exists? Why do you post that day after day?
If 1/1000 of the US population wanted a MLB urn we would already be in the black...IMO
The way I see this branding concept working is that we are targeting different (social?) markets. We should be thinking about large established markets filled with loyal fanatics. I think mlb urns will be a good line...but maybe not for you or I. Chicago fans are interested enough to dedicate one area of a mausoleum for 280 urns and turn it into a mini Wrigley Field. Those are the fanatics (you called them fools) that we are after.
I bet we could sell a thousand "Grateful Dead" urns over the next few years...but hurry up that is a "dying" breed of fanatics there...LMAO...Deadheads...OMG...Why didn't I think of it before?
Anyway...This is such a new concept to an old traditional industry that a certain amount of market testing should be expected. For me...I am making my decisions from quarter to quarter...looking for revenue trending up and debt/expense trending down. Lawrenzo has done a good job of consolidating the Q info into one post.
I still say if we have product lines that will not perform then we should drop those lines. MLB was a great launch product because it is as American as apple pie (apple pie on steriods...lol)...Is it in our future? I think so, but the results over time are what should be looked at.
Thanks for explaining it "that way"...I had a different opinion about what initiated the run...but I accept you could be right...impossible to prove either way IMO. BTW...what you previously posted was...
I'll keep an eye on Shakerzz, because at least he seems capable of moving the stock and providing some money making opportunities for traders.
So I listened to your advice and I read Shakerzz board...the price of ETNL went down first time he mentioned the stock...so I don't really "get why" he mentions it in the first place...wouldn't he be better off in the long run just keeping his mouth shut? What exactly do you mean with this new revelation?...
"...Shakerzz and those within his inner circle, for they are the one's who front loaded the stock IMO, prior to the move up and in so doing initiating the move..."
It sounds to me like you are saying that shakerzzz colludes with others to influence the price of a stock for their own personal gain...that's not illegal??? You say you'll keep an "eye on Shakerzzz"...but we both have to agree that if that means "watch his board" you would lose money...what do you mean by "keep an eye on Shakerzzz?" If it is not his Board you are keeping an eye on...does that mean you are part of his "inner circle"?
I thought the $10k was for the "promotion" which did absolutely nothing to draw in new investors. In fact I would compare the very first promotional post by Shakerzzz to be about the same as shouting "FIRE" in a crowded room.
I thought the first 8k had a typo...but it is still in this 8k...
as payment in full of principal and accrued interest (a total of $37,000) due on its July 9, 2010, $34,900 Secured Full Recourse Promissory Note with the Lender (the “Note”).
I thought the note would have been dated in 2009. Unless July 9, 2010 is the date the note was due. In whice case EI chose to pay it off 3 months early???
I hate to say it Brendan...but Mid is right. IMO we have to establish proof of the revenue growth to grow the wings that will be needed to escape the gravitational forces of pennyland.
It could happen this year...IMO with the Matthews contract coming and promise of another license...hopefully rolled out in a similar fashion.
Two key documents to look for. The 10k is coming any day and we should get first quarter 2010 not long after that. Look for signs of revenue growth.
The only way this is going to float on air the way you are hoping for is if management will take more responsible and credible actions when it comes to the use of the shares. "I" haven't seen enough signs of management responsibility...so I'm looking for revenue growth in 2010 to be the thing that will ultimately make us all happy.
This retailer is out of cubs urns too! I would be keeping some in stock. That mausoleum in Chicago designed to look like Wrigley field will hold 280 Cubs urns all by itself.
"When you come to a cemetery to visit a loved one it's usually a pretty sad, gloomy situation," he said, standing on the lawn where the wall will be erected. "But when you come here and visit [what looks like] his home away from home ... Wrigley Field, it's going to be a great feeling for people." Mascari, 60, is envisioning something special. There will be a stained-glass scoreboard. And at each of the 280 niches in the wall -- "eternal skyboxes, that's what we call them," he says -- there will be an urn emblazoned with the Cubs logo.
I'm sure Amazon will want to keep the Cubs urns in stock. There is already a Wrigley field theme at a local mausoleum designed just for EI's Chicago Cubs urns. Once those die hard baseball fans figure this out these kinds of things will probably pop up in every major league and spring training city.
Associated Press
mlb news
local Chicago news
ESPN
Awesome...another outlet for our products that I had not yet discovered. Great DD.
I guess if Amazon is out these cubs urns peeps still have a chance to get one if they search hard enough. I only searched the Amazon site because that is where CD said he had seen them for sale just a short time ago. Gone already.
CD...Amazon.com must already be sold out of the cubs urns...The link you posted doesn't work anymore and when I searched the Amazon site they don't come up. I tried "cubs urn"...what did you try? With that Chicago cemetary setting aside an area specially designed for cubs fans those urns will probably be back ordered for awhile.
Amazon is down to their last 4 AKC urns but were lucky enough to get some more ordered to replenish their stock.
2010 looking to bring new revs to EI
Nice cover...lmao
Give up yet???
Excuse me Mr. Titan sir...But I think the credit for good investment advice should go to Mr. Trotts...Not to Mr. Shakerzzz
This is how I see it...Mr. Trotts first posted on Mr. Shakerzzz very own board to BUY ETNL on 2/22 when ETNL closed at 005. Thus...if you had followed Mr. Trotts advice you could have easily doubled your money.
Trotts calls ETNL at 005 on 2/22
Now...your guy...Mr. Shazerzzz...Ouch...He first called the play on 3/8 when the stock closed at 0115. That day we had the highest close of the run. It was 0111 the day before and subpenny everyday since. I think Mr. Shakerzzz brings bad luck. On 3/9 he called a 2x1 play...
ETNL > 2x1 setting up playazzz
I'm confused about the kind of advice Mr. Shakerzzz gives. Cause if he is talking about a 2x1 decline in pps he came close...but I thought it was a pump??? Guess I will just have to keep reading until I understand how all of this works. For now though...I think I would rather take my advice from Mr. Trotts than from Mr. Shakerzzz...or even from you Mr. Titan. EA should have just given the $10k to Mr. Trotts in the first place...instead they flushed it down the toiletzzz...IMO
C'mon CD...Do you really think I give a hoot if people take the time to post a "review" of the AKC urn on Amazon.com. As long as the urns are selling and Amazon keeps ordering more...I am happy. If you would take the time to do better DD you would see that lots of well known products do not have a review posted on Amazon.com. Here is a Sony Vaio laptop with...what's this...NO REVIEW. You've heard of sony...right?
Sony Vaio - OMG no customer review - Sony must be a scam
You posted a link to Amazon.com where AKC urns are for sale and trash the product because there isn't a customer review. That is probably the most shortsighted DD I have ever seen? Makes me wonder about what kind of DD you have done to back up your other posts here. But I do want to thank you this time because there was one bit of important information about the AKC urns on that Amazon link that "you" overlooked...
Only 4 left in stock--order soon (more on the way).
Hurry...Get your AKC urn at Amazon.com.
So everything...and I mean everything I am reading lately points to increased sales for EI in 2010. Good luck uhmmmmm...investing?
Could you explain "how" Shakerzzz moved this stock.
A nice run had already peaked and the stock was retracing when he came on this Board. Check the dates of his promo...compare it to the chart. Shakerzz did nada...except add more damage to ETNL's reputation.
But I'm not blaming that on him. He did what he was paid to do. Well paid...for nothing if you ask me.
No serenity here!
I don't know how the flippers decide to jump back on...I figured it was timed with their recent flocking to this Board. They are like geese...come and go. If they think it will retrace back to .0029's good for them.
Edited...I hope they wait for 0029, miss the bottom and end up chasing it back up. Will be easier to churn their shares.
Actually, given the timing...this toxic loan may very well have been used to help launch the PM line.
You're misreading me Titan.
All of these things you mention (and more) can/are affecting ETNL pps. I've seen the news for MM's, CEO's, IHUB...all under question for illegal or unethical practices. NITE has been fined how many millions? Flipping is just one more thing we have to deal with. It's not a conspiracy theory...it is simply part of the equation. The part that crops it's ugly head about now. Truthfully...I could probably accept flippers if they would make their point "and go away".
I have never said the flippers are "evil" although the practice is just as despicable IMO as some of the things MM's and CEO's do to ruin a stock. Leeches...plain and simple...you "can" knock them off, but if you don't keep moving they will be right back sucking blood again. They trash CEO's for the "wash, rinse and repeat", and many times rightfully so. But they are doing the exact same thing in essence. Tell me how it is any different...CEO and the flipper are both just siphoning money away from peeps who are "trying to invest"...right? What am I missing?...I am still trying to learn.
IMO...The problem starts with the trading system...nothing more than organized crime. MM's can buy and sell for me and you...and buy and sell for themselves...and sell shares they don't even own. And they (FINRA) regulate themselves too!!! BEGGING FOR CORRUPTION. Security trading involves money...money attracts criminals and scoundrels. I guess I just have to accept that the security trading system allows investors to bilk other investors, and blame it all on the CEO (who is probably doing the same damn thing). Thus the term "bagholder". It is what is...I guess...as long as the law isn't being broken. The values of America have gone to hell in a hand basket...good luck to those born in this century!
I'm not really making the connection here. Could you expand on that and "how" it relates to the advice in question?
Do you feel your advice from two years ago is still important today?
Sure post them...as long as they are all from different people. Your statement was that everyone agreed...right?
What I remember some saying is that this is going to be a long term investment to really pay off. I think there is a sea of new and old flippers here right now. Look at the posting history and you will be able to see it too. They started showing up after a 50% retrace with hints of news coming.