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Your best bet would be to wait for SOMETHING to happen. Nothing has happened in months upon months. We flirted with 4s a couple of times, but other than that, this stock is mired in a miserable slump.
Many here provide a ridiculous amount of DD, all of which has done nothing but suck in more people to hang around at .0001, .0002 and .0003 once in a while.
One poster in particular has convinced a few he has a direct line open with Carol Johnson, the CEO. His claims of what will happen in the immediate future have been completely untrue.
Believe nothing you read here about what's "going to happen". The company couldn't care less about the shareholders, provides no updates, is intertwined with many other companies...all owned and run by the same people.
You'll hear talk of HCPC being on the path to being a bank. You'll hear talk of a merger. You'll hear talk about a casino in Reno. You'll hear talk about RELM, CREMEL, ICCC, and other associated companies. You'll read about things that happened in 1994, and ideas that came out years ago.
In the end, it's .0001 x .0002, .0001 x .0003 and once in a while, you might see .0002 x .0003...and that's about it. Basically, if you have extra cash to park and don't particularly care what happens to it, this is a great place.
I agree. That's some fantastic information. And because of all of this, L2 is showing 10 MMs at .0001 and eight MMs at .0003...YES!!!
I hope people here can uncover more DD. So far, it's really done wonders for the PPS.
Does anyone have any info on the former employer of the babysitter for Carol's step-sister? I bet that would send the PPS TO DA MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, barely red, but red nonetheless. Day after day, it goes down and down again.
If the MOASS doesn't come true, we've all wasted a decent amount of time and money.
What about the chart looks amazing?
It certainly did...and now where is it?
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Because if those buys don't knock out that ask, it makes me wonder where those shares are coming from...
A lot of people listen to what you say. With 132 marks, you have quite a following.
Don't you think making the statement of "this one will be running this spring" with absolutely nothing to go on whatsoever is a bit careless?
There is no such thing as a stock being "overdue" for a run.
Is there anything actually pointing you to believe the PPS will go up here this spring?
300,000+ sold at .095 and ETURD's ask of 5000 unchanged.
Bothersome.
What leads you to believe this one will be running this spring?
With volume, something certainly could happen, so long as the company doesn't dilute into the run.
While I'm typing here, could someone please point me in the direction of any information whatsoever that shows anything having to do with HCPC merging with another company in the future. I know they spoke about a London company some time back, but that fell through. Some people, Mr DD Cashflo included, have spoken of another possibility. Show me where anything like that is? Thanks.
Why don't you "slap the ask"?
Fake walls don't stay up for months...lol lol lol lol lol lol
Take out the 3's?
There is a wall of MMs there five deep.
I'm not sure if youse is right, but I think weese will find out then.
Ask them about the merger info...
What's up with all of the name changes? Executive Telecard Corp of Florida? Xelex? Automax Group?
AMENDMENT AND 03/24/2004 04/01/2004 OLD NAME WAS : AUTOMAX GROUP, INC.
NAME CHANGE
AMENDMENT 05/24/2002
AMENDMENT 09/14/2001
NAME CHANGE 02/09/2001 OLD NAME WAS : XELEX CORP.
AMENDMENT
NAME CHANGE 01/13/1997 OLD NAME WAS : EXECUTIVE TELECARD C
AMENDMENT ORP OF FLORIDA
Shouldn't they have done that before they opened their doors...or at least before they went public?
Other than one of them working for the company that the husband of one of the HCPC employees runs, why does "THOMAS AND WILLIAM SHOWN ON DEEDS TOGETHER" matter to HCPC?
Grasping for straws...and coming up empty.
I hope that CREMEL is not the parent company.
It's run by the convicted criminal.
Wow, that's great information. Let me see if I have this correct:
A guy who doesn't work for HCPC has a brother who is a lawyer and specialized in insurance law. Is that correct?
This breakthrough info will send the PPS skyrocketing!
Can't wait for Monday!
I've been asking for info on it for weeks. I've seen nothing about a merger or a reverse merger. People here hit the roof with a mention of negative terms like reverse split or dilution because there is no proof and yet other throw out words like merger and reverse merger with a similar lack of proof and it's fine.
Here are a couple of replies to I got to my last inquiry about the merger:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.asp?msg=28081989
Posted by: Lenderboy
In reply to: Cahalane99 who wrote msg# 47004
Date: 3/31/2008 9:24:50 PM
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Cah, it's circumstantial evidence to be sure, but you got a building that has probably been purchased to house the companies together, and a CEO who controls them all in one way or another. Do the math.
It's my opinion that we'll see some consolidation of operations and workflows. I'm not going to re-hash 4 weeks of postings.
Posted by: Clip Prince
In reply to: Cahalane99 who wrote msg# 47004
Date: 3/31/2008 9:32:06 PM
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www.pinksheets.com Go to the last Q report from relm at the botom of the report is the binding letter of intent for Relm Holdings to purchase Relm Real Estate Holdings From Cremel Group. If that helps
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.asp?msg=28082088
Posted by: Lenderboy
In reply to: Cahalane99 who wrote msg# 47007
Date: 3/31/2008 9:29:44 PM
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We can post all of the significant connections that we like (and there's lot of them), but without company confirmation, they are just hyperbole. We need PRs to prove them.
Based on what I've seen, I'm in. Are you?
I doubt there was much more than conjecture when investors went all in on Bill Gates selling DOS to IBM. I doubt there were PRs.
Take a chance or don't. None of us have PROOOF of anything.
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Basically, as far as anyone here has shown, there is absolutely nothing pointing to anything that has to do with a merger. Zilch. Zero. If someone can produce something relating to HCPC merging with another company, please do.
There is an amazing about of DD here. If this merger info exists, please post it.
Thanks
I've been asking for weeks for proof of anything to do with a merger. I've received nothing.
If there is anything to allude to a merger, please post it. That would be great info.
Merger? Reverse merger? lol
There is nothing whatsoever to suggest anything like that...except the magnificent imaginations of the people here.
And if you guys can figure that out, the PPS is sure to go up.
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As you know (or at least I hope you do), I do not think you have stated an ounce of fraudulent info here. You must know I hold you in high regard here.
There is someone else, as you know (or at least i hope you do), who has made terrific claims of conversations with Carol, of pending PRs, of insider information...none of which has been confirmed or come true. People put all of this faith into what a person claims...with none an ounce of proof behind it.
I understand that people get annoyed with my posts here, but at least what I post is true. It's not like I'm posting ridiculous statements such as:
"I just spoke with Carol and..."
or
"middle of next week for Pr giving details of buyback"
No, Cash, I am not implying that you do this.
Didn't say you were acting silly, Brent. None of my posts attack any individual here.
The person acting silly spent $30 to see it go green for a second or to simply goof off. Completely pointless with the L2 where it is.
Now, if they had painted it green with a 100,000,000 buy, that would make a difference.
It is comical that you read facts as being negative. Someone acts silly, drops $30 at the ask, and people get excited about it.
The 3's that you speak of appear to be a fool buying at ask.
On L2 right now, there are 10 MMs at .0001 for 95,000 and 8 at .0003 for 40,000
All of the 62.7M shares today have been traded at .0002 outside of two tiny buys at 3 (one for 100,000 or $30 and one for 10,000 or $3). It's my guess that the buys at 3 are simply someone thinking their high purchase will set this thing running or someone just wanting to feel good about the stock for a minute.
Either way, the buys at 3 are a total joke.
And in the past 14 years, what have these companies done?
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That's the phone number of the incorporation company, not the one that is registering.
Thanks, Chief. Of course, I've read this a million times it seems. I'll break this down how it appears to me, without "To Da Moon" glasses on:
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"Inaugural Transaction:
ICCC has arranged financing for its first commercial project that is expected to ultimately be put into a BCLOC security. The financing is for the renovation of a small hotel in the amount of $808,000. This transaction is scheduled to close February 22, 2008. A second financing will close in three phases with an independent third-party lender. Phase one is expected to close on February 25, 2008
These closings will have a significant impact on our first quarter financial results, which will be released in mid-April."
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"The closings will have a significant impact" to me says that they won't be as awful as they would have been.
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"Credit market turmoil:
The recent turmoil in the capital credit markets has prompted ICCC to create additional new and innovative ways to adapt to, and absorb the changes in the capital credit markets in order to evolve with, and continue to do business in, this environment. As many of you are aware, there has been a freezing up of the capital markets investment in structured finance products. Because of this development, ICCC will have to portfolio (hold on its books) the transactions it closes until such time as the markets begin to recover.
With these changes come needed upgrades to ICCC’s systems for the servicing, accounting and managing of these transactions. Such upgrades have increased ICCC’s costs which in-turn created a need for capital to meet these increased costs, thus the increases in the authorized and outstanding HCPC share count."
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To me this says, 'Our original plan is out the window and now we're doing what we can to keep from going under.'
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"Share buyback:
As previously announced the company intends to repurchase shares with the revenue from the funding of projects. Changes in the manner of funding, will decrease the upfront fees earned by ICCC, however, ICCC will earn additional interest income from the portfolio it will hold. ICCC will allocate up to 35%of the upfront fees earned to share
buyback and additionally will use a portion of the interest income generated monthly to repurchase stock."
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Great, they will use "up to 35%" of the upfront fees...meaning they could use .0001% of the fees to satisfy this statement. They will also use "a portion" of interest...meaning the same thing.
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"Reverse Stock Split:
It is the viewpoint of management at this time that a reverse stock split without the fundamentals to support a higher price would be harmful to both the Company and our shareholders."
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AKA Tell 'em what they want to hear. It doesn't even come close to saying that they won't do it.
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"We appreciate your comments through your emails and phone calls and to respond, we will provide information in the public
domain as soon as practical."
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To me means: For the love of all things good, please leave Rick alone. We're not going to tell you anything you don't already know, but we want you to continue to feel important.
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"Very truly yours,
G.C. Johnson
Chairman and CEO"
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I'ma still here because when I am away, I miss youse guys. I'm still holding my HCPC stock and hoping something will be different, but at this point (and I get to this point once in a while) I just laugh at it.
We've got a bunch of people that cannot do anything but suggest a share buyback has started. Another crowd continuously announces that they are waiting for news from the company. One guy suggests he has a direct line to Carol and makes claims that NEVER come true. Other spend their time trying to discredit the "bashers", the bashers usually being contributers who merely speak the truth.
Without youse guys, my day would be missing some comedy.
Why do I think they have little money? In 2007, they lost over $700,000. The company pays it's employees in shares. They have borrowed money from Ed the Convict to the tune of over $1,000,000. All of that says to me, "We are not a profitable company yet."
They certainly should have made money on the deals they've completed, but they also have bills to pay (read: operating costs such as rent, utilities, lease for Access).
Where would the money come from to buyback shares?
Want to know a great reason for a company to mention a buyback? To keep people holding and waiting for it. Youse just keep waiting for it.
Want to know a great reason to think it's not going to happen?
The company has very little money. What do youse think of that?
That was one great PR. When can we expect the next one?
Please call Carol at home this weekend and get us some details, ok?
Thanks.
Could you explain why you think a buyback is in progress?
Could you explain where the money to do so is coming from?
Thanks.
Great point Soonergirl. CIRT is listed as #4, however doesn't have nearly as many posts as others. Looks like there are a lot of people watching and waiting...