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Heck, been waiting for over a day now.
Nez
Han,
I still am thinking this situation is screaming something very good at us! If nothing changes, I guess I'll have to walk up as my bids as my confidence is high and I have a feeling something good is developing out there. I don't want to chase! At least down here if I have to it won't be too painful!
JMO,
Nez
Pretty accurate observations Hawk.
JMO,
Nez
OT
If I am reading these forecast maps right, it looks like NOAA believes that the spring - fall temperature forecasts may be hotter than the norm.
I am not a meteorologist but from what I can tell from the maps, we may be in for a hot time and unfortunately, we all know what possibility that creates for kids left on busses.
We have already seen an unusual winter.
JMO,
Nez
FWIW:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead05/poe_index.html
Stock,
Sorry forgot you can't PM. Still haven't found a way to open files.
Can you give me the link or means you used to gather your information from "Thomson Financial" so I can order the "the two regulation D's consisting of 24 pages? Would checking with the SOS possibly be worth while? What do you think? Like I said, "sorry if I was condescending but I am tired of "stale" information," and if the filings you refer to are the ones on the home page in part or total, rest assured, they have been read, re-read and digested.
Thanks for your work?
TIA,
Nez
Han,
In order to demonstrate my ignorance, I have had bids in @ .0012, .0013, .0014 and .0015 since Sunday. I have no idea what is going on barring shenanigans by "them." Just don't know.
Nothing has filled!
What would this indicate? 50,000 - 100,000 are not large enough orders? Heck the spread is not even showing my orders for .0013 and .0014!!!
Just confused but I have my suspicions,
TIA,
Nez
Great job Han,
Nez
OT
Would be even nicer to see some feedback about the Iceland deal or to see PDGT go to the OTC! Just put this up because I think there might be some that have been wondering what the delay was or if it even was going to happen. If I remember right and I'm probably wrong, this was supposed to happen in the beginning of Feb. For those folks anyway, this may be some encouraging news.
I thought the whole idea with the OTCQX was to increase "transparency. Just my opinion but there is already decent level already here.
JMO,
Nez
New York, NY - March 5, 2007 -Pink Sheets, LLC today announced that it has launched two premier market tiers in the U.S.-OTCQX and International OTCQX-for reputable operating companies that wish to create enhanced visibility and respectability with investors.
The OTCQX primary trading PremierQX and PrimeQX designations identify U.S. companies with ongoing business operations that have professional advisors and provide credible disclosure to the marketplace, including U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) compliant financial statements audited annually. International OTCQX offers the International PremierQX or International PrimeQX designations to non-U.S.-based companies listed on a qualified international stock exchange that make their home country disclosure available in English to U.S. investors.
"We are excited to give the OTCQX designation to our initial group of companies that have completed the application process." said Cromwell Coulson, Chairman and CEO of Pink Sheets, LLC. "For some time now, reputable issuers on the Pink Sheets have asked us to find a way to recognize their efforts to provide credible information to investors. OTCQX is our answer to that request with a simple listing process that allows trusted companies to efficiently distinguish themselves. Today, we begin an exciting new market tier that makes it easy for investors to identify and research the companies that are worthy of their consideration."
The Founding Members that commence trading today on OTCQX include:
Computer Services, Inc. (OTCQX: CSVI)
Meritage Hospitality Group, Inc. (OTCQX: MHGU)
Moro Corporation (OTCQX: MRCR)
For International OTCQX, the Founding Members that commence trading today include:
Day Software Holding AG (OTCQX: DYIHY) / (SWX: DAYN)
Globex Mining Enterprises Inc. (OTCQX: GLBXF) / (TSX:GMX)
Wal-Mart de Mexico S.A.B. (OTCQX: WMMVY) / (MSE:WALMEX.V)
"We are currently processing applications from 20 additional companies and we expect to announce several more additions to the OTCQX list over the next few weeks as the companies provide the required disclosure information and complete their DAD review or PAL confirmation," concluded Mr. Coulson.
OTCQX and International OTCQX are new market tiers offered by Pink Sheets, LLC that provide a premier trading, quotation and disclosure venue for the securities of the highest quality companies trading over-the-counter. Companies that have substantial operating businesses and provide credible disclosure to the public may qualify for OTCQX or International OTCQX. Each OTCQX company must nominate a Designated Advisor for Disclosure (DAD) and each International OTCQX company must nominate a Principal American Liaison (PAL) prior to being accepted. Based on the NOMAD model of the London Stock Exchange's Alternative Investment Market (AIM) market, the DAD and PAL advisory roles are designed to bolster investor confidence in the quality and availability of issuer disclosure. For more information about OTCQX and International OTCQX, visit www.otcqx.com.
About Pink Sheets LLC
Pink Sheets, LLC is the leading provider of services, software and financial information for the over-the-counter (OTC) securities markets. Its electronic quotation, trading and disclosure services enhance the efficiency of OTC trading, provide better executions for OTC investors and improve the capital formation process for OTC issuers. For more information, visit the Pink Sheets website at www.pinksheets.com.
FWIW,
I agree. It's like having "The Sword of Damocles" hanging above the stock! LOL
Nez
Stock gil,
I still can't get the links to open but then again if they are what I think, they have been speculated on at length a while ago if memory serves me.
Things are what they are. Everyone who holds shares knows what they are waiting for.
JMO but neither you nor I are adding anything new here. This is just a waste of time and a rehashing of things that obviously don't have sources of information available, as you are looking to BB posts for answers. My advice would be to forget about ATWT and move on. At least let us both not waste others time who may read the board by constantly going over the same information. Nothing we say is going to change anyone's approach to ATWEC.
As far the "negative undertone of your posts goes," I can only tell you that if folks had answers for you then they might post them. Since you "want" your concerns cleared, as we all do, find another method since this one isn't working for you. I think that you should call the company, visit the company or come up with some other type of DD to assuage your fears or to allow you to move on.
Life is too short to waste on a stock that concerns you so.
I don't know how many shares you own but if you own any then I'm sure you can relate.
I still wouldn't assume that just because information is contained in posts on other boards, it is worth worrying about.
I am not going to add anything more here as I already said I won't unless it is new and useful. I, at least, owe that to the board in general. Take care.
JMO,
Nez
Greetings all,
I have been patiently waiting for some developments which didn't turn into arguments or basher fodder.
Been awhile since I contributed anything but here is a link that may indicate we could see some very positive developments, possibly soon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/03/business/worldbusiness/03ethanol.html?ex=1330578000&en=49d2a41...
By the way, does anyone have any information on the "dividend" shares that are still in my account and not yet named or assigned a symbol? It seems if I remember correctly they had something to do with overseas establishments. Its been so long I can't remember. FWIW, my interest has turned back here due to the unavoidable fact faced by the Administration that Ethanol is going to play a large part of our fuel history. The polls are also recognizing this and this can only be a good thing.
I do wish I was able to check out the "divi" shares in case accumulation becomes a good idea which it may already be. Any information will be appreciated.
TIA,
Nez
Stockgill,
Your work is quite voluminous.
I am confused though. I doubt it had anything to do with your eloquent posts but I was a bit disappointed to see that the main source of your effort to "shine the light of truth," on an issue that you seem to be constantly rehashing, is BB sites and your past posts seem to indicate you lean heavily on the "extremely accurate, up to date and un-biased information from, of all places, the RB site. Man I gave up on that one a while ago.
I didn't even know it had timely posts on it.
If you are as interested in investing in ATWEC, as you seem to want us to believe or if you have questions like; "Do they have to file something with the SEC every time they issue stock (even if they are exempted from registration)? (sic)
If so, maybe it's a good idea to ask the SEC for a copy of those documents.
Maybe in light of your great concern you should follow your own advice.
Just a thought since you are so concerned you resort to DD from posts on BBs. I realize there is one link for a site my browser can't get to but when I go to the company's home site, I see there is a $50.00 registration fee. I'm probably wrong and not using my computer correctly but I was able to get to the home page of the company does charge. (Maybe since the cited information is no longer obtainable, it is stale?? JMO)
Since you site page numbers, maybe you could let us know if you bought the alleged report or if someone you personally know shared it with you. At least if we can't get a link that works could we possibly get some information that can be verified, maybe some dates of the cited pages while you're at it.
Don't get me wrong, but your altruistic behavior towards ATWEC is also confusing but it is consistent.
ALL JMO,
Nez
StockBandit,
I hope this request is not out of line as you don't even know who I am or the kind of person I am. I also realize I am being rather presumptuous and forward making such a request. If there was another way to ask, I would do so. If you know of an alternative, please let me know and I will make every effort to use it. Definitely don't feel bound to honor this request.
Just sharing with the board your charts is a very generous action and I know it is appreciated by myself and I'm sure many others.
I like the chart service you use. If you would be so kind as to let me know what the service is, it would be greatly appreciated. If it requires setting up an account I am willing to do so. Also, if there is a kind of "affiliate program" that allows you to benefit from successful referrals; I will make sure you get credit for any participation I may undertake.
If you would prefer to send me an E-mail, I can supply you with a generic address such as Yahoo or even an acquaintance.
I hope you understand, but due to my occasional outspoken posts as well as the usual other common E-mail security concerns, I am reluctant to publicly post my
E-mail address. I hope you understand and also I hope am not putting you in an awkward position. This is the last thing I would want to do.
TIA and with all sincerity,
Nez
P.S. - Don't take this post out of context and look at it as a lame, condescending, attempt to get information for nothing by using seemingly false flattery while being a "suck-up." I don't expect to be treated this way and I make it a point not to treat others this way. I try to live by the "golden rule," you know, "do unto others as you would have others do unto you."
Thanks for you time and GLTY.
OT
DF, IMO, we are in strange times. It seems since the "Homeland Security Act" was past, Benjamin Franklin may have been right when he said; "Any Person Willing To Give Up A Freedom For A Security - Shall Have Neither."
Benjamin Franklin
I hope this is not what we have done since 9/11 but when I hear stories like yours, I have to wonder and again IMO, we should ALL wonder, especially when we go to the voting booth. There must be a way to protect ourselves and country, even during time of war, without giving up our freedoms.
JMO and GLTY,
Nez
Porsche,
I take it that "Dragon Board" has been assigned to you judging from the list of your past posts. I am just curious and realize everyone has to start somewhere when plying or learning a trade but just some most likely wasted advice; you might come off as being more credible if your timing was not so obvious and aligned with the recent successes of Dragon and Board.
Also, it appears unprofessional to use almost the exact wording when posting in the manner you are.
One example would be;
Post 901 PDGT and post 3842 PDVP, have the common sentence fragment: "A trade or 2 away from .0009." (People can analyze your past posts during commercials as I bet there are more similarities in your posting patterns.)
SMAS, RGNO and NXNO, are similarly treated by you while specifically, I mean by name, attempt to take it to Dragon and Han2004fl. The history of success, and truth are beautiful things as they don't change and are impossible to change once they are recorded.
Lastly, as I won't waste any more time on the subject of you, from the quick but obvious look at your present and past posts, which has earned you the 3rd place on my Ignominious, Ignore Honorless Roll , your I-Hub B. Day starts about the time I noticed Dragon and Board beginning to hit them out of the park.
You see, I don't believe in coincidences or clones.
You don't even have the decency to pay for subscriptions while you "trash talk" other's work and those who are paying. This definitely deserves nothing but disdain from decent people who are trying to help out fellow humans.
Heck, Dragon and Friends don't have to share their hard won experience and insights with us and if you don't appreciate the effort, ignore it and maybe go to a political protest or something.
As I said, either you are a newbie professional pessimist (everyone knows the title I mean) or you are just a very, very jealous and angry man. Mind you this is all JMO except the points I raise that are there for all to see under your posting history, again which began about the time Dragon and Friends (I like that better) began hitting the long ball.
JMO,
And thank you for bringing yourself to my attention so blatantly in order that I may place you in the coveted 3rd place, Ignominious, Ignore Honorless Roll spot so I won't waste bits and bites on your ramblings. IMO you are a sad, strange, little person and you have my pity.
JMO and I bid you farewell,
Nez
I'll tell ya, it gave me another "boost in confidence" with this company when I saw the recent (relatively) FS, on 11/28/2006, as well as finding it listed on the "Homeland Defense Stocks & Homeland Security Stocks Directory." Most here are probably aware of this but FWIW and IMO this is excellent coverage, IMO.
http://www.homelanddefensestocks.com/Companies/HomelandDefense/Stock_List.asp#P
If you go through the trouble of checking out the site, make sure you read the "About Us" drop down tab. I know I have found some good plays at this site especially in this day and age.
TTYL,
Nez
I am assuming that the average "test period" for the device is the "30 day money back guarantee" and therefore can we assume that we will learn if Iceland does a deal, will be within or at the end of the 30 day period? I am just wondering, if longs have seen any pattern to like this? I guess it must have been around the 21st since that is the date of the PR about Iceland.
TIA,
Nez
CG,
Glad you caught it! Saves me the PM of thanks!
Nez
Well,
I like what I have come across the last few days here and now I can say I am in. Just a taste but enough to gain a foot hold.
Equipment makes way too much sense as I worked at an airport and this is got to be loved by many security folks. Especially since their jobs are on the line if they miss something.
GLYU,
Nez
I'm listening to my wife's mantra that you don't take a loss until you sell on ATWT. I'll be here till whatever happens.
In the mean time will be lurking and if I find anything interesting will post.
TTYL,
Nez
By the way, I have been waiting for someone to bring up the fact they have been to the real and material company. I would have but coming from one who physically did go to TN, IMO, is far more appropriate.
Nez
Neo,
Talk to you later and IMO it will be sooner rather than later!
Good post, and I may join you if I can resist the temptation!
Nez
Thanks jw.
Nez
No one will confirm or deny that.
JMO,
Nez
Maybe they are combined with another company? This is just speculating on my part.
Was that a buy at 11:45 for 1,605,000???? Or is my level II screwy?
TIA,
Nez
Joker,
In this case, after reading TAKI's post, I think DID jump to the wrong conclusion. Thanks for straightening me out. This is one of the reasons I like I-Hub so much, for the most part one gets honest straightforward answers. Being wrong is not always a bad thing in fact many times it is more productive if one receives accurate correction. I apologize and thanks again.
Nez
Joker,
If this is NOT a legitimate business, then IMO, we all can feel much better as an insurance carrier with far more research resources than we lowly investors, has also been taken. If this were true, I can just imagine all of the attorneys an insurance company like "West Bend" has on retainer. It is as if in this litigious day and age, insurance companies, almost operate based on the involvement of attorneys. I can just imagine all of the junior lawyers fanaticizing about making names for themselves and being able to go into private practice after they prosecute businessmen, professional traders, possibly some brokerages or institutions and who knows which politico if any, for a grand fraud (or something like it) scheme. It has been my unfortunate experience that Insurance Company attorneys are particularly painful and thorough especially if things are a slam dunk or if the proceedings will get photo ops and the like.
If we, the little guys are as concerned as it seems we are, I would be willing to bet my right leg that everything that has gone on between ATEWC since West Bend got involved has been recorded and copied. Also I am sure any politicos that may have become involved have done the same. I don't think we have as much to worry about from a fraudulent scam as we do from those who have put many eggs in one basket and now are willing to take a large loss with the hopes that the money removed from ATWEC will go into a sure thing. this is what will provide the MMs with cheap shares IMO.
IMO, just the fact that there is an insurance company involved (according to its own web site) as well as politicians, this separates ATEWC from the most of the rest of the start ups out there which are on the pinks.
I guess the bottom line is that if this does turn out to be as bad as some think, then there is a good chance we will at least get to go to the trials which will result from the attorney's efforts. LOL
JMO,
Nez
Thanks all,
Nez
Misterfisdit,
Your post and Neo's sums up a good portion of my reasons for staying put and even adding on dips, with in reason. It helped a lot to put my mind into the mode that any money into a pink is "lost money." This allows me to hold until an eventual, definitive outcome.
Every time I lose patience with a stock and sold after I was convinced from DD it was going to make it, after I sold, off it went and it was "would a, could a, should a" time.
FWIW,
Nez
Thanks guys. I e-mailed him in "jail" and if I hear anything useful I'll let you know if it is all right with TAKI. I'll let you all know one way or the other.
Thanks again,
Nez
What the heck is "being in jail?" Doesn't sound good!
Nez
Does anyone have any information on ATWT short positions? I believe someone in the past would occasionally post what the short positions were. Could be wrong but I think it was TAKI.
TIA,
Nez
Joker,
That is another thing, I am trying to pick up some here and even lower but can only get drips and partials.
What is up with that? If there are so many shares available and no one messing with them?
At any rate I'm not going to give up on this as I have too much time and effort invested. Wanted to have more shares but someone is tightfisted, IMO.
JMO,
Nez
RVS,
I am holding my judgment about the up listing because from I have seen indications about problems with the NASDAQ.
I have seen indications that the list, for example of the OTCQX has been moved back, the ability of certain pinks to be seen or traded on the after hours or pre market has also been moved back.
I don't know what is going on but I do know it is not up to the companies that wish to up list as to whether or not the exchange they were told would be up and running now is not.
I might have missed something and if I did I hope someone will straighten me out.
Also, if this was just another "typical Pink," IMO, there would be far less interest by those who have the ability to set the spread.
I was messing around with chart settings today and I plugged in every indicator available and almost all that would give a trader any idea as to what to expect is being held neutral or in some cases actually positive.
I find this unusual and IMO it is not the shareholders who can do this. I could be reading this all wrong too.
ATWT has a good product with a good purpose that is benefiting from actual legislation and is also being helped by the fact that a large, established insurance carrier is not just approving of it but is actively including it in how their policies are priced. I can't find many Pinks in the same position.
Now if the large "short interest" was suddenly to find themselves with a flood of all longs selling, could they expect to make anything if things go that far? If there is no one willing to buy the stock, how can they get rid of all the shares they hold short? I ask this question as I don't know the answer and it has been bothering me. Let me re-phrase this question and invite all to please give me some idea.
If all the longs or share holders suddenly sell and not have any further interest in buying, how would the loss of a market for ATWT shares affect the large short holders? If there is no market then what happens to those who are holding large short positions? I ask as I honestly can't wrap my mind around this.
It seems to me that those short, still need a "demand" for ATWT shares to exist and if one doesn't, how do they get rid of their short positions?
I don't know if this makes sense but if some one out there does understand what I'm trying to say, would you be kind enough to enlighten me because I am at a loss.
I hope this makes sense and if not I apologize,
Still long,
Nez
This is almost too weird for me. One thing is for sure, this stock is different!
Nez
TIGHT. UBSS has it at 11:27,
knotted bid
1 @.0016
1 of the .0017
then
Ask
2 @ .0017
2 @ .0018
1 @ .0019
1 @ .002
1 @ .0022
3 @ .003
Bid
1 @.0016
4 @.0015
1 @.0012
3 @.0011
Nez
RD42,
Was being facetious! I thought someone would pipe-up and accuse me of not being a "team-player" as I thought I remembered people saying others should have been buying at the ask in order to support upward movement.
I believe upward movement will occur when the right circumstances come together. (Lucked out. dentist was just an exam!!!)
JMO,
Nez
OT
Off to the dentist...finally something more fun than watching ATWT.
TTYL and wish me luck,
Nez
Waiting to join you, although not at those levels...I think! Hope .0016< holds or fills. Know I should be hitting the ask but who knows?
Nez