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serf, what more can i do to help, i called this play when it was at .0056, but i never thought the pavc boys would go for a 50 bagger out of the box and then rs at 1:200 to cut trading to almost zero volume, i have notified the sec and maybe the picture i painted is why they have told brokers not to allow buy orders, i did not verify this myself but that is what some have said on this board. imo
serf, fine, and every time some one mentions a short squeeze posibility are you going to delete their post as well, i just call it like i see it, and it's my opinion and i have a right to my opinion just like the pumpers who continue to talk short squeeze b.s., don't get mad at me get made at apoa or is it paiv or is it pavc.
serf, still waiting for the historical charts, all i'm asking is that the charts go back about a yr and they are presplit values for sp and volume, thx, when you put in the time to pull the charts i will run the calcs, it is a favor to you that i would do this, since currently my only role since selling at .22+ is to help newbies do some dd and make sure they do not get pumped into buying this dog until it's back in the subpennies, by the way, my prediction is that will happen within a yr, also, a another merger and name change will occur as part of the play, mark this post.
fway, the post you reference is humerous at best and dishonest at worst, this short squeeze speculation is the latest scam for the pump/dumps, the play was from .001+ to .30, the game is over until pavc is subpennies again, how any one in their right mind believes this is a legit company amazes me, look at the record people, when you go to bed with crooks like the jphc buys from canada, what did you really expect, by the way, where is the outrage by pavc execs regarding the lack of liquidity of their stock, let alone a 80% reduction in sp, newbies be very very careful and longs, get out when you can, reload in the subpennies and wait for the next pump, glty.
mide, money does not have to change hands for a contract to be binding?
serf, fact, pavc sp goes from .001 to .30+ to .01, all within a few weeks, fact, rs at 1:200
fiction, ameritrade releases billions of restricted shares, if it is fact prove it.
the steven king saga has me very concerned, mostly because of how often i communicated with him, reading his past does not make me very happy, the only bright light, his direct employment with gte was terminated about 8 months ago, also, if i remember correctly he was very influential in getting bleckman the job at gte, a guy with major baggage as well, not happy about this, i may upchuck!!!!!!!!!all in my opinion
mrdale, the pump/dumpers, ie, manipulators know all the loop holes and tricks, everyone was jumping down my throat that dilution is imposible because the shares are restricted, bla, bla, bla, see below, so i show them a way and serf says oops, maybe it's possible that restricted shares could have been freed up, and also when you are dealing with a ta that may have his own game to play, you may be able to understand how share price could go from .001 to .30 to .01, hmm, what a surprise, all i have to say, is i respect some of the posters on this board and i hope i can help them with the next pump, when to buy and when to sell, i spent a whole day on rb trying to talk people in to selling at any price above .22, i received a lot of thank you's for helping them and that's why i post here, so newbies can start to understand what they are dealing with.
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serf, i find this very interesting regarding rule 144, you may want to take a look at it in it's entirety, this is why i think major dilution is possible, i will be very interested in your response.
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RULE 144
(j) Non-exclusive rule. Although this rule provides a means for reselling restricted securities and securities held by affiliates without registration, it is not the exclusive means for reselling such securities in that manner. Therefore, it does not eliminate or otherwise affect the availability of any exemption for resales under the Securities Act that a person or entity may be able to rely upon.
serf, show me where the amount of restricted shares ameritrade released is billions, prove it. this should be good.
serf, lets go one further, time has run out for many pump/dumps who have said the same thing for yrs, such as cmkm, the mother of all short squeeze pumps until trading was halted and after a couple of yrs share holders are still trying to blame the naked shorts for their losses, which after yrs have yet to recover a penny, let's look at ostk, naz stock, naked shorted to death and sp continues to go down from 80's to under 17, ceo blaming naked shorts, which imo is accurate, what is not accurate is there won't be a short squeeze, the hedge funds are way to clever for that, they can manipulate the price until they feel they have made enough money and then will cover, do you really think that pavc is the only pump/dump to play the naked short/short squeeze game, don't think so, but what do you expect when your company, apoa goes to bed with a pump/dump from canada called jphc.
serf, c'mon dude, speculative at best, let me know what is speculative in the following and then we can talk:
1. apoa merges with a pinkie, jphc, that is known for rs's, name changes and symbol changes to become paiv
2. talk starts on the boards about all the naked shorts out there
3. paiv goes to bed with a ta that is known for helping cause short squeezes, i think it was even pr'd as such
4. paiv sp goes from .001 to .30+ and back down to .06 within a week or so.
5. volume dries up at .06 for a few days
7. paiv announces a rs at 1:200
8. sp goes down to .02 or so presplit
9. less than 5 trades per day after symbol change to pavc
9. owners of paiv shares are unable to get their shares converted to tradeable pavc, for well over 2 weeks
10. sp continues to fall to .01 presplit
11. etc., etc.,
tell me if any of my comments on this post are not fact.
occams razor,
1. pavc = 6 previous name changes and at least 6 symbol changes and at least 1 rs, + jphc = at least 4 name changes and 9 symbol changes and at least 4 rs's = pump and dump:
or
2. pavc is a legitimate company that is going back to presplit highs of $60.00 due to a massive short squeeze which should be coming shortly.
note: occams razor = the simplist explanation is usually the correct one.
serf, for the 3rd time, supply me with a chart going back about 1 yr, with volume and sp presplit and i will show you, how and when the accumulation started, how many shares bought/sold on the run up to .30+ and how many shares sold on the dump to get to 10mil, minimum, most likely including dilution, if you are willing to do the leg work and chart conversion i will walk you through it.
seven trades so far today, all sells, bid down to 2.30=.01 presplit, this is amazingly well orchestrated by the manipuliators, imo
newbies, do your dd, here's a start, i'm seeing the first step in the slow walk down to subpennies, capitulation by the bagholders and true believers in the company are starting to see the light and they know it does not look good, they will take their lumps and slowly disappear knowing they read the pump/dump wrong, kick themselves for being greedy and not selling for a huge gain and hopefully will learn a valuable lessen that everyone needs to go thru to understand how the pump/dump works, this is what pavc wants to happen so they can bring in another group of naive/newbies when sp back in the subpennies, so they can play the pump again, this is my opinion on what we are seeing from the lack of liquidity and the inability of the share holders of paiv to easily get their pavc trading shares, very orchestrated by all the manipulators involved. newbies do be very careful even under a dollar, cause imo going mucho lower.
i have spoken with steven king a couple dozen times, who would have thunk it, if this is the same steven king, does anyone have a copy of his signature to match up to the legal docs.
shorts, not a mess, one of the most strategic pump/dumps ever conceived, imo
nerd, my guess is someone associated with hbk, they closed out their position right about the time of the bony fiasco, correct me if i'm wrong but that is what i remember
serf, i think in this instance it could be approved by corporate council based on individual circumstances, imo, what that means is a prearranged agreement and rubber stamp.
share price = 2.75 = .014 presplit, volume picking up, 9 trades = 8 sells
bigdog, please, your beloved stock recently did the following, merged with a pinkie, jphc which has had numerous name changes and rs's and is listed as a scam at stock patrol dot com, then your beloved stock runs from .001 to .30+ and then within a couple of days back down to .06, sits for a couple of days and boom, paiv, which has had numerous name changes, the last being apo medical, announces a 1:200 rs and changes it's symbol to pavc, liquidity dries up, for all practical purposes, to zero, people still can't get their shares converted from paiv to pavc after a couple of weeks, the company comes out with it's 10Q and the stock still does not trade more than a few trades a day, and you call me negative, take the rose colored glasses off, and i will state this again, i am taking my time to try to help newbies and naive investors see both sides, eom
serf, i find this very interesting regarding rule 144, you may want to take a look at it in it's entirety, this is why i think major dilution is possible, i will be very interested in your response.
UNITED STATES
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Washington, D.C. 20549
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RULE 144
(j) Non-exclusive rule. Although this rule provides a means for reselling restricted securities and securities held by affiliates without registration, it is not the exclusive means for reselling such securities in that manner. Therefore, it does not eliminate or otherwise affect the availability of any exemption for resales under the Securities Act that a person or entity may be able to rely upon.
serf, a little heads up, i was looking at the last paiv 10Q, you better take a look at the share distribution and the class of shares given for the remaining 20% of macro, plus the crony shares given, also, take a real good look at the share terms for the jphc execs, if my prediction is correct, you are looking at a huge increase in os come next 10Q. glty.
serf, give me the chart with the criteria i requested and i will show you, eom
serf, one more thing, you are going to have a coronary once the next 10Q comes out and you see dilution beyond what even you could imagine, all in my opinion.
serf, it is more than likely number 2, lol, also, i did a little more research regarding jphc, they had 7 name changes and 4 rs's within 3 yrs, let's see if pavc can beat jphc's record, so far we have apoa to paiv to pavc and one rs, all within a couple of months, wow, also, does a real company trade less than 500shares/day for a couple weeks now, ouch, but i wish you the best and it will be interesting how longs and bagholders unwind from their positions if they ever can.
serf, how ungrateful can you be, i am willing to show you how the play worked and the pavc/paiv/apoa/jphc execs/insiders made a killing and you want me to do the leg work, don't think so, sorry for trying to help you guys make some real money next time, that's what happens to people, they want to keep their head in the sand and not learn, no wonder people get stuck and lose their shirts in scam plays instead of making money with the insiders, wow, human nature always amazes me.
serf, read my post again, if you want the answer i need a presplit chart going back a yr with presplit sp and presplit volume.
serf, i think you are a good guy so i will show you the play, but you have to do some home work, i need you to post a chart with the presplit volumes and sp going back about a yr, then it will take me about 10 minutes to crunch the numbers on how the insiders made 10s of millions, imo, i'm down to 3 posts so i may not respond until tonight or early tomorrow but once i walk you thru it you will see how they make big bucks with a subpenny pump/dump when you have a 50 bagger, all in my opinion
shorts, the pavc etc. boys made 10's of millions on the run to .30, the reverse split was done to allow them to reload, they don't want the masses calling the sec more than they have already so they may try to manipulate for a slow walk down, to stay under the sec radar, i flipped jphc about eight times in 18mos for anywhere from 3 to 10 bagger each time, the paiv boys went for a 50 bagger right out of the box so they may give it some time again to try to stay under the radar, that is why you see virtually no volume since the rs, now that i think about it, they will not short this right away, to much heat on them already, not sure when but if you pay attention you will see the play unfold before your very eyes, i'm seeing the first step already, capitulation by the bagholders and true believers in the company are starting to see the light and they know it does not look good, they will take their lumps and slowly disappear knowing they read it wrong, kick themselves for being greedy and not selling for a huge gain and hopefully will learn a valuable lessen that everyone needs to go thru to understand how the pump/dump works, this is what pavc wants to happen so they can bring in another group of naive/newbies to play the pump with again, this is my opinion.
serfdom, i don't know what your motive is, if you trully believe that pavc is legit, after all i have spelled out, all the name changes, symbol changes, rs's, mergers with scam pinks like jphc etc. why not come clean and explain why you feel that pavc is going way up when i think it's going back to subpennies.
serfdom, go check some of my past posts, i spent almost one full day explaining the play and telling people not to get greedy and sell at .22 as i did, i received almost 2 dozen emails from people thanking me for explaining the pump/dump to them, that is the only reason i continue to post, cause i trully believe this will fall like a rock back to the subpennies, so the pump can start again, you do realize that they pumpers/execs/insiders/manipulators etc. made 10's of millions, i'm just happy that a lot of retailers listened to me and also made a nice chunk of change, the one's that didn't what can i say, maybe next time.
bigmoney, but you don't think that is what the pavc/paiv/apoa/jphc boys have done to the ususpecting public that bought in at the top and boom were rs at 1:200 and couldn't sell their shares if they wanted to, who's cheating whom, take the rose colored glasses off.
caught bashing, i call it helping naive/newbies not to get killed by the likes of pavc execs, c'mon dude, you can't trully believe this company is legit, several name changes, at least 11 symbol changes, sp from .001 to .30 to .02(ps) all within weeks, virtually zero trading volume since the dump, and from the 10Q, major dilution headed share holders way by giving 9 indivuduals millions of shares, hmmm, and you call this a legit company, wake up boys and girls, let the dump happen and play it as a subpenny again, you can make a killing, that is what you do with scams like this, all in my opinion.
bigmoney, when you say crooks you do mean the pavc/paiv/apoa/jphc execs/insiders, right.
tele, if this is true, what they are trying to do is stop a free fall down to subpennies, imo
cpmac, yes, promotional info is the buz word, but imo the real info amex is trying to get out of gte is how the pr's correlate with funding and dilution.
let's see, pavc or whatever symbol at the time, goes from .001 to .30+, then back down to .06, rs at 1:200 and drops to .02 presplit, all while shares being converted to tradeable, now that people are starting to get there conversions done, i'm sure they are going to hold on to their shares and even buy more, i doubt it, this is going to subpennies in very short order in my opinion, someone should document all of this and use it as a case study on how to lose 99% of share value within months and then start another pump cycle, watch and learn longs, imo.
pavc has gone thru several name changes and at least 11 symbol changes that i can find, and that does not count jphc that had done the same, throw in a few rs and walla, what do you have, and it's not called a legitimate company in my book, wow, now throw in dilution that is going to be huge and you have a subpenny stock again in no time, imo, ouch.