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I already told you I am not invested in this stock based on a lawsuit
Anybody who believes these national political polls are giving you facts is a gullible fool.
Any editors of newspapers or television news shows who use poll results as a story are beyond gullible. On behalf of the public they profess to serve, they are indolent salesmen of falsehoods.
This is because these political polls are done by telephone. Land-line telephones, as your house phone is called.
The telephone polls do not include cellular phones. There are almost 169 million cell phones being used in America today - 168,900,019 as of Sept. 15, according to the cell phone institute in Washington.
There is no way to poll cell phone users, so it isn't done.
Not one cell phone user has received a call on their cell phone asking them how they plan to vote as of today.
Out of 168 million, anything can happen. Midway through election night, these stern-faced network announcers suddenly will be frozen white and they have to give a result:
"It appears that the winner of the election tonight is ... Milford J. Schmitt of New Albany, Ind. He presently has 56 percent of the vote, placing him well ahead of John Kerry, George Bush and another newcomer, Gibson D. Mills of Corvallis, Ore. It appears the nation's voting habits have been changed unbeknownst to us. Mr. Schmitt was asked what party he is in. He answered, 'The winning party.'"
Those who have both cell phones and land lines still might have been polled the old way - on their land lines by people making phone calls with scientifically weighted questions and to targeted areas for some big pollster. These results are announced by the pollsters: "CBS-New York Times poll shows George Bush and John Kerry in a statistical dead heat in the presidential race."
Beautiful. There are 169 million phones that they didn't even try. This makes the poll nothing more than a fake and a fraud, a shill and a sham. The big pollster doesn't know what he has. The television and newspaper brilliants put it out like it is a baseball score. Except not one person involved can say that they truly know what they are talking about.
"I don't use telephones anymore because there is no easy way to use them," John Zogby was saying yesterday. It was the 20th anniversary of the start of his polling company. He began with what he calls "blue highway polls," sheriffs' races in Onandaga and Jefferson counties in upstate New York.
"The people who are using telephone surveys are in denial," Zogby was saying. "It is similar to the '30s, when they first started polling by telephones and there were people who laughed at that and said you couldn't trust them because not everybody had a home phone. Now they try not to mention cell phones. They don't look or listen. They go ahead with a method that is old and wrong."
Zogby points out that you don't know in which area code the cell phone user lives. Nor do you know what they do. Beyond that, you miss younger people who live on cell phones. If you do a political poll on land-line phones, you miss those from 18 to 25, and there are figures all over the place that show there are 40 million between the ages of 18 and 29, one in five eligible voters.
And the great page-one presidential polls don't come close to reflecting how these younger voters say they might vote. The majority of them use cell phones and nobody ever asks them anything.
Common sense would say that the majority of the 18 to 25 who do vote would vote for the Democrat. The people who say they want to vote for Bush are generally in the older age brackets, and they don't have as much trouble with the lies told by Bush and his people. The older people also use cell phones much less because they can't hear on the things and when trying to dial a number on these midget instruments they stand there for an hour and get nothing done. The young people on cell phones appear not to be listening and they hear every syllable. They punch out a number without looking.
They are quicker, and probably smarter at this time, and almost doubtlessly more in favor of Kerry than Bush.
Older people complain about Kerry's performance as a candidate. Younger people don't want to get shot at in a war that most believe, and firmly, never should have started because it was started with a president lying.
Zogby has no opinion because he is a professional figure man and he has no figures he trusts.
"I am making a segue into Internet polling, which is going to be the future," he was saying yesterday. "You use screened e-mails of hundreds of thousands. Every household has some chance of being polled. How can you not do it that way? I have three children. The one in Washington uses only a cell phone. The ones at home use cell phones."
If you want a poll on the Kerry-Bush race, sit down and make up your own. It is just as good as the monstrous frauds presented on television and the newspaper first pages.
Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.
Biggest fraud case in history over 100 companies involved and not one of them issues a pr to their stockholders, try floating it somewhere else, until it gets confirmed I will treat is as an urban legend
Sorry buddy, you have to come up with some definitive pr's from any company to convince the world
Until we get further confirmations, I don't believe it, you could have left out information in those posts, even though I could care less about that case, I don't believe you or the bashers at raging bull
OT Thanks Jimlur, I think you can understand why one would find a picture of Bush with the words terrorist offensive
Actually Jimlur the ceo of a company i think called dyna mat, was on msnbc yesterday, they have a patent of something they spray from the sky that lowers the core temperature and absorbs moisture, they claim they are trying to convince the scientific community that it is safe environmentally and that is just dissolves in the ocean
I deal in facts, when you want to deal in facts then we can have a point counterpoint argument, your nonsensical rants mean nothing to me
Yeah another credible source, lol, you guys sure are funny
When you can argue the issues then talk to me, otherwise I am not paying attention, it is like trying to talk to a child
haha, thanks again for not being able to argue the issues, you're nickname should be the garbageman, all nonsense and no specifics
f6 there is not an independent bone in your body, no way for you to weigh both sides of the issue, that is why I don't care what you think about me, funny how you can't answer any of the questions i present to you
Hey f6 show me any post where I claim or imply I know it all, in fact I am one of the few here who have an independent mind, I call what I see even if it goes against democrats or republicans
I am more informed then you will ever be, in fact I think it would help for you to use more facts, I tolerate opinions but when I call an opinion wrong it is my right, too bad you and Easy can't take it when someone calls your opinions wrong, any clown can say something outrageous
Personally I am not looking for your approval, your credibility is not very high these days due to the fact that you are so biased one way, let me clue you in on something, no side is ever one hundred percent correct, you fit into the same category as the Limbaughs of the world, he is one side and you are on the other and both of your skewed world views are not close to being right
you are going to call me close minded when you and easy equate the President with Nazi Germany and label him a terrorist, oh and I understand every one of you and easy's warped views
the problem you have is the same problem chomsky has and many other far left liberals no distinctions, you can't make distinctions between world situations, to you guys every war is evil, chomsky compared september 11th to Clinton's bombing of a pharmacy company in Sudan, yes Chomsky there is a difference, and if you can't see that then you are blind
100 to 1 you and Easy think we were wrong to fight the taliban in afghanistan, hate to clue you in on something, but there are occasions where war is necessary
anyway of course you won't answer my post and argue the points you will just make a general snide comment about me and not address any of the issues I brought up, but when you don't have facts then what can you say
OTamr I know, I can take some joking, I know you are fair to me, anyway the King is full of it, you can generally find out who the fakers are by the content of the posts, all he posts is one or two lines of nonsense, non specific garbage
Look even take out the sources, if one of us who have some free time did a little investigating I'm sure we could find some puzzle pieces, maybe we need a Bud Fox to follow around Howard
We can all chip in for a motorcycle, call up the Cabal maybe they can pay for my time, I will volunteer
OT HaHa funny Jim, I know I am the resident punching bag on this board, soon you will all be hailing the mighty Spree
Due, I don't believe this case is over, where are the press releases from all of the companies involved, this is supposedly the biggest stock fraud case in history and supposedly it gets dismissed yet only one paper reports it, how come the companies who were dismissed did not report this important news event to their shareholders, I smell a basher scam somewhere in this, maybe you are not releasing the whole motion, maybe that was just a step in the court process, you have to prove to us this case is terminated and you have to do it from more than one source
amr what are you talking go back to my posting history and you will see what i am talking about before ericy settlement
Strictly talking about volume, same volume deal with ericy settlement
no it doesn't, you buy the program and then it works
Again another afterhours spike, same thing happened right before ericy settlement
Not true if you have a cable modem you have a fixed ip, also i have zone alarm and it does not keep your ip hidden, just do a google search on ip address and there are a million web sites that will tell you what your ip is
Totally false and uncalled for, but I expect nothing less, I can't force people to be civil, but I think I might start TOS'ing if some here want to start hurling profanities at me
You state gimmick with no explanation like that is the final word, your ip is unique to your computer, you can be tracked by sites, your service provider can see what sites you are visiting, hackers can get into your computer easier, and psychoes can find out where you live, even more reasons than that, I could on forever, in no way it is a gimmick, i have researched them and anonymizer seems to have the best program, was wondering if anyone here uses it, as far as spysweeper, seems to keep the tracking cookies off of my hard drive, I would say that is worth it
one of the worst articles you have posted, yeah ok, forget about the attacks bin laden did all throughout the 90's, what did those have to with bush, the author should rename the article no brains, the planning and execution for the plan of 9/11 started before bush was in office, the lack of brains amazes me
Don't pawn your posted articles on someone else, if I post Nazi material here and say take it up with the author then I am being a fake person who spews hate and tries to blame someone else, if you can't post responsibly you will be called on it
No if you reread the post it never states I have a problem with you, I don't put anyone on ignore, but obviously I suggest you do that with me because if I Tos'ed some of your posts to me you would be in jail about 10 times now
how is anonymizer a gimmick, hides my ip, does the job, and it erases their logs every hour
What do you think of anonymizer and spysweeper
How about having a delayed stock quote appear with the message boards, thanks
Thanks F6 hopefully we can have more civil arguments, including Easy, anyway why did all of this happen today, without repeating the same words, what drove Rooster to go to jail and what did he say
Just skimmed over it, if you mean to say that under Bush a fundamentalist strain of Christian religion is invading our policy, I agree that is happening
Sure I am always available to talk German history
be more specific, what could not happen here
Hey F6, I know I'm not your favorite right now, but can you tell me where I can find what features I now have with the subscription, thanks
Sorry just joking around, this board went premium and I couldn't post, so I finally bought a subscription
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Guess who's back, and you thought you could keep me away, haha
Dalglish first post in over a month, my only guess is you sense something big happening soon
OT Zitboy just go to ragingbull and use the regular idcc board as the new coffee shop, not the club board, anything can be posted there, they don't pay attention to TOS's over there, so just go there, I advised Rooster to do the same, don't understand why let a few people ruin a political discussion board, doesn't it help ihub to have more posts, just send them to jail
Easy if you were around for the Revolution you would have called it all a conspiracy, and if you were around for the war of 1812 you would have claimed Madison burned his own house down, thank god you were not around during that time
Sounds like your kind of fun