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1 - I don't know. Probably never until they are registered as unrestricted (see below), and then they would simply convert to additional INTK common shares
2 - they are restricted for one year, so 6/6/23 (one year from the actual payable date) would be the earliest. It might not happen precisely on the one year anniversary, as INTK has to file to "register" those shares for free trading. Something of a formality, but INTK has to do this, it is generally NOT automatic.
3 - Prospectively they would have the same value as common shares at any point in time, but given that you can't trade them and they are not marginable (and therefore can not provide collateral for buying something else), does it really matter what the value is right now?
Let's talk about it again in June of next yea. Until then, there is nothing more to be said.
Update on dividend status at Schwab - INTK dividend shares just posted to my Schwab accounts (literally while I was on the phone enquiring about them!). Since they are restricted they show under a different CUSIP (456CNT012) rather than under INTK itself. The shares show on the Schwab web site but as yet not through the SSE trading platform.
I personally doubt that. I don't think K was hired by LWLG's possible competition. They were hired by someone who has a more direct financial interest in seeing LWLG's stock price go lower.
Foundries making decisions about the next generation of technology are certainly not going to be influenced by a piece from K. They have their own technology and market experts.
Competitors would be more interested in discrediting the tech Anything that they put out to attempt to do that would be debated by technical experts in technical forums - not on iHub or Seeking Alpha or Stocktwits..
This is all about someone trying to force LWLG's stock price down in the short term.
Yes. Click on their name on one of their posts. It should be hyperlinked to their profile. On the left side of the profile click “ignore this member”.
Your life will be immediately better.
Over time, big players have got smarter about handling the Russell changes. While the index funds themselves can't add new companies before the actual reconstitution date, other fund managers can see what is coming and front-run the shares, making for less of a spike on the actual reconstitution date. They can also work out a side deal to buy in advance of the date and sell to the index fund on the reconstitution date and split the difference. Any big player front running like this is probably selling those shares to the index funds in off-market transactions that don't reflect in the current bid and ask.
There is no special consideration that would knock LWLG out of the Russell.
When you see the notices from law firms about "investigations", the NEVER have a lead plaintiff at that point. That is how class actions work, eventually all those suits get consolidated into one "class action" suit, generally with the firm that has the most sympathetic lead plaintiff in the most litigant-favorable court.
Incidentally - there is no investigation by any government agency. Even the law firms don't dig deeper until they have a lead plaintiff and a good chance of being the survivor that runs the consolidated class action. They use the word "investigation" as a scare tactic.
"They" are not deciding which companies will go into the Russell indices - the market is deciding. It is entirely a function of market cap and a couple knock-out criteria (i.e. no derivative securities).
If you are long, Schwab won't let you short in the same account, you would have to close the long position first. LWLG shows as hard to borrow, and Schwab has a 100% margin maintenance requirement on LWLG, but I did not get any kind of message saying "security can not be shorted".
I agree, that is why I am still here.
It has been a pivotal year - we pivoted DOWN.
All of those things have been true for a long time, yet here we still are.
Add one other thing to the list - a majority owner who has absolutely no urgency to sell the shell or merge anything into it.
I doubt that. Like it or not, the Kerrisdale piece is lengthy and detailed. No way that was composed on the fly in response to positive market action after the ASM.
More likely, as another poster noted, the ASM confirmed to Kerrisdale and whoever is paying them that a snort term positive surprise was unlikely and they could proceed as planned.
Could be that the lack of definitive announcements at the ASM was a further contributing factor. That certainly would suggest there was little likelihood of being blind-sided by a surprise positive announcement in the very short term.
For the record, I never said or implied NAKED shorts - I simply said that this was a window of opportunity for any large short to exit.
Absolutely - there is no way Kerrisdale suddenly decided around the end of May that LWLG was the best short opportunity out there. They were hired.
What makes me sure of this is the timing. LWLG has always been about a big payout at the end of the rainbow. Those of us who have been in it for years have always believed that it would be a long arduous path to commercialization (and then things are likely to happen quickly). While we might get to a time when things change quickly day to day for LWLG, that has not been the case historically.
LWLG was a much "fatter target" when it was at $20 in December. The price was 3x higher, the story less advanced, we had fewer patents, and Lebby had not as yet indicated that our horizon was the second half of 2022. Where was Kerrisdale then? This was probably when their masters were in fact shorting. A hit piece then, simply saying that LWLG's price had got way ahead of the underlying corporate developments (which in retrospect is true), would actually have been believable, and would have scared off some of the momo crowd we saw on the message boards at that point in time even if it did not have much effect on long term holders.
Who writes a hit piece AFTER the stock has dropped 66%, picked up new patents, put out the most specific forward-looking statements in company history regarding timing and adoption and foundry interest? Only someone who is paid to do so.
Which brings me to the matter of the timing. It sure looks to me like one or more big players is looking to exit a sizeable short position and/or go long a large stake. Why now? I can think of a couple reasons. LWLG is being added to the Russell index, which will effectively take a chunk of shares out of circulation (though they would still be part of the float). Additionally, the timing of Lebby's purchase (April 11), coupled with the rule you have cited where insiders can not trade within 90 days of a KNOWN upcoming material event suggest that as of April 11 Lebby did not know of anything locked in to happen by July 11, but after that anything could happen. We still could see news before July 11 if things happen faster than Lebby expected back in April, but taking things at face value suggests there are two overlapping opportunity windows right now - pre-Russell and also within the mid-July horizon suggested by Lebby's April purchase. Additionally, releasing the report around the end of May allows those players to work with the June options that expire on Friday June 17. While to me the June options volume and open interest does not seem excessive, the June options are a tool a big player could use to reduce their entry or exit cost.
There is one other reason that makes me pretty sure Kerrisdale was hired to produce their report. Based on the Seeking Alpha track record, they sure aren't making money on their picks - they obviously have another source of income.
Russell is based on market cap, not share price.
I think it is a stretch to say that MULN might ever equal Tesla. I would gladly settle for a tenth of that valuation.
Beau - I can only speak for myself.
I entertain no presumptions regarding what company will come into GOFF or when. My experience with these shells is that everything takes a really long time and nothing is believable until everything is final and filed. I hold a position in GOFF not because I am a true believer but rather because I like the risk/reward profile and share structure. I am neither adding or selling at this point in time.
I don't own either of the other two G. Sharp shells and have no opinion on them.
ok - so the Schwab rep can see them but we can't yet. THat aligns with what I am hearing and seeing at Schwab.
How did you find that data re: how many dividend shares total at Schwab?
If 3M is the total div shares for Schwab customers, then we can infer that those customers owned around 40M shares on the record date (div rate was 7.5%). I’m not sure what to do with that piece of information, but it is an interesting tidbit.
Hopefully, they will wiggle in another direction. Good riddance.
As others have pointed out, if Lebby or others have knowledge of material events forthcoming within 90 days they can't legally buy now. I have no clue if there are forthcoming material events, but Lebby's comments on timeline suggest that there well may be.
Even if they COULD buy, there is at least one very compelling reason why they should not. These guys are already HIGHLY LEVERAGED to LWLG's success, as they have common and options positions in addition to LWLG being their source of income. From a diversification standpoint, buying LWLG in the open market is the last thing they should be doing.
It is not the CEO's job to prop up the share price with personal purchases.
Sorry, but the Russell does not "choose" stocks. There is no vetting for worthiness for inclusion.
Enron was pat of all the top tier indices before it was found to be a house of cards.
Inclusion in the Russell is solely a function of market cap. How a company got to that cap and what its future prospects might be are irrelevant.
I do not believe MULN is a scam, but whether it is a scam or not is irrelevant to being included in the Russell index.
I don’t see a conspiracy here. A simpler explanation is that this is early days in a niche with a big future target market, where as yet the technologies involved are not clearly differentiated.
I think the mathematical formula used as much simpler. How much will the big guys pay us for the article?
I am not concerned as I have the answers I need. I just wish their securities lending program allowed me to opt in or out ticker by ticker.
Which means they won’t loan shares from an IRA account as IRAs can not be margin accounts.
I am not sure changing brokers will eliminate your problem. You will probably find the same story at every other broker.
At least Schwab seems to be above board in that they ask if clients want to participate in the securities lending program. I do, but that said I am not entirely sure that they don't lend out shares anyway.
I think I know one way to prevent the shares being lent out.
When they lend the shares the brokers move them to another account and collateralize that with cash (at least Schwab does it t6hat way, I presume it is the same for other brokers).
Many have posted that placing a limit sell order will prevent lending. That won't work. However, there is a way to use the actual account covenants to prevent the shares being lent out that involves covered call positions.
You need to have you account authorized for level 1 option trading (which allows you to write covered calls) but nothing broader than that (in particular, not going up to the trading level that allows naked short call positions). For IRAs this is no problem - level 1 is the highest you can go.
Buy the common, then write a covered call position against those shares. Write the highest strike front month calls (for LWLG these would currently be the June 35s) to minimize the risk of them actually being assigned. This does cap your gain in the event of an EXTREME windfall (LWLG going to 35 by Friday the 17th), but the covenants of your accounts disallow naked short positions, so your shares can not be lent out because they mechanism used transfer them to a separate shadow account, which would leave a (disallowed) naked short call position in you base account! When the calls expire, roll them out to the next month.
When a farther out options expiry position opens up, roll out your calls to that date (and up in strike if a higher one is there there). If you want more income, write lower strike price calls and monitor more closely. However, for the purpose of preventing lending, any strike will do.
I have done this with several stocks I did not want lent out, including LWLG. The LWLG shares I have in my IRAs are covered in this manner. I **DO** participate in the Schwab lending program, and they actively lend my uncovered positions but not the LWLG shares I have covered in those accounts, and I know that LWLG is being lent from other accounts. Since my non-IRA account **IS** authorized for naked call positions, I had to withdraw from the lending program in that account to prevent the lending. Unfortunately enrollment in the program is account by account, not security by security. I would have preferred to be able to tell Schwab "LWLG is off limits for lending but am not able to do so - despite numerous go-rounds with their customer service and compliance people. Since they HAD previously lent my LWLG in my non-IRA account (creating a naked short call position I was not aware of!) before I unenrolled that account, and Schwab IS lending shares from my IRAs on companies other than LWLG where I have not written covered calls, I conclude that the covered calls plus the "no short calls" provision in my IRA is what is preventing my LWLG shares there from being lent out there,(and that this would similarly prevent my non-IRA LWLG shares from being lent out if I ratcheted back my options permissions there as well.
Even if you are not enrolled in a securities lending program, the broker still can not create naked positions in accounts not pre-authorized to hold them.
The elegance of this solution is that it uses the brokers' own internal compliance rules to prevent the lending you don't want. Telling the broker or their customer service "don't do this" does not work. However, their internal compliance people will force the behavior you want simply by doing their jobs.
Right. Frankly, DBMM and every other 4 character domestic otc ticker were not the targets for the September 2021 OTC Markets rules changes - they were just collateral damage. Just look at the daily list of symbols with tier changes - well over 95% day to day are foreign companies -- symbols ----F. Clearly the new rules were targeted primarily at foreign issuers trading on US markets who had simply seen no reason to comply with US reporting requirements. This included but was not limited to a very large number of Chinese corporations listed on the otc that had made no effort whatsoever towards transparency and compliance with US regs.
The proposals are sensible, but I suspect that DMBB is very far off Gensler's radar.
Just you, and since you had to ask whether others felt the same you probably have doubts yourself...:)
Anyone who has a long term perspective couldn't care less bout daily paint jobs - either way. It's just noise.
Hardly brutal. Normal noise level fluctuation for an OTC stock with no news.
The dividend was on the FINRA website. It is not a scam. Distribution of stock dividends often takes some time. There is no cause for alarm here.,
Whatever. We can agree to disagree. Peace.
I can wait. I have the position I am comfortable with and am neither buying nor selling at present.
There's a big difference between a post on StockTwits and a formal, on the record *k filed with the SEC.