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And at 135 in December.
I follow a gold expert who has been right most of the time for several years and he pegged the bottom for miners. So, I'm trusting the two prior pivots on GDX. He mentioned that miners aren't necessarily correlating with the metals and recommends a stop loss order one more picot down ( but not the low). If you look at open interest on near term options, there's a lot of it around $100 in 22 days (Sept NUGT call options).
The only idea that I have ( and hope that someone will qualify or challenge it) is buy it when GDX reaches the most recent pivot of $28 or the one before it; meaning it correlates with GDX and miners supposedly have bottomed so use the most recent two support levels (pivot lows) as reference.
is this a bottom for nugt?
If they can do it again (meaning "grow" and scale), $2 would potentially be a good price. If anybody knows for sure that they'll get there soon, it would have to be based on inside information. If they were going to get a boost in revenue from aapl, the secrecy might make sense, but according to the CEO they won't get any future revenue benefit from aapl, so .... Have you been invested here for awhile? You mentioned that you have sold a company to aapl. Is lqmt looking good to you for that? What timeframe?
Even if it were all uphill from here, ask yourself, would you really want to be on board where you have been misled and taunted. Why would you expect anything different in the future. It might take on a different form, but it will probably still be there unless the company takes extra measures to regain credibility. But if you're a penny stock player primarily, it's all ok, I suppose. Then it's a game of tracking taunters. For me at least, I'd rather make money that relies on credible public information (for bigger investments). I also noticed that this company does not respond to invitations to help through their sales force, e.g. business leads. I have to scratch my head on that one also.
Exactly, and it sounds to me (based on limited public communications) that it is still some time away. They anticipate future revenue, but not anytime soon to scale (it seems to me). The comments to the effect of "just around the corner" almost a year ago were misleading. But they did say that it was not a "revenue play". The part they left out was the effects of dilution which I would have wanted to know as an investor. It seems to me, it's the behind the scenes paid pumpers, who will taunt you saying "you missed out" that want you to play into their hands. Like another poster mentioned, there are other opportunities elsewhere, where you can put your money to work, and with broader news coverage (and with more credible analysis). If all this is for the next year is just a sit and wait for another pump (that drops), you could be making it up, and doing better, someplace else, and sooner, even if this stock pumps/jumps on rumors.
Whether they get new licenses or not, except for a golf deal (it sounds like), they're still years off from any major revenue. They said this a year ago also. It sounds to me like they are slow rolling second sourcing. So they are great guys, nice to know, have sharp employees, and privileged to speak with, but it still sounds a ways off in terms of getting sustainable momentum or growth unless the golf deal is really good which it may be since it sounded like they were taking a better (though slower) approach.
More like cousins but with more credible coverage.
The "a major defense contract is just around the corner" comment (10/2012) and the past comments to the effect that second sourcing for large potential customers Is an issue, and the recent comment to the effect of "experimental licenses (to potential customers ? (Or just AAPL) not until 2H2014) has me worried that it is sounding more like "later" for any major developments (defense related) and a reason that "just around the corner" never happened. They got me excited for sure a year ago. But I couldn't get excited after the stock price fell and (dilution) and there weren't any announcements. That's the reason we sold almost a mill. shares (at a loss), and because we know we can make it back faster someplace else. It's not worth our wait over 5k shares when they say they have to get financing again, may have a golf contract (small), and still no "major defense contract" that they thought was "just around the corner" almost a year ago. If their sisters nugt, dust can move more often it adds up faster than waiting and hoping for us. It's more work for sure but if this company can't get the major contract due to second sourcing issues no sooner than late 2014 then it sounds way off, unless they get bought out.
We hope everybody gets $1-1.5 by year end. It's not adding up for us mot knowing when the next 200%+ move is coming.
How is it possible to finance but not math when it comes to this stock.
It seems like AAPL might be holding this company back and that the company is more of a contractor (vs a supplier) to AAPL.
Do people on the board think that it's "acceptable" to communicate with shareholders at large so infrequently through traditional means, e.g. press release.
The only time we've communicated with the CEO directly was through a conference call and they were very receptive both times. We stopped asking questions so other investors have space for theirs.
It seems odd to us that press releases are infrequent if they have several initiatives in progress which has been implied but updates, even in conference calls seem less and less over time.
If the company is making great strides, it's difficult for us at least to tell.
Most companies that I am familiar with and have invested in, or evaluated, including small ones, used press releases for just about anything they could talk about, legitimately, to communicate to the outside. It wasn't an exception, it was a norm, and a large number.
So, we find it very strange that in order to receive communications from this company that it has been implied by some as "privileged" one-on-one personal style communications.
We've worked for several highly reputable firms at different levels and in different capacities, including small ones, and all of them believed that press releases were an essential component to the business, especially for new or strategic initiatives.
Maybe this company would be better off going private since it seems so private.
What are the chances?
Will TSLA ever pull back?
It seems that way unfortunately. Sometimes big company oriented management is used to delegating and not rocking the boat, meaning, continue as is/was, etc.
Do you know the threshold?
The dollar is showing some strength. That might effect things.
We realize that a lot of people like the ceo. Is it their working with the govt. that gives you confidence. We don't see it at this point because they keep slipping out and are less and less into disclosure. They seem like nice guys but maybe not very motivated. Do you see that, or do you just like things the way that they are?
It's hard to believe that gold will drop 20-30+% with so much accumulation of late. Are you rethinking it?
Who are the big players?
For folks debating composition of blazer buttons, why not capitalize on the coming bottom in metals next month, and the miners already. Some are poised for multi-year gains less the uncertainty of the liquid variant customer base.
I hope everybody in LQMT makes a ton of money by YE with 1-1.5 target.
Lqmt for dreaming.....someday!
LQMT - just hold your nose and jump, lol.
MBA's are boring. I have one too. Accounting knowledge, I think, can be even more boring bit more useful for valuing an investment, etc. (hardly counts it seems when it comes to sentiment about lqmt).
That's why the not so real world is a lot more interesting, kind of like fractals and the lure of lqmt, lol
I agree. Why not just sit back and enjoy it, lol.
We wonder if the SW models take into consideration "accounting" since some cos. (e.g. Lqmt) have kind of funky accounting.
Maybe in small timeframes or short ones, technical is all you need.
Those msgs were for you .... Sorry.... The point we were trying to make is that our research shows (outside penny stock domain) that accounting counts more. Imagine that. But it's not exclusive, so ......
This was earlier research that led to stock predictor models. We since (for HB) studied accounting of all things and believe that it can be a better predictor!
http://www.amazon.com/Applications-Cellular-Automata-Including-1983-1986/dp/9971501236
Remember the "Thinking Machine" ( or was that before your time? )
So far it's been lower highs and lower lows since the big pump.
How's this for a strategy: if gld doesn't drop all the way down (previous discussion), say 1/2 way or stalls there, then sell dgld ( picked up today) at around 76 and also pick up nugt which might have formed a low and before gld reverses up. The difference is about 31% on dgld vs. potential 67% (if nugt were to drop to 60 and then climb to about 100). Using the same funds and assuming close timing, it would be almost 100%.
We're glad we didn't act on yesterday's hype. We fretted a little over selling too early but if we had waited we would have missed out something else.
Maybe things will turn around for the pseudo aapl hype; broadly speaking though (market overall), Sept. might be a tough month.
how long ago was that?
Those idiots know it and don't bother. They don't want to communicate period.
Sure I'll buy a .11, but why can't a new investor be given the facts when they ask.
Also, prior information provided by the CEO indicated that it wouldn't be until 2015 that AAPL could produce their own LM parts, and in a recent conference call, the CEO mentioned that it wouldn't be until 2H2014 that they would issue or some company might act on an "experimental" basis, their own manufacturing which would require VPC to lose exclusivity, etc. Most large companies want second sourcing on all parts which they can't get right now with LQMT. LQMT mentions that they are willing (or evaluating) how to support second sourcing , but it only sounds like on an "experimental" basis toward 2H2014. So, given all of this, they can't really reach large customers (according to them) without a second sourcing plan which is still "experimental" in concept and not foreseen until 2H2014 according to the most recent CC. None the less, their CFO recently bought into the stock around .07 pps.
The real issue, validation or not, is that they keep running out money, dilute the stock to finance their future, apparently have a long standing history of it, and look like they may do it again. Some believe that that their technology will materialize in a big way years away and have the patience to wait, literally years, while their investment drops.
If this company really wanted to benefit investors (beyond financing schemes), they would be speaking to the investment community at large using a different tone. But they don't; they hardly communicate at all. It either means they don't have anything to communicate about, or something isn't working, or both; but because they limit communications, it's a serious red flag. It doesn't mean that they can't or won't come through, it just means that with time you might lose trust because of they way things are manipulated. A lot of people here are "hanging" on and have time to wait.