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Anyone who thinks this PR/email stunt announcing $650K would overwhelm $6.6 million dollars in the last weeks dilution deal has a screw loose.
It is absurd to think these contracts can reverse such monstrous dilution.
All it proved to be was a nice 20% pump and dump and with $0.0007’s on deck I wouldn’t be surprised to see $0.0005 on deck by tomorrow because the world has (except for about three people here) gotten wise to Bannon and Bantek and DRUS and whatever else they call themselves.
TERRIBLE AND FALSE ADVICE.
“Buy it now because other guys want to buy it at $0.0001 and they’ll flip it for a profit while if you buy it here at $0.0008, you’ll start losing money when it hits $0.0007 today and lose more along the way to $0.0001”
Good thing you’re only in charge of your money.
DRUS is going to $0.0001.
I’m shocked it’s not there yet.
The best ant robbed longs can do is wait til $0.0001 and buy, then sell at $0.0002 when the ask hits $0.0003 every few days and rinse and repeat before the imminent R/S and company name change.
TRIPS!
Trip zeroes.
$0.0009 about to hit then she’ll work her way down to $0.0001.
All of you longs have been screwed royally by management who KNEW how dilutive these convertible notes were going to be.
I don’t see any apologies on twitter or Facebook or a PR from management.
This is absolutely insane that a company can issue convertible notes worth over $6 million dollars in debt and ruin common shareholders. I mean, it’s the OTC but that doesn’t make it any less insane.
Good luck longs...you’re headed to $0.0001. You’re looking straight down the barrel of a 99.9% loss shotgun.
ANYONE, and I MEAN ANYONE shocked by today’s drop DID NOT SEE, OR SAW AND DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THE 8K filed on 11/16/18.
This thing is going to $0.0001.
They just converted an entire credit facility of over $6 million dollars into shares.
You think you’ve seen dilution?
Just wait til $6 million worth of debt starts factoring into a value of stock priced at $0.0010.
I feel bad for folks who thought $0.02 or $0.01 or $0.0050, or even $0.0020 was the bottom.
EVERY LONG HERE who has lost so so much should become activist investors instead of sheep and be calling DRUS every day.
But...you won’t.
See you all at $0.0001.
mr. drifter.
It’s November 16th.
That means that there are 45 days left IN THE FOURTH QUARTER.
Mark Kay HIMSELF has stated PUBLICLY that he’s not expecting resolution from court matters this year.
He has very plainly said that he’s HOPEFUL there will be resolutions to the court matters in early 2019.
I don’t expect the worst IF SFOR files their 10Q today. In fact, I won’t be surprised if they don’t file til next week.
I know you on the other board. I’m no basher. I know you’d be getting a few whips behind the tool shed for even showing up here and saying what you’re saying.
The truth is this:
I want Mark Kay and SFOR to perform.
Why? So I can make a lot of money investing in them. Despite popular belief over in F451, there’s no money to be made in a stock you can’t short and a stock that is dropping nearly every day.
Check this out:
Let’s say you have $10,000.00 to throw at SFOR. (Some guy did this the other day and paid $0.0140 for it)
Now, today, if you decided to cut your losses and sell you’d crater the bid. You’d lose over 33 percent of your 10K.
There’s no money in that kind of trading. In fact, we call that charity.
I hope that you’re not upside down on this.
If you are, have you looked over the ledge before? Because if you have you’ll know that IF SFOR drops below a penny, it’ll crater. It’ll be at $0.0050 in a single day or two because it’ll show it’s at risk of losing its QB status unless they do something drastic. Something drastic is almost never good for common shareholders and that’ll cause a flood of selling
THE F451 Cult have lost their minds.
They’re deleting SFOR posts so quickly it reads as if they are talking to themselves.
So... SFOR hit $0.0111 this morning. That’s a new low for quite some time.
They haven’t put out a 10Q yet. Some are guessing it’ll be out tonight after the bell.
When it does come out here’s what EVERYONE WILL SEE but not everyone will understand as bad news:
1.) I expect higher revenues.
2.) I expect a higher cost of revenues
3.) I expect more debt
4.) I expect a higher share count which will prove Mark Kay is diluting the common shareholder to pay off debts or in exchange for cash.
5.) despite claims by some, I expect we will see 3 or 4 clients. In other words, SFOR’s revenue will be coming from the same 3 or 4 purchasers and no, none of them will be Apple or Bank of America. They’ll be the same 3 or 4 that they’ve always been.
Happy Friday guys.
SFOR is banging on $0.0112.
Hey longs?
If this company is so awesome then how come so many of you have surrendered more than 50% of your profits or lost 50% of your investment?
This is the best.
I sold at $0.0195.
Some jerk claimed to have bought them.
How you like em now?
The best party is that some of us have been doing this long enough to not get conned by people like mark.
And then there’s you
Come on Penny!
Knock it off bruh.
SFOR DD stands for DayDreaming, not Due Diligence.
It’s Pennyland!
Anyone doing DD here is like me in Vegas right now sitting on a pair of 8’s.
I love Mark Kay in person. He’s affable and intelligent in a TBBT kinda way.
He is out for himself though. He doesn’t like common shareholders/traders/longs.
I think he wants to throw up every time some penny stock investor introduces themself as something bigger than they are.
It’s all good.
SFOR is diluting itself to under a penny because of deals Mark signed in 2017 that are maturing now.
He said it himself...it’s only in the millions of shares range.
Good luck.
You’re betting against the house with this one
Yes he is.
Call him and say so.
I did.
He’s a Buffoon.
He’s not a Buffoon to me. I’ve never invested in his penny stock scam...
He’s a Buffoon on a personal level. I know him. He’s just weird.
He acts all big but can never actually afford any of his ideas.
Lol...
I’ll be back when this is at $0.0001
Lol Penny,
Carusso may be right?
Longs may be adding.
Long may be adding but they can’t keep pace with the selling.
Retail longs tend to run out of powder. They routinely have to “wait for funds to clear” while sellers at any level simply have to enter a sell order and execute.
Carusso may be right.
I know there have been plenty of longs both in here and over in F451 who claim to be buying millions since $0.02 once “funds have cleared” or once they have “dry powder” and some of them are down 50% from their +$0.0220 “cheapies”.
How come, if SFOR is so freaking great; how come SFOR has lost more than 50% of its market cap and not done anything public or with SEC filings to slow or stop or reverse the losses?
You’re funny.
$0.0116 was JUST TODAY’s BOTTOM.
Wait til tomorrow when it finds another bottom.
Hey?
Does it bother you at all that SFOR has been TOTALLY quiet while OVER 1/2 of their market cap has been wiped away over the last several weeks?
Wasn’t too long ago that SFOR hit $0.0240. It was the first two weeks of August if “charts don’t lie”.
Think about that for a minute. Imagine ANY other NDAQ or NYSE stock losing so much in barely two months.
Granted, this is the OTC and we watch every day as market caps explode higher and crater lower BUT isn’t SFOR supposed to be “The only real OTC stock with patents, and lawsuits, and revenues, and products, and buyout potential” all wrapped into one?
Here’s some critical questions for you to ask yourself, then answer, here, or just to yourself:
What would make a stock lose over half of their Market Cap in 7 weeks?
What do you suppose will happen if SFOR’s share price falls below $0.01 in the coming days or week or so?
Do you think the share price will collapse as accredited investors flee in fear of SFOR losing its QB status or in fear of what they’ll possibly do (RS) to keep it?
Do you believe SFOR will come to its own rescue with an 8K or PR to keep their QB status?
What’s worth more?
A $5000 QB annual fee?
Or over $22 million in Market Cap?
If they’d come and save the QB status which cost $5000...how come they haven’t saved the millions upon millions in market cap?
These are all critical questions. They’re meant to be asked and answered. They’re not bashing nor fear mongering. They’re just questions.
I had a guy tell me that he was buying my $0.0195’s as soon as “funds cleared”.
Sure enough, the next day he PM’s me to tell me what a terrible person I am and that he in fact did buy my $0.0195’s.
Me?
I couldn’t be happier watching this perpetual “tomorrow” stock fall.
Maybe when it gets back to under $0.0010 I’ll trade it again.
One thing is certain:
A whole
Lot of selling has overwhelmed retail buying since $0.0220.
That selling or dilution based weakness will bring this to $0.01.
If longs can’t hold that line and SFOR drops below $0.01 it’ll crater.
It’ll drop hard.
And if it stays under $0.01 they’ll have to R/S to maintain their QB status.
Of course, Mark Kay could actually come through on just one promising statement and then BOOM...straight to dollar land
(Bwaaaaahhaaaaaahaaaaa)
Well...
I suppose with your logic they could (since they can do anything) reduce the total liabilities down to zero on their next report and just file a “we paid em” off form.
Good luck with MAXD.
They’re a penny stock printing press and as long as they have investors like you, there will always be money in their ATM.
Take care
ANYONE who’s shocked to read that TWEET and see first hand Mark Kay walk back a strong statement about revenues and deals hasn’t been paying attention.
Anyone over in F451 defending Mark Kay is purely desperate.
Seeing SFOR almost constantly red since I sold at $0.0195 is just confirmation of a spot on call.
I love how people screamed and got nasty and claimed to have bought my $0.0195’s as they swore SFOR was headed to $0.10 then higher even as it fell day after day.
Peeps be like “they haven’t been able to bring it to $0.01 yet”.
Two more sessions of down > 10% and it’ll be at $0.01.
Once it breaks below $0.01 it’ll crater. It’ll absolutely crater.
We will see who the true longs are then but I’m guessing a whole lot of true longs here and in F451 will be losing patience and be pretty vocal about it as it drops further and further.
Dude...
This cracks me up!
Go to F451 and read it for yourself!
There’s actually a real living person who’s counting down the days til Mark Kay actually releases some kind of 8K that’s going to propel SFOR into dollar land!!!
It’s hilarious stuff
So let me get this straight and correct me if I’m wrong;
SFOR is trading at 1.3 pennies. Supposedly it’s a billion dollar company with 2.4 billion shares. They have the grip on patents that everyone is abusing. While others abuse it and make billions, SFOR can’t scrape together a $500k quarter while others make millions in PROFIT.
SFOR sinks deeper into debt each year and each quarter.
Mark Kay?
He keeps chumming the waters with easily defeated nonsense that never comes true.
I hope everyone in F451 loses their shirt on this because they so angrily defend lotto numbers as legit picks.
This is the best.
I live watching SFOR migrate towards $0.01 then lower.
Some dude wrote “no matter what, at least they aren’t able to bring SFOR to $0.01”
That cracks me up.
In previous posts where he’s claiming SFOR is worth $1.00 he tells people “patience”
Hey buddy... the stock hasn’t fallen to $0.01 yet but it’s getting closer...
Soooo
Patience
This is awesome
I don’t know shit about this company.
I don’t care either
All I know is that I bought them at $0.0002 and sold at $0.0004 then bought them again at $0.0003 and can probably sell them today at $0.0005 or higher
Woot!
(I actually do know a lot about this company they suck. This is a pump and dump and I’ve been super lucky so far... I literally cannot lose. Even if MAXD disappeared, I’m still up $10K in three days from my trade three weeks ago...)
GO MAXD!
It’ll fall 1.4 pennies.
It’s funny if you think about it:
Some people have thousands of tens of thousands (or more) invested in SFOR stock because they believed a guy who has lied over and over again.
Maybe they didn’t believe that guy; maybe they believed the handful of true believers over in F451.
If you go over there you’re just buried in links to nowhere and connections to nothing.
So George Waller says “if you install it, and your OS is enabled, then yes, our product is on your computer”
ALL OF THE SUDDEN, PEOPLE ARE LIKE “YESSSSSS SFOR IS IN INTEL”
And that’s not what he said at all!
That’s like saying Words With Friends is embedded in every iPhone just because if you buy the app, and install it, it’s embedded.
So now people are running around saying “SFOR IS IN INTEL CHIPS” and that isn’t what was said.
In layman terms: yes, you can buy and download and install (with user agreements) SFOR.
Some people are going to lose a lot of money here.
Did they believe Kay?
I doubt it. It’d take a complete moron to believe anything he says because he constantly retracts or contradicts himself.
More likely than not, they believed someone who fraudulently portrayed themselves as a professional, gained their trust, and got them to buy so they could get out.
And they’re going to lose a whole lot of money.
If you walked up to almost anyone and said “ohhhhh my stock just lost $0.014 per share” they’d be like “wait...your stock just lost a penny and a half?!”
But yeah... you can lose personal fortunes in that penny and a half and some longs are about to find that out.
DayDreaming counts as DD.
Yup...
All you longs got it right.
SFOR is a multi billion dollar company trading at a penny and a half.
Nobody else has it right!
So what if they’ve never been profitable?
So what if they carry $10 million in known debt with no way to pay it off other than selling shares?!
You know what cracks me the efff up?
All these SFOR longs who SWEAR this will make them millionaires are all out of money and can’t buy more shares.
If I knew for a fact that a stock was going to explode higher and turn $100 into a million, I’d never ever ever stop buying more of it.
Yet all these F451’ers always seem to be waiting for funds to clear.
I love their stock advice too.
They’re not traders and they’re not pros...but they’ll tell you how to do it every day.
“I’m not a brain surgeon, but let me tell you how to operate on the brain”
SFOR is crap!
Mark Kay sucks and he’s a POS for lying to so many people.
By the way, if you think Mark Kay has been doing this for free for 17 years, you’ve got a screw loose.
He’s been using you longs and shares to fund his annual salary.
Trade SFOR... do not go long SFOR
Wow...
I’m
Shocked!
Shocked I tell you!
How in the world could a billion...no, a multi billion dollar company like SFOR be @ $0.0142?
Shouldn’t the stock be climbing, not falling?
Let me guess... it’s the manipulators?
Or?
Could it be that the handful of SFOR longs (literally, there’s a handful of you GLOBALLY) just have it wrong and bet all their coins on the wrong pony.
You’re ridiculous.
So let me get this straight:
You “invested” (presumption is that it wasn’t a gamble and you actually took hard earned money and threw it at a company with zero profits at that time for over 15 years) in SFOR while the stock had triple zeroes in front of the price.
You’ve held since then and NOTHING has changed...
No profitable revenues.
The only thing that has changed is the share structure and the debt load.
Yet you take the time to come in here and tell us that we are the ones who are full of crap?
Go read SFOR’s twitter feed.
Go read Marks twitter feed.
Come back and tell us (who are looking for genuine, transparent info) that we are full of crap.
Please tell me you’re not using the AA myths as a investment platform with SHLD
SHLD HAS BILLIONS IN DEBT and if they don’t work something out then they are looking at billions in debt turning into more and more billions.
Most of Sears debt is from what?
Do you know?
I’ll answer; most of their debt is from Sears pensioners...yup! From people who worked for Sears and got a retirement out of them.
Now I ask you;
Will retirement costs go up or down in the future?
The absolute best thing Sears can do for Sears is screw over their pensioners.
If you believe for a single second that Sears cares about 73 year old Molly who will lose her home if they stop sending retirement checks then you’re crazy.
Sears is going to file BK.
When they do, this stock will do two things:
The stock will very briefly reflect Maytag and properties valuations. Then it will crater
During the BK the stock will go towards $0.0001.
The ticker will get that 0h so awesome BK attached to it
And then the common shares will be wiped out.
Good luck
You’re joking, right?
If they file for BK their shares become worthless.
Even if they come out of BK, their shares will be wiped out and they’ll issue new shares that aren’t linked to these shares in any way
If you’re holding this stock you’re going to either lose money, or lose more money.
The guy is on twitter and can’t even answer a question that’s not private, insider info.
Let’s see;
Should I buy and go long a company that is trading at 400X revenue or just trade it from time to time?
You:
“I’m going to go long and bet the farm”
Me:
I think I’ll just trade it from time to time
You think
I’m FOS on their delinquent loans?!?!?
WTF!!!!
It’s in their SEC filings !!!!
Holy crap!
Holy crapola!!
It VERY LITERALLY STATES IN THEIR 10K that they ARE DELINQUENT ON DEBT!
WTF is going on with you?!
Ohhh
Maybe you’re prancing me
Good one...
You had me going for a second and made me think you’re stupid
PLEASE TELL
ME YOU ARE JOKING!
Yes!
I have a link!
It’s a link to the SEC where SFOR HAS PUBLICLY FREAKING DOCUMENTED THAT THEY SELL SHARES!
Holy crap man...
There’s no way you’re serious about this post. You wrote it just for a reaction.
Just in case you wrote this post and were being serious;
SFOR HAS PUBLICLY STATED that they do not earn enough revenue to survive as a company. In doing so, the included that they will sell shares, for a profit to them, to anyone who’d buy them.
Cmon man...
Please please please tell me you’re joking with the whole “provide a link” bit. Please tell me you’re smarter than that.
You’re joking, right?
I’ve got more proof that SFOR isn’t worth $0.01 than you have proof that it’s worth more than $0.0177.
Wanna take a go at it?
I’ll start.
SFOR has ZERO earned cash on hand.
Every penny that SFOR has in the bank is from a loan.
SFOR has never had a profitable revenue quarter.
SFOR’s debt is not being paid off. To point a fact, they’re delinquent in loans.
SFOR keeps selling shares or offering shares for cash (a point that will be made painfully clear in November)
Your turn:
(If you don’t mind... can you please stick to facts. All of mine are facts. So if you start saying “they’ll win lawsuits, or “Blocksafe will make them money...none of those are facts”
So?
Go ahead...
I’m waiting
I’m being told that SFOR is getting money from Uncle Sam because SFOR will be the first and only OOBA on Mars when we land there.
We already landed on the Sun and we’re the first OOBA there. We had to land at night so we wouldn’t get burned, so I am told.
Hell keep doing it as long as NONE OF YOU hold his feet to the flame.
It’s funny to me;
Im nothing more than an activist investor.
If you’re a CEO and you make claims, I expect you to stay true to those claims. When you walk those claims back and say stuff that just isn’t true or never happens over and over again and I call you out on it suddenly I’m a basher?!?
What kind of world is that?
It’s like a stock market game of catfish.
I’m 6’2 and fit. I’m blonde with hazel eyes.
If we agreed to meet and when you met me I was 5’5, dumpy and fat with brown eyes YOU’D SCREAM CATFISH!!
But here, you’re being told by Mark that SFOR is Adonis (look it up, a real thing) when it’s a 5’5” dumpy and fat old man and you’re not all screaming from rooftops to get change?
Cmon?!?!
Lol...
This made me literally laugh!
Yup...
Mark Kay is being told from the F451 board that deals are done and profitable revenues are coming soon.
Holy crap!
I just read the F451 board!
Deals are done!
They’re even telling Mark Kay they’re done and he’s tweeting about them being done, or “so he’s been told”
Hilarious...
You can’t make this stuff up.
This is real.
This guy literally said that and people are actually believing it and taking it as gospel.
I bet some people are even telling their wife or husband “I know it’s real this time because Mark Kay just tweeted that he’s being told so”
Holy crap....
I mean HOLY EFFING CRAP!
Brooklyn,
Thanks and good luck to you as well.
I believe the Blocksafe deal is a shareholders boondoggle.
The way the Blocksafe is a subsidiary of SFOR, a public company, but Blocksafe is private blocks transparency.
I disagree that Blocksafe isn’t wholly priced in.
SFOR is trading at a $47 million dollar market cap.
Let that sink in for a minute. $47 million dollar market valuation for a company that has never seen a profitable quarter in nearly 18 years of being publicly traded and with Mark Kay at the helm for 15 of those years.
You may call me a basher but if you’d read precisely what I’m saying and sometimes between the lines you’d see that I want:
1.) Transparency
2.) Accountability
3.) Performance
4.) Honesty
These are 4 of the many things I expect from an investment grade stock. Until I get AT LEAST those things from a company then they remain a trading device and not a “long investment stock” that I blindly hold for years and years.
Anyway...
Listen... with major banks cracking down on penny stocks (pretty big news out of Wall Street today regarding penny stocks) they’re going to become less liquid.
As penny stocks become less liquid it’s more important than ever that you really scrutinize the quality of the penny stock companies you’re investing in.
Imagine waking up to an email or message from your brokerage saying “you can trade SFOR, you just can’t trade them here”.
Major banks are limiting purchases of penny stocks and straight up banning the sale of penny stocks. They’re saying you can still buy and sell them, just not using them.
So take care.
Look bro, I don’t care what you believe or what you think about me, because you don’t know me.
SFOR is headed lower and if you really think about it, you’d agree that it should head lower.
2.35 billion shares trading at $0.02 is a crazy, ludicrous valuation for a company with zero profits and less than $500K in revenues every year.
Their revenue costs them hundreds of thousands EVERY quarter which is why their debt clings quarter after quarter and year after year.
The only reason this company has survived over the years is because they use investors through shares for debt deals.
They’ve diluted longs so many times and have hid those dilutive measures with reverse split after reverse split to make the shares appear to have value.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this stock fell back below $0.01 and then has to reverse split again to keep the share price back above $0.01 so they don’t lose their QB status.
Are there things that can give this stock a bump? Sure...but they aren’t worth the ride down while watching losses grow or profits shrink.
No.
They need to stay above $0.01 to be listed on the OTC QB.
SFOR can fall 50% from here and barely even lose their QB rating as long as they recover back to over $0.01
This is the best.
So I sold @$0.195 and got plenty of hate PM’s.
I even said $0.0189 was coming and got plenty of public and private “I hate you” messages.
Some dude even said “I’m going to transfer some money and buy your $0.0195’s and you’ll be sorry”
Today...
$0.0178
It’s going to go lower.
Mark Kay is going to laugh all the way to the bank because he doesn’t care what the share price is because he’s selling shares at more than 60% discounts to get a paycheck.
I think it’s absolutely hilarious...
I get PM’s from TRADERS who say “I’ve held SFOR since $0.000X.
Why are they holding?
The whole point is to make money, right?
You’re not making money if you’re not selling for profit.
It’s like they actually believe they’re “ground floor” to the next Nasdaq AAPL.
You’re not!
This penny stock scheme has been around since 2001 and Mark has been selling “magic beans” since 2003.
They all deserve red and I wonder how much they’ll brag when Mark signs his next “shares for cash” deal and dilutes this pig back to the $0.000x’s.
Maybe they’ll send me pm’s saying “yeah! I bought this at $0.000X and rode it up to $0.0295 then back down and back up and then back down and never sold a single share because flippers are stupid”
Good luck with that.
I call lower.
Lower bro and here’s why;
SFOR is trading at a multiple that is not sustainable and your beloved Mark Kay won’t publish anything to keep this bubble.
So it’ll go down.
Whatever profits you have in SFOR; you’re going to be in the stands watching those profits shrink.
Have fun with that.
Give me one thing...
Give me one concrete thing.
One concrete reason to buy back and go long besides “you’ll be sorry”.
Lol...
You’re going to ride this thing all the way down aren’t ya?
Money from ACS?
Do you really believe that Mark Kay has been doing SFOR for 15 years for free?
Have fun with your $0.018’s
Called it last week
On Friday. It hit $0.019 but didn’t dip into the $0.018’s
Today it did though... so I’m happy about that
Lol...
It’s funny that you have to transfer money to buy a penny stock.
Have at em champ.
This is the best ever.
What a good trade.
Anyone want to gobble up the last 139k of mine?
I mean... you all know what you own right?
Someone already got 621k of them...(lucky dog you)
So why not pick up the rest? They’re right there on L2.
Grab em.
Mark Kay will make you rich tomorrow...
Well..not tomorrow, maybe the next day...
Well.. maybe in the last half of 2018.
Oh...
Wait, we are already in the last half of 2018.
No worries.
2019 is SFOR’s year
Ohhhh
It’s too bad...
Blocksafe is actually a subsidiary of SFOR but Blocksafe isn’t self sufficient which means SFOR is paying their bills.
Every time George Waller turns on a light in his Blocksafe office down the hall from Mark, Mark writes a check.
That means that SFOR, as Q3 draws to a close and isn’t earning any money must rely on shareholders to foot the bill.
But that was the plan all along.
Enjoy red trading days.
Thanks for the meaningless link tho... it proves one truly is born every minute