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YES YOU ARE!
If you bought at $0.30 and didn’t sell even when it was at $2.00
Or $1.50
Or $1.20
Then yes you have been losing.
WHY DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!?!?!
You’re talking to me like you’re king because you bought at $0.30 while you “lose” all your profits.
It’s hilarious to me to read that you’re not losing because instead of being up 2000% you’re up 300% and yet…you’re not losing!
When I posted that, GNUS was at $1.23
It’s now at $1.01
If you’ve owned the stock you’ve been losing.
Whatever
Enjoy your losses
Fools gold here.
There’s an episode of Little House on The Prairie about fools gold.
That’s what you’re chasing here.
This stock (GNUS) is fools gold.
I’m literally laughing at your prediction
Lolololol
That 10Q certainly wasn’t the “shorts” buster some thought it would be…
It Cost GNUS nearly $4.00 for every $1.00 they earned in revenue.
Didn’t see the headline on those skyrocketing coats now did ya?
This company is pure garbage…actually, the management of this company is garbage. If GNUS was ran by anyone who’s not a fraud itd probably do quite well for shareholders.
Ohhhh
Uh huh…
I see.
The the pump was ahead of what was supposed to be positive news and the subsequent and ongoing dump was because the news wasn’t so positive?
Now I get it…iHubbers like you are so wise in the way you rationalize a 40% drop in share price after an “accretive” deal is announced.
Got it.
I hope your second day of investing is better than day one was.
Lol @ accretive…and LMFAO because it’s an opinion piece written penned by someone who doesn’t know what accretive means.
If this were truly accretive would the share price plunge from + $2.20 to $1.35 today in two short weeks?
This deal is not accretive and it never will be.
It was “cash and stock” and in the weeks/months or years to come it’ll be interesting to see what portion was cash and what portion was stock/common shares.
lol…
This stock soared on BS and now it is eating sh!t.
Down from well over $2.10 to less than $1.50 is a > 25% drop from recent highs.
I feel bad for peeps who bought up there without looking into GNUS.
They’ll very likely never break even and God help them if they try to average down and throw good money after bad.
It doesn’t make any sense at all from a GNUS shareholders perspective.
GNUS is bleeding cash on a quarterly and annual basis.
Just to survive they very heavily diluted the common shares and this WOW deal does not (AFTER WOW EBITDA) even turn GNUS into a near term profitable per share investment.
A very clear example is that the most recent quarter (MRQ) very clearly showed a loss per share of $0.02 on 300,600,000 shares or over $6.5 million.
WOW’s EBITDA annually doesn’t even cover a quarter of the annual losses (2020 and YTD) for GNUS.
They’re throwing $53 million dollars into WOW and it is only accretive to the extent THAT MAYBE if GNUS actually runs their company responsibly that they may come close to breakeven versus continued losses.
In other words…today’s 20% haircut may simply have been a haircut for a person who is going bald anyway.
Okay Rick…
I disagree with WOW. Yes their revenue is easy enough to find and so are their EBITDA info showing a near 10X multiple on earnings.
Don’t make the mistake of basing a purchase multiple off of revenues.
Any company that makes $200 million in revenue but that revenue cost $300 million is not worth a $200 million purchase price.
WOW is not worth their revenue for a purchase.
WOW is worth breakeven or a multiple of profitable earnings. In this case it appears that GNUS is paying a hefty multiple for WOW’s EBITDA.
Lol @ noting an edit while you’re writing a post.
How about you just go back and make appropriate additions or corrections while you’re typing your post unless…
Ohhhh I see…
For some reason you think that writing it that way somehow makes it seem that much more credible.
WOW is garbage. GNUS is paying $53 million for a garbage company with cartoons that are outdated.
That is why the stock is cratering and has fallen from over $2.00 per share to $1.50 in two days.
PERIOD!
GNUS revenues (GNUS IS THE COMPANY DOING THE BUYING HERE) are at a constant loss to shareholders.
GNUS loses money every quarter and wouldn’t have a penny if it weren’t for dilutive share offerings and convertible debts.
GNUS is garbage. Hold or buy here at your own risk.
Lololol
Hey folks???
LMFAO at “cash and shares”
Oh really?
What cash?
All of the shares needed to buy WOW OF COURSE WILL MASSIVELY DILUTE shareholders!
Holding on to this stock or buying it right now is pure insanity.
May as well pick up a bottle clearly marked with 3 BIG BOLD X’s at the top and a skull and crossbones in the middle and drink up.
Lololol
Not going to make any money here. If you’re lucky and smart you’ll cap off any losses and sell before the losses are too big to sell.
I’m glad it worked out for you
Let’s say you bought in Jan of this year. It is a long term investment for you and you hate traders.
Well…
According to my chart you’ve lost money.
But
Of course you’re not that guy.
You’re the guy who bought in January at a $1.50 price area and sold near $3.00…not once but twice!
Sheesh
A 30 day chart you’ve lost but not much…10%…around there.
A 90 day chart things get a little more clear and you’re down 30%
180 day chart? You’re down about 40%
A 1 year chart??? You’re flat!
(Hey! You’re the one who asked which charts I’m looking at!)
Unless of course you’re the perfect trader who got those three’s and sold the $1.50’s
But of course if you were that good you wouldn’t be in here. You’d be off sailing the world…unless you’re just the freaking Robin Hood of TIME and would rather give some time to the little people instead of being on your private flying to someplace…
ABSOLUTE GARBAGE STOCK.
GNUS has shown a trend that your downside risk is 100% with very limited upside potential.
Investing your money is no different than parking your ass on a snow-sled while pointing uphill.
And they haven’t figured out how to turn those increased revenues into profitable revenues which is why GNUS shares remain under pressure.
They’ll remain under pressure until they can prove that they know how to turn content into profitable revenue.
All of this content (as shown in the Most Recent Quarter) MRQ costs millions of dollars per quarter. Without profitable revenue it won’t be long until GNUS is broke again.
Shorting isn’t ruining a company and putting people out of work.
Shorting simply is one of several ways to say;
1.) I don’t like the company. Shorts didn’t put Theranos out of business. Lies and fraud did.
2.) I think the price of this stock is too high for earnings per share, revenues, profits, and guidance.
3.) They’re doing well now and it’s nothing personal but I see the market correcting and a falling tide generally lowers all ships.
I don’t know why people take others opinions about a bad stock they bought so personally.
A short position or a bearish view isn’t a personal attack.
OPTI sucks. Plain and simple. They’re poorly managed and the stock is supremely overvalued at this price.
You don’t got to take it personally.
If you were right and OPTI soared tomorrow I wouldn’t hold it against you for me being wrong.
So far though, the shorts have gotten it right, you’ve been wrong, and you feel a need to lash out because you were wrong?
Good luck with that trading mentality.
I actually agree with you, and their claims of a long term plan.
I also believe that in the very near term that they’ve not proven that they know how are can’t yet monetize their shows.
Think of them like Facebook or Google long term. In the beginning they were nothing more than DotComs after the DotCom bubble burst.
Both of those companies learned and proved that they could turn ads and content into very profitable revenue.
Right now, as it stands they’re only spending. Yes they’re spending to have growth but right now all they’re doing is losing money, then raising money through share offerings.
I’ll stay in my short position.
There are multiple ways of saying you don’t like a company or that you like them but think their stock is overpriced.
One of those ways is to not buy the stock. Another way is to sell the stock if you own it. A third way is to sell them short.
It’s nothing personal to say I don’t like GNUS right now.
All they have to do is discuss profitable monetization of their platform and business and I’ll close my short position and consider going long.
I could go long with Call options. I could buy the stock…the point is is that if I was in here saying I bought calls or shares nobody would be getting snarky or outright mean with me…that is of course unless those bullish posts proved to be dead wrong just like so many of the posts I’ve read in here.
$0.04 more lower and I’m ITM.
Anyone holding this stock long needs to realize that a year ago this stock was under a buck FOR A REASON!
When it rallied from $0.05 to nearly $12.00 it was not for any fundamental reason.
It rallied purely on hype.
Now all those people who hyped it up are watching this stock slowly bleed them to death.
As a person with professional ties to Fire and EMS I think it’s great.
As a professional investor none of it means anything because what we’ve seen from GNUS is that they engage in these very expensive endeavors and they haven’t figured out how to earn a reasonable profit.
This stock isn’t under pressure because of shorts.
16% of the float is short. The cash that they have isn’t organic. It’s from a massively dilutive share offering last year.
When you burn shareholders with that kind of dilution it’s a red flag for new investors.
GNUS stock price was in the nose bleed section at >$11.00 per share. They should have sold 4X less shares up at $11.00 instead of burning investors to the ground while continuing to sell shares at $2.50.
Short this stock.
OTM@$1.00 SP.
In 23 years I’ve never been wrong.
This company keeps talking about spending money they never earned.
The $140 million? Yeah…nearly $100 million that they have is from selling shares a year ago. They didn’t earn it. They crushed shareholders and sold $100 million in shares.
Short this crap
This stock is done!
GNUS can’t seem to figure out the basics.
They make announcements about hiring people like it’s a good thing when they’re only able to hire people because they issued over $90 million in shares.
Look at all of their recent announcements.
Every announcement is about them spending money that they didn’t earn through revenues.
Every penny they’ve spent is from diluting shareholders via selling shares.
Producing cartoons costs money. They’ll announce that they’ve produced shows but not announce how they’ll turn those productions into revenue.
It’s no wonder that the stock has been under constant pressure.
I’m selling my shares with a nice profit and it’s also an easy short.
It would have been great to see GNUS management step to the plate and say “our stock has a $447 million dollar market cap and this is how we’re going to make that a true value”
Instead of relying on a meme stock following that never existed
Mark told me IN PERSON that cash wasn’t a problem.
I asked because I was concerned. It looked like they were running out of money in the bank.
Mark assured me that they had deals that were going to bring them cash.
A week later they announced in an 8K that SFOR had entered into a debt agreement for $240,000.
That’s when I sold and to this day only trade the stock.
I tried to warn people.
That day the stock price got cut in half and it hasn’t looked back since.
I check meme posts on multiple boards regularly.
I’ve never once seen SFOR in any of them.
The “amc’s” and “gme’s” of the market had a few things in common that SFOR simply doesn’t have:
1.) They were widely held.
2.) They had enormous short positions with multiple values and one value was that the short positions were OTM.
SFOR has neither of those.
SFOR is very thinly held and very thinly traded.
SFOR doesn’t have the short positions.
I wish everyone who’s holding the very best of luck. I just wish people would look at their hand and see they’re holding nothing and hoping for a miracle.
I’ve never lost money with SFOR.
To point out a very easily verifiable fact; I bought when they were at $0.0012 and rode them to nearly $0.03 before selling at $0.0278 after Mark Kay lied directly to me.
I trade SFOR and have never once sold for a loss.
My trades are easily searchable…knock yourself out if you have that kind of time.
What I know is this: SafeVChat is just the latest “craze” or buzzword.
It’s absolutely no different than when people just like you hopped on the SFOR blockchain bandwagon…
Look how that turned out for those “longs”.
Ram?
Ram is nothing. He’s one of about 200 million code writers out there who all swear they’ve got the next best thing.
Ram is basically introducing a new form of a hooded blanket that comes with sleeves in a market filled with every housewife out there claiming to have the best blanket that comes with a hood and sleeves.
My opinion:
Why should they even care about revenues?
They all get 6 figure paychecks every single year regardless of revenues because they keep using shares to pay bills and their salaries.
What I agree with you (among other things) is that dummies who are suddenly astute capital markets traders throw money at this.
Make no mistake; Claims about due diligence and doing their own research are idiotic.
An ounce of actual research would reveal that SFOR uses shares. SFOR uses retail shareholders. If SFOR wasn’t a public company they would have shut the doors 18 years ago.
SFOR relies and survives solely on issuing shares or offering convertible debt features to survive every single year.
For crying out loud… if I owned a lemonade stand and went into the red every single week I’d have to shut it down UNLESS I had a constant flow of outside investors who believed in the dream I was selling them.
If SFOR were a private company you and I and others would not be talking about them today. They would have turned off the lights, locked the door, handed over the keys and filed for BK nearly two decades ago.
But no. They’re a public company skirting the reach of the SEC and FBI through the use of a “forward looking” statement disclosure.
They’ve robbed thousands of investors.
What keeps SFOR alive? The hopes that “this time I’ll have finally picked a winner” types of investors who swear that SFOR is finally going to make good.
The worst part?
Mark Kay in any given private email exchange will encourage but not encourage those investors that the next big thing is coming “soon” and those investors believe it.
Then those investors come in here and claim to have done due diligence when they haven’t.
Want proof?
Next time someone says they’ve done their due diligence and didn’t walk away…there is your proof.
Anyone who’s done any due diligence would IMMEDIATELY SEE SFOR as nothing more than a share based Ponzi scheme that only enriches the guys at the top while costing everyone below them every penny of their investment.
Convertible debt taken care of? Yes…to the best of our knowledge.
But HOW with zero profits?
Cash in the coffers? Yes…and that’s great BUT HOW with zero profits?
The answer to both of those questions is SHARE OFFERINGS!
They offer shares at a discount to market prices for qualified investors. Once the offerings have closed they have the nerve to announce big bank accounts and huge amounts of cash on hand as if it were because of profitable operations.
I wish you nothing but the best. I look at SFOR as nothing more than quick flip trade worthy.
In my opinion after years of either investing or trading SFOR here’s what my take-a-way is with SFOR:
They have yet (20 years) to report a profitable quarter from sales and general operations. They have relied on shares to pay their bills and make sure they’re all earning six (6) figures.
You’re a shareholder who is more likely to be diluted into oblivion while Mark Kay and George and Ram earn six (6) figures in salary while never issuing an 8K regarding profits or a 10Q or 10K showing a profitable quarter or year.
An 8K is used to publicly disclose a material event.
Given the FACT that SFOR has never had a profitable quarter or year from operations and sales it stands to reason that any profitable quarter would warrant an 8K. Under SEC rule a profitable quarter requires an 8K.
No 8K…expect more of the same; quarterly losses for this quarter.
Historically for every $1.00 they’ve earned it’s cost them between $3.00 and $5.00 to earn it.
I don’t expect any change from that.
If they earned a historic amount of revenue this last quarter they’ll shout it from the rooftops! What they will whisper is how much that revenue cost.
Sorry brother…
Seen it too many times with Mark Kay.
Krull?
I didn’t see him sign any paperwork. He didn’t buy shares. He didn’t opt in to a partnership.
His lip service has nothing to do with the fact that SFOR will continue to report un-timely quarterly results where they spent more than they earned.
My guess is spent 5 (five) and earned 1 (one)
You can feel free to keep betting on a stock that has burned investors for over 20 years.
Can you even believe that?
It’s true. SFOR has been led by Mark Kay near 20 years and never once has ever had a profitable quarter.
SFOR survives by issuing stock and conning retail mom and pops investors.
Don’t believe me?
Do your own DD and scour their SEC filings. Not a single profitable quarter in 20 years.
I’ll help you out.
Forget about the 10Q’s.
Just look at the 10K’s.
They’ve never once had a profitable year. They’ve survived entirely off of issuing shares.
Good luck man… you’ll need it.
This thing should be soaring…
It’s not.
I’m green on the trade. I’d hoped to hold it for much higher ground but I’ll take green over hopes and wishes any day.
Bye
Lol…
SFOR has engaged with the Aite Group…
So the eff what?!?
What the heck does “engage” with mean?
You or I can “engage” with anyone at a dinner party.
Engage can mean as little as “hi, how are you?
I’m fine. I’m with The Aite Group…
Oh…nice… how’s the lobster bisque?”
Efff you Mark
Next time I “engage” you you’ll not have a chance to ask about the lobster bisque before I call you out on your constant lies to shareholders.
Lol…
Nationwide there have been 150 million vaccinated people.
J&J helped vaccinate millions and people come out of the weeds with pre-existing disorders and claim that they were fine, then got vaccinated.
I don’t think you understand how the reporting system works.
Here’s a simple breakdown: They have to report ANY reported “link” to a vaccination.
OPTI is trash and it’s always been trash.
Did you know there’s no such thing as a fuel optimizer. Nothing can make fuel that’s properly mixed burn more optimally. It’s literally been scientifically debunked.
The myth is that “those evil oil companies don’t want you to know about this fuel saving secret”.
The truth is they don’t care.
The iWand? Look at the real reviews. You have to wave this thing over your laptop keyboard for over 30 seconds to kill some of (if any were ever there) viruses.
I’d personally rather use my keyboard and then wash my hands. I’d also rather limit who the Hell else is using my laptop or computer.
Opti is a scam plain and simple.
Don’t take my word for it…just like Dorothy followed the yellow brick road, you should follow the stocks chart.
Lol@ getting added to the Russell 3000 today and not a peep out of GNUS anywhere on social media.
Talk about a lame-ass management team.
First... there is zero proof that this jackoff is actually the real douchebag that screwed his employees.
The real Sinensky deserves a new birthmark.
Second... it’s a scam.
One of his friends or family members will get the Disney prize...meanwhile, countless idiots will retweet his bull crap free of charge while the OPTI share price drops relentlessly.
Spending lots of money?
Didn’t Optec just ink a $70 million dollar deal using shareholder equity?
One wrong move on Twitter can get you banned.
Real investors think Twitter is fun but they use Press Releases, 8K’s, 10Q’s, and 10K’s for real info.
Lol
I just thought of a million dollar best seller while I was writing a post I just deleted.
Bottom line...
You OPTI longs are going to lose a lot of money.
C’mon man...they’re using Twitter for “social outreach”.
Does Apple use Twitter for social outreach ?
Name a legitimate Nasdaq company that uses Twitter to get more investors.
This stock should be absolutely SOARING.
Typically, any stock being added to any index sees a monster run.
Then once added it cools off. Stocks added to an index usually even retrace after the addition date.
This stock is seeing weird pressure on it. The pressure on the share price from climbing isn’t normal.
To make matters worse, GNUS execs have been oddly quiet with the exception of some new “kartoon” that’s due to come out.
Investors don’t really care about that. Maybe some of of us have kids that actually watch this type of programming but investors want Tweets and Press Releases that are forward looking and accretive to shareholder value. We haven’t seen that kind of Tweet or Press Release or 8k in some time.
Get on it GNUS!
Lol...
That was the biggest “The Emperor Has No Clothes” video/story I’ve seen in a long long time.
And you jumped right on board. You see silk and spun gold threads while a few of us see that the emperor is parading around full of hubris and totally naked.
Sinensky is as bad as Pawson.
He doesn’t care about shareholders or transparency. He came in here to do the same thing he does on Twitter which is to bully anybody who questions the legitimacy of WeShield, Optec, or the deal between the two.
He bullies investors who are simply questioning what they are being told by himself or Pawson that isn’t backed up with 8K’s or results in 10Q’s.
The pre-recorded garbage from last week was exactly that...PURE GARBAGE and both Pawson and Sinensky should be professionally and personally embarrassed. It was a snowflake cop-out con job video.
Why else to do you all think OPTI stock remains under pressure. What’s worse is these OPTI/WeShield clowns actually think that tweets like “are you ready for Monday?!” will actually carry a stock that will be highly diluted.
The stock market is a FORWARD LOOKING ENTITY.
If Pawson and Sinensky ink a deal that is dilutive but not until “the future” then nobody is going to do more than swing trade and not hold. Who in their right mind would actually invest and hold a stock that has signed a deal THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLY DILUTIVE?!?