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You have been 100% wrong so often and so consistently, one could set their clocks to it. You would think by now you wouldn't want to venture publicly anymore with zero correct prediction but guess you can't help yourself. These are just a small percentage of them. Not a single one right...
Apparently not only has vplm scammed you into all those shares with none ever sold by you, but Carnac has also scammed you.
It's pretty funny actually. Thanks for your fair share of the entertainment.
If and when vplm DOES actually have some real news to actually occur, it'll be more of those pesky monkey wrenches. Anyway, keep trying, your bound to get a hit one of these days.....
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Carnac just stopped by and said to be ready for something big that will come by the end of next week
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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 10:05:27 AM
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Related to court dates, my interest is in those that have been waiting for a new adjusted date by Albright and have yet to be scheduled. The long wait should tell everyone that the Albright rocket docket is stalled for a likely very good reason. Watch for a possible huge surprise at the end of this month.
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ATTENTION EVERYONE : Just confirmed on Stocktwits hub that Google, Samsung and Meta all settled related to 234 and 721 patents. Will try to send legal files. All settlement detail is not published and to be kept between parties
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Will the 24th be historical? We shall see.
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Sunday, July 16, 2023 4:41:55 PM
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Thanks. Very insightful. Speaking of insightful, Carnac gives his regards and also says that the 24th could be very interesting. He noticed a key point that Emil listed in only one of the somewhat repetitive news releases this month, which he believes is the true nail in the coffin that Hudnell was successful at winning for vplm. He also believes big news will be coming out before the next quarterly financials are released.
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you are right on and laying out a scenario that matches my beliefs also. To add to that scenario I contribute the following:
- I believe that Amazon wants to hit the industry with news of their MAJOR cellular focus during their annual event on August 11th.
- In order to have all their ducks in a row and hold these key patents by that time, a major effort by vplm to close all pending legal action has been initiated. Hudnell is tasked now with Amazon, Verizon and T-Mobile cases and Huff (having expert legal expertise with Asian infringement cases) has been assigned to handle the Huawei case.
- I believe that vplm will reap both the infringement rewards from cases that have been negotiated to close and also add a healthy gain from a total sale.
- Actions over the next two weeks will confirm my prediction.
Bullish
BULLISH
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Carnac told me BIG announcement coming our way TODAY !!!! Hold on to your hats or big fluffy swami headpieces.
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Too much talk that clouds the coming week. Just remember “It’s the patents stupid”. Shock and awe coming soon
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Try as you will, you can’t shake up the scenario of a very huge week ahead for the sake of getting more shares at a lower price level. Why should the CEO or his wife sweat any small stock sale (to them) when they have nearly a billion shares between them. That’s like the sells all you shorts are making on a daily basis compared to what you own. You better just prepare for the HUGE event coming and hold while you can.
Emil Malak Net Worth & Insider Trades
Emil Malak - CEO, Voip-Palcom Inc
As of July 17, 2023
What is Emil Malak's Net Worth?
The current estimated net worth of Voip-Palcom Inc's CEO, Emil Malak, is estimated to be about $15.15M. Emil Malak owns about 159,590,142 units of Voip-Palcom Inc common stock. In the last 5 years at Voip-Palcom Inc, Emil Malak has sold an estimated value of $11.73M worth.
What is Emil Malak's Past Insider Trading?
Emil Malak's largest sale order was 513,535,229 units, worth over $10.78M on April 22, 2021. In total, Emil Malak has made about 13 transactions over 5 years of their time at Voip-Palcom Inc. Emil Malak usually trades in December, with the busiest year in 2018.
EMIL MALAK
Applied Filters:
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Type
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VPLM
ACQUISITION
$138.42
$0.00
138.42K
Jul 17, 2023
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VPLM
ACQUISITION
$12.16K
$0.10
121.61K
Mar 13, 2023
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VPLM
ACQUISITION
$47.5K
$0.10
475K
Jun 13, 2022
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VPLM
GRANT
$129.59K
$0.00
-129.59M
Dec 9, 2021
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VPLM
GRANT
$30K
$0.00
-30.00M
Sep 1, 2021
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VPLM
P
$10.78M
$0.02
-513.54M
Apr 22, 2021
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VPLM
GRANT
$674.53K
$0.00
-674.53M
Dec 21, 2020
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8
VPLM
GRANT
$76.91K
$0.00
-76.91M
Mar 27, 2020
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VPLM
ACQUISITION
$85K
$0.04
2.13M
Jan 8, 2019
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10
VPLM
GRANT
$2.2K
$0.00
-2.20M
Dec 18, 2018
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11
VPLM
ACQUISITION
$5.78M
$0.02
253.96M
Dec 7, 2018
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VPLM
DISPOSITION
$189.1K
$0.01
-900.00K
Nov 26, 2018
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VPLM
ACQUISITION
$3M
$0.01
116.29M
Jul 18, 2018
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What is Emil Malak's' Mailing Address?
Mailing address is 773 Hornby Street Vancouver A1 V6Z1S4 British Columbia, Canada
What are Voip-Palcom Inc's Past Insider Trades?
Voip-Palcom Inc's most recent insider trade came on September 18, 2023 by Dennis Chang who sold 406,250 units worth $9.74K. In the last 2 years, insiders at Voip-Palcom Inc have sold an estimated value of $16.78M and bought an estimated value of $10.7M worth of shares. Insider trading is most common in May and July, with the busiest year in 2023. The most active traders at the company are Barbara Baggio, Dennis Chang, Director, and Emil Malak, CEO.
Voip-pal.com Inc Insider Trades
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Dennis Chang
SELL
$9.74K
$0.02
-406.25K
Sep 18, 2023
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Kevin Williams
SELL
$6K
$0.02
-250.00K
Sep 18, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$29.83K
$0.02
-1.20M
Sep 18, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$26.69K
$0.03
-1.02M
Sep 8, 2023
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Dennis Chang
SELL
$7.98K
$0.03
-300.00K
Sep 8, 2023
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Kevin Williams
SELL
$9.75K
$0.03
-325.00K
Sep 8, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$29.4K
$0.03
-1.16M
Sep 5, 2023
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8
Dennis Chang
SELL
$12.58K
$0.03
-500.00K
Sep 5, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$30.75K
$0.03
-1.17M
Aug 28, 2023
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10
Kevin Williams
SELL
$8.21K
$0.03
-293.13K
Aug 25, 2023
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Dennis Chang
SELL
$13.15K
$0.03
-500.00K
Aug 25, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$7.98K
$0.03
-300.00K
Aug 21, 2023
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Kevin Bryan Williams
SELL
$9.77K
$0.03
-370.95K
Aug 21, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$14.22K
$0.04
-365.00K
Aug 1, 2023
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Dennis Chang
SELL
$7.82K
$0.03
-250.00K
Jul 28, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$37.67K
$0.03
-1.28M
Jul 28, 2023
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Dennis Chang
SELL
$19.46K
$0.03
-600.00K
Jul 24, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$42.69K
$0.04
-1.20M
Jul 21, 2023
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Kevin Williams
SELL
$17.14K
$0.04
-451.02K
Jul 21, 2023
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Barbara Baggio
SELL
$44.38K
$0.04
-962.05K
Jul 17, 2023
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1000%... So that means you apologize for your conclusions x10
Wow. I find your post bizarre. You feel like you have to apologize for an otherwise honest, heartfelt, well laid out, covering of a good many bases. It was as if you think that this msg board is only here for those whose sentiment is positive and only post positive thoughts and observations despite anything that might legitimately exist to the contrary. Ridiculous...Pollyanna is usually discarded after kindergarten.
You obviously have reached your conclusions, which I think you nailed every nail squarely on the head, and yet....what?....you feel like you have to bow down and apologize to the peeps on the board (fewer and fewer everyday, in light of and because of the points you made above, who see it completely different than you) whom are not just in total opposition, but whom show less than zero respect for opposing opinions and who daily ridicule and belittle, deride, namecall and berate those who are not or no longer pro vplm? I agreed with all you said, even tho my main reasons for being negative on vplm is because I don't believe in the patents viability nor in the infringements for the reasons I've laid out many times, but I felt your bold post was somewhat less legitimized by feeling you had to apologize for the intelligent and perceptive conclusions you reached. Oh I guess you must feel somewhat caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place and felt an apology was the right thing to do, but I saw it as taking away from an otherwise courageous post.
The deal is..... around 3 wks ago, you started saying the price was going sub 2 and I replied that I thought it would stay in the 2 to 2.5 cent range. So far I've been correct about that and that's all I was saying.
Whoa. Switch to decaf! I'm not concerned with ALL THAT, lol. It's not a matter of listening, it's a matter of reading. A week or so ago, you said the price would be dropping down into the 1's. I replied that the way I see it, the price would be staying in the .02 - .025 range and that's exactly what it has done, nothing more, nothing less. Simple.
All that bragging doesn't impress me... Maybe someone else or maybe yourself.
I simply had a small difference of opinion about where pps would be going for awhile. Nowhere. And if it gets froggy, that's fine. Day trading this mess is no longer viable in my opinion, ie, not worth the risk for return.
Like I said, still holding steady pretty much
Absotively, posilutely, inside up and outside down, no bout-a-doubt-it, unwaveringly, you bet your bippy, I'm not kidding, unequivocally, fo sure, fo sure, fo sure................it was, is and will continue to be.............the greed of the inside.
I think
Like I keep saying.......pps has NO WHERE TO GO ANYMORE SO IT AIN'T MUCH MOVING.
You must have patience. You can't rush these things, ya know. Give it a year or 2. The announcement machine is way backed up due to "supply chain issues" and also due to same, manufacturing is at halt. So order now, when they're gone they're gone. Keep in mind these patents are made with the finest Egyptian silk and have been invaded by boll weevils. It's just gonna take some time. Don't forget the hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes and x class solar flares as well. These announcements, unfortunately, do not make themselves and do not grow on trees. Would you care to leave a note in our complaint dept.? Donations are also accepted and for every $100 donation we'll send you this ADORABLE blanket featuring the Charmin bears to remind you of the many uses of of your shares.
Have another day
You can explain it any way you can....but..
You said it would be coming down and I said I thought it would be holding pretty steady at this point.....and that's what I see, the price is holding pretty steady so far. There are more than just the MMs who manipulate the price.
Haha.....i think they saved all they're old "get out of jail free" cards. I used to save mine too, just for the fun of it, but I think my mom threw them away along with the baseball cards.
I wonder if I can sell any of these Emil Malak cards I got?
Price still holding like I said it would...
Oh boy...here we go again....getting messages that indeed, there were some replies.......well, I don't see any.....so it must be from those who have asked to be be ignored...so they were. That's the only explanation I can see.
Anyway, I've crunched the numbers.....and the shares are still a good buy for either wallpaper or toilet paper......unless......you go to like dollar general or something and buy the store brand discounted stuff that would never make it to the Charmin commercials.
I only wanted 50 cents for my FOUNDATIONAL, UNCIRCUMVENTABLE patent shares but I can't even get 5 cents (not that I would take it. I got in cheap, like 2 cents or less but kept on buying on the lying.......hooked by the hype and wound up avg out at almost 8 cents. But since these Emu says the patents are worth trickadickabillions, I'm not taking 5 cents or 8 cents. I'll take 50 cents thankyou very much..... They're all free shares anyway.
Very TELLING........that no one can answer these questions....... but not surprising since they can't be answered without revealing the truth that the patents are nothing more than wallpaper.....cheap wallpaper at that... Well, there could be dumb answers that completely disregard the oh, so obvious fact, which I already loaded into the question, about how the longer any such ALLEGED infringers stall, hahaha haha hahaha hahaha ha hahaha hahaha haha, THE MORE THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY!!!!!............. IN A BIGGER AND BIGGER WAY!!
SOOOOOOOO, for years and years I've seen the dumb idea that the ALLEGED INFRINGERS have the DUMB idea that it's cheaper to steal the patents and use them to peddle their products.........hahahaha....than it is to buy, license or settle........BUT OF COURSE.......THAT is one of the dumbest ideas ever thought of...........WHY?..........BECAUSE when vplm eventually finishes litigating you.........lololololol.........and make no mistake, I'm talking about the ALLEGED infringers who are already in litigation (the rest come later...) they STILL.... STILL... STILL..... STILL will have to pay for what they ALLEGEDLY ripped off EH? I mean it's not as if vplm is gonna say: "ok, you can buy a license and just forget about what you've already ripped off in the kazillions......we'll just be nice and friendly (like our nice and friendly love letter infringement letters were, haha...and let all that slide.....don't even worry about it......we'll just tell the lawyers to subtract all that from their bill.... lol) and it's cool....no worries....we know it represents lots and lots and lots and lots of money........haha.....NO BIGGIE, nah.
And oh, don't worry, we won't ask you to settle all that back OWED MONEY and we won't keep pursuing you in court for damages.....nah, we're not like that.
Yeah, THAT'S the ticket (they ALL say in unison with their borg connected minds), we'll just wait and keep using the patents..... Cuz it's cheaper this way and later we will just ASSIMILATE you. Yeah, thats it!
And don't worry your little heads about the judge or jury or whatever the case might be.........about that ol "treble damages" thingy.......haha, that's just a rumor....an old wives tale. Bwaa haha....hahaha....lolol. The hell with having to settle up the back owed and the hell with treble damages..... Never happen. We're too concerned about our believed shareholders to ever let them have to bear that burden. Nah
So if any of the alleged infringes KNEW they were indeed infringing (they obviously know if they are or aren't, right?), AND........they also obviously know that vplm has NO PROBLEM raising all the cash they need to keep litigating, as they easily have done so for the past 10 yrs or so. THEREFORE....why exactly would the alleged infringes keep waiting to either buy, settle or license?? Do they think it's getting cheaper the longer they holdout??? Do they think it's better to risk triple damages or that or that the purchase price is going down???
I bet one of you that knows far more than me (all of you, right...?)
has the critical thinking answer... I think it's a solid question.
Mr Murphy beckons...... have at it
Anyone who only had the most basic understanding of the full value available to an owner of the patents, would immediately realize that:
#1...vplm, who was supposedly a voip service provider when they obtained (bought) the patents, would most likely hang on to such a bottomless well of treasure for years to come. Duh. By now, around 12 yrs later, they wobe SOOOO rich and powerful, they would practically own the internet and the govt would already be in the middle of litigation to break them up as a monopoly. With such a patent suite there would've been nothing to stop them!
#2... IF....for some reason vplm decided to sell regardless of #1, how could it be possible that every single one of the 60 or so named (then unnamed, lol) big dog voice service providers, plus the additional voip companies that weren't named (many)........could and would and HAVE......all decided, as if in some borg assimilated trance, that they would simply allow any and all of their competition to step up at an moment and grab this fabulous treasure out from under them, causing them to lose all that treasure chest full of riches for years to come, and to be stopped by the new owners from offering any voip services (unless of course they bought licenses) and to be subject to the INEVITABLE meteors with their names on them, hurtling in from space and straight towards them with huge infringement damages, possibly and likely to be as much as tripled???
UNLESS.......UNLESS......UNLESS......UNLESS....... UNLESS.....
of course..............
they had the knowledge....
That they indeed were NOT infringers.........and
that the patents simply were NOT "ALL THAT" as vplm has been on a tear to convince them THEY ARE........
for all these years......
Ahh.....just ignore above.. Means nothing. Not even logical....
It DESERVES.... to recognized for what it is...
To me, all indicators are a share printing, insider ATM and world class fiction writing and share selling scheme that was so well put together and/or developed over time, that yes, it deserves recognition as such..........thus be very careful with very high risk as shown over time, on avg and in general. I don't think it's very flippable these days. While anything in this life is possible, I wouldn't invest in the kazillion dollar buyout, settlements or licensing concepts unless one has money to blow. But if they're that rich, maybe charity would be nice. It'll take alot to get this to pop anymore.
Looks like it held pretty steady to me.
See how they're holding the price like I said...
He seemed to be the most knowledgeable person on this board. I had a few exchanges with him and remember thanking him for his knowledge and sharing info. But at some point, I thought that I had caught him in a contradiction where he seemed to play both sides of a certain issue that I can't recall exactly what it was. Normally he vehemently pro vplm no matter what the issue. Anyway, my memory is I took him to task on this one thing I saw as a conflict but then he disappeared. Seems like that was something like 7 or 8 yrs ago but maybe not that long. I always had the feeling that he simply knew too much about vplm like an encyclopedia. Wonder if that's actually true about being the Rich "inYA pockets" Inya, IR poster boy for failed pennystocks, or so it's been reported anyway.
Hey, why does the pps keep going down? Did it not hear me say that it'll most likely hang around 2 to 2.5 cent range?
I heard that Emil Madgi Malak, CEO and largest shareholder of VPLM stated that name callers are guilty 100% of the time, of being exactly what they name call. The significance of this is it's the 1st and one and only thing he's ever been truthful about. I'll call it "The Gift of the Madgi". Thanx where thanx is due. Can't deny. No truer thing has ever been said.
"Blackout periods", "Aussie mandates", "Whitepaper tenants", "overwhelming interest from ceos of fortune 500 and S&P 500 companies", "imminent offers on the table", "tens of millions of new subscribers", "tens to hundreds of millions of dollars coming immed in royalties", "PRs about PRs about southbank", "the leader of the voip industry", "foundational patents that are required for the use of voip", "every voip service provider out there IS an infringer", "we had nothing to do with the sawyer letters", "Oops, ok, we DID collaborate with sawyer on the letters." Whoops. "I (Emu) will see this trail (avatar) thru to the end (then walks out and concedes on 1st day...... TWICE!", "website puts up some stranger guy picture and claims it's one of the BOD, lol), "Emu now claims in writing that vplm created the patents, except he didn't", "Ran Granville hotel into bk, "Emu claims to be co-founder in cancer research company but there is no mention of it anywhere online except another company by the same exact name that has zero to do with him".
So much more but my fingers say uh-uh.
Interesting that you made the comparison to pyramid schemes aka multi level marketing. While different, I still see some of the same elements and same results. It's more the same than most would think. Also I've described it as something madoff would be proud of. Yep, combo ponzi/pyramid thing that was well thought out and designed to last much longer, which it IS and I give it at least another 7 yrs.
NO COMPANY..... NO VOIP CEO WITH HALF A BRAIN WOULD EVER ALLOW SUCH AN IMMENSELY VALUABLE AND POWERFUL COMPANY OR SET OF PATENTS SIT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TO LET ANY OF THEIR COMPETITION TO GRAB OUT FROM UNDER THEM, THEREBY LOSING AN IMMENSE FORTUNE AND LETTING THEMSELVES BECOME THE SLAVES TO WHOEVER BUYS THEM............... IF THE PATENTS WERE TRULY ALL THEY'VE BEEN CRACKED UP TO BE.........AND KNEW THEY WERE BIG INFRINGERS. DOES NOT ADD UP. DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. DOTS DON'T CONNECT.
For the record.... Vplm has been near the bottom for it's entire 3 ring circus life. During that love em/hate em 23 yrs there were 3 significant spike ups, significant only in their amplitude but each lasting about 20 seconds before doing what vplm does best, which is go down, and it ALWAYS starts the inevitable downtrend just as soon as one of the peaks occur. I should mention the presence on the market, as far as being charted, goes back to 2004 which most ppl don't know. Another thing most don't know is even tho they had different names before Voip-pal, they still were in the voip business almost from day one. Some will dispute that but I have records of voip business going back before 2000.
Anyway, when they 1st appeared on the charts, it was around a dime and then shot straight up to near .40 and thus began their 1st big slide to the bottom where they pretty much stayed for close to 10 yrs when the 2nd big spike happened due to speculation and it hit about 35 cents for a couple seconds, lol, then straight back to the bottom again (for the most part, there's always little ups and downs naturally). The the big one in 2017 I think it was when it hit 45 cents based on the 8 IPR "wins" along with heavy duty pumping. Then was a 5 yr long downtrend to the bottom again. When I say the bottom, their avg price is around 2 cents but they've been sub penny often.
I agree with the characterization of a shell. Might not be technically but to think that a 23 yr old "company" has as their only "product"...... shares, is in my opinion indicative of scaminess ESPECIALLY in light of all the shenanigans that are connected with this company that those with an open mind can see.
Oh, and anyone who tries to tell you that you should "curtail your opinions about vplm" or about ANYTHING for that matter, should themselves not be here.
Ok well then pardon me while I extract from that, lol, a NO vote on buy/no buy, the company. Maybe no one will give me a direct reply and a vote........so, hahaha..... I will TAKE the damn votes, extraction style, based on their OBVIOUS vote, if they weren't so stubborn about it. The TRUTH will not be denied OR veiled. Each AND every shareholder either would or wouldnt buy the company IF THEY HAD THE MONEY and if they WOULD that means something very wrong with the fact no companies HAVE. Can you guess what that "something very wrong" MIGHT BE??? (like maybe bogus patents and zero infringement…?????)........and if they WOULDN'T........considering the vast and untold riches and power that would come with the buy if the patents were "ALL THAT".......shows they already realize, like me, that the patents AIN'T "ALL THAT".
So thankyou for your cooperation! You've been most helpful with your proxy by proxy votes! Ve dun need no stinking ballot box! Your votes are obvious even if you're too shy to vote openly.
So...............thats 2 no votes. You and my vote is easy. And I dare anyone to deny their vote. Lolol. Vplm msg board.... the most entertainment hooman beings should be allowed to have.
Alot to chew on there. More than I bargained for I think, but I'll see what I can digest. One thing I noticed in the 10k was that excerpt I posted earlier, apparently WAS copied from a filing rather than a PR, as it looks like an exact copy of what I posted, but I remember you said the data reported is often just BS that winds up sliding, so what's the point, if you can't believe anything contained therein?
I'll try to extract what may explain my confusion about fiduciary. So far I understand you don't mean in a moral sense but in some legal sense. So far I think it's due to technical reasons... I doubt there's too many shareholders of any stock on any sort of exchange, regardless if technically called a market or not, who aren't pretty certain that the company they buy stock from doesn't have any fiduciary duty, but if it's true that they (the company) does not have said duty due to highly technical rules language, then I guess the recent lawsuit supposedly filed by shareholders, against vplm, is a moot exercise in futility (if even real to begin with, as it could not be found anywhere on the net, aside from some subscription only Bloomberg site, so who knows?
However, are you aware of a couple years old lawsuit against vplm by Locksmith financial, in a civil suit, Malak and the rest of the then current BOD, was found guilty of breach of fiduciary duty and unjust enrichment?
Z, I need to add to last.. In rereading your post, I think I now get it, that you're saying Emu has no fiduciary duty because you see it as a shell. Ok, then I need to ask, and I know this may be a dumb question but is being a company whose only "product" is the shares they create in fiat and then sell, illegal in the 1st place?
Omg......"it's all inbred" remark blew my mind. Best description in 1 word I've ever heard about vplm or any similar kind of play... All I can say is damn, why didn't I think of that, lol.
Hey, don't duck out so fast....you have too much valuable insight.
Excuse me if I missed it, but would you help me to understand better why the CEO does not have said fiduciary duty. I have a real problem with that. Seems inherent and intuitive that he would have that duty to those that made the biggest contributions. And I don't mean from his own moral compass standpoint, I mean from a legal standpoint.
"cynical"??? On the contrary, I find your take of the shenanigans as "questionable" to be waaay overly generous on their behalf. The questions you raise are so close to a fair indictment, not even funny. That said, I have asked a couple peeps their opinion on this question and they seem to refuse to answer it, even tho they have lots to say about the subject. I strive to be as fair and balanced about all things so not that this would make the whole look change BUT........
Do you see evidence that the Babs entered into the selling on the basis of a 10b15-1 or no?
The so called offer from Gil Amelio was as phony as a 3 dollar bill. His (Emu) planned collaboration with Dr Gil, to find a way to boost the pps, was leaked and posted here 1 to 2 months BEFORE the phony announcement of the phony offer. Undeniable..
I agree 100% with all that. Mostly common sense. I believe also that there is a corrupt portion of the sec same as any govt agency that has the power to swoop and take whatever they deem to be appropriate. But as you or someone mentioned earlier today, tho vplm has been able to raise alot of cash, it may still not be what the sec considers worth the trouble. Just pondering...
At the moment, the only thing I have available is this excerpt from a old PR.
"The Company acquired Digifonica in December 2013. Pursuant to the terms in the Share Purchase Agreement (the “SPA”) the Company acquired 100% of Digifonica from the seller, the CEO of the Company (the “Seller”), for a cash payment of $800,000 and 389,023,561 common shares of the Company."
Apologies for the eye straining lack of paragraph breaks. Sometimes I just start with a single point I'd like to make and then it just "takes off" and I forget to insert the breaks. Other times remember to.
I wanted to comment on 1 part at a time here... 1st...
"Whew. Do us a favor and stick some paragraph breaks in there. But I would say you've covered it very very well. I think if you dig around in there too, you may find that no real monetary or 'cash' exchanged hands for pal.“
I gave the rough amt of cash and shares as was reported in the filings to the sec. What else can I go by? Everything mentioned and much more I have documentation for. Sometimes not easy for me to produce due to different drives etc. Standby and I'll take a look/see if I have that. I'm fairly certain I've seen the purchase price paid in both PRs, as you mentioned, and in filings but it's so long ago, now I'm not sure about the filing.
You're probably right as you know light years more than I about this end of things. But still I have a feeling they'll just keep printing more and more shares, nothing to stop them, and firesale-ing them to their support group via all the private placement sales. And then the usual MM "arrangements" are kept in place. So I think it's quite possible the pps will stay in the status quo range it's in now.
BWTFDIK?
I don't see how Barbara Emu is an officer in any capacity for vplm so how can her actions be construed as anything other than part of the scheme to make millions of dollars selling free or dirt cheap shares thru the Emu while at the same time say FU to shareholders.
Wow. In one way or another, for the past over 10 yrs, I have made some mention of just about everything you did in your post. Just having a little trouble understanding how you've laid out some of it. The Emu has claimed many times that when he was with digifonica, raised many millions of dollars to pay allegedly, many voip engineers and code writers to create what he claims was his vision of the need for what the patents allegedly provide. I've read as much of them as I could before getting a headache. I understand a very small part of them but they seem to be overly repetitive gobbledygook. No doubt that because by no means am I qualified to understand something that took the better part of 20 mil and 25 engineers to create in the 1st place........ If indeed, that is what took place. You seem to see it in a somewhat different light...? He then, at some point, after he had been accumulating digi shares for some time as a director, became the ceo or the boss in some way of digi. Next thing you know after allegedly being able to raise all those millions.....now the company (digi) is so broke they can't even keep the lights on. He said at some point, that he and digi had been friends with vplm for a long time. So that leads me to believe he and certain elements from vplm, began to collaborate very early on, on an idea or a scheme. Both companies were identical in that they both were apparently trying to break into the voip arena which was a very up and coming and promising communications technology and business prospect. They both, as far as I understand, were just basically renting software and whatever business tools were needed but I have the impression that neither of them were having much, if any, success. At some point, and it's very fuzzy for me, they decided to merge but it almost seems like some kind of strong arm kind of thing because as soon as the deal was done, the next thing you know is that the entire digifonica team became the BOD of vplm. RK was ceo of vplm at the time and supposedly lent or paid alot of money to keep it all going...? I once had possession of a copy of a digifonica filing that no one else ever seems to have seen. I read it very carefully. It's from way back before the acquisition. In it, digifonica stated they no longer wished to be in the voip business and wanted to go in another direction and I guess the only potential asset they had at that point was the patent applications. They stated they wanted to sell them and get out. I can't remember the exact amount but they said they valued the patent applications at approx $600k+ and a subsequent filing had that amount increased by around 50k as I recall. It was something under $700k. Next thing was the merger or the acquisition or whatever it was that occurred. There was definitely a price paid by vplm to digi, which at that point I think digi was Malak. I believe the pymt was around $800+k and several millions of shares. For 2 to 3 yrs, vplm, via PRs authored by Dennis Chang, made many BS promises to shareholders and potential shareholders, stating they testing the patents and would be folding the technology into their own alleged voip services platform. There has been 2 different stories. 1 states that they built several nodal test points and successfully did the testing. The other story I recently saw, was they went to several existing telephony companies and made agreements with them to do the testing. In both cases, no test results have ever been made public to my knowledge. Meanwhile vplm oversaw the continuing uspto prosecution of the applications until they were all approved as patents. The PRs kept coming nonstop promising everything under the sun, such as the promotion of vplm to top of the voip service providing business, as well as the immed increase by the millions of new subscribers and the immed influx of tens to hundreds of $millions from royalties.. He (Chang) also reported that there was a surprising amount of immediate serious interest from ceos of several fortune 500 and S&P 500 companies in buying or licensing the patents. All of above UNDOUBTABLY garnered MANY NEW investors and shareholders and shares sold!!!!! And then, once THAT SETUP WAS I PLACE................out of nowhere, with no announcements, rhyme, reason or communication with shareholders.....KABOOM! Game over! It all was a fairy tale and next thing you know the company was for sale, period. 10 yrs fast fwd, no sales, no licenses, no settlements, no partnerships, no actual wins that result in money for the shareholders, just more talk, talk, talk, and promises promise promises as long as we have PATIENCE and that vplm is in its best position ever. Court dates come, go and pass away with no real positive results ever even tho thd pro side has a way, in their infinite wisdom, of turning any and every event into a pollyanna positive.
I forgot to ask you if you might elaborate on the stolen addendum you mentioned. Sounds very interesting.
Correctamundo once again! Wow, you're on the ball aren't you? I've also reported on that point how, contrary not only to what so many seem to believe about how vplm allegedly created the patents, which of course they did not.....oh, and by the way, did you notice how based on the Emu's posting on website, every financial publication out there now prints that vplm created the patents (blatant lie). I posted a whole bunch of those online financial papers with the incorrect claim here not too long ago and as usual, no one gave a rats ass. All these many many smaller facts of BS, reveal the underlying eminence front. All the dots connect.
And it's also true about the long ago alleged voip service provider business vplm was in. It and some of the features and instruments it had, were all turnkey rentals, which were all failures as we can see now. And all their rental partners wanted to sue them all the time. They also had a bunch of magic Jack's at some point. What happened to that? I heard they all sit in some warehouse. Point is tho, that while all that malarkey was going on, vplm kept claiming on their website to be the leader of the industry. What a freaking unreal joke. Yet peeps swallow it for years.
Just remember.....
Some $18 million and some 20 to 25 voip telephony engineers (those numbers change every time Emu tells the story), it allegedly took to create the patent technology....... So please tell me how in the heck is some patent lawyer, no matter how many super lawyer claims made by him or his peers, or the Emu or anyone on this board who have the utter nerve to claim they understand the patent language perfectly, able to? I call bullshit on that.