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What if I told you I know better personally?
And yet we have others who've been there and say different. Explain that please.
Explain the numerous invitations I've made with no takers to go there in person.
Explain orders made and delivered uuuuuuum by employees....
Ok. Is corporate theft, fraud and other criminal activity a violation to this policy?
I think another review of the facts is necessary, there's a lot more to this.
Imo it's mute. Old news
And that means what today?
In what way?
Charade? I don't see it that way as a shareholder.
No, open daily as far as I know, but if you want to walk around....call first?
Call ahead is what I'd say. Better yet, meet me when I travel there.
Hmmmmm. I think sylvam would say please re read the post, but just in case, I'll explain further.....
They arrived at 6 and FINISHED LOADING, 6:30 to 10:30. Then drove the product to the client. The product was made prior to their arrival.....so it took 4 hours to FINISH LOADING the product on to the trailers.
They actually STARTED LOADING the night before and FINISHED the next day.
Clear it up?
They opened at 6, gone by 10:30 that day, then on the road to deliver product.
Like I've said, I'll be in Lake Charles to audit for about 3 days or so. Then road office for a week. Glad to meet you there at Ellies or whatever that restaurant is...
Ooops! Wrong guy....haven't had my first full cup yet lol....
You got there late dude. They guys were out of there by 10:30 to make deliveries. I'll be going through Lake Charles to audit for a few days, then free for about a week...lets meet at the local yocal and chat.
Martin I agree, but this case is about to get more complicated for the boot boys. Can't wait until June 1. A big date for IFUS and it's shareholders.
The problem is the trucks were loaded from 6:30-10:30 AM, the guy got there too late. By the time he got there, the trucks were on the road to make deliveries. Nothing "hypothetical" about that. The guys had a job to do...."production drives the train!"
I'll be there in a month to audit construction in LA. I'll be popping in to see the plant....
Sleepy, you up to meet? Panther, the invitation for you is still open....
I got news for ya. As discussed time and time again, it's not just about feeding cattle. Look at tge studies. Then you'll know
lolololol....complete nonsense.....cabalderdash!
Actually there is. I personally know of two shipments and sales made very recently. As a shareholder who does his own DD, you get to know the "who's - who." And no, it's not from MW...haven't talked to him in 4 months.
"No sales, no production, nothing going on at the plant..." Complete Cabalderdash. More lies and deceit from SA and JS and their cabal.
The real question is a series of "why's"
1. If IFUS and it's products are worthless, "why" replicate them?
2. If IFUS is broke, bk and makes no money, "why" go after it financially?
3. If IFUS studies weren't worth anything, "why" plagiarize them and try and pass them off as your own?
I think this is a good start.
Up and running now....why wait until tomorrow?
Actually there is....just gotta know where to LOOK. Goooooo Miami State!
I thought one of the posters in here said they went to the plant in the last couple weeks.....Idk, maybe they're GPS is programmed wrong....called the plant boss, been in full operation for months!
Guess whoever it was, went to the wrong address....or maybe Joe gave him the wrong address....might have been drunk when he gave it....idk...
That's interesting part. No debate over that post....not even a single rebuttal. Nothing refuted....
Meaning....BB's lose (as they admitted they were losing).
Call the Plant Manager....you'll see things are in full swing...the production in the background is muuuuusic to the shareholder's ears.
Hmmmm, I think Miami State would say this was not a mortgage loan and is not relevant. considerably different than a private commercial loan and the laws surrounding it are different...but lets try this:
1. Bank lends you money to buy a unique house....so you buy.
2. Bank proceeds to get you fired from your job, then takes away all assets (including virtual), so you have no ability to repay.
3. Bank calls in the note (and in this case, no note was provided by the BB's)
4. Bank copies the unique house and goes and gets it patented, so your house isn't unique anymore
As you'll note, this is even hard to make relevant....but in principle...the same (at least attempted).
Again, private commercial loan not relevant. Mixing apples and....submarines..lol
Never mind, I have my own copy, I'll send by PM if anyone wants:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2016/2/21/jcy[kImage(1).jpg
I guess that makes me one too. Oh well, I've been called worse by better....
Has the company had hick ups. ..yeah. but mw is the only one who's taken it from the ashes to productive and producing. Considering what the two former board members left behind....MWs done a great job.
The SA and it's cabal character assassination is not and never has been convincing especially to those who know him and have done legit business with him.
The cabal can keep trying, but the investors who've done their DD know better.
All this batter babble about incompetent, not trustworthy, liar about MW hasn't made a dent.
For the record, speaking for myself, I trust MW, I'm happy with his performance in handling the legal issues he's had to wade through and in building the business. I think the majority shareholders (total number of shsres) are also happy with the progress, but will ask them to chime in for themselves. At least every shareholder I talk to and correspond with are very pleased and that's been tge case since I've started investing in this company.
So babble all you want cabal, my opinion and decision hasn't changed.
Interesting no answers to my q's so...
Need to understand the nature of the relationship. Sarafini didn't represent mw in any criminal capacity...only civil.
So your answers?
That accusation fails the hydro test and doesn't hold water. Just what did he lie about? It appears to me the evidence presented scared the shiza out of the bb's. They ran out and hired a criminal defense team. Let me ask, would any reasonable person do that? Run out and hire a criminal defense team over a lie? That accusation doesn't hold water. Put a plug in it (tell SA and JS to try a pacifier).
C'mon Martin, don't be too hard on SA and JS. So what if the live the lives of chicken $hit lying cowards. They live by the 3-D's:
1. Deny: I didn't do it! We didn't know (from the deposition)
2. Deflect: it's all MW's fault, we did it bcs of him (more from the transcripts)
3. Dilute: everybody's doing it, it's not unigue (same as above).
Same stuff my 4 boys do/did from 6-10. Thank God they grew and are growing out of it. Aparently these two haven't figured it out.
That is 100% correct my friend. Unfortunately logic doesn't apply here, considering the user...Joe being the user, aka Forest Gimp. Stupid is what stupid does. Ol' Joe thought "I'll just take back my box of chocolates!"
Look at him now (bcs of MW) "I just felt like running!" (From Ifus). lolol
Judge never called him that. Is she did it would demonstrate bias and she'd have to recuse. Judge's aren't going to call names, the mere insinuation they're taking sides would be grounds for their removal. So it didn't happen
Cabalderdash. Never said.
No settlement offer ever and won't be one. ..as said, why? No reason to.
I'll repeat what Martin posted to respond to this..."beware of orange!" Ask JS and SA if they think it's "legally worthless." They obviously don't think so, they hired a criminal defense team. That's a lot of money up front in retainer fees alone. Ask SA if he can afford another legal proceeding against him right now.
Legally worthless....a new legal term I guess....please define that for me? Didn't see this in law school. Guess I need Miami State...lololol...legally worthless..lolololol
I would agree with both of you. There are more involve, but unfortunately as Martin suggests "beware of orange!" lololololol there's a lot of that where they're going. lolololol
Hmmm, lets break this down...
Too funny!! Each and everyone of those statements is true. Walthers did misappropriate funds and use them for his attorney interesting this was never brought up in court, nor was it any part of the depositions. Walthers did try to settle, literally begging to get the patent back so it's now confessed the patent was stolen-which is proprietary? What did MW try to settle with. According to the SA/JS Cabal, MW and IFUS are Bk, broke, busted and disgusted. So what would he have to offer then?, and was rejected. Former IFUS investors and others have been continually harassed by phone, physically threatened and stalked hmmm, first I've heard of this...and never read this in the court docs at all. Any why aren't there charges filed? And why wouldn't MW have hired a criminal defense team? Stalking is a very serious crime. And never once did a former investor post anything in here or anywhere else about being threatened or stalked. So show some proof of this outrageous claim .
It appears to me the SA/JS Cabal are really desperate. They make up phony unfounded and with not one scintilla of proof, these imaginable claims...pure drama aqnd none hold water....aka "Cabalderdash!"
It's interesting the Sa/JS Cabal writes all this wonderful stuff about MW, yet they never met him. We all know where it comes from...just love all this jazz...lol
Agreed. It's very interesting the SA / JS Cabal just makes stuff up and posts it. There's no link and there'll never be a link as it was never and never will be valid.