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Nelderand there seems to be 2 schools of thought on this issue. 1 says not voting is a no vote the other says not voting favors the BOD and is counted as a vote for the RS. My experience in the past with other companies was that none tendered votes could not be counted either way. They did however reduce the number of total votes necessary to enact the issue.
Yes there is hanky panky here. Why were posts 24021-24023 deleated. They were the first posts regarding the RS. And it is interesting who did the posting and which of those posteres hasn't posted since June 8 and I could not having posted prior to June 6. It was those postes which began the price slide.
Wibne The posts I was referring to have been deleated they were June 6 shortly after the market closed the poster you refered to on the 8th had made the first post and then a well known poster on this board immedialy posted the item from Gov docs. Posts deleated are 24021-24023 why they may need to be verified by sec???
Board a number of you are confused as to which side to take. You did DD when buying this stock now do research. Go back to June 6 see who posted the R/S, who then went to gov docs and posted the actual preliminary. Check who and how often those posters posted prior to and since the board posted the info (not the company the board) They say follow the money in this case follow the posts.What had those same posters said about this company and its management prior to notice. Who were friends with whom? Does this smell like a fraudulent deal in the works? Why didn't the company give an update on actual production and on reserves? Where are the real numbers and who knows them?
Rocket I spoke with I believe it was Raj but may have been Joe. I was on my cell and missed part of the name but he was returning my call. He would only confirm rig is coming from a TX manuf. He is really upset at sharholders calling the Chiefs and upsetting them. He has no JV's in the works. No rigs are available to do what NVMG needs done. The well is not a high producer. They do get checks from Shell Trading. His goal is to build value for his employees and the shareholders who have been in this for 8 years. Does not appear any PR is coming soon as they are held up by weather.
What am I doing wrong I can't find anything on the Amep web after aug 06? Have I got the wrong link its the one at the top of this I hub board page. TIA
Also Rocket NVMG may still have its orders in for buy back shares. Would be nice to know if they do or have completed those. If They do have a need to raise capital and were of the mind set to sell shares I would suspect they would be ssmart enough to first release info to get the share price up so less dillution of theri own shares. JMO.
Wow I'v missed someting when and where did the Aug 17 date come from? tia
I won't give my email as I get to many spams, My IT guy said to quit giving it out to those I'm not in direct contact with.
huecares not necessarily. There may not have been an arm's length transaction. The principles may also have failed to act in time to avoid the default. The principle being a close relative to the party to gain the most in a company loss of property. Property the recent true worth as to new discovered reserves have not been revealed to the shareholders.
right on ctb
Oh so we drop the price of shares from ,06 to .039 do a revese split 1 for 25 and the SP is still less then $1 so will Bro convert the shares?
Sabre correct. From the first word of RS this thing has smelled of a fraudulent event. It still appears to me someone wanted the SP to drop. Where is the poster(s) who first reported the RS. I haven't seen that poster post prior to nor after that. How long would it have sit in gov docs before s regular poster would have seen it?
a preliminary application is not an offical announcement. They can't make an announcemetn until they have approval. What has been proposed can be and in this case IMo will be changed.
Sabre the market may be only giving it .04, but those who do their own DD have a higher value. We are waitng for the market to discover that value. Those numbers will depend upon an update of reserves which should be released by the company. I'm sure the BOD and its officers know very well what they really are.At this time the market is nervous about a R/S and lack of information from the company. Hence they are assigning a higher risk factor to their expected additonal holding time. My expected additional holding time is over 1 year. Drilling and results are needed.
bgad there is something strange about this R/S. There has not been an offical statement from the company that I can find as to a R/S. A poster who hasn't posted since(I couldn't find prior posts)leaked the word of the preliminary filing.It appears to me someone or group wants this price cheap. Had we not seen the R/S and had the report of the well where would this SP be?
.06 are you nuts? This cmpany is worth far more then that. Why would any knowledgeable sharehold agree to that anymore then the R/S.
yuck no vol at total of aout $1800 was allthat was spent for AMEP so far? Someone is playing games.
What do you mean by NOTHING are you saying he didn't know of the RS?
Silver now with a potential buyer things are even beginning to smell more like the share price drop was set up. There was no RS statement from the company. A poster who hasn't posted since found it, and enticed a regular poster to post it.(IMO) Someone ill advised CB to seek a 1:25 RS which he appears to have accepted as a thing he deserves. Now a buyer comes in to "rescue" the shareholders? I'm beginning to think there is more to the RS then we realize or even CB and the board suspected. Hope I'm wrong but if it quacks lke a duck its a duck.
If he is reporting 1% ownership yet has conversion rights to more doesn't he have to claim that? Every shareholder report I'v read shows convertable as well as existing.
I get my info from Technical Anaylysis from A-Z by Acemedes or something like that I can't spell his name withourt the text in front of me. When I'm home tonight I'll look for the Book in my library if anyone needs the correct spelling.
a gap is a trade which trades outside of the previous days range up or down. Doesn't matter if the open was different then the previous close. Just so long as the trade the previous day also had a trade which covered that close. If the trade on the 6th was at .004 and the next day opened ,0045 and had a pull back to .004 then the gap was filled. IF the day of the close had a trade at .0045 and closed .0039 and next day opened at .0045 and never pulled back there was no gap. On pennies it sometime is hard to get actual numbers after a few days.
you indicate a close of .0039 for the 6th what was that days high? It doesn't appear as a gap on my candle chart
What day and gap amount to amount and prev days range are you referring to?
Has anyone seen an offical announcement by the company of the RS? It was announced after the close by a poster who hasn't been heard from since and I couldn't find having posted prior. It was his comments that "it was released after the close." The actual posting of the Prelimenary RS was found and posted by GEH shortly after prior poster.The information had been sitting in gov docs. As the negative posting began the vol shot up and price down. IMO this is beginning to look like a dump prior to a real PR which would have info on a successsful well. Now that well has had a BLOW OUT. Does anyone other then I think this could turn into a law suite against a group who wanted to buy cheap shares?
surfkast we also have what appears to be a cup with a broken handel. Could be more buying opps for us true believers. But with pennies charts don't always hold true. In either case I'll be happy. Next year at this time it'll be a lot higher price, and long term gain for lower tax bite.
SagonmonKid a follow up to you PM the other day
I went back and found the first post of a RS it was by Livingon Pennies. The follow up question which then produced the actual document was from Seeker. If you have the access to detailed info on these boards it may be intersting to know how often they post and on which boards.
dioblo canncell your order and watch what happens. Your the only seller now and MM's are waiting to do the cross sale.
ltg when I buy into these pennies I first do as much DD as I can. This one has some good geological leases, and large acreage. The work over rigs should prove a plus. Those old rigs AMEP acquired appear to have given them some trouble, but now seem to be working ok. One thing about the oil patch is its slipery. Holes take longer to reach depth then forcast, equipment is delayed,workers get hurt, and then the big disappointment the hole missed its target by 400 feeet,or comes in a water hole or duster.I'm not sure if NVMG will rop much further. Buyers seem to be scared as rig is so late. Since I want a year or longer before selling 'm not worried and just keep adding a few 100,000 from time to time. Won't be long and I'll have 1% of the float.
dioblo How many you have left? I got filled just a few min' ago.
LTG not as long as I am AMEP, why do you ask?
Is anyone getting filled at .0065 or are theMM's getting all those shares?
Rhubarb you must be retired and never sleep.
Sangamon It may not have just been a company person.
sangamondkid In response to your PM no and what you are thinking is what I was thinking.
That is my point it now has a high probability of being redone after the letter from Nelderand and all the posts here. IMO it was a trail ballon released by a non BOD. It wasn't an offical releases by the company as near as I can tell.
Thanks but who first posted it? This is not a final documen but a pre app. Also are the preferred shares convertable and or voting?
If there had been news to pop the price to .10 and the BOD did not release that info prior to the release of info of a RS it could be an attempt by them at stock manipulation, and grounds for SEC penalties and ciivil lawsuites. OF course the RS may not have been released by the BOD but was a form discovered in a gov file which still had not been filed. I can't remmember where that RS info first came from.
Todays chart looked good IMO gave a nice test to the support. Didn't hit my under the market buy which I may need to raise now.