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What a bunch a damage control trash.
Why don't you post some evidence that anyone but HLNT and their ebay technology blew the Grant that they PR'd as a virtual done deal. Anyone with any smarts at all could tell you that the police department is not gonna equip their squad cars with that nonsense HLNT sells. Wasn't gonna happen then nor will it ever. Too much investor interest killed that deal? Ya right. Just like the 100,000 sq ft production facility, the tranparency, the Hoss, the Dongfeng supposed JV that was PR'd. Now the Preferred shares are gettin pumped out at a 1for 10 common shares conversion. Tell me all about how that isn't going to director associated folks. Nice company ya have here shareholders. It's your fault they're all screwed up.
palmspringsdude
trust me, I claim to be no hash extraction expert, yet. I am a very quick study though. I DON'T RECOMEND THAT ANYONE MESS WITH FLAMABLE PRODUCTS. However, in my readin and thinkin if I ever went into the hash business it would be bt butane extraction. I well versed on flamable liquids and their uses. Aint no way I'm gonna blend, strain, ice and that nonsense when I can run butane through some weed in 5 mins. and have a better yeild. Ya it can ignite if you're mega dumb but I'm not. You light those blunts with a butane lighter, right? If ya have the balls to refill a lighter with butane ya have the skills to do the hash thing. They sell butane over the counter at Kmart for gosh sakes. Where ya gettin this 'lord have mercy' thing. The rest of your post is Chinese to me. Who the hell is CBIS. Kubby, Jor Pietri and bubble bags? I may be outta the hash loop but I can promise ya that I'd be sittin with a better product while Kubby and the boys are dickin around with patent rights, blenders, ice and bubble bags, which seem to be a rip off.
Warren Buff 1 jnkman 0
Buff posted to me that Corey was on vacation last week with his still married girlfriend. Zero class for sure but we had no proof. Post # 4061
Jnkman was pssed off about the above and told Buff that he knew Corey was in DC and Buff needed to get his facts straight. Post# 4075
Today I received pictures of Corey at Sanibal Island, Florida attending the Onyx and Breezy Island Gala. The pics are not for postin unless I get an ok but jnkman might want ta read the article below and reevaluate his stated position. By the way, Onyx and Breezy are two friggin dead dogs. To each his own, I guess. Personally I’m more inta savin humans. Round one goes to warren Buff by knockout.
On March 27th, 2011, The Onyx & Breezy Foundation will be having their second annual Island Gala. This is certainly an event not to be missed as the founders of the foundation, Mark and Wanda Shefts get ready to host the evening. The evening of comedy, fine dining, dancing and live and silent auctions will take place this year at The Sanctuary Golf Club.
This year, entertainment will be provided by comedienne Windy Liebman, the winner of the American Comedy Award for Best Female Stand-Up. Actor Ken Howard, the national spokesman and executive board member for The Onyx and Breezy Foundation, which the NIR Group and Corey Ribotsky help to support, will be attending.
One of the goals this year is to raise more than the $47,000 last year raised in the live and silent auctions. It will certainly be a night to remember and one that the founders hope will raise a great deal of money to help animals in need.
I'm not kiddin about any of this. I'm very serious about getting answers. Also very positive on the use of medical marijuana. Just listen to one disclaimer on a new MMA drug for sleep disorder. You'll go to sleep but your wang may fall off, you'll have dizzyness, fall asleep at the wheel, grow hair where ya don't want it and possible get cancer. How can anyone injest that kinda crap? I'll take this instead. You will get sleep. You may party first, eat most of the chips and dip, be funnier that ever before, end up in the hot tub nude and probably need a double bed for the sleep you're gonna get.
I can't go the legal advice route here so just Google it or have the corp attorney explain options. I say that because the corp will have to make the decision. I base my thoughts on info I received that most of the float is held by longs and is not very large. If some shares that are not in the float now are 144 restricted they will likely come off restriction in 60 days from issue and those holders will sell them into the float. That's the best scenario as I see it. The reason I see the need is simply the low volume. I believe that as posted, most of you believe in the company and are holdin not tradin. Activity breads activity in this game. I'm not sure that answer helps much but it is what it is. If there are no 144 shares in the mix I suggest the company use shares for consultants etc. and get more into the float and use the cash saved for s olid business model activities. again, talk to the attorney and if they are free tradin shares they get trading with no restriction period.
jnk, you're backpeddelin now bro.
It was you who stepped up and said all these Corey positives and that no family members ever invested with NIR. In order to say that you must have access or you simple believe all Corey tells you. You've called other statements here lies which I assume is based on a bit more than "Corey told me so". Well Corey also bragged about returns and 7 billion under management and put it in writing. Now investors that invested hard money would like some accounting. Sound reasonable? They also read about SEC investigations of NIR. Abound claim after claim of shorting and overstated account statements. They lived the Madoff ponzi scam and his claim of "how could they not have known". It appears that Dworkin and Yellin visited with Madoff prior to their problems. They were NIR at the time. Put in place by Ribotsky. Dworkin claims he was told to lie to investors. We have the Medgen stuff I posted. Investors are now frozen. Corey froze em. Think about this awhile and let me know if ya understand why these investors don't want to hear about lavish trips, Bentleys, boats and private jets. Add to it that you seem to want to keep all personal actions on Corey's part out of the conversation. Seems your buddy is content to see these people suffer through his bad decisions and possible crimianal actions while he plays party time with the new squeeze. Gettin the picture pal?
Haven't got one Siforus. If I did I would not have posted on it. A friend asked me if I ever heard of it. I hadn't. Most of the DD I do on various subjects is exact science type stuff. This weed thing is a new game for me. I did see some extraction methods that would produce thc levels at up to 90%. That was some butane type process that produces a blond hash they called hash oil. I suppose some in the medical realm would know of that stuff and it's use in pain relief etc. Seems to me you'd be feelin no pain pretty damn fast with that stuff. This Oracle bud stuff I posted about is claimed to have thc % of double the strongest stuff now known. It was medical marijuana guys that asked me to look into it. I thought some here might have some insight.
The subject actually got more interestin as I read more. I read about thousands of strains. Indica and Sativa hybrids. interestin stuff. I found pretty convincing documentation on a strain called White Widow that was 22% thc. That was the highest I found that I could confirm. Now I'm kinda interested in the most popular medical use strains and the differentpositive medical effects. Is there a list of the most popular medical strains and their genetics and thc %?
That's my point dude.
Dworkin is a rat in a cage that doesn't like cages. I do do my DD prior to sparring. The case of NIR v HLNT is a good example here. The prosecution had coperation clauses with two perps that use ta run HLNT. Along with securities fraud convictions (pled guilty) Two rat's in a cage as you say. One decided to play games and lied to investigators. Within two weeks he was sentenced and off to prison. The other is tellin his NIR story now. So is Dworkin. Are these dudes to be believed on their own? Hell no. Should investigators follow my suggested path in my last post. Hell yes. These three know each other well. A message was sent when the first went down for his BS. Not even Ribotsky is guilty until proven so beyond a doubt. In these cases testimony comes from rats. Rat's need to back up what they say with other names to contact and confim their story. The facts pal, just the real facts.
Now another question since you sorta backed off your expert position. You claimed Corey traveled to DC. Others here, who I respect and believe in most cases say he went to Florida on a lavish vacation. I don't have any idea which is true. what do you have to back the DC claim?
Any heard of this MED.?
Not spam. No company mentioned. Is it real? Experts?
Oracle Bud
Plant height: Short, FAT THC level % THC level %: 45% Flowering times Flowering times: Faster than anything ever created 33-37 days Yield Yield: MASSIVE 1200 g/m2 - 1400 g/m2 Grows Grows: Indoors/OutDoors/Greenhouse Strain Genetics Strain Genetics: Euphoria Unlimited Bud x Elephant Bud X our unreleased Ultra Fas Feminized Seeds Feminized Seeds: 90% Female, non-feminized Grow Difficulty Grow Difficulty: easy Plant Odor Plant Odor: moderate Smoke Flavor Smoke Flavor: skunk berry, sweet sugar cane and basil among other undertones This is an exclusive copy genetics of this strain
Get more shares into the float if ya want real action. All other needed criteria seems to be in place. If you want to get the public excited about widgets, get a lot of widgets into circulation. If it's a better widget they'll sell and the buyers will buy more and tell others.
Ya buy Warren, jnkdude said it was not our business and he went to DC. Still seems to me that the motivation there is that the Gravy Train is runnin off the rails. dude got real jiggy about the shorti comments. Sometimes it's much smarter for these dudes to shut the hell up. The spin just comes back ta bite ya on this board.
PD's posts have already stated that your last CEO and the new one he appointed upon his arrest are convicted fraud felons. Is that a crook or dirty in your book? Do they have lot's to hide? I'd say so based on my DD but have not done a very good job of it. Are they hiding it? Well yes based on the fact that the appointed one Robinson stated in his first PR as CEO that his mission was complete company transparency which has not happened in over a year.
I also see that investors are cathin on fast. Again today the share sells are 4.2 million compared to 738 thousand buys so far. The pps has dropped about 12% today and I expect that to continue. It seems that those who are posting BUY BUY BUY are not doin so themselves. In fact you have supporters that are posting WHAT THE HECK IS UP posts because of the companies lack of transparency despite PR's claimin the opposite. Do you blame them? Digest the facts I've posted about and if you have questions just let me know and I'll answer later tonight.
OK jnkdude, let's try again.
What does "Dworkin has no value mean"? He did get caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Remember he was NIR to the funded companies. He did lie to investors per Corey's instruction. He did as NIR arrange the extortion of funded company funds through Medgen and Envision Cap (my opinion based on solid DD). Again see the Medgen filings for Edgarized public info on the Medgen/Nir consultin arrangements. Now if you want to do the DD I did, go figure out who those funded companies are and see if they will confirm what I've had confirmed.
IMPORTANT INFO FOR INVESTIGATORS BELOW
Investigators read every post on this board. they get good info and leads. I'm tellin em to sit Dworkins butt down with the Medgen filings that state NIR provided consulting contracts to Medgen. Ask him about the involvement of Envision. Ask him which companies to contact in order to confirm the facts he provides. Tell Dworkin everything he dreams for rides on the truth and complete facts. When that is done you and I will talk again and you'll be a lot more informed and smarter than you are today.
Here's your problem Sparky.
You claim in your quote below that these are facts when in fact these are to be determined at trial. NIR is gonna claim that they relied on the elected company CEO as they should have. NIR did not arange anything other than to accept that what was offered them. The fact that Walters and Humphries benefitted is meaningless from NIR's standpoint. They lend money but don't control the company or it's decisions. #3 is just plain nuts to list as a fact at this time. NIR did not value, sell or transfer software.
You're tryin ta climb a hill that ya want to avoid at all costs. HLNT's biggest love interest at the moment should be their exCEO Humphries. You had better hope he's sayin what he needs to say to avoid prison. All of us know that all mentioned parties are dirty and have lots to hide. Only one benefits by tellin the truth. That guy worked with and sat next to Michael Gelmon and David Walters. The gold lies with humphries not in claims the court will hold HLNT responsible for.
"The Judge will also give the greatest emphasis to the following
facts:
1. The transfer of the Notes were arranged by NIR and Humphries
before Humphries ever became the CEO of SEVO.
2. Walters and Humphries personnally benefitted from the 2008
transations, receiving some kind of payment for the changes in
the CEO's and the transfers of Notes.
3. NIR was directly involved in the process of the 2008 activities of
Fraud.
4. The valuation of the Computer Software Asset was based upon
the value of the Notes (principle plus interest) rather than some
truely defineable and independantly verifiable value."
raven dave.
You've also been lead to believe that It's a John Derre test facility and that might lead to a JV of some sort. Fact is the facility has no connection to Deere other than some testing was done on a Deere product there. Go back and read how the posts were worded to make you believe there was an HLNT/Deere possible partnership. You;ve been mislead and are now startin ta see it.
That's fine with me dude. I'm not sure what we've agreed to disagree upon though. Is it that Corey is a good guy, has done nothin wrong, should have no one question his expensive life style and that NIR will be unaffected by recent events?
Here's what I believe just so we're straight. He has a fiduciary responsibility to those thst invested in NIR and enabled him to make a ton a dough. He deserves criminal charges if he's cooked the books and lied to his investors. Dworkin has testified that it did happen and he was told to do so by Corey. If you put a freeze on investor redemptions because of cash flow you personally take the financial hit on your own poor decisions. I also have good reason to believe that third party partners have shorted NIR funded companies and Corey has personally gained. All outside of the NIR umbrella. In other words, he's bet against those he's funded. A violation of note terms I've read and a bet that directly harms his investors. I also have good information that NIR forced funded companies to pay for consultin that never took place. See the Medgen filings for some on that. Trust me dude, I'm right and in two years or whatever time span fits your model we can come back and discuss it all to see who was right.
Hey Hugh.
It sounds like Homey the 10 post wonder is in a wad cause the Gravy Train is about ta leavin town. Where was this defender of Corey's good name when they all felt invincible? Seems the shortin info and the boys talkin to save their freedom has em a bit on edge. Makes a sound like tents foldin up.
Calm down Porkchop, you're gonna have a miscarriage. My shortin theory seems ta have ya in a bunch dude. I haven't mentioned that today. So you go ahead and defend Corey's good name for em. We're all ears. so far it's been very informative. He went to DC not Florida. You think he's done a wonderful service for investors and he hasn't lost a suit yet. Damn dude, where ya been when we needed this info? So we got some little mad secretary tellin us that no family members are invested and where Corey and his squeeze go on vacation. Nice. Got any more? Or is this and the pansy azz Personal Business card all ya wanna play today.
Are ya now?
How bout that. We get some jackhole postin that Corey has a right to spend the money he took from friends, family and others anyway he sees fit. Where ya think that money came from bro? A side job?
Sure it does jackwagon.
He's usin their friggin money ta live high on the hog. See any problem with that dude? Rest of us do. Drop the personal business crp. The dude has screw up the personal business of all these investor.
Prove what?
Odds are that someone thinks a shell may change hands.
Why don't you supporters make an offer?
Tell the company to do a Public Offering. Say a 504, which is easy ta do. You dudes buy them shares at a discount with the sale procedes earmarked for a promotional/product placement program. Company gets dough. float gets healty, you buy at a discount and the PR and product get to the retailers. Now all I need ta know is who's the competition and what is the target marget share available.
Did you buy those 2k shares josey?
I thought you posted that this company doesn't exist? Better call the SEC and tell them a nonexistent company is tradin shares. You also posted that all shareholders were bought out when that dude got 25 years in prison and a 55m buck fine. Are you sure about that? Please provide some backup material on your claim that this company doesn't exist and all shareholder were bought out. That would be big news and I'd like to see the docs.
Actually Floyd, I was postin about the Hoss lack of news another poster asked about. Ck it out bro.
Now it seems you think the past has no bearin on the future. I see things a bit different. If you PR,d claims in the past that proved to be total nonsense it's logical to question claims now. Just do the DD I suggest Floyd. Ck out that Arkansas company Madami that is workin that Hoss deal for ya. They PR's a huge motor scooter deal with Sundiro back around 2000. Was gonna be a huge assembly plant in guess where? Russellville Arkansas. Did it happen Floyd? Now Madomi lists their business as wholesale metals. Seems the Russellville team is recyclin the old failed plan expectin you ta think the last attempt was just old news that doesn't matter now. Good luck with this one, Floyd.
Want this train ta run?
Get some shares inta the float. PR what ya got and why. If the paper is in Walmart spend a few bucks and make a End Cap to display the product at the retail level. Tell your story on the Header of that End Cap. Buy some space in Walmarts next newspaper Ad insert. Then PR what ya just did and the expected results.
This is one company where I'd be pushin management to pay themselves with shares to up the float and provide Ad Campaign money. Activity breads activity. Get some shares tradin and you'll see results. Buys and sells, it don't matter now. Just get the VOLUME up.
Update on the Hoss schedule?
Why would you need ta ask posters if they have anythin on that? You'd think that if the companies PR'd goal was to be transparent they'd keep their shareholders advised with real PR news. I've posted several PR claims here that were totally false. I did see that the company did take the time and effort to write each shareholder and ask them to pre purchase a Hoss 4 wheeler. Nice. Send us your money and we'll ignor ya after/if we get it. Anyone hear about that settlement with Truk that was suppose ta be completed? I'm thinkin they saw the dumping after the last settlement and figured that aint workin. All that and ya got an NIR fight comin up over somethin near 10 million dollars in debt. Good luck on that and the Hoss update. Look into Madomi Int that's brokerin that deal for HLNT and have some fun. Another Arkansas company. Part of Mel's "Arkansas Team"? See if it even exists.
Hey Nyses.
8k's are nice and required for a material company event. Even though shareholders look at million dollar sales as material the SEC doesn't in most cases. Jusy a good solid PR campaign wouild work for me.
I read some info on Yahoo that oo7 posted for an associate a mine. Looks pretty strong here. I'd like ta hear more about the Ad/Promo budget as well as an evaluation of the competition. Stuff like who else is sellin recycled non wood based paper and what is the retail price comparison to standard paper we all buy. If the price is close I'm buyin recycled every time. I had to laugh at the elephant dung possible use. Bout every year I go to the SF Zoo with someone. Saw an elephant take a dump that would save about 70 trees and that was just one effort, one elephant.
What's holding SGDH back?
The little DD I've done so far isn't addin up for me. Product seems to have a huge upside and orders seem to be in the Q. Anyone seen and tested the product?
I got tipped on this one by a bud on Yahoo finance. Not sure yet if this company is gonna be happy about that or not. I've got a Ihub rep for toastin the scams but will back the real plays 100%. I mention that cause I know virtually nothin about this company but was asked ta look into it.
Question.
What does HYHY, hydrogen gas, Dukes of Hazzard, Hee Haw and Deliverence have in common? Don't answer that they are all dead and gone cause that's the wrong answer.
Forgot to answer my question and your claims, josey.
You're in the same boat you've been in since the first day I heard your name. You can make all the threats ya want about the SEC but what it comes down to is you're just blowin smoke. Like Smoke and Mirrors. You've post that this company does not exist, that I've posted flagrant lies and mislead readers about HYHY. I don't think any of that is your real concern. Your concern is that I'm here postin about HYHY and the competition in the business of promotin HHO. But if I wrong about that it would still seem logical to ask you to post the quotes from me that you refer to as flagrant lies and misrepresentations. If ya can't I'd say ta have a different agenda than ya claim. So get wit it, bro.
Everyone on the planet knows that answer. You know that, you posted it.
My DD.
I've posted some links here on where to start the DD. Remember this, no matter what I know I only post here on Ihub about public information available to all who look. If ya got a question about a specific point let me know and I'll respond here unless you ask otherwise. Bout all I can say now is that my DD is extensive. I don't lead it, it leads me. The best I can give you right now is that my DD on electrostatic fuel bombs lead me to two hho companies with the exact same promotional template. Both companies are headed up or were by felons and scammers of the highest order. Some will post that I'm full of crp and make this all up or that I'm associated with one company or another. They are wrong but it's up ta you ta figure that out for yourself. Me tellin you that is just words. Do the DD and you'll find out who's postin facts. I also listed some names in a post that will lead right to what I'm sayin. Follow up if ya have the time and interest. To save time start by Googlin Jim Bolt, Oklahoma City Bombing, Then work through Elgindy, Khashoggi, Curshen, Taub and Red Sea Management.
Warren, I emailed a buddy yesterday about that kind a activity from him. The dude just has no class. I could go into plenty about that but it would get deleted.
Here's what I really see happenin. He's gonna screw NIR investors bigtime. Kiss your investment goodby or get on with a plan of action. From the funded company standpoint it'll be business as usual. Give me shares and I'll travel to Florida and pay legal fees type a stuff. As soon as NIR stops the legal battles they are done cause no company will convert shares. In fact it looks like many have stopped converting now. If all got together and stopped it would be lights out but they aren't that organized. So investors will get screwed and Corey will try ta keep up the cash flow so he can stay in court, hold off the Feds and travel with some dressed up sow.
Like puttin lipstick on a pig.
The pig (HLNT) is gonna look better for a day or two but it's still a pig. Had to fire 3 web designers? Come on dude. Ask em about that reporting transparenc promiset next time. Or the Preferred Share distribution details. Or the company obligations to the directors. You know, the Directors that Humphries called "Mel's Arkansas Team"
Dude, I feel for ya.
Corey was livin it up while he knew dudes like you (investors) were payin the bill? All after that last letter too. Dude needs ta be put away for a long time.
Dude, where ya been the last year.
They've been bailin at NIR left and right. Yep it also looks like NIR is fallin fast. Remember that exit strategy I've been postin about. So next in line is the Trustee who is there ta protect the investors. He'll be fightin for em in your proposed chain of events. That means he'll get tossed the various litigations. He'll have court support and the new venue will be Bankruptch Court. Good luck on those HLNT claims that their CEO was guided by Ribotsky and shouldn't have ta pay debt. HLNT won't last long enough ta get a decision on that one. End of day, no NIR, no HLNT, gonna miss em both.
Nik are ya talkin about the one I said was comin 3 years ago and what would be the catalyist? Yah that one bro. Remember, you're postin to dudes that have been readin my posts for years on what's going down now. Lately they've read my posts on HLNT because their CEO is testifyin about NIR so he can stay outta prison. I've also posted on the merits of the HLNT claims against NIR. So sit back with that popcorn ya like ta talk about and watch my next prediction come true. Even durin the exit strategy phases NIR will kick HLNT booty. Or maybe you'll get ta tell that story to a Trustee.
meticulous, post some DD on that bro.
Nik we'll have fun watchin too. No one here defends NIR. Problem is that HLNT is just as bad as NIR. Makes for a nice fight though. Who believes NIR? No one. Who believes the ex HLNT CEO a securities fraud felon? No one. Well maybe the FBI now. Who believes HLNT now run by another fraud felon assigned the position by Humphries? Not a soul. And lastly, who cares that you defend one scam and belittle the other? ME.
At this point I'm wonderin what you don't get.
Yes it's a scam. Designed that way by those that do that. Are ya actually thinkin you're the first ta know and you're providin new info? Thanks for tryin ta help though josey. Another hho scam put together from day one for a purpose.