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Company phone does not seem to be good 631-244-9841 just answering service no message.
I might not be the brightest person but my experience with the CD technology tells me that this could be huge. If this bar code reading gets like the cameras on phones it will be almost standard. My experience with how the CD technology was licensed and the royalties paid was as follows:
Manufacuturers of CD players had to pay a negotiated percentage of the selling price of the end product to the patent holder. These could range anywhere from e.g .0025% to .05%. So this might be a reason they are fighting NEOM so hard. I was involved with some of the Panasonic royalties paid to different patent holders. This is an area that is kept very quiet. The big boys like Panasonic, Sony & Phillips get together each yr and negotiate the fees. What they do is swap one patent for another so they do not have to pay the royalties in some cases. When it comes to the little guy they just try to bury them because they feel they do not have the money to fight their huge legal means and funds.
For NEOM it must have huge potential if they win - I am just making a wild guess - 1B phones if they get 200M phones in 2yrs that sell for $80 (price to providers) and get a .01% royalty the numbers are like this 200M x 80 x .01 = $160,000,000
So it could be huge and this is why someone is willing to back them
An its going to sit at .0025 for ever. They have nothing especially with that management team. Compare it to EVRM's team what a joke a preacher boy and I mean a preacher boy running the co.
I bought 3m of EVRM and made up my lose on EESO and plus a profit. Sounds good to me but I thought you owned 8M of EESO at @.02 what a loss you must have there.
Like EESO?? What was your statement I know what I have or something like that?? So where did you get out at??
You know a lot. I think you are stating the issue well. The stock is soft because there is concern on the STS next 40%. Some think it is going to be dilutiveor as you say they want more since they are bringing so much to the table. This concern needs to be resolved next week or I think the stk will dift lower. I here it is almost done. The question is will it be a good deal for the shareholders. I wish I had sold in the .05s - I bought in the .004s and waited and bought back. Never been good at selling at the rt pt.
BCLE looks good
Thanks, it will e a while until the dust settles.
What I got out of it was that it will take close to the end of the year before the dust settles and we know what is going to happen. Glad I was on the cc I do not own any but might look at it again after Oct. I hope my EVRM makes me enough$s so if this turns I can buy it. I still do not get it completely. Do the neom patents cover all three 2D barcodes if the URL is sent back with infor??
I agree the smart money is buying low and will sell high. They are taking advantage of the weak. If I am correct and this is going to be the MSFT standard for iris scan then this is a 1 in a M pink sheet stock. If the market forecast of biometics being 7.5 B market in2012 and if they get 10% for the iris scan for this part we are talking 700M. To be safe say the market will be only 5B and they get 8% that is 400M.
Lets say they net 25% margin then they would earn 60M divide that by @600M shares and it earns .10 per share. A 20 pe would make it a 2.00 stk in a couple of yrs. My pe is low and the margins are low. I believe they can do better on those two areas and probably on the market penetration. The up potential is huge.
They must feel the buyout of the 2nd 40% of STS is not going to be dilutive to the stk. They must be taking advantage of the impatient and people that believe OS is going to increase drastically.
I called the company today and asked some questions I had about the next 40% purchase of STS. They know what the stock price is doing but cannot talk about it or do anything about it. So if you want to get their feeling call them. I feel comfortable with what they are doing. I have never been lied too by them. Call
We are trading down last week or so because we do not know the structure of the company when they buy the extra 40% of STS. Will it be dilutive or will it stay the same. The key is to have STS be a 51% owner to substain the Disable Veteran Small Business. This is vital to win contracts. I hope they can do that without stk dilution by legal procedures. If not I hope they do it by a prefered stk with more voting rights than common with few preferred shares issued. Once this issue is resolved then the stk can move forward it handled ight.
I am glad someone sees this is a small problem now we have to get over. We are just attracting mostly traders.
Thanks for the article - better than the NYTs
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/29/technology/29coupon.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=coupons%20you%20don't%20clip,%20sent%20to%20your%20cellphone&st=cse
I think I am getting it now if this coupon thing gets big then NEOM's patents will be worth something and can collect fees. So in this case the URL sent back is important. Am I on the right track??
They need to make the story clearer for the investors. Most average investors cannot understand this story. They can only understand a simple story - it is too hard to understand this will be the std for all iris biometrics (like MSFT is for PCs), being used my another company making the equipment and security cards, need to explain in dollars & cents what it means for sales and earnings, need forecast and then we will get new buyers. We have just attracted the std Ihub followers that just trade stks now. We need new buyers but we need the story made clearer for these new buyers. The longs here understand the story but we cannot move the stk.
So if I understand it if the info is delivered to a handset without the URL it gets around the 048 patent. But what advantage is there to sending back the URL, if I understand then the 048 patent applies. I do not see how good this company's patent is for making money. Am I missing something??
Thanks, sounds like people have away around the patent. If i understand if the information is sent back without the URL is away of getting around the patent?? Is this correct?
Thank you so much. I think if they win the Scanbuy case in Oct then this might become like that small company that took Blackberry to court for infringing on their patents. They almost shut down Blackberry but got a huge settlement like I think 400M. No big company will get involved with a small company with legiation that might tie them up for yrs and cost them in a settlement. With all of these legal suites done and in their favor then they can collect their royalties and licenses. They will then have the experts coming to them. Question will the US Patent hold up in foreign countries to collect fees??
I am little old and slow so I hope I understood you. You mean Neom has the indirect method covered for reading the two open source codes?? If so then they get royalities for from people who use their patent here?/ If they win the Scanbuy lawsuit then they control the indirect method for all three codes??
Does he still have a similar room that they talk about trades?
I have some similar questions on patents. Question does NEOM's patent read all three of the 2D barcode standards - QR Code, Data Matrix and Scanbuy's Ezcode.
Thanks about 2 yrs ago a friend got me on his Palktalk site that they trade on. He goes out to ihub and tries to manipulate stocks by saying false things.
Where can you get Panetta's list
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Hope this helps
Once we get it then new ball game.
Your welcome, I can find the good companies but I need people like you to keep me on the timing.
Your welcome, I can find the good companies but I need people like you to keep me on the timing.
Whats controlling the action is lack of news. Once they confirm the contracts it will be a new game. My guess it will be in Sept.
Agree - once NEOM wins their infringement lawsuits against Scanbury then it will take off. Go to court in Oct. I think they will win - the big boys working with them are just waiting then I think they will get bought out. EVRM is similar have patents on security technology for iris scan and when they release winning 50M then it takes off. PVHO is similar it has the 3d display technology patents and Intel, MSFT, Samsung working with them Apple Exec on their board - it will take off soon too.
I talked to Robert about the release. I got the feeling this one will not have as much meat in it as the 3rd qtr release. I believe they are going to get on track to release them on time from now on.
For most of the investors that are in an out of pinkies these prs with a few in a row made the sk sound like a pinkie for these people. they stick around for a little more time if you have signed contracts with dollars that can be verified. These people do not do DD and do not believe many prs.
I am a little concern the 5 EMA looks like it crossed the 20 EMA. I think the last PRs scared away some investors because there were no real numbers in them. I hope the company was just preparing us for all of the good news to come. I think the last PRs made the company sound like a pinkie. I hope I am right these guys really have something and this is just a short slow drop until the real news hits. If there were problems with their story I would think the sell off would be harder with a lot more volume.
Call Robert at the company to get your answer. I talked o him yesterday. If you need the number let me know. It is best to call and get the facts first.
Thanks, I don't think this one will tell much but the 3rd qtr will be interesting to read.
Has EVRM submitted 2nd qtr earnings?? Are they compliant yet?? Anyone knows these things?
Thanks, good pt on the partnerships - these are big ones and I get the feeling in these contracts most of this is a done deal by the time the bid is put in. I think this alone might be one of the reasons holding back the stk, because most people do not understand gov't contracting in the investment community like you. We usually use the private sector bidding process and think it is nt a done deal.
So you are saying 8 out every 100 have a chance of making it?
Thats what I figured. I think if they bid it usually means they will win most of the bids because the prime contractor has worked with them on the specs and I think they probably have given some type of indications to the contracting officer who they want to work with. The limited conversations I have had with people who know this field I get the impression it is a little different than in the private sector. It is mostly a done deal when you bid. Does this sound right?? I hope by the end of the month they hear that they won the bids.
How long do you think it will take for the co. to know if they won the bids?? 10 days , 20 days, 30 days??