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LADIES AND GENTS...we will see...
selling stop when the shares issued for advertising are extinguished.
IMO, we see selling because:
1. Shares issued for advertising reasons are being sold, or were being sold.
2. Retail investors that bought in before the run to .04 are selling, or have sold before this drop....causing...
3. People that don't want their portfolios to be bled dry are selling.
1 and 2 IMO caused this drop....which also caused 3 to occur.
That is that. At this time, it is merely selling pressure bringing us down, probably with a taste of short selling by MM's because there probably are not buyers to buy the sells. So, once selling pressure is gone, we will see movement upwards. Plus, we need some positivity from the company to STOP the selling.
If SCE and other receivers of the shares see positive movement, they will hold out for bigger gains, BUT they do not see that IMO, so therefore, they want to get paid for services rendered.
This IMO is not dilution, this is pure selling of existing shares, not new shares added to the float, except for the MM's taking sell orders without buyers.
Thoughts? Seriously, some thoughts along this line of thinking would be greatly appreciated.
Dan
stocklobster...
just like the looters said when asked why they were stealing VCRs and TVs during the Rodney King trial, "Its FREE!"
lobster........
got poker?
ken, i would like to know if you would comment on the stocks that I posted on the FAT CATS board.....i see the season is right for these three, and would like an unbiased opinion, since I love these 3 stocks...they are my personal favorite and I play them every year around this time....
see post here....
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16377489
for readers of this board, the stocks are:
CHK
PDC
UBET
good luck all.
Dan
back to stocks...
tomorrow is monday, and Dan, Dan the Cheezy Man has his good ol' stand by stocks ready to rip in 1 months time.....growth ladies and gents...growth..
i give all 3 stocks...my favs.....i give all three of them 1 month to make you money........
now, i am not talking about 10 baggers that have a buttload of risk...i am telling you that 10-30 percent is NOT out of the question.....AND has little to NO risk..IMVHO.....
And they are:
Chesapeake Energy
Pioneer Drilling
YouBet.com
I am telling all of you. EVERY YEAR at this time, I play all three and they have not failed me. Sometimes I have to wait a bit longer, but when I see the beginning of the year dip, i am in......
I would like to know what KenG thinks of these plays and will ask for his comments, if he is willing.
Good luck guys and gals....Remember, these are my opinions....good luck.
I will be in all three tomorrow.
Dan
LoL...i love this! (poker smack)
I am going to have some fun in this one.
Can I split my AA?
oh, this is not going to be a blackjack tourney? my fault. I must be at the wrong table...
LoL...
lol...oops..exposed my tell..eom
lol.....i thought that was a great pic..!
eom
look at this cat...
you messin with me?
i posted these thoughts...
in the past on other boards, and usually get booed. yes, booed, not booted...lol
My feeling is that when you get a group of long shareholders buying to continuously average down, and then we as longs watch the PPS slide for numerous days, with only a few up days inbetween, we tend to want to complain, as some have...and are expected to....
but...
i feel that IF the board went virtually silent, and the calls to the company slowed dramatically, and the buying stopped...mostly, we as longs would see the company react in a much more attractive way toward the shareholders than they do AFTER they KNOW they have a loyal base. IMO, companies in the pink sheets absolutely LOVE it when they have their shareholders, whom i don't believe they even care about, continue to average down, promote, call on the phone for information, etc.
Why?
Because when we do that, we help them SELL SHARES. we point out their chart to bottom feeders and MOMO players, we buy up the shares...and we KNOW that they need buyers for their sells, and promote the company on messageboards where many hang out to find the NEXT BIG THING.
Think about this...most of the big moves in pink sheet stocks happen before most know about it.(not an absolute but most of the time) the company is trying to bring interest and exposure to their company. Once they gather up a good group of longs, they have more freedom to move stock...because many times we will say it is MM games, off-shore shorters, toxic financing, etc. When one of us suggest that it is the company management selling...wellll that person gets fried on the MBs. BUT pink sheet companies use their stock like money! that is a known known (thanks for the quote Rummy). I am not saying something new....companies use their stock to pay for most things to promote their agenda (ie: advertising, funding, overhead, production, etc.)
THIS IS NOT NEW. so if buying is dried up, selling would also....unless of course, the MM's are in fact corrupt. THEN the company must do something to gain interest in their stock.....that is when we see movement upward.
do we believe that the stock price is going down because of the stock payments to SCE and other advertising needs? i do....
do we believe that since it is going down because of that reason, the company is buying some back? i do...(this is, of course at the expense of the shareholders)
should we average down? perhaps, but i will defer to my earlier comment of waiting for action from the company, if you have maxed out your desired position in one given stock. i would not put more in than i originally expected to......I KNOW many do put more in, expecting another run....
How about this...the increase in authorized shares....why? i believe to get funding by issuing shares to private investment firms..ie AWJ Offshore or NIR group....."why do you say that dan?" because about 75% of the pink sheet stocks resort to this type of financing. PIPE financing...
now, if that has not happened yet, i almost guarrantee you that a HUGE run will come right before any financing deal is made. check out two of the stocks that i witnessed this first hand...
Telatinos...well now it is Privada, but still Netco via ticker ("NCVT")...Dec,04...January 05
also...
IGIA, Inc...ticker "IGAI" ......July 2006
both by PIPE financing...and both by Corey Ribotsky.
Not saying that this will happen here......but this is how MOST pinks work. I expect to see something big happen here.....but what follows is a guess.
point is, this is pink land.....evil happens here.
my suggestion is to watch closely....don't invest more than you originally intended...and take profits.
Dan
SUCKERS!!!!..
man, look at all the suckers that will play me in the poker tourney....
bullrider...your days are numbered.
come on lady, can't you get some experienced players? you? sheesh.....
this will be a blood bath.
(ok,,,,,i am talkin smack....i will probably be the first one out!..lol)
good luck all.
IMO, this is setting up again....
for a run to .02.
be quick. and as always...
good luck. be careful.... and understand that you can lose all of your money in the pinks.
that is why boards like FAT CATS exists....
it is a board that accepts most anything....but if it get out of hand, Serfdom, Shmolton and Lady*b whip us back into shape.....
OT is fine; I believe even on stock specific boards....but sometimes it can get out of hand.
It is when selective OT is deleted that can drive a paying subscriber mad.......but hey, i always have the non-stock specific boards.....
have fun all.
i am signed up lady....
serfdom is going down!
lady, you will KINDLY pass all your chips my way.
yep...just the way it is.
Dan
hey man, i was not trying to be right....
i was just trying to stop a friend from giving more money to Paul Taylor.
take care Kel
RKD...
hope all is well with you and the fam.
sorry for being so hard on you back in the day...
Cheezytang is the new dzynstudios.
we need some good news....
not just Fingers the mascot....
but hey, congrats Renee.
1 year and 9 months worth of trading.
late quarterly filing....
as usual. every time leading up to the 10QSB, they have to file the NT-10Q
every time....
crazy.
unless there is a viable reason to....
look over the NOBO and compare to TA info, lets stay away until there is a reason.
lets see the PPS grow based on good business and selling products, not a short position.....please.
oh please god no.....
lets not go all NOBO here...please, i beg of you.....
i'm with ya there cowboy....
my strategy is to always question management, even in the big board stocks. i never trust that their intentions are in our best interest. they must work for me, and work for my respect. that is all. am i asking too much?...lol
Cowboy...of course there is wiggle room..
of course my post is not the ultimate.
i have no idea what the share structure is or what management is doing with it until i see audited financials, or the TA provides updated info to Pinksheets. or management provides it.
this company has products to sell. they are selling them, and they are beginning to advertise....all good things. just saying that companies that are growing by using a public method such as Pinksheets, vs. privately growing until stable....then going public, use various methods of paying themselves, including paying themselves with unrestricted shares.
Dan
Cowboy, i have seen many on these MB's..
make that same observation...and every time I see a poster make that claim, I cringe.
In pink land, CEOs can issue themselves more and more shares to make up for the difference. bottom line is, the Agents of these companies do not get hurt, regardless of whether they dilute.
I am not suggesting that is what is happening here, but I have seen it too many times where Management issues themselves shares in the form of debt conversion to make up for their losses in SP, by claiming their own money was used to fund company projects.
CKYS has real products, and the Agents of CKYS must be able to fund their acquisitions, by any means; even if that means throwing the retail Share holders under the proverbial bus.
is that a retorical question?
to deceive? only reason to create an AOL account and spread false information, if that was it was.
i bet it was a retorical question...lol
hey sylvre...howZ thingZ?
this is dzynstudios...with a name change...
you still watching the Paul Taylor stocks?
morning mad. eom
did someone say phantom?
i heard Matt was buying this property in italy.
Welcome......i cannot speak for the mods...
but as long as you are not a wacky shameless pumper that wants to clutter this board, you are welcome...
lol
actually, i think anything goes....until of course...serfy, shmolty, and lady say enough is enough.
Dan
oh, well i did not care for....
him in general, after I realized he was an old pumper that allegedly worked for Paul Taylor, or was in some way affiliated with him, based on the fact that Chef indicated that he in fact received discounted shares from PT.....unrestricted.
anyway, I guess we should not speak ill of the dead. I do know he loved his wife, Vera, and hope that she and Frank's family are doing well. God Bless Vera. From what Frank told me in the past, she was a wonderful woman, and he loved her more than life itself.
hoppy...swing by FAT CATS.....
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=3961
that was serfdom's and my "PennyFriends", but i was not living up to my assistant duties and therefore asked serfy to remove me from the assistant list.....serfy wanted to change the name....and him and lady*b settled on fatcats. i like the name change.
nice to see you again...sorry you took an acid bath, as many of us had in these Paul Taylor stocks......
You heard Frank AKA Chef passed away, did ya?
Dan
by the way...maninfla got booted from this site after getting into it with MATT in the Jailhouse. a few F-bombs were dropped.
exactly..i remember those days..
it is a running joke hoppy. i changed my name from dzynstudios to CheezyTang...blame serfy and the freaks on the FAT CATS board for the change.
Dan
latest news...
Hydrogenics Signs Distribution Agreement with Heliocentris
Monday January 15, 7:00 am ET
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070115/0203071.html
MISSISSAUGA, ONTARIO--(MARKET WIRE)--Jan 15, 2007 -- Hydrogenics Corporation (NASDAQ:HYGS - News)(TSX:HYG.TO - News), a leading designer and manufacturer of hydrogen and fuel cell systems, today announced it has entered into a distribution agreement with Heliocentris Fuel Cells AG, a leading company in the development and distribution of fuel cell and hydrogen technology to education, scientific and demonstration markets. Under the agreement, Heliocentris will now add Hydrogenics' fuel cell power modules and small-scale PEM electrolysers to its product mix.
Europe-based, with worldwide sales channels through direct sales and agents, Heliocentris sells products and services to schools, universities and industry. Through this partnership with Hydrogenics, Heliocentris is now equipped to be a solution provider for customers that demand a higher power range, from 4kW -16kW.
"Without any special design iterations on our part, the HyPM Fuel Cell Power Module offers a fully integrated packaged unit that ideally meets the needs of Heliocentris," commented Daryl Wilson, Hydrogenics President and Chief Executive Officer. "We expect this arrangement to provide an interesting revenue-generating niche for Hydrogenics. At the same time, another important objective for us is to educate and foster a working knowledge of hydrogen and fuel cell technologies worldwide. We can expect such users to take this product in many directions that are not part of our current focus, and we welcome this."
"To meet our growing needs for fuel cell power modules in a higher power range, we evaluated a number of potential partners," commented Dr. Henrik Colell, CEO Heliocentris. "The inclusion of Hydrogenics' modular designed fuel cell power modules in our product portfolio enables us to develop and offer complete system solutions to our current education customers as well as to early adopters in industry. We very much look forward to expanding our business opportunities around the HyPM product."
About Heliocentris
As a pioneer in the fuel cell industry, Heliocentris has over ten years experience in the production of fuel cell products. Heliocentris focuses on Education and Science markets worldwide with more than 10,000 end customers in over 50 countries. Heliocentris is one of the global leaders in this field. Clients can choose from over 30 products divided into 6 product lines ranging in complexity from basic fuel cell kits to complete lab equipment. Heliocentris plans continued growth through innovative new product development for the education market as well as through fuel cell systems designed for industrial applications. Heliocentris is headquartered in Berlin, with a subsidiary located in Vancouver, Canada for coverage of the North American market. For more information please visit: www.heliocentris.com.
About Hydrogenics
Hydrogenics Corporation (www.hydrogenics.com) is a leading global developer of clean energy solutions, advancing the Hydrogen Economy by commercializing hydrogen and fuel cell products. The company has a portfolio of products and capabilities serving the hydrogen and energy markets of today and tomorrow. Hydrogenics, based in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada, has operations in North America, Europe and Asia.
CAUTION REGARDING FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS
This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the "safe harbor" provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Law of 1995. These statements are based on management's current expectations and actual results may differ from these forward-looking statements due to numerous factors, including changes in the competitive environment adversely affecting the products, markets, revenues or margins of Hydrogenics' business. Readers should not place undue reliance on Hydrogenics' forward-looking statements. Investors are encouraged to review the section captioned "Risk Factors" in Hydrogenics' regulatory filings with the Canadian securities regulatory authorities and the United States Securities and Exchange Commission for a more complete discussion of factors that could affect Hydrogenics' future performance. Furthermore, the forward-looking statements contained herein are made as of the date of this release, and Hydrogenics undertakes no obligations to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this release. The forward-looking statements contained in this release are expressly qualified by this.
Contact:
Contacts:
Investor Contact:
Hydrogenics Corporation
Lawrence Davis
Chief Financial Officer
(905) 361-3633
Email: investors@hydrogenics.com
Media Contact:
Hydrogenics Corporation
Jane Dalziel, Director of Corporate Communications
(905) 361-3639
Email: media@hydrogenics.com
Website: http://www.hydrogenics.com
look at his profile...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?User=82702
then check out the IHUB jailhouse board:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=38
yep...thats the PM as i remember it....exactly. eom
righty...
i did get back to business at hand last night, and you called me out personally...again.
so, with that said, i will continue to post my concerns/comments/satisfaction/discontent, with EQBM....
I will direct all comments toward EQBM, the agents thereof, and the potentials and risks involved.
Dan
what lies righty???
what lies?!?
I am standing behind my words.
I don't have the PM available, but JR does...and so do you....Post it, please....I did not keep it.
kermit,
when I PM, I treat it as private and for the person receiving it ONLY. When I wrote JR, I told him what I felt about his actions since he gave me his phone number to call back in August. I "gave it to him" in the way that I did because he publicly challenged me on this board when I never did it publicly. I made comments to him via phone as well, all private conversations, man to man. But the PM that many knew about BEFORE I gave permission was for him, to hit him back for a public comment he made about me. I am sorry, I did a quick search for the post, but I cannot find it. I did save 2 PM's from him, which had my PM's attached, but I do not have the one where I told him, basically...
I thought he was a mouthpiece for Mr. Skolnik, and that he was being used by him. I also said that I felt he was pumping this as much as he can and talked about when to sell, so he can gain from others being caught holding the bag. I cannot remember if I said he was "running a scam" on this board, exactly.
Since I don't have the PM anymore, I cannot respond to what I said verbatim. I have two other PM's from him, that had my PM's attached, but not that specific one.
As for longs being "to blame" for others losses, I told him that it is damaging to post what a supposed CEO says via phone, because it is unverifiable, and misleading to people that do not have experience in the pinks. Like I said, about 2 or so years ago, I was green to the pinks, and I heard from the CEO via a poster that I trusted, and those comments actually kept me hanging on longer than I should have. So, when I saw JR and WTL posting CEO comments from phone conversations, I did not think it was a good idea. Now, in the PM to JR, I am sure I was a bit more blunt, but that was a private matter.....or course, if anyone had the PM, please post it for all to see. I don't have it.
I don't think any one poster is to BLAME for others losses, but I personally try to tell the TRUTH about a stock, and not mislead newbies into the lions den. I felt that JR was new to the pinks and did not realize the damage he could cause to newbies that follow these posts. I have noticed that many on this board have NOT been burned by a CEO's words via phone, and do not realize the ramifications of following those posts. I have personal experience, as my introduction to the pink sheets, in losing 99.9999% of my investment. Much of what I saw on this board being posted, was posted 2 years ago on the Telatinos board at RB and then here on IHUB (now the NCVT board i think).
So that was the long answer.....
short answers are:
1.) I have accused a poster or 2 of posting comments from the CEO for personal gain, and not thinking about who they are hurting.
2.) I have accused one or two posters for being a big reason why there are so many bagholders that bought above .015 with the "September to Remember", NOBO!, "PR blitz coming, CEO SAYS" posts that were all over this board.
These are my opinions...as a moderator of this board, I will respectfully answer you.
I have apologized to JR via PM about a week ago. But I am sure no apologies are accepted after what I said to him in that PM. I was deliberately harsh and mean, since I was challenged on this board publicly.
I have noticed that others on this board have read that PM, probably the day after I sent it. I am sure there are others that were read also, which shows to me the character of the ones passing them along.
There are my answers.
Dan
Matt,
I don't know how this guy can still be an assistant moderator of the EQBM board...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16222665
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Posted by: righty
In reply to: CheezyTang who wrote msg# 27804 Date:1/15/2007 11:42:02 AM
Post #of 27813
it was already established long ago via timeline, that that position was entered into after you brazenly posted FUD prior to it being entered. We are not interested in rehashing these trading strategies, just accept that no long appreciates it.
Please do not beg for further embarrassment on this issue, you know full well it is easily proven. Nobody is interested in cluttering up this board with these lamentations.
Please enter your EQBM trades on your own, do not ask for information regarding what we are doing, as you have already admitted to making trades based on chatroom peoples words, and have already accused everyone long in this room of running a scam. And yes I was very fortunate to have read your private message to jrdig7, thankyou for having posted permission for him to do so.
DO NOT PUSH THIS ISSUE FURTHER AS IT WILL ONLY SERVE TO ANGER FOLKS TO NO END, i HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT FOR YOU AFTER HAVING READ THAT POST, TO BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES IS SIMPLY NOT PROPER.
TO STATE WE ARE RUNNING A SCAM ,THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD RUNNING A SCAM???????? iF YOU ARE SO INCLINED "WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR OWN PM[/B] YEAH LETS SEE YOU TRY AND KISS EVERY AZZ IN HERE AFTER TRYING TO JUSTIFY THAT POST OF CR_P
Dan