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maybe we'll see the end of the .0005s and hit the .0004s? the flippers make a few grand along the way; longs, it's not going to stay afloat too much longer. you can't not do what kelly won't and cannot do forever. you can't string this out forever. she's selling
millions through proxies; some days they're inactive, other days
they're busy. they've got to be careful. it's not difficult, but
you've got to disguise what's going on. it's like a game. i doubt
if she has to work at it more than two, three hours a day. nice
work if you can inherit it...
will someone call chas? ask if we'll ever get a pr from the company
again. ask for a timeframe. tell him he's considered by most to be
a total bullshitter. ask if he cares and if he truly might do something that would change opinions...
i can't call. i'd lose my temper. are you all just planning to wait
until this finally fizzles out?
kelly is content with all the frustration. twist investors twist.
it gives her something akin to pleasure. as ceo she could do so
much in a minute that would make such a difference. but she won't
because she can't--her brain doesn't work that way. nor did her
father's. what a family!
could a company be worse? could it be more frustrating? a worse
place to have your money? a more blatantly squandered opportunity?
a pps. in trips, so you can afford to buy a lot of it for very little; a terrific product that tens of millions of people could use--today; a management history that is world-class inept; a self-
dealing ceo who continues to self deal and is aggressively combative
if anyone questions the mountain of facts that indict her father,
her family and she herself, for mismanagement that is positively
unethical and probably criminal...
what could be worse?
bye bye!
what you may underestimate is how much kelly enjoys this. investors
who she dislikes, is contemptuous of, in some cases hates, are
all twisting in the wind. days and weeks and months go by and she
makes her money, the whelans get their money, and shareholders get
to feel her twisting the knife as this goes from .0006 to .0005.
all that hope, all the obvious possibilities--dashed again and again, day after day. she's feeling good...
yes, it is a huge opportunity. it has been a huge opportunity for
a very long time. but then there is chas radovich. he is half
excuse maker, half bullshitter. he does not accomplish anything because he can't. either on account of incompetence or psychological
problems or likely both, he can't. it's a shame no one could get to
snaper and then to mrs. snaper, convince them to get someone in who
could take advantage of the opportunity that's been there for many
years...
that's smart markjohn. stock up on the excellent product while you
can. it's not going to be available much longer. predictions are
impossible. it all depends on what kelly wants to do with her life.
i would be surprised if it lasted through 2020--but hey, considering
who the whelans are, who knows?
waldrop is not a manager. he might be a crook. he is certainly
wonderfully incompetent. as is glauser. neither has any business
running any company. they seem smart enough, so they could have
jobs. it's almost not to be believed how they've screwed up evio.
now they're both probably looking for a way out that enables them
to squeeze all the money they can out for themselves, while being
careful to cover their asses in order to prevent prosecution. such
people are ascendant right now, all the way to the very top. it's
like a new culture...
hey vein. why do you think there aren't any buyers after the asm?
why it can't break 75 cents, after the asm? why not one other company is willing to invest anything after the asm? why when the
market is up huge, this goes down after the asm?
all that ceo exuberance, that positive vibe. where did it go?
this is not someone anticipating big success. this is someone who
needs us to stick with the investment, believe something will happen,that good will come of their hard work.
he's not a dishonorable fellow in the least. he's a decent guy and
brilliant, but he isn't able to deliver the goods.
that's because lebby knows this isn't happening. facing shareholders
is an appalling prospect when what you bring them is nothing except
their lost money!
all true, steve. .0006, crazily this might be the limit high for
this buzzard. that kelly hasn't spoken to this disastrous pps., that
she hasn't addressed the ludicrous history--it tells you all you need to know about what's coming from her. besides a little more
combativeness, then sayonara...
richard. how do you explain the lack of interest? the pps slippage?
the fact there isn't one deal even rumored outside this board? a pps
significantly below one dollar?
cute myachinbak. but a tad optimistic. i'm thinking .00055. or,
because the company is so well run, maybe a little dip to .00045.
whatever the pps., kelly is certainly in the running for business
executive of the year. it's hard to keep up with all she's done.
yes, scope08. i'd like to get even first, but the dollar amounts
you cited, those were what were dancing in my eyes when i first
invested. i'm still hoping, bigtime. don't you agree it is hard to
understand the movement of the stock considering the claims? we'll
see. fingers crossed!
jimjet218. intelligent and perceptive post/reaction to my post.
thanks.
i'm not in finance. but i know a lot of people who are. do you
know what they say when i ask them, as a friend or acquaintance,
what do you see when you look into lwlg as an investment?
i'm rooting 100% for lwlg to do well. to do great. to be a disruptive tech company that soars. i'm frustrated and angry at
myself for parking a lot of money here. w. buffett says don't
invest in a business you don't understand, but i did. i knew and
generally followed the truth of his advice, but i went against it
because i have a brother-in-law who is a brilliant hugely successful
engineer who described the world needing exactly what lwlg is
trying to achieve. so now i'm stuck way underwater, and i'm angry
and frustrated with myself.
this is way more explanation than you deserve, but i gave it anyway.
if you had a genuinely good life you wouldn't react to my sensible,
but anxious, frustrated, words the way you did.
i need to get away from the board. i offer you guys nothing; just
as you do me...
all you guys. do you really, i mean really believe that if lwlg
had something valuable, something commercially viable, that it
wouldn't be able to hold 80 cents? and if it did, wouldn't you
be telling everyone you know to buy buy buy? which, unless you're
a bunch of guys living in your parent's basements, which is what
i think, that would, simply by word of mouth push this stock several
dollars higher. also, all the people who understand the science,
the engineers, there are thousands of them, they'd be buying like
crazy, and that would push the stock way up. instead, there is nothing. references to possibilities, expectations, patents that if
you really knew about patents you'd know there are 100,000s of them
that are incredible but nobody has been able to monetize them.
i know there is nothing to say to any of this. you chatter without
really knowing amongst yourselves--and that's fine. but this is not
looking good to anyone who truly cares about money--not losing it,
actually making it.
now delete this, so you can keep chattering harmlessly...
steve43. we deserve to be, we are, and there we will stay, until
kelly can squeeze out no more, at which point she'll flush.
ceos without oversight can give shareholders the finger with absolute impunity.
look elsewhere, bud, there are real companies managed by ethical
competent executives out there...
with kelly at the helm, i'll bet this never breaks .001 again.
she could care less...
glauser and waldrop, do they even work? besides squeezing money
from shareholders, do they function at all in any way?
it's no consolation. but they'll get theirs. you'll see...
ain't gonna happen. no way to make it happen. kelly is biel. she'd
close the business before she'd even share power. that's why she
makes no moves available to any competent executive that have nothing to do with covid-19.
okay. i'm gone. glta and stay healthy!
like her dad she is very combative. it costs him, it costs her, it
costs us shareholders dearly in terms of money. he did fine moneywise, she does fine, it's us who get kicked in the teeth. she
acknowledges nothing, because as far as she's concerned, we deserve
to lose. she has contempt for shareholders, rationalizes all her
lack of ethics, and we're all going to lose whatever we invested.
not for awhile, though. she's not done making money here. when she is, her kiss-off will be a beaut.
the vagueness is not accidental. this company isn't close to breaking one measly dollar because they aren't anything like what
proto and his fellow lwlg interpreters claim it to be. are they
close to a deal? will they ever make a deal? will they be successful
or disappear without a trace like thousands of other r&d companies?
not one person knows the answers, not even senor lebby. i wish they
wouldn't pr until something involving revenue was in hand...
anybody who is not surprised by how this is trading has either no
experience or no understanding of the market.
okay, believe it. is there anyone in business who would tell you
that when there is a lot of real stuff going on, you keep it to
yourself instead of letting it out bit by bit in a controlled way
so as to increase the perception of strength? it's business 101.
if you want to make a deal, perception counts for so much! you're
right, something is going on. kelly is figuring out how to make her
family the maximum amount of money without running afoul again of
the sec or shareholder lawsuits. she detests shareholders, has
0 ethical underpinnings, other than rationalized self-interest, and
crazy ideas that investors were cruel to her sainted father, who
managed to do well while keeping biel in the toilet where it will
eventually be flushed.
that's it simps. believe away. believe at .0005 right on down to
.0001. etcetera. the smart moves you have smartly suggested, if she
had an honest, competent intent, they would've been done a long
while ago.
yes pumpkin. and that's why nothing has happened and the pps sits
where it sits. 'expects' is a totally different word than anything
signifying verifiable achievement.
that's the big divide here. the conflict. if it weren't, this would
be trading 100x higher.
contribute what? lwlg has not made one deal. the stock can't break
seventy cents! seventy cents! what you refer to as the contributions
made by others, there is no provable basis, neither for nor against,
for any of it. only deals will provide a form of verification...and
i myself am very skeptical, but will be thrilled if they happen!
pony. of course you have no way of really knowing whether chas is actually working. unless you or jd or naval or somebody else trustworthy actually followed him around and observed. as the months
roll past, the likelihood of any real business development becomes less and less. chas can say anything to you on the phone. to say he
doesn't want to announce news too early--that's an absurdity beyond
words. it has been years! years of nothing!!!
hope you are well!
steve. i'll leave it alone after this. within the next month or so,
kelly will release a pr with good news that cannot be substantiated.
this will be done in order to unload several billion share through
various proxies. then she will write a goodbye thank you letter
to shareholders, total baloney but with the intention of cutting
off possible investor lawsuits.
and that, as they say, will be that.
good luck and stay healthy everybody!
you guys. no ceo would hold onto good news if there were any.
a company in the toilet for many years. no meaningful deals since its inception. no marketing, no advertising. kelly will play out the
string. she's unethical incompetent and combative/defensive, a
combination that wouldn't prove successful if she had the cure for
cancer.
it's a shame. it's maddening. but people are who they are...
yes, steve, it is her job, but it is not how she thinks of her job.
her job, as she sees it, is to sell shares, make money from her
family's company, and protect them from authorities like the sec,
all the while congratulating herself for offering a product that
alleviates a lot of pain for a sizeable number of people. that's her
job and she pretty god damn good at it! i only wish she had to work
from jail where she belongs a whole lot more than many of those who
are there...
steve43. the same-same story of biel is getting as old as the hills.
if the whelans sell a few hundred million shares through their proxies in may at .0006-.0007, it'll be a good month for them. how long can kelly keep it up? who knows. what will she come up with to
prolong their money stream? who knows.
try to have a good month regardless of her and her little piggy bank.
yeah, shortly. eleven years of shortly.
investinbiel. here is the problem. no matter what happens, you as
a shareholder aren't going to see a decent reward. not for your investment, unless you bought tens of millions of shares, and not
for your patience, belief, loyalty. and btw, i did not mean day traders, or those buying and trading for .0002 bump etc. sub penny
stocks are attractive because it looks like huge profits on big
blocks of shares can be made with a little luck. but sub penny stocks are like lotto or any of the scratch off games--you spend
but you don't hit. whereas with solid well-run companies you make
a smallish percentage and it's better than most places to park
your money.
very smart probity. but why is it so hard for so many to take the
measure of the whelan family--maybe even their dog, if they have one--and just know that nothing good will ever come out of investing
in anything they are involved in? if kelly didn't appoint herself
ceo she couldn't get a job with a reputable company, not if they
looked hard into her background. she's a dishonest human being stringing a bunch of investors along who believe that because the
product works she must be interested in managing the business of
selling it competently. she's made nice money and thanks to you all
and others like you she will make a lot more. she could care less
what you think or do as long as you allow her to continue to
enrich herself. end of story!!!
i'll be surprised if this doesn't boomerang to .0005. kelly would
update if there was anything positive. like dad, she isn't capable
psychologically of making a deal. nor is she capable of any of the
obvious fixes any real business-person would've acted upon long ago.
she can sell shares. buying them is a loser's proposition. when the
buying stops, kelly will put the old kibosh on biel.
yes, that's it pro, you nailed it. i'd imagine you get most things
right. like investing here and posting here. i'm sure you're a real
successful dude with a wonderful life. you deserve everything you have.
pumpkin. now we get to watch the slide. no deals, no communication,
it's inevitable. what a place to be invested in.
excellent post simpsonly. we differ only in that for me the die is cast: aw was incapable of making a deal, kelly also. and to me, aw
was genuine though lacking managerial aptitude or skills, whereas
kelly is unethical and has an agenda that is purely self-rewarding.