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I dont know what it will close at....
but I hope the quiet period continues indefinetly..!!
i'm with you on all counts...
I love the "it's gone" quote...
That's what I'll name the boat I'll be buying if it goes..."It's Gone"
what would we do with all the free time..?
LOL
Some nice stuff came out tonight...you agree..?
alot to digest and we didn't get all the q and a...
I need a few more beers.......
nice job dread...thank you...
find a plug and keep it coming dread!
i hope people are enjoying this shareholder meeting...it may be the last one!
this some very good stuff coming at us....dread is flying right now
applause
i wonder if hillary knows about millary
Is there an HD feed..LOL
Agreed....
aren't you at the shareholder meeting?
In addition to the great job dread does.....
with the live feed from the shareholder meeting.......
I remember last year a number of people who attended posted their comments about the meeting.....for those of us that can't be there, the comments from those that can be there are appreciated...
I am going to head home, get the pretzels, chips and dip and ice down a few Sam Adams and plant myself in front of tonight's addition of dread-live!! ....to bad there can't be a video feed....
On the personal side...Leit , hope your Dad is doing ok..
Here's an interesting bit of info....
The published short position decreased 24% for the last 30 day reporting period....
TOVC $
Torvec Inc
Shares Short 165,737
Days to Cover (Short Ratio) 3.5
Short % of Float 0.99 %
Shares Short - Prior 217,916
Short % Increase / Decrease -23.94 %
Squeeze Ranking™ 3
% from 52-Wk HIGH ( 6.60 ) %
% from 52-Wk LOW ( 1.50 ) %
% from 200-Day MA ( 3.94 ) %
% from 50-Day MA ( 5.10 )
%
Price % Change (52-Wk) 88.61 %
Trading Volume - Today 8,955
Trading Volume - Average 46,849
Trading Volume Vs. Avg. 19.11 %
Total Shares - Float 16,800,000
Total Shares - Outstanding 31,162,025
When a client comes in to your office....
....do you use the pine tar...?
D1....that's just struck me as funny...
I can envision you there with your chest all puffed out wearing your old college baseball uniform while you were writing that response..LOL
People are fed up with you and your pals non-stop negative program........the vendetta program seems to be wearing out. People are on to what you guys are doing and it is having no affect...other than of course the fact that people are sick of you and sheriff's constant, full speed BS trash campaign you've had running since day one...actually since before day one if you count the RB board..
I pick speedway...
A case could be made that the iso-torque alone...
is worth $3.80 per share...when you add in the present value discounted on the other technologies in the portfolio, this price point for investing in Torvec should prove to be a bargain...
Those who got sucked in and sold in the MM frenzy or that had stops in place will regret it in my opinion.....
Hi again Lhasa..
You and I have officially been removed from the international currency exchange committee...! LOL.... My apologies as well...
Hi Lhasa...
I think you have already seen the bottom on TOVC...given the amount of turnover in the float this last several months, there appears to be a nice support level here. I dont know the exact currency translation but it looks like Tortrak has been trading around 23 cents per share in US currency....if your waiting for Torvec to hit 23 cents US it is not going to occur....you may want to put that call in to Selftrade...
Some interesting points zendo...
You have been one the people who have in the past picked up the phone and talked to G's ...I admire that for what it's worth...
Couple of observations....first on my favorite topic-the short position...........where there are published shorts there are unpublished naked shorts...
I am one who still believes there is abig naked short position as the published short position grows monthly..from everything I've seen, enforcing the naked short epidemic takes alot of resources and time...the typical targets of it, OTc.BB stocks don't have alot of either...but I offer this thought, if I'm running a company and suspect that a very large short position in my company's stock exists at the same time behind the scenes I have enough going on that will produce an event eventually triggering a frenzied cover, how much effort do I put into fighting the system vs. working on delivering monetizing events that solve the other issue at the same time...I would keep my head down and work on delivering the goods...
It's painful to watch MM's do their stuff which they are absolute masters of and a byproduct of their actions draw sales from weaker hands thinking something bad is going on..they are very good at it....In a way I admire their ability to do what they do...they create their own perfect storm.......and a company that doesnot yet to have their monetizing coming-out party is a perect target...personally, I think there are 3 or 4 different short positions on Torvec.....
Your money only dissappears in torrents if you sell your stock at a level below your average...Like you, i'd like to know whats happening but based on the ampount of info we have been given during the queit period, i dont think it was completely quiet..I think there is alot going on regardless of what happens to the share price day to day...isn't the shareholder meeting the forum for informing stockholders what is going on...why not see what the comapny has to say and then make a judgement call....?
You points are valid in my opinion but may partially be manifested in watching the share price and being pulled over to the dark side by some of our favorite posters here...LOL
I'm long and strong...
I agree dread...
My point..
....is hidding deep within the bowels of my rhetorical question...
Hey dyna...
Are you and your pals going to be tipping over cars and starting fires on the night of the shareholders meeting....?
Institutional activity on TOVC...
Thomsons is now showing the institutional trading activity to be at least 16% for the last rolling 30 day period...thats up from 15% late last week...which would indicate volume from Friday and/or today has some additional institutional participation...
Again from Thomsons...
"After a broker/dealer executes a trade, it often reports the trade to Thomson's proprietary communications network. The Total Trade Volume Chart segments each trade as either Institutional or Retail, based on the broker reporting the trade.
Institutional - a trade reported by a major brokerage firm which typically trades on behalf of major mutual funds/portfolio managers. While these firms also have retail branches, the amount of trades reported on behalf of institutional investors dwarfs the limited amount of retail trades that are reported.
Additionally, Institutional brokers often maintain internal house trading accounts as "market makers." When these firms report their trades it is impossible to determine whether the trades were executed on behalf of an institutional client or for the firm's own house trading accounts. While trading patterns for institutional clients and house accounts tend to differ, the fact that "Big Money" is behind the trades means that these investors/traders have the ability to move markets."
From Thomsons...
"After a broker/dealer executes a trade, it often reports the trade to Thomson's proprietary communications network. The Total Trade Volume Chart segments each trade as either Institutional or Retail, based on the broker reporting the trade.
Institutional - a trade reported by a major brokerage firm which typically trades on behalf of major mutual funds/portfolio managers. While these firms also have retail branches, the amount of trades reported on behalf of institutional investors dwarfs the limited amount of retail trades that are reported.
Additionally, Institutional brokers often maintain internal house trading accounts as "market makers." When these firms report their trades it is impossible to determine whether the trades were executed on behalf of an institutional client or for the firm's own house trading accounts. While trading patterns for institutional clients and house accounts tend to differ, the fact that "Big Money" is behind the trades means that these investors/traders have the ability to move markets."
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And move them they have.....
I had seen that.....
Still wouldnt account for 200,000 shares over the last 30 days showing up as institutional trades..
That could be...
Althought that doesn't seem like it would fall nto the institutional category...
I think what they are reporting is trading activity...
which is different that Institutional Holders...
Institutional activity on TOVC...
The link below indicates that at least 15% of the last rolling months activity on TOVC has been institutional..Over the last 30 days, there were roughly 1.2 million shares of TOVC traded which means the institutional portion of that is at a minimum approaching the 200,000 share level for the 30 day period....
http://thomson.finance.lycos.com/lycos/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=TOVC
In my hand....
I see Aces everywhere...is 12 Aces a good hand...?
Hi Spock...
Thought your post was well done...
Have a nice evening everyone..
Note to self....
(In order to be kindler gentler ihubber for 2007, I need to try to get along with other posters who think exactly opposite of me. Seems like (ALERT) I can do a better job of that.....Action items ---- make a list of things I have in common with sheriff to help improve our relationship)
(Sheriff in common list)
(Rough draft list below)
We post on ihub.
(Need to think of more by end of month...need to ask if he has loin cloth)
Sheeeesh...
You latch on to microscopically small items and beat them to death...let it go...
From now on when I use the term "seems like" I will put you on full alert....
for example .....It SEEMS LIKE (ALERT) the "seems like" horse is dead...
Thank you to NVED for your effort..
That is what it seems like...
Move on ...no one cares...
Did you hear...duffner's broker called the trading floor and was told that 2 50,000 share orders were placed...pass it on...LOL
Nice summary..
Appreciate the effort to keep us informed...
The MM's are enjoying themselves today....
"trying to induce a little panic selling".....
I think they were successful...
Ok ...I'll bite...
"Since none of us has a clue,this selloff sure looks like Insider trading!"
What exactly does insider trading look like...thats as funny as the comments about the price being down because Torvec and CXO are in court on the appeal today....
yikes.....
You will see the short position double or more at the end of the month...it's a good day for the shorts...
I'm on my way to get a tissue right now...
Oh, there's my venom spray right there next to my goalie pads...LOL
Is it drafty in here...? LOL
Has anyone seen my bottle of spray bottle venom..?