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Thanks... much appreciated.
They clearly are not on board as yet, as Cass also noted, there's a standard auto reply that's really unhelpful and lame. Clearly if we are contacting investor relations, we are investors not seeking to buy AOT - who composed that message? It's a tad unprofessional and irks me a lot as it's not a good sign that they have their shit together.
Well here we are July 1 and, something better be released this week. Just some update, that's not too much to ask, and why wouldn't they be happy to do that? What could be going wrong that they don't want to declare anything... it's getting a little suspicious again.
Share price is awful, but I am not surprised that people are not buying given that if they approached the company they would be ignored, get an auto reply. Hardly seems like a ready to go business.
They need to do so much more.
Yes I am tired of waiting, and yes, I think continued statements of progress, just a couple of lines even, would be good... 'we are on track, the data will be out in x weeks'
why that isn't happening, makes me feel like it's the old days... and I don't like that feeling
on top of that, shareholders/investors relations is non-existant
i have been trying to sort some papers out since April, i email about twice a week, and no reply
hardly professional
there is no investor relations department
it really annoys me
they better get their arse in gear and get this show on the road, i am starting to really lose my patience and it's been over 10 yrs
we seem to be close to a break through so, I would expect better than this...
definitely leaving a sour taste in my mouth
to tell you the truth i wanted out at the beginning of 2013 which would have been amazing for me, but unfortunately legal restrictions meant I couldn't do that and when I did get things sorted out, it was summer 2014 and the crash that led to this place...
so an enforced stick it out
and now, i thought it might be an amusing turn around that they really succeeded beyond 2013
and that might be the case
but
yeah i'm not enjoying waiting on nothing anymore
if they can't respond to an email, what are they good for?
Thanks - Yes that's what I was aware of, wondered if there was some adjustment to that... so we are in any day now, as in JULY is THE MONTH...
FROM what date is this 4-6/6-8 week projection forecasted? Where is this shown...
Why would it take so long now??????
It's the end of June, they installed in Jan... why not NOW
Now that would be brilliant
Now this is interesting...
I was wondering this myself
Anyone know the answer, or is this part of what the demo install is scoping out??
that's interesting...
and i would imagine that each oil and location has its own flow through rate between stations - which they are attempting to optimize all the time... but 100hrs covers it?
are they losing momentum at each pumping station, hence their location, and does AOT keep momentum running more through making viscosity less... ie less need for as many pumping stations? not that that will change existing set up, but for future creations, building in with AOT tech in mind, does it offer that advantage too?
I'll just leave this here...
Dr. Gallagher (FLUID DYNAMICS EXPERT CHRISTOPHER T. GALLAGHER, PHD)
"Having worked closely with pipeline operators, I recognize the unmet market need for QS Energy's patented Applied Oil Technology (AOT). In my experience working with teams of scientists and engineers to find cost effective ways to reduce crude oil viscosity and increase pipeline efficiency, I have not come across a technology that could replace traditional diluents and additives.
The AOT has the potential to reduce or eliminate dependence
on chemical additives with an elegant electromechanical system. The value proposition from both a logistics and economic standpoint for the customers is compelling. I look forward to helping advance the technology through full commercialization and anticipate rapid market uptake."
I'm ready for this
I feel you
Yes that is my understanding from reading the press releases, that the demo partner company signed an NDA - and I previously speculated as to why they did that... so that the information about the install, and tweaking to get results etc etc would not be leaked outside of QSEP control... should anything have gone wrong, been delayed on the QSEP side etc etc
It makes sense that they know they are going to get good results, and they want those results to be released when and how they want it to, rather than having anything get out there at this critical moment...
Really it's do or die right now, and this is their lifeline or the end of the line, so the NDA makes sense.
that doesn't seem logical to me,
why would you go looking for support from the industry when you are an industry disrupter?
they know the industry will come to them when they get in the right position
they have never been in the right position, until now perhaps... now this is an exciting moment...
it was an interesting hopeful concept before, with some evidence, and now, there is a practical live demo site and real world data, and a business plan
hardly paper is it
I totally resonate...
Yeah the jitters of the past, having been on this rollercoaster for some time...
Will feel much better when it's way past .35 and into the realm of $3/5 where it should be!
Yes what is with this dropping price and selling now... it's so weird
Is it people who got in when it jumped, and aren't really paying attention to the company news? It makes no logical sense not to sit the summer out at least...
Is it one seller or a few, or many during this time since March? Low volume...
It does not make my day when we dip down under .25 I want to see us well over .35 this week, and longing for a return to nearly 2 as it once was... then I'll feel much better about the future... it's got to be coming soon
surely
thanks for this - interesting
super honest and very true...
i totally relate...
i did not expect to go on this particular ride
and i am super grateful that it appears to be turning around into a pleasant surprise!
Like I have said earlier, the results are not going to be a surprise to QSEP they already know what they are going to be, it's getting them out under the precise circumstances of the demo...
I am sure that part of the install process was to create a device and test it, and calibrate it and get the new demo install created, and now, installed, and functioning, and then those results, can be publicized
so yes, the results are good, there is no way they would do all this if they didn't already have that part in the bag... the results are not the key, the business set up is the key... can they build and install and maintain these devices at the volume they will no doubt be wanted by the industry... a company - such as the demo partner, needed to be guinea pig for this, and their expected contract for more devices is all part of the plan...
it's on, finally, and I have been here since 2009, so it's a good feeling
love it!!!
It's good to laugh, it's been a stressful ride... thanks Sano for providing the fodder for our amusement...I am looking forward to the come back from this, as it appears there isn't one... and that makes it all the more interesting!
The funny thing about the laws of nature is that we are constantly discovering we are wrong, and that reality is more fluid than we once thought...
At the end of the day, at the core of creation, it's all electromagnetic, and so, if this tech is based on that, then it surely has a place in reality...
My sense is that there are, as there have been already, some very interesting revelations about the nature of things that this exploration has revealed, I recall a few years ago QSEP or may have been STWA then, saying that they discovered that the AOT had to be calibrated for each site as not all crude oil or whatever state of oil they were working on, had the same 'field' around it... so they had to adjust their field accordingly... I found this fascinating from the perspective of the different energies at different places on the planet, and in the fluids...
An environmentalist at heart, I love this line...
The AOT has the potential to reduce or eliminate dependence on chemical additives with an elegant electromechanical system.
fullyfaithfulinthefuture!
ah this is good news...
Dr. Gallagher noted, "Having worked closely with pipeline operators, I recognize the unmet market need for QS Energy's patented Applied Oil Technology (AOT). In my experience working with teams of scientists and engineers to find cost effective ways to reduce crude oil viscosity and increase pipeline efficiency, I have not come across a technology that could replace traditional diluents and additives. The AOT has the potential to reduce or eliminate dependence on chemical additives with an elegant electromechanical system. The value proposition from both a logistics and economic standpoint for the customers is compelling. I look forward to helping advance the technology through full commercialization and anticipate rapid market uptake."
faithinthefuture says it all!
again, exactly...
also i think the industry is very old school if it ain't broke, there's been political issues around that too...
not likely to be interested in industry disrupters unless they make a big noise, which we seem to be about to do... i would imagine the fact that qsep has lasted this long in R&D etc gives some credentials too... so it really is the moment to shine or, that's it... and I sense they know it too...
resilience to have kept going, and to have adapted, and now, to be in the field, in partnership and creating an active installation... there really couldn't have been any other interest til now when there were other investments they could make...
perhaps we are all dreamers, indeed, when we got in this thing was called Save The World Air... which would hardly have been the ethos of those investing in the oil industry! so, we liked the idea of that, and future tech to make life and the world a better place... definitely didn't realise how long the road was, but that's inexperience in the industry and business perhaps...
i once consulted with a friend in the aero industry and got their felt sense on it, and they got all the negative press and just make a no conclusion on it... as nonsense... so that will be there as a problem, hence why coming out on top now will be so much more amazing... that they were written off once, which was probably due to bad management and attempting to run before walking... which sent us back to crawling on all fours til now, now it seems we might be about to stand up and take our first step!
faith in the future
Exactly
The science must work or else this would have been over a long time ago... the journey has been one of business, and how to formulate it... it only now makes sense, they are doing all the right things, they need to install a working site, and have a partner in the industry to vouch for the experience and the results...
I can't see the results being bad, like you say, they would not have gone this far if they were, they clearly did tests there before, we know that they would have created a site-specific AOT and they will tweak it till it's doing what it's meant to before they release the results...
so, the only problem is time, how long will it take, and will there be a lag that will dishearten investors... clearly not us that have been in it for so long, and been through worse times, and really see this as a pivotal moment... but new investment might lag until these results come through... which means, share price might dip or stagnate... can't see it crashing as, who's left who wants to get out?
yes, these other aspects of the business have proved more important, as we all know, being smart or having a great product is not a guarantee of success, there are other key factors, marketing and management and maintenance of relationships... all of these have not been part of the show til now, so, this is exciting and this is what will set the stage for success... so yes, it is still tense, because this is a new experience for them, and we all know, business does not always run smoothly... but the leap forward we need is, in my opinion, just around the corner... and then another plateau and then, if it can adapt to create the functional business model to get the job done, it will be amazing...
when I chose my profile name I was faking it to make it lol... but now, I'm really enjoying feeling it...
faithinthefuture
That's very interesting... thanks for posting...
It's probably easy to get a list of those companies, and they would likely be the first to target, as you say.
10 long years here, and yes, it's getting interesting!
Good Morning
Well isn't it nice to be getting lots of communication, I like being kept informed, we didn't have this quite recently, but it now seems we are moving, this thing is on the road now, and this is a huge milestone... without a doubt, they would not be launching this to fail, so... good times lie ahead
It's been a long hard road, ups and big downs. Years.
Now we have weeks, and then, I sense, a series of significant reports of results and contracts.
Very encouraging.
Feeling my profile name getting stronger and stronger!
all installs are projected to be self-financed by Qsep as they are not selling units but installing a service....
so it makes sense...
controlling the narrative... mm, really depends on this contract... it does appear to be difficult for the company to reveal exact data, but they could corroborate a % increase / decrease flow rate and, reference their need for chemical diluent...
but, yes, i could see that qsep might like to control when that info gets out, so they have a chance to make it work, attend to glitches etc...
they can still send the data to an independent analysis - independent of qsep and the company...
lots of ways it could go...
so, in your world, this whole thing is a scam, and this is another big play to get shareholders to give them money? doesn't really make sense... does it?
it totally makes sense that this is not as transparent right now, but hopefully it will be soon
Could it be
that they split the costs? with QSEP fronting this end of the install, they also need to establish install costs which they won't have had a chance to do til now...
to me, this is not so alarming, QSEP have faith that it's going to work, and be a good demo site for potential commercial contracts to be nailed...
this is fascinating really, it would be great to see the whole project laid out, and explained, hopefully, they will do that... at some point...
I don't think we know the terms of the refundability, which is another shame but I can sense that they are keeping things to themselves as they are inexperienced at this juncture of the enterprise, and they need to cut their teeth and be able to claim expertise of the commission and install and functionality process - so yes.... to me, I feel this is positive, they needed to spend some money to move this forward... how would any other company jump on board first? they needed a demo site - and, it's mid-May and we have one, it's just a question of time, to see how these details pan out... it can't be a disaster or else they wouldn't have gone for it yet... so, there's a ton of confidence here... is it misplaced? we shall see!!!
I've been down about it over the years, but today, I'm feeling my profile name.
Yeah I am curious as to why there has been secrecy about this...
Is it prudence as they want to install, get it working right, get excellent results before they reveal it?... so as to save face in the event of any hiccups along the way as basically, this is the pilot scheme?
And we are expected to believe that by June they have clients lined up to go there to the Demo site, just less than a month away, and we don't have that release of information?
Could it be that the timeline is not adding up? Which is why the stocks are down?
Not happy seeing them down, and curious as to why, given all this positive news, and seemingly everything lining up, why after two conferences, not more movement?
Is there something we are missing here?
I'm ready after over 10 yrs to see some positive movement.
Yes, hopeful stuff for sure...
I had to go back and re-read the previous two shareholder releases as I felt sure they had said they had already installed! So this was a bit disappointing to me, but looking back the wording is vague, and dare I say misleading... Showing the image of the installation ready to go, but not really explaining what they were doing. Why so vague. Was that not the installation? That was a test install to build what that site needs? It was inventory AOT... mm curious, not specifically designed for the demo site installation. Seems to me, that they could have managed expectations on that better, and been more clear.
I am surprised that they are at the conference without Demo site up and running and without the data. But I guess that they will just have to tease that market and get them hanging on til the end of the month and into May.
I guess it's coming but, as I have been here a long long long time these delays do not make me a happy bunny.
I'm ready for some hard fact good news. Where is this demo site for instance, when are they going to release that information?
But yeah, looks good, but it's looked good before... being only 0.04 up is not exactly making my day. When it recovers over $2 then I'll be happy!
Zerodin - It worked for me, I got it as a pdf now, thanks for that!
That was dated mid March, seems to be suggesting that this is disruptive tech, nice...
I had a dream this week that the share price had jumped to 50... not sure which 50, .50 which it seems is the ask price right now or $50 which would be happy days all round
I would love my story with this to turn out mindblowing, would be good in the book I'm writing!
Wow, that's very interesting, I would love to see that... I have not heard anything about that! Can you share it, in sections perhaps?
but then why go to this conference?
and yes, there must be more than data in this presentation, there must be deals that are being signed or else it's still not a business... are the deals subject to the demo site, data and visit to the demo site that has been already going ahead?
what is raising awareness - of the company/product/service? but it's not available, it's not out there yet...
they must be presenting a request for what they need to go to the next level, which for me, seems to be the manufacture of AOT units and monitoring of AOT units, they maybe want biz partners or to set up subsidiary companies to fulfil the orders...
what can they fulfil as it stands? they need a whole new company structure no? design - as each site is specific, manufacturing, monitoring, installation... there's a lot to do, and yes, they need those orders, those contracts... but if they are going on the E Diluent model, then, the units remain the property of the company - and therefore the contract does not pay for the unit... am I right?
Great question, and the previous post...
Now my understanding would be that they need more money to fulfil an order, to manufacture these units?
But yes, what are they actually going to the conference for, and will they have the public data out by then, or launch it there?
They want more money that much is clear, investment to grow bigger, will that mean a dilution of shares?
What is the win for this weekend?
I've been in this a long long time... 2009, I'm ready for things to go skyhigh, this surely is a do or die moment?!
Thanks for all of your explorations on this, good luck to all.
Been in since 2009...
Very exciting day yesterday - a little teaser of promise huh, and now, watching the shorts... would be a bit of a gamble to short this now though wouldn't it...
I mean we have been here long enough to have had our hopes dashed but this really is it, isn't it... the microcap investor event must be lined up to follow excellent results... which they already have from that site before they put the commercial demo in... so what could go wrong now?!!!!
Went briefly into green yesterday, not as happy today, but, have hopes for insanely good March/April in the lead up to this event and then, after... well... 2019... 10 years in the making, there was a high point in 2013 but for some reason I couldn't get out then, must have had to stay for this... so, it's gotta be $3 soon and then yes double digits... who knows maybe triple digits one day, I like to think I'll leave some in just to see where it goes...
Def not selling yet... probably til $3 and not all... so here I am...
Saw this abbreviation on the board, liked it so GLTA !!!
omg wow
this is a great day... so good to see it going the other way
faith in the future...
finally
what a ride
When was that article?
This is the weirdest company - is there anything else out there remotely like it?
Nothing makes any sense at all...
The share price is tanking, I felt it would go to 12, haven't seen that yet... it's pretty dire. How are they going to sell shares, perferred or otherwise on this basis?
I don't get where the profit is in this game... or has it already been fleeced out of the shareholders? How much money has been 'taken' in to the company?
Is it a front for something else, and yes, what about these characters - don't they care about their employment history? Or is it all old boys club and it will be fine for them regardless of being involved in a company that's achieving NOTHING TANGIBLE for years and years...
So much promise, but we are moving into times when actually we need to move away from oil, so how progressive and Save the World Air is this now? No wonder they changed the name.
So other universities are interested, hm, funded by who or what?
Why on earth is it so hard to get some transparency on this company and what it's doing, capable of doing or, not capable of doing.
We can only be left to make a poor assessment as all we have is hot air and falling share prices.
Any of you want my 100,000 shares? Who are the believers? I might leave one share in there til end of 2018, but frankly it's been a weird 9 year journey and there are other more exciting areas to feel energetically tied to... My vision for this back then was a win win environmental investment.
Cannot find the words to describe what this is. Will we get anything happening in this first quarter?? They can't be that stupid, they do know how to evade and say a lot without saying anything at all.
Who the f were the 2mil shareholders plus who voted YES? How many shareholders holding what volume? Where can we see that information?
My head hurts even trying to think of all of this...
I FEEL YOU...
it's quite a kick in the
to be in this game since 2009
and miss out on 2013...
then hang in there in hope
and... now, what the is going on?
why absolutely NO NEWS
I cannot imagine this goes down with any other company or stock
at this stage in the game
time is moving fast
technology is moving fast
i don't see QSEP moving fast
utterly confusing
i'm a completely different person now
that's coming up to 10 years ago and i just shake my head in disbelief
what on earth is going on in there
we simply don't know
and what we do know
is not good
which hurts
where it matters
confidence is low
it's got to the stage of hanging in there
because trapped in below entry point
its hard to like this company
the way its treated its shareholders is appalling
but then who are the shareholders really
i was flabbergasted that so many voted for the share thing
mind blow
almost seems real
like those shareholders aren't real people with lives and bills to pay families to support
like a computer voting AI scam
how long can this show run on and on
its pure misery really
toss us a bone already
something to chew on
meaty and juicy
we have lost faith
and the future is knocking on our doors
time is of the essence
what is the hold up?
Thank you - that's reassuring. I don't know how I feel about things with Qsep right now. It definitely is a do or die moment, we have to have some definitive news or this is over. And it's strange that we have such little news, real tangible news to go on, that it's hard to even say which way this will go.
It is so speculative.
It seems from what you shared Jason knows we need definitive tangible progress, there can be no more stalling, without it just failing on itself... there has just been too little to hold on to... pipe dreams literally... it has to move now.
I don't appreciate this dip down back to this share price, it doesn't feel like the right direction of course... what could be holding things up from there being an announcement, unless there is just now success with the units, they are still floundering to make the concept work. Which is the death knoll for this company, they simply cannot go on being R&D without being real world solutions.
What money have they even raised from the new share issuance? How do they expect to make that difference if there is no reason to buy in right now. They are kinda caught in between a rock and a hard place, which is why I felt the share thing wasn't the way to go. How was it supposed to work? Really?
Anyone? Just based on the idea that they will be manufacturing units, and need cash for that, but, who is contracting them? So who will buy shares based on what?
I'm at a loss a lot of the time, though as a long standing high volume shareholder, I really wanted this to work, not just financially but literally to make the world a better place. I don't see how they are about that now, although with less chemicals used, will be a plus... Make it happen QSep...
That's interesting isn't it...
And they optioned in at super low? Do you have the data on that...
It sort of defies all logic that that would be a ruse to create some hot air... who's risking that money?
Just gambling on a rush to double and run?
I second that...
that is my feeling too...
there has to be a contract, it's time to get this show on or off the road...
i hope its on!
that's a super uplifting message for this board
well articulated, makes sense... and feels good. thanks for your perspective.
i'm ready to be very happy with the way things unfold.