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if williams ousts droy and kyle and turinni...
stock price will really bounce
williams eliminates kyle stock will be over 20 cents in less than a hour, rids us of turinni add another 5 cents in a matter of hours
the stock wants you out sosa,
i anticipate williams wins in a general election but some other directors will not even be able to be listed because they have been fired by ed.
so you think the audit committee and the rules for removal of a director are grey areas--personally i don't think so, the question is one of action, no doubt williams has demanded things be undone, and no doubt the board has refused to comply. On one hand you seem to be saying that its a matter of recognizing williams authority i think that its more of a matter of recognizizing delaware's authority, delaware clearly has that authority but the only way they will exercise it is if it is brought to delaware, clearly management would not do so--that would be suicidal, which leaves it to williams to put the noose around management's neck and place them on the hanging platform, the rules say that if the noose is sufficently compliant the court of chancery will open the trap door in the hanging platform
further the court specifies what it means to be compliant in the way of elections and the power of the audit committee, turinni and the other members cannot say now that the audit committee is invalid, i know from personal experience in analagous situations that simply will not fly--retroactively failing the audit committee's existance. And there is plenty of information that the process of voting a director is also crystal clear. both processes in dispute have been tried and taught and are well known to the corporate legal community its very possible that if management actually disputes either of these two matters that they could be sanctioned by the court.
Now, does this process grind out in its entirety? in light of what has just been said it would be foolish of management to fight williams in a battle that they cannot win and their attorney if they have one will have to tell them so (though it might want to drag it on for a bit to make a buck). Hence i see a settlement unless williams does not want to settle, and i would not blame him in the least if he bulldozes forward. This reminds me of the 2008 process of getting rid of carlos and embracing drago simultaniously however, drago is not in the same position as he was w/ carlos not by a long shot--there simply is too much history of interfering with the company for him to have that kind of leverage
in the end desmond and kyle will be brought to tears as drago throws them into the scrap heap as he focuses all attention on making williams happy, turinni will again somehow survive beyond kyle and desmond, and will quietly drift away, carlo will be out and lance might be in, but not as a director, williams will put some real powerhouses on the board and drago will give the company back a piece of the european patents baxter and brennan will also be thrown into the scrap heap along w/ kyle and desmond. as for storm he's going to shut up and take what the company gives him. Tmobile will finally move to a markman construction and settle for no less than 50,000,000 bucks plus will license from calypso
and yes the stock price will wildly fluctuate untill order is restored
these are my predictions for 2012
(ps i already somewhat doubt my predictions...)
so far that proof has not been adequately cited either in court documents or on this thread, i further suspect that it may never be. Like i said, for now i'm defering to williams investigative skills
no i dont' think its about what williams thinks at all, not about his opinion at all, its about management not providing proof that he can trust them to move foreward with anyone competent in the corporate governance chair.
every so often people hear of drivers that get into trouble running a stop sign, most of the time there are no consequances, so should we play the odds?
not unless you are driving an aircraft carrier
not long ago i heard a report from a funeral of a terrible happening where someone did not heed a stop sign--their car was smashed to oblivion. the report was simple, back in high school some recalled that he often ran stop signs and sadly recalled that at the funeral reception.
it does not make it any less bad knowing that fact, but it does make sense
kyle and cristian have been playing chicken with a stop sign in the dead of night with drago and williams, however, because drago drives his semi w/ the lights out they are pretending that he's no longer a part of the game and heap the blame on williams
btw all, williams has a duty to shareholders, if kyle and cristian had a better plan than williams and could prove to him that was the case he'd gladly step asside in my opinion-afterall he is a shareholder
therefore if he's not convinced that what management is doing is good for shareholders then i'm likewise convinced, i'll defer to dave williams judgement above any show management puts on to prove otherwise unless there is full disclosure and compliance with the rules further, if i'd be convinced that williams was wrong, hypothetically speaking, then i'd bet that williams would also agree that its safe for him to let things go
turinni and kyle drew first blood eom
sorry, but we should not be arguing about anything but how much the tmobile deal is worth, unfortunately, turinni and kyle blinked and worse yet set everything even further back with their fiasco approach to dealing w/ williams
well you are basically saying the rules are not rules unless they are forceably upheld
we are talking about all or nothing decisions that dramatically change outcomes not some wizzing match to get the strongest microscope to prove whether or not a jurat seal touches any of the surrounding documentation
--when driving do you speed alot?
assuming you are privy to all that desmond kyle turinni, storm and drago know, the mere fact that you suggest the company could have the tmobile scuttled by negative perceptions of management proves that you know everything they are doing is subject to fall apart at any time, you would like to make others believe that that instability is controled by shareholders that post on the message boards,
FALSE, that instability is due to managment doing things WRONG IN THE FIRST PLACE
in comes the blame brigade silently sawing the legs out from under the table with one hand while the other hand is above the table pointing the finger at everyone that is holding the table up
you desmond, kyle, drago, cristian, storm are all working together to destroy calypso, each for their own selfish reasons, carlo and lance are only slightly more unwitting
"Calypso has what appears to be a highly qualified CTO starting next week."
i respectfully disagree, while i believe his credentials as an inventor and industry technical expert are precisely what the company needs on the technical side of things, by virtue of the fact that he accepted an executive position that requires that he not only abide by corporate rules and regulations but also that he is directly involved in seeing that the company comply with them, he has shown everybody that he either does not know what he is doing, or that he does not care. And this is not even including the fact that in addition to being an officer he is also a director which even further holds him accountable. Either he is a total fool or a liar and either way he has disqualified himself. however, if he were to come to his senses and submit a resignation letter to williams for what he has done then he might be able to have a future with the company once things are sorted out on the director side of things
as a director and investor and bank-roller of the case it was his right to demand it and it would have been the decent thing for kyle and cristian to do--that is complying with that demand
vote to fire williams based on nominating kyle?
that's the only reason to fire or vote against dave williams that's the only mistake that he made during his directorship at calypso
behind the scenes alot of shareholders have been watching both williams and desmond and kyle and turinni, i'd be willing to bet that the reports against the management side are criminal whereas on the independent director side it boils down to things that have no legal remedy
like saying "(i'm sick and tired of you lying and stealing from me so) SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP", good luck getting damages from williams for saying that
thats garbage first of all the best attorneys keep their discovery underwraps and nail their opponent at trial and alot of people were slated to be at trial some i'll bet even were planning to show up on drago's list that he named but did not expect to show--imho they were going to double cross drago! Turinni and kyle and storm destroyed all that to it seems arrange a highly lucrative self serving gain for themselves, unless you are a party to this ripoff you ultamately will realize how they have betrayed you and others, most however don't care because they are pathetic worms that would kill for a few crumbs off of drago's table
so am I, unless it is not, litton has been clammoring for disclosure but all the sudden silent, me i was passive, but now i'm concerned.
feelings suspicions go both ways, but at this point, they have made an appointment prior to proving the deal, neither of the new directors have publically stated that they were climbing on board because of the diac deal that i can recall (they may have and if they have i am sorry)
given that 3 out of 4 directors approved of the deal w/ drago but its not disclosed yet is a real burn on shareholders and is the same as the 2008 and 2009 deal when richard pattin failed shareholders,
drago worked his magic twice w/ richard, has humiliated williams, and now we are supposed to think he has not tried to up the anty on share holders
the progression has been
25% then 50% now 75% the next step is to take it all! desmond reid, kyle pierce, cristian turinni and now these two directors have failed us and are based on past history guilty untill proven innocent
(Addition to message below) original message: yup a proxy for an underlying scam is always the same scam, each time they hit us with "its ok, I'm here now" and each time, not only is it not ok, but neither they are here or there in any instance
sosa, you would make a terrible director because you don't care about this company being a good investment, you only want to be part of a club that marches around self importantly,
btw, i can criticise you openly since you put your name in to be a director
you are here, knowing full well what the rules are, that management is acting illegally and further that it does matter since williams is not accepting the management's false interpertation
your interpretation is that rules to protect shareholders don't matter and that the less a company pays attention to the rules the better the company is for you
fact williams is still a director if you cannot accept that then nothing that follows will make any sense
part of me wants a huge rumble w/ all the supporters of current management to retire all of them once and for all
I want to watch the scums high-tail it out of dodge like the cowards they are
well for their sake, for our sake, it does not matter if they are stopped, if they are not stopped then it might
no, its not a good day when someone that could have been an asset with all of their wonderful expertise has chosen to bail on ethics and reason, no the new calypso wireless is the biggest scam yet
the clip demise of management as depicted in blade runner is simply too horriffic to post yet i see them as responding in like w/ violent and spazmodic tantrums as they are being taken out of the picture
calypso will be brused and those that were fooled will be shocked at how childlike their responses will be
calypso has no expert on marketing in south america nor any expert in FMC dsu is right and you are wrong i finally have in my mind what people that support current management will be like when harrison ford finishes you all off...
everyone always dreamed of throwing down carlos mendoza and later drago but my hate for the current band of scallywaggs eclipses all of that I herby fully pledge my allegence to DSU's full platform against management
we need to have some kind of uniform identifier like a logo or something to put in all of our profiles and signatures to indicate our defiance
phase 1, of what? are you suggesting that an illegal appointment was part of the plan at the shareholder meeting?
the more i think about this the more I have to say that management is way out of line the question is whether it will come as a suprise to the new directors
the so called "save calypso wireless" is a total joke, ive never seen such hokey crap
everyone will get what they deserve and I hope to be among the first to electroshock their high-fives
and so you are trying to imply that calypso will somehow benefit?
don't think so, the question is whether this sophisticated individual is aware that his appointment doesn't mean squat?
well posturing prior to what? its all posturing, no matter who is involved.
the sad thing is that if all of this is because of kyle's "integrety" that drago is not going to destroy the company i still don't know what that will mean
some will say it does not matter what it means, that arguement can be made by both sides
others will say it does matter, again an arguement made by both sides
i have no arguement other than there is bogosity but now at this point i'm willing to say that im uncertain where that will take shareholders, i'm at a loss, of the people that i'm willing to listen to, i have you dsu and highrider, and its unclear to me that i can assign either to one hand or the other for the purposes of comparison.
like others i'd like to see the bastard become a king, the question is will it matter that he was a basterd, will it matter that he was an SOB.
its messed up, at this point no one knows but drago as friggn always, and man am i sick of this crap, i wish nlighn, bennitto, and bilcoln would return to give us some guidance
someone needs to publish a calypso calandar of upcoming events and sticky post it
what's that supposed to mean? what does "grand slam" have to do with it?
you mean that you are not actually going to blame dave williams for something?
It looks like kyle and cristian no longer strictly control management, nor the board, it does not say if he has co-employment in addition to his position at calypso, or whether he is acting strictly as a consultant, he has not rendered a forward looking quote either as to his plans for the company, further wonder about being an "executive director" what the significance of that is.
as a consultant i suppose this will look good on his resume so i suppose that neither kyle, lance, nor carlo will be without gain if since outside of people that closely follow the never ending saga no one will be the wiser
you are probably correct, but now as they claim they can do anything, but then again, kyle probably thought that anyone vetted by her would automatically have the same mind set, imagine there suprise that the new "director" wants to actually make an informed decision. Its sad however that they will blame williams for that too, but the new director is in texas and is now buds w/ daic?
Who knows, just like dave was supprised by kyle, its very possible that kyle and cristian are suprised by their new appointment
we are not hearing any more about checkmates but in a game where the rules don't apply, its very possible to have both more than one king and queen with the same color...
given that the vote is over, what is the purpose of bashing williams unless he's forming a shareholder support base for further action?
IF the terms were reasonable and it would not have an adverse impact on either tmobile / diac outcomes, i would be against any director that did such, but we may never know what the terms are etc., so the suspicions are just a tool to raise fear and doubt through insinuation etc. unless otherwise proven
I was hoping no one would post today or tomorrow, it would have been kind of a deafining poetic silence, so much for that,
yup drago just might think its time to get back in the ring w/ calypso, but this time around, dave williams will not have turinni and kyle strapped to each of his ankles
Ive been worried about the relationship between clyw and the economy at large for approximately half a decade now, it seems that as things have waxed and waned calypso got one chance after the next to make a move that would have been recognized by the broader markets but each time, though exceptional potential existed its been generally decreasing and largly disproportionate with company dilution which means that little by little steadfast longs are increasingly battle weary from continued helpings of more of the same
but a fair settlement from tmobile would put enough on the table to stop all the bickering, tmobile know's that and that's why they are not doing it
its been put to them to remedy the situation, they have chosen to break the law instead
"our patent"? right now it's just drago's-eom
clyw's troubles are a symptom of a much larger epidemic of fraud and corruption, diac is just a cog in the wheel
seeing all this makes you wonder what the value of a soul is if it is here only to be lost-it's a diffacult paradox and makes one wonder what is real in the greater sense: our advisaries or the adversity that they are destined to create as a series of proverbial hoops that only a select few are priviledged enough to know to be as such but only because of an extrinsic faith that has somehow found its way.
turinni's background suggests that he would be familiar with such concepts nonetheless the current state of the company clearly says that he does not care in the least