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Yeah ok “David” Amazing you still try to maintain that the governor was at the office as you are clearly lying about that many other people than I have checked on and verified he was not at the office as you know. I wish it had been true that would have had a lot of meaning. Well I think I have beat this lie of yours into the ground enough I am done here for now. But if you start slinging lies around about the company again I will be back to validate. I know it’s hard once a liar always a liar but try to turn over that new leaf and stick to the facts.
The problem is that alias takes good factual information from the company and twists it together with made up lies like the governor BS and then you are left trying to figure out and validate what are the good facts and what are the lies.
P with all respect just contact the office. If you tried before then try again. Harry is a good person he will get back to you.
Well P for accuracy what I said was that Harry said that a “David Smith” had not visited the office. Harry also stated that the governor of Kentucky had not visited the office. Two pieces of information I asked him directly, it was not hear say. I have never communicated with Robert I know nothing about him or what he or may not have said. This has gone back and forth on this board plenty and I am not going to get in a back and forth with it again. That information and any other can be easily verified by contacting Harry and asking whatever questions you or anyone else may have. It is not some special club or secret hand shake it is a phone number and an email address that anyone can use. Just take a few minutes and write the email or make the phone call. InvestorRelations@USFuelCorporation.com (856)753–1046
I have heard similar as posted that there are many updates coming also with Qs coming soon and in Harry’s words “Lots going on”. All general public information that anyone who contacts the company would get. As I have said before I want nothing more than for this company to succeed and reach its goals and in my opinion it will and is on a good path now even though it has certainly been slower than we would all like. I am all about facts not tilting or swaying things to the positive or negative with inaccurate information. So let’s keep to the facts on the board as this unfolds it’s really not such a difficult concept. Be positive but be accurate.
Get in touch with them? joe had dinner with the whole office back in June remember cytrx they are all best friends, yeah
I want nothing but for this company to succeed and reach its goals and in my opinion it will and without you and your lies. Be optimistic and highlight facts that really happen not things that you have made up. Call me as many names as you want all it does is show the level of the person we are dealing with here. I am done going back and forth with you, people can make up their own minds and contact the company if they have questions they are there and they do respond.
I hope the Thorazine also covers compulsive lying.
Then I suggest that anyone with any questions contact the company and check for themselves.
Think whatever thoughts you want, the board is for positive or negative exchanges.
But I'm not sure the game player realizes how serious falsely invoking the governor's name as being in a specific place at a specific time to hype and elevate a stock price so that one can potentially dump shares is.
Unfortunately thinly traded stock like this one can be manipulated to a point so that some can make a few pennies which is not healthy for the company. Everyone should be aware of that and do their own DD when specific things that sound to good to be true or to bad to be true show up.
Yes factual business talk should be stuck to, the board does not need fabrications. The company is doing just fine with the facts.
Let me try to keep it short this time.
Harry does not know a "David Smith".
Harry said a "David Smith" has not visited the office.
The Governor of Kentucky has not visited the office.
ALL FACTS - Contact the office to verify.
I’m sure another alias will pop up before long spouting lies wont it dinner joe.
I am a long time investor here and I want nothing more than for this company to succeed in building its CTL plants and for the stock price to go up and stay up. But I want to see this price rise on facts and solid progress forward not on bad information otherwise the price is not going to do anything but come right back down.
The Governor of Kentucky did not go to the office and visit Harry yesterday, I got this information directly from Harry today and I would encourage anyone here to contact the company directly and check for themselves.
Is this a true statement?
"Oopse, did I forget to tell you that the governor of KY was at the office today."
if so it that is the best news I have heard in years and it dwarfs anything else being talked about so far. I am going to follow up with Harry on this one.
I will echo what doc is saying they do respond when contacted. I have never had Harry not respond anytime I have contacted him and I am a no one special non insider. Try it, and if you already tried then try it again.
I have also heard the same that the company intends to become more open once they become fully reporting. Hopefully that will be soon
well you know its never enough but I think we are pretty well positioned for non insiders. Lets hope for the best, make it happen Harry.
Maybe we should have picked up some more at .02 doc. not a bad rise in the first half hour of the day
Well P7 the last thing we want is for the stock to go up based on someone screaming great things are coming buy buy buy we have heard that one too many times. Fortunately the stock has evolved to a point where it doesn’t even flinch for something like that. We need a move upward based on solid steps forward and substance otherwise the price will just come right back down which does us longs no good.
I would encourage you and others to contact the company directly, Harry has always responded every time I have contacted him. Just my opinion but I believe him to be a good and sincere man and I am glad he is the one in charge of this. From what I understand they are close with the filings I know we have been hearing that for a while but it sounds like it should be sooner than later at this point. Contact Harry he will respond to you.
Why don't you just get in your car and drive down the road and go have dinner with them then you can ask all those questions.
"Funding sources have been identified" I realize identified does not mean in hand but does your statement mean they have also identified the other 35% of funding or have we still only identified the EB-5 65%?
the complex audit completion has been near for a number of months, did he indicate if the current meaning of near is within 2013 or is this moving to a 2014 thing? That is not intended to be a sarcastic statement though it may sound that way.
I am curious why people are leaving with these filings coming "soon" guess we will wait for the statement
Agree midtown hopefully that will happen soon with the filings. I am a little concerned about this Paul Adams disappearance I traded emails with him just at the end of June and now poof..gone. Would be nice to understand what happened.
why what did Fred have to say on this?
Ah, ok thanks for the clarification
One other observation, AVNE (Aventura Equities Inc) which is the parent company of Renewed World Energies stock price has jumped over the last 3 weeks from .05 to .20. They are also catching up on all of their filings for past few years and released an annual report. Looks like first filings in years. Renewed World Energies is that company that USFF is involved with on that joint venture with the bioreactor algae thing. I have not gone over it very closely but on first glance the company does not appear to have much else currently going on except for that joint venture with USFF. So I wonder if all this current activity and big jump in price has anything to do with working with USFF? Just something to keep an eye on time will tell.
Now if we could just figure out what happened to Paul Adams and Stephen Luck? What a twisting winding journey this is.
On the "About US Fuel" tab on the main page the drop down menu has a tab for the "board of directrors" and the "management team". Baggot, Chady and Drinkwater are currently listed. Adams is not listed on the management team anymore and Luck is not listed on the board of directors anymore.
If you get the opportunity you may want to ask them why Paul Adams and Stephen Luck are no longer listed on the board of directors or management team on the company website? Have they left the company?
Does what you think is happening involve USFF?
I did not take your little dinner comment as humor and I doubt most on here did. Instead of just continually doubting who Paul Adams is why don't you contact him for yourself and ask him. He has now published his direct email address for anyone to email him that wants to. I have been emailing with him for months and so have others. He is there and he is who he says he is. Verify it for yourself if you do not believe.
What Kinds of questions, well I’d say clarifying questions concerning information that is already public. There were things about EB-5 that I did not understand he helped clarify. No I did not ask about the audit specifically, but I did ask about the Qs and Ks and from what I understand they are currently being reviewed in draft. Again you are not going to get new ground breaking information, that information will be posted on the website. That’s the best I can describe it anyway hope that helps
I recommend that you try the IR contact information again. Fred did state that he is not using his personnel email address for company business anymore so if you are using his .net address that maybe why you are not getting a response.
I have received a very prompt and professional response from Paul every time I have contacted him. My questions are answered to the extent that he is permitted to answer them. He answered questions I had just yesterday. They are there and they do respond but don’t expect any new information, the website is the way they provide new information. Hope that helps
Cytrx he came on here to help provide some clarity and dialogue to the what the website already states. I for one was glad he took the time to do this and like reading what he has to say. If you don’t want to read it then don’t read it but don’t criticize his attempts to try and help here. You are doing a poor job as an admin on this board!!
Cytrx should make a phone call to the company and talk to him about it instead of making random statements implying that he wasn't on here.
Agree Gator, Paul comes on here to try and provide a little more clarity to what's on the website and he is maligned for it, nice
YES cytrx he was and his comments were much appreciated and I hope he has time to give another general status here at some point.
So what did Fred have to say?
I tend to agree with you. I do not like seeing missed milestones and silence any more than the next person but that in itself does not indicate failure of the project nor does lack of new information every day. Also something else to consider is someone in a recently deleted post indicated that they had contacted the transfer agent and the number of issued shares had again gone up dramatically. Now on the surface that seems awful and I am the last person that wants to see more dilution however IF that were true it may indicate that Global has taken the bite we speculated may happen. IF they did then perhaps things are unfolding the way the company intended. All just my opinion and speculation and I know lots of “ifs” and “maybes” along with the PPS being crap but just another possibility to consider to all the lights out talk. Time will tell.
Another missed milestone, grand. I am starting to wonder. Hey Paul how about some type of an update of what the problem is.
Looks like the Novajo Council picture made it to the company home page, news page is updated with the article also. Hopefully something good coming out of that or they probably would not have put it there.
http://usfuelcorporation.com/
More Dilution?... say it isn't so
Just to reiterate what some of the others have said, the company does respond if you contact them. I received a very prompt and professional response within 1 day when contacting them a few weeks ago.
Also Paul said he would try to post on here a minimum of every 2 weeks with some type of update so its good to hear that he will continue to maintain a regular presence on the board.
The price and volume are low as you noted but if this all comes together the way it seems to be on track to now could be considered a good buying opportunity.
I have been with this one for many years and I must say I am more optimistic then I ever have been before but of course time will tell.