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lets ASSume BKMP does have a 20% interest in TFN
[which i dont believe they do]
and lets project $100M in gross revs down the road with very generous 50% margins
thats $10M to BKMP before their operating expenses, but lets go with the full $10M
figure 8B OS
thats .0012 per share
figure 20 P/E
there is your "fundamental" .024 SP
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a little bit closer timeframe of $10M gross
same variables as above
.0024 SP
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...have fun
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
"exciting" news this morning...
...for TFN
but since BKMP has an interest in blackout comm...what do all these PRs have to do with BKMP?
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PS: suggested source of revs for BKMP...charge TFN for PR'ing all their material events
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo BKMP! ;)
[DOUBLE EDIT] re: "...The PR says the majority so that means over 50% of 2 billion..."
is that what it says?
or does it state that the majority of the amount they intend to buy will be in the next 2 weeks?
"...We hope that we can purchase a majority of the shares in the next few weeks..."
NO ONE knows how many that might be
could be 1 share, and they would still "live up" to their first buyback PR
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[EDIT]
TORONTO -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 12/19/2005 -- First Canadian American Holding Corporation (OTC: FCDH) today announced that its board of directors approved plans to buy back up to one billion of the company's stock over the next two years.
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=104393&tsource=3
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RU
re: "...hate to burst your bubble but if majority is "1 share" wouldnt we have a low O/S then?..."
their statement was that of the purchase that they "hope" will take place, the majority of THOSE shares may take place over the next few weeks
[please learn how to read a PR]
[EDIT] re: "...20% is right..."...really?
could you please indicate ANYWHERE it states that BKMP has a 20% interest in TFN
why do you persist in propagating erroneous information?
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re: "...Blackout Media Corp is pleased to inform its shareholders that in accordance to the action by the Board of Directors announced in December of 2005 that it has commenced the purchase of shares in the open market..."
why, pray tell, would a company stand on a soapbox to announce "it has commenced the purchase of shares in the open market"???
what impact might such info have on SP?
might it not cause "irrational exhuberance" on the part of naive "investors"?
did BKMP make this annouuncement so they might have to pay more for their shares?
..good plan
and since the original announcement stated up to 1B, might they not only purchase 100M for eg?
and how does that work again??...dilute in the billions and do a so-called "buyback" of perhaps 1/10 that amount?
...another "good" plan
and why would this PR state "our involvement with Blackout Communications and The Fight Network continues to strengthen and move forward"
why did they go out of their way to differentiate between the two if the 20% interest were of TFN?
one thing this PR did for sure...it gave the "longs" spin for weeks
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
[EDIT] domer, epox
"...Blackout Media owns 20% of Blackout Communications...",
etc
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10849025
[edit] re: "...Sandy.. share something with us!!!!!!!..."
"... Hey Sandy....throw us a bone!!!!..."
huh?
ya mean like the "clarification of ownership" PR of jan 17?
"...Blackout Media owns 20% of Blackout Communications..."
..yet individuals still insist that BKMP owns 20% of TFN"
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or like the "capital structure" PR of jan 6?
"...The company has exactly the same capital structure under the new name as it did under the old name..."
...yet as we all came to realize the "capital structure" they must have been referring to was the AS not the OS, because the OS had indeed increased substantially
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or like the "trajectory sports" PR of jan 20?
"...Fight Network's management team have selected New York-based Trajectory Sports & Media Group LLC to assist..."
...indicating trajectory's "involvement" with TFN, not BKMP...yet individuals continue to state how trajectory adds "credibility/legitimacy" to BKMP
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it appears that regardless what "bone" winick throws SH's, individuals either insist them to mean something other than what is stated...or the so-called "info" that is in some of the PR's is far from accurate [misleading?]
so what real value has there been [or will there be] to winick "sharing something with us"?
THAT is why 8Ks are crucial to credibility...and what has been lacking since day one of the "transition"
and for individuals to now state that the lack of new info is due to non-disclosure agreements seems absurd given that there has NEVER been full disclosure
will there EVER be a US deal?
perhaps...and that may finally give many the opportunity to bail from this "nightmare"...but imo, after the dust settles, and the truth of the level of BKMPs participation [lack of] is discovered, it will be short lived
well, anyway...thank God for the updates from those "in the know"
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
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[edit]
is this accurate?
0.0003 495000 OTO 10:29:08
0.0003 5000 OTO 10:28:03
0.0003 1000000 OTO 10:09:34
0.0002 100 OTO 10:03:11
0.0002 9999999 OTO 10:03:11
0.0002 9999999 OTO 10:03:11
0.0002 9999904 OTO 10:03:11
0.0002 9999999 OTO 10:03:11
0.0002 9999999 OTO 10:03:11
0.0003 3300000 OTO 09:55:00
divi info...
ex-dividend
A security which no longer carries the right to the most recently declared dividend; or the period of time between the announcement of the dividend and the payment. A security becomes ex-dividend on the ex-dividend date (set by the NASD), which is usually two business days before the record date (set by the company issuing the dividend). For transactions during the ex-dividend period, the seller, not the buyer, will receive the dividend. Ex-dividend is usually indicated in newspapers with an x next to the stock or mutual fund's name. In general, a stock’s price drops the day the ex-dividend period starts, since the buyer will not receive the benefit of the dividend payout till the next dividend date. As the stock gets closer to the next dividend date, the price may gradually rise in anticipation of the dividend.
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ex-dividend date
The first day of the ex-dividend period. The ex-dividend date was created to allow all pending transactions to be completed before the record date. If an investor does not own the stock before the ex-dividend date, he or she will be ineligible for the dividend payout. Further, for all pending transactions that have not been completed by the ex-dividend date, the exchanges automatically reduce the price of the stock by the amount of the dividend. This is done because a dividend payout automatically reduces the value of the company (it comes from the company's cash reserves), and the investor would have to absorb that reduction in value (because neither the buyer nor the seller are eligible for the dividend). also called reinvestment date.
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ex-date
Definition 1
For stock splits, the date that the share price changes to reflect the split.
Definition 2
For dividends, the first day of the ex-dividend period. The ex-date was created to allow all pending transactions to be completed before the record date. If an investor does not own the stock before the ex-date, he or she will be ineligible for the dividend payout. Further, for all pending transactions that have not been completed by the ex-date, the exchanges automatically reduce the price of the stock by the amount of the dividend. This is done because a dividend payout automatically reduces the value of the company (it comes from the company's cash reserves), and the investor would have to absorb that reduction in value (because neither the buyer nor the seller are eligible for the dividend). also called ex-dividend date.
http://www.investorwords.com/cgi-bin/letter.cgi?E
TruthfullyTina, get in line, lol...
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BKMP&read=16138
[dbl edit] as per TA today...
3,939,517,000 freetrading
Securities Transfer Corp
469-633-0101
469-633-0088 [fax]
http://www.stctransfer.com/
one can fax them to get comprehensive breakdown of float/restricted
the guy i spoke to [andy?] sounded a bit "confused", even though i repeated myself a few times when asking if the above number was simply the OS [including restricted], or float
he stated it was the float, plus additional restricted shares
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AS remains at 5B plus 10M preferred
[conversion rate in old filing below....200 for 1...dont know if its the same now][another potential 2B?]
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Name Type City Status
SURE TRACE SECURITY CORPORATION Corporation Philadelphia Active
Business Name: SURE TRACE SECURITY CORPORATION
Entity Number: 840424-0142
Registration Date: 07/22/1983
State of Origin: UT
Address
1615 WALNUT ST, 3RD FL
Philadelphia, PA 19103
Status
Status: Active
Status Description: Good Standing
This Status Date: 01/30/2006
Last Renewed: 07/28/2004
License Type: Corporation - Domestic - Profit
Delinquent Date: 07/22/2007
Registered Agent
Registered Agent: NATIONAL REGISTERED AGENTS, INC.
Address Line 1: 215 S STATE ST, STE 960
Address Line 2:
City: Salt Lake City
State: UT
Zip: 84111
Additional Information
Additional Principals: YES
NAICS Code: 5239
NAICS Title: 5239-Other Financial Investment Activiti
Stock Class 1 Amount: 5,000,000,000
Stock Class 1 Type: COMMON
Stock Class 2 Amount: 10,000,000
Stock Class 2 Type: PREFERRED
https://secure.utah.gov/bes/action/searchresults
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btw, in old filings i note that cornell was involved...anyone know if they still are?
http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/736314/000104476404000058/final.htm
re: "...lol it's not happening..."
huh?
0.0003 500000 OTO 15:27:05
0.0003 100000 OTO 15:23:48
0.0002 9000000 OTO 15:22:10
0.0002 1600000 OTO 15:22:10
0.0002 9000000 OTO 15:22:10
0.0002 606775 OTO 14:58:05
0.0003 1300000 OTO 14:35:17
0.0002 9000000 OTO 14:31:15
0.0002 9000000 OTO 14:31:15
0.0002 9000000 OTO 14:31:14
0.0002 4000000 OTO 14:31:14
0.0002 9000000 OTO 14:31:14
0.0002 1000000 OTO 14:10:47
0.0002 3500000 OTO 14:09:55
0.0003 500000 OTO 14:02:51
0.0003 200000 OTO 13:58:49
0.0003 300000 OTO 13:51:49
0.0002 1666666 OTO 13:48:57
0.0003 300000 OTO 13:48:08
0.0003 1000000 OTO 13:39:27
0.0003 525000 OTO 13:34:50
0.0003 400000 OTO 13:31:51
0.0003 1250000 OTO 13:31:42
0.0002 500000 OTO 13:29:14
0.0003 1660000 OTO 13:17:19
0.0003 993000 OTO 13:15:20
0.0003 9000000 OTO 13:13:33
0.0003 9500000 OTO 13:13:30
0.0003 7000000 OTO 12:40:33
0.0002 3000000 OTO 12:38:06
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10620427
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BKMP&read=16114
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10612119
re: "...All buys this AM..."
what a difference an hr makes, huh?
but who cares tick-to-tick, or hour-to-hour, or even day-to-day...right?
but for some strange reason this "gem" is still "analyzed" in this manner...
what Q is it now that longs expect the "big bang"?
i believe it was Q1...then Q2...now ive read dont expect much till '07?
...but lets do the tick-to-tick game for another year...and start spamming "...MSEP starting to move"......"MSEP getting jiggy...", etc, everytime it ticks up
0.0036 274411 OBB 12:50:44
0.0037 5000 OBB 12:22:55
0.0037 10000 OBB 12:21:19
0.0037 30000 OBB 12:20:09
0.0038 250000 OBB 11:45:18
0.0037 275000 OBB 11:45:18
0.0037 285000 OBB 10:53:34
0.0038 150400 OBB 10:50:53
0.0037 250000 OBB 10:48:47
0.0039 100000 OBB 10:42:48
0.0039 5000 OBB 10:42:18
0.0042 5000 OBB 10:38:51
0.0042 80000 OBB 10:35:44
0.004 50000 OBB 10:35:44
0.0041 50000 OBB 10:35:42
0.0042 35000 OBB 10:34:45
0.004 60000 OBB 10:29:19
0.0042 1000 OBB 10:14:14
0.0042 5000 OBB 09:56:16
0.0042 900000 OBB 09:50:43
0.0042 90000 OBB 09:40:38
0.0042 10000 OBB 09:38:14
0.0042 5000 OBB 09:36:35
well....looks like a "trend" anyway
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MSEP!!! ;)
is this a good [basket of] stock[s]?...
and how are my "favorite" group of arm chair CEO's?
i see dead_end_DD is still doing his thaaang
[gag & puke]
talk about beating a dead horse
[edit] OT: pennybuster, re: PM
i guess you didnt read the bottom of this post
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10779229
"...btw: i didnt mean to single out pennybuster...and actually from what ive seen, his "type" of spamming isnt offensive in its content, as it appears he doesnt try to promote mis-information, but rather is only being 'enthusiastic'..."
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i cant PM [as i have been stripped of every privilege other than 3 posts a day], or else i would have
and sincere apologies for using you as an "example", honestly didnt mean to single you out, was only trying to make a point given admin actions with me
again my apologies
sincere best of luck to you
re: "...are 'premium' members/friends precluded from TOS enforcement..."
what else could one conclude given admin non-action in this example of ongoing, blatant TOS violations [as well as many, many, many other alias examples]...while others are "collared" simply because they ask for supporting documentation of statements-made-as-fact, or offer factual info that could have a negative impact at the then trading SP?
[meaning that a better entry price may be "inevitable"]
while its understood that "...iHub reserves the right to remove or restore posts at its discretion..."
perhaps a further disclaimer should be added such as
"...particularly of those that expect honesty and fair play..."
and/or
"...even if no TOS are violated, but simply because we think you are a pain in the ass for expecting any level of integrity from others..."
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btw: i didnt mean to single out pennybuster...and actually from what ive seen, his "type" of spamming isnt offensive in its content, as it appears he doesnt try to promote mis-information, but rather is only being "enthusiastic"
would it be considered "double spamming"?
...if an individual blatantly promotes his own website, on his board [as well as in posts]
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=1544
...and is a chronic spammer with individual stocks...on an ongoing daily basis, eg:
OBBCQ Watch For More News On The Way!! HUNCHTRADES
4/21/2006 11:05:03 PM
OBBCQ Watch For More News On The Way!! penny stock talk. (penny)
4/21/2006 11:04:36 PM
OBBCQ Watch For More News On The Way!! CASH COW
4/21/2006 11:04:20 PM
OBBCQ Watch For More News On The Way!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 11:01:55 PM
DVPC .052 OIL DD INSIDE!!!!!!!!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 3:19:14 PM
DVPC .052 OIL DD INSIDE!!!!!!!!! HUNCHTRADES
4/21/2006 3:17:57 PM
DVPC .052 OIL DD INSIDE!!!!!!!!! EZtradin Picks
4/21/2006 3:17:47 PM
DVPC .052 OIL DD INSIDE!!!!!!!!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 3:17:37 PM
DVPC .052 OIL DD INSIDE!!!!!!!!! Rigs' " Platinum Penny Picks"
4/21/2006 3:17:27 PM
DVPC .052 OIL DD INSIDE!!!!!!!!! CASH COW
4/21/2006 3:17:19 PM
FMGL ABOUT TO BUST OPEN!!!!!!!!! Big Boyz Traders Station (BIGBOYZ)
4/21/2006 2:40:25 PM
FMGL ABOUT TO BUST OPEN!!!!!!!!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 2:40:16 PM
FMGL ABOUT TO BUST OPEN!!!!!!!!! CASH COW
4/21/2006 2:40:07 PM
FMGL ABOUT TO BUST OPEN!!!!!!!!! OTCBB ALERTS
4/21/2006 2:40:00 PM
FMGL .004 I Called The FMGL Number and EZtradin Picks
4/21/2006 2:28:19 PM
FMGL .004 I Called The FMGL Number and Rigs' " Platinum Penny Picks"
4/21/2006 2:28:02 PM
FMGL .004 I Called The FMGL Number and BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 2:27:38 PM
FMGL .004 I Called The FMGL Number and CASH COW
4/21/2006 2:27:22 PM
OBBCQ LOOK FOR BREAK OF .0007 Rigs' " Platinum Penny Picks"
4/21/2006 11:59:49 AM
OBBCQ LOOK FOR BREAK OF .0007 CASH COW
4/21/2006 11:55:26 AM
OBBCQ LOOK FOR BREAK OF .0007 BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 11:55:17 AM
OBBCQ LOOK FOR BREAK OF .0007 OTCBB ALERTS
4/21/2006 11:55:11 AM
OBBCQ .0004x.0005 READY TO BUST A MOVE!!!! EZtradin Picks
4/21/2006 11:47:12 AM
OBBCQ .0004x.0005 READY TO BUST A MOVE!!!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 11:47:02 AM
OBBCQ .0004x.0005 READY TO BUST A MOVE!!!! OTCBB ALERTS
4/21/2006 11:46:53 AM
OBBCQ .0004x.0005 READY TO BUST A MOVE!!!! CASH COW
4/21/2006 11:46:40 AM
TFTG DIP SQUEEZE COMING!!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 10:46:04 AM
TFTG DIP SQUEEZE COMING!!! CASH COW
4/21/2006 10:45:37 AM
TFTG THE SQUEEZE IS ON!!!!!!!! HUNCHTRADES
4/21/2006 10:40:52 AM
TFTG THE SQUEEZE IS ON!!!!!!!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 10:40:33 AM
TFTG THE SQUEEZE IS ON!!!!!!!! BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 10:40:20 AM
TFTG THE SQUEEZE IS ON!!!!!!!! OTCBB ALERTS
4/21/2006 10:40:09 AM
TFTG THE SQUEEZE IS ON!!!!!!!! CASH COW
4/21/2006 10:39:58 AM
Alert!!!! FPXA .008 Momentum Players
4/21/2006 9:25:47 AM
Alert!!!! FPXA .008 CASH COW
4/21/2006 9:25:29 AM
Alert!!!! FPXA .008 OTCBB ALERTS
4/21/2006 9:25:19 AM
Alert!!!! FPXA .008 BB's Penny Haven
4/21/2006 9:24:53 AM
...and on and on and on and on
...or are "premium" members/friends precluded from TOU enforcement?
[as appears here given the looooong history of spammng]
PS: hows that "verification of my account" going?...never mind that ive been here since year 2000
re: "...New revenue stream just appeared on TFN website..."
AWESOME NEWS!!
lets see...perhaps a couple a grand a month...
divided by an estimated 8B OS [last known OS 3.8B, as of 12/31/05]...
.000003 per share gross rev per year
WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY!!
[to where, i dont know]
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP!! ;)
re: "...at least stay focused on real facts..."
please provide support/documentation for your supposed stated "facts" [as you continue to demand of others]:
-- "...The holder of the $2,200,000.00 interest note, has apparently converted it all into BKMP shares..."
-- "...if Blackout Communications sells any or all portions of TFN....BKMP reaps minimum 20% & maximum 47.6%..."
-- "...CD holder must SIT on his restricted shares until Fall 2007..."
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as to your statements:
"...We for the most part since the middle of February, knew there was going to be a long stretch of silence..."
really?
so what were the 8 PR's since end of feb?
"...Sandy Pr'd the buy back for investor confidence during these times..."
really?
did all the new shares since that PR build "investor confidence"
"...Sandy is one of a very small group of CEOs that report revenues to the SEC..."
really?
are you referring to the so-called "financial reports"?
...those are not SEC filings
[did you happen to notice on the top of the 15c211?..."...this statement has not been filed with the NASD or any other regulatory agency..."
"...Silence brought about a nice low pps for conversion and taking advantage of this setting was and IS the buy back..."
really?
even though there was no silence...arent you suggesting manipulation?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
mimurray, i'm confused...
i believe you are/were a HUGE proponent of "bid-sitters" being a major cause of SP stagnation/decline
and also stated that, regardless, SP wouldnt hit .0002
but obviously .0002 has indeed become an intraday reality
now IF the ask sees .0002, are you suggesting that individuals shouldnt even bother to offer the ask because "...They won't get them because of that immediate pressure. They would move it away so fast you would miss it if you blink..."?
but what happened @ .0003 and .0004 that so many stated SP would never reach?
and how do you think those individuals are faring that were advised to hit the ask at those levels?
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PS: peng
re: "...we know that this thing can only go up from here..."
do you think many shared that sentiment just before the 1 for 10,000 RS?
we have all hopefully learned that even .0001's are not a true bottom with these "gems"
and as to "no RS"?
i have already given several specific examples were companies in CCs, PRs, etc stated "no RS"...only to RS...many times in spectacular fashion
and again, this "gem" stated "no reverse splitS"...as in plural...so given their documented penchant for interpretations of statements [eg: capital structure not changing, etc],...there is room for "error"
...please standby
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
re: "...Let's list the good things that you would not PR..."
1) Buyback of shares - Need to keep price low to execute this effectively.
really?
then why did they PR a buyback?
could it have been to bolster SP as new shares were being flooded onto the street?
2) The change in ownership structure to give BKMP more ownership of TFN - This has legal implications and no companies discuss merger/acquisition activities until all paperwork/contracts/legalities are formalized.
first of all BKMP DOES NOT have any ownership of TFN...it is reportedly of blackout comm
secondly, didnt they also PR their intention of increasing said ownership?
could it have been to bolster SP as new shares were being flooded onto the street?
3) Same applies for USA carrier agreements, it's a negotiation of a legal contract. The parties will never discuss deal details before it's done, approved, and signed.
really?
then what are announcements that just about everyone of these "gems" announces of LOIs and the like?
and hasnt the company PRd this intention many times?
could it have been to bolster SP as new shares were being flooded onto the street?
4) Moving up to a new exchange - This is pertinent here but there's mandatory 2 weeks or so of corporate silence before such an event can occur.
really?
can you provide a link to substantiate this "mandatory 2 weeks or so of corporate silence"?
and even so, without a RM [and most probably another HUGE RS], they have years of filings to become current before that could even be considered
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
Ranks of US millionaires worth over $5 million swell
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The number of U.S. households boasting a net worth of at least $5 million swelled to an all-time high in 2005, according a report released Wednesday by consulting firm Spectrem Group.
The report, "Affluent Market Insights 2006," is based on data gathered through mail and surveys of 1,014 respondents from September 2005 to November 2005.
Spectrem, which specializes in the affluent and retirement markets, said a record 8.3 million U.S. households are worth at least $1 million, excluding the value of a primary residence.
This is the second-consecutive year of record growth in the category, topping the 2004 mark of 7.5 million households.
[almost 1M new millionaires in past year]
The Ultra High Net Worth category, which is comprised of households worth at least $5 million, not including the value of a main residence, surged 26 percent in 2005 to 930,000.
"Clearly the stock market, which posted solid improvement in 2005 was one reason for the advance. However, for the wealthiest Americans, it appears the increased use of international markets and alternative investments were the key drivers of their improvement," Spectrem Group managing director Catherine S. McBreen, said in a statement.
Chicago-based Spectrem found that households worth at least $500,000 placed 45 percent of their funds in investable assets, including stocks and bonds, managed accounts, IRAs, mutual funds, deposits and alternative investments.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060419/us_nm/financial_spectremgroup_dc
note: rumor is that quite a few new millionaires were created right here at BB's ;)
re: "... If you can't find the answer to your questions still, then maybe it is not factually known yet..."
...and there-in lies the problem
many here post their specOlation and opinion as if it is fact...and when asked to provide references/documentation to support their statements?...it suddenly gets real quiet...or a PR is offered as "fact"
now besides a PR being a statement that needs verification from other sources before claiming it to be "fact", those same PR's still dont state what some claim
[eg: ownership of TFN and TWN, who it is trajectory is really working for, etc]
the reason why you see some individuals still asking what may appear to be "redundant" questions is because the answers seem to keep changing to fit the current scenario
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
oh yeah:
Blackout Media Corp. (BKMP) 30 Million Shares of free-trading BKMP paid by a third party
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9355081
PS: for all the ethanol johnny-come-latelys:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9652651
...always stay ahead of the curve
at what point does a posters/moderators actions
[such as "RULiquid"] "cross the line"?
...would it be after they continually delete posts without cause? [such as #58035 on BKMP this morning]
[EDIT-restored 10 min after this was posted, lol]
...would it be after they stalk you from board to board [which they normally wouldnt post] just to take jabs at another?
...would it be after PM after PM attempting to taunt one into engaging them on the boards?
...would it be after they "steal" the signature one has been using for years...and apparently for no other reason than to continue their "campaign"?
...would it be after dozens of posts [that contain no other content] other than mocking, insulting, and libeling another?
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or is at simple as just what admin "feels" like doing on a particular day, or to a particular individual...as admin did with me?
well, anyway, thanks for the fair and balanced forum in which to discuss/debate relevant issues
re: "...You need to tone down your enthueism a bit and run something like this past us before posting on Fox Sports or similar..."
really?
why the paranoia from winick?
could it be that the fox site is "mainstream" MMA and could draw the ire of legitimate players that read the unsubstantiated hear-say that is propagated on stock message boards?
[the "14M households" is a perfect example]
and statements on that blog such as...
"...Blackout Media who is partial owner of the worlds first 24/7 all combatant sports network The Fight Network..."
...could require some 'splaining lucy, as there is no documentation anywhere that this is a true/valid statement
and there is another potential caveat...numbskulls like myself could begin stirring the pot...after smoking some of course ;)
...hmmm, not a bad idea
kilerb, you appear to be confused...
re: "...Just a symbol that owns nothing?..."
no, just not TFN ot TWN
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re: "...reaching for ridiculous claims..."
actually i have stated such at least since their "clarification" PR
and they are not "claims", it is info from the referenced sources i gave
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re: "...I think you'd better stick to the dilution argument..."
i never "argued" or stated there was dilution
what i was debatting was the promotion by many of inaccurate numbers
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re: "...This is why you think BKMP won't move?..."
i never said it wouldnt, and as a matter of fact i have stated just the opposite many times
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
PS: it appears you [like so many others] confuse attempts at verifying material facts [DD], and lambasting those that promote misinformation, as "bashing"
nice banner ad for TFN...
...now if it only had something to do with BKMP it would be real impressive
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BKMP&read=16099
GOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
analyzethis, i'm confused...
earlier today you posted:
"...Sandy works for free. He has told me many times. My gosh he has 1.6 bil shares restricted..."
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10671177
to which i replied:
"...the last filing indicates winick owns 132M shares
dont form 4's include ALL stock owned by an individual?
can you please provide a link that documents his owning 1.6B restricted shares?..."
[although the 15c211 of aug '05 does state such]
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10671434
and now?:
"...I think I just figured something out. That 2.3 bil share day we had could have been Sandy's 1.6 bil restricted becoming unrestricted..."
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10674710
huh?
...nice "figuring"
[although i doubt if he did sell them that it would have been in one day]
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i think i may have just "figured something out" as well
i just realized that most [if not all] the hardcore "longs" are ones that have/had ongoing personal contact with winick
and given that many [if not all] of the "within 45 days", "knock your socks off" and "OS hasnt changed" type of "inside info" posts by many have failed to deliver...winick may be using some individuals as conduits for info he wants disseminated...for reasons he may only know
want another example?
take a look at what happened with ekwan-x when someone felt they had the CEO's ear
happens all the time
EDIT--analyzethis, the last filing
indicates winick owns 132M shares
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename%3D0001332277%252D05....
dont form 4's include ALL stock owned by an individual?
can you please provide a link that documents his owning 1.6B restricted shares?
EDIT: thanks rasica for the link to the 15c211, i was aware of that filing, but i am curious as to why, if he still holds those shares, it is not listed in the form 4?
my bad, apologies
re: "...This will be my only post to you on these questions..."
granted its a "post", but its not an "answer" as it doesnt even address ANY of the material in question
and of course its your right not to even answer, but please dont pass this post off as a valid response
and no, i wont ask again, as your non-answer speaks for itself
[as does your "...this will be my only post..."]
however, it may be inappropriate for you to continue to demand that others support their statements as "fact" if you dont reciprocate
and given such, would it be then fair to deduce that your posts are either opinion, hear-say, rumor or simply repeating whats been read or heard without verification of material "facts"?
Rasica...still waiting
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10655717
EDIT--RASICA--re: "...Lets talk FACTS..."
thats what i have been trying to do...but it appears its you thats having a problem sticking to facts
please provide links/references that support/verify/confirm your statements as fact
since you are such an adamant proponent of posting/debating based on facts, i am confident you understand the query and have such documentation
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your statements:
re: "...Russian brothers who are building oil Rigs for NW USA and drilling the oil fields of the Russian property we own..."
re: "...Today there was trading action when we hit our low (on bkmp) to allow MMs the opportunity to buy low an AMSN (divy) to correspond to the 6:1 obligation of December 2005..."
http://www.amerossigroup.com/
AmerossiGroup.com has been Shut down
already over 1.5B OS as of 12/31/05
$1.8M CD
https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/650880/650880_FR9.pdf
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and while you are at it, you still havent responded to this:
"...CD Holder just Converted $2.2 Million Dollars into BKMP Stock..."
"...CD holder cannot sell any of the converted shares until the fall of 2007..."
"...The conversion also has no affect upon the current O/S or PPS until the Fall of 2007..."
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10612249
http://www.blackoutmedia.com/
coming soon[??]
TIA
PS: might be advisable to also consider these "discrepancies":
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10620427
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
EDIT--rasica not going to waste another post responding to the so-called response you just posted
you never did answer the AMSN questions, and there are many BKMP related items in this post
STOP EVADING THE ISSUES...or stop demanding that others post "proof" of their statements...as you yourself dont
Rasica...i'm confused...
re: "...everything I posted so far is supported by PRs..."
huh?
i was under the impression that DD was all about verifying/confirming a companys statements/PR's...not repeating/propagating them
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due diligence: [Definition]
The process of investigation, performed by investors, into the details of a potential investment, such as an examination of operations and management and the verification of material facts.
http://www.investorwords.com/1596/due_diligence.html
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as to your claim that the info you posted is "supported" by PR's...i posted filings, websites, etc...i cant seem to find anything that supports your statements regarding AMSN...or for that matter many of your statements/claims about BKMP...thats why i asked for you to please post your references
this request is "in line", as you yourself continually demand others for the same
i look forward to your comprehensive reply addressing ALL the previously mentioned topics
rasica, please provide links/references that support/verify/confirm your statements as fact
since you are such an adamant proponent of posting/debating based on facts, i am confident you understand the query and have such documentation
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your statements:
re: "...Russian brothers who are building oil Rigs for NW USA and drilling the oil fields of the Russian property we own..."
re: "...Today there was trading action when we hit our low (on bkmp) to allow MMs the opportunity to buy low an AMSN (divy) to correspond to the 6:1 obligation of December 2005..."
http://www.amerossigroup.com/
AmerossiGroup.com has been Shut down
already over 1.5B OS as of 12/31/05
$1.8M CD
https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/650880/650880_FR9.pdf
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and while you are at it, you still havent responded to this:
Posted by: maninfla
In reply to: Rasica who wrote msg# 56819 Date:4/10/2006 2:49:56 PM
Post #of 57057
re: "...A person who sticks to facts is neither a pumper or basher..."
please provide links/documentation to support these "facts" which you just posted:
"...CD Holder just Converted $2.2 Million Dollars into BKMP Stock..."
"...CD holder cannot sell any of the converted shares until the fall of 2007..."
"...The conversion also has no affect upon the current O/S or PPS until the Fall of 2007..."
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10612249
http://www.blackoutmedia.com/
coming soon[??]
TIA
PS: might be advisable to also consider these "discrepancies":
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10620427
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
re: "...Does anyone think a Park Ave firm with a client list like Trajectory has would waste one second of their time on this if there wasn't something there???..."
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but who is trajectory representing?
according to BKMP's own PR of jan 20:
"...BKMP announced today that Fight Network's management team have selected New York-based Trajectory Sports & Media Group LLC to assist in the furthering of the US and international distribution for The Fight Network's digital television service..."
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060120/0106927.html
it appears this has NOTHING to do directly with BKMP
BKMP is simply making an announcement for TFN and trajectory
why do people keep using trajectory as adding legitimacy to BKMP?????
looks to me this has NOTHING directly to do with them
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and cant the same be said of the "ownership clarification" PR?
"...Blackout Media owns 20% of Blackout Communications, a private Canadian company who in turn owns The Fight Network, also a private Canadian company..."
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060117/0106464.html
why do people keep stating BKMP owns an interest in TFN when in reality its of blackout comm?
[without 8K's we may never know the role blackout comm plays as "intermediary"]
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and doesnt the same apply with TWN?
"...BKMP announced today that it has completed its purchase of a 20% stake in another new specialty digital network called The Wagering Network [TWN], through Blackout Communications Inc..."
again blackout comm as "intermediary"
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and what about the "capital structure clarification" PR?
"...There have been several questions about the capital structure of Blackout versus the capital structure of First Canadian American Holding Corporation. To clarify this to all the shareholders and investment community, the capital structure has not changed at all, there has only been a change of name. The company has exactly the same capital structure under the new name as it did under the old name. In addition, the company is not planning to do any reverse stock splits..."
didnt everyone believe this applied to OS when in reality [and as i mentioned at the time] it was about the AS?
[as later confirmed in the companys own filings by their noting the increase of OS]
even the RS comment leaves room for interpretation, [applying what appears to be there own parameters of defining things], as it states "not planning to do any reverse stock splits"...as in plural...so if they were planning one RS, it still is a "valid" statement
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lots of questions still remain here
re: "...A person who sticks to facts is neither a pumper or basher..."
please provide links/documentation to support these "facts" which you just posted:
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"...CD Holder just Converted $2.2 Million Dollars into BKMP Stock..."
"...CD holder cannot sell any of the converted shares until the fall of 2007..."
"...The conversion also has no affect upon the current O/S or PPS until the Fall of 2007..."
aint it somethin' how most "forget"
when a few months ago [and when SP was 5X current levels] i was the lone voice of "reason"
NOT ONE other individual was expressing caution, and most all joined the personal bashfest
i want a medal please :)
GOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP ;)
PS: not to mention that the above is true for virtually all other stocks which i have posted
OT: SACRILEGE!...
bob marley [now residing with Jah], would have choked on his last toke if he saw that post
the ultimate betrayal...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change&pl=true
OT: does this sound familiar?
SEC Files Emergency Action to Stop Ongoing Microcap Stock Fraud
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2006-50
Washington, D.C., April 6, 2006 - The Securities and Exchange Commission today filed an emergency enforcement action in federal court charging two New York men, Faisal Zafar and Sameer Thawani, with perpetrating an ongoing securities fraud over the Internet. The complaint alleges that since late 2004 and as recently as March 2006, Zafar and Thawani have engaged in a "pump and dump" scheme to manipulate the market for at least 24 thinly traded "microcap" or "smallcap" stocks. The defendants made over $873,000 by purchasing the stocks, anonymously disseminating false information about the companies on popular Internet message boards, and then selling the stocks at artificially inflated prices.
To deceive investors into buying these stocks, the defendants have preyed on public fears about terrorism and international health epidemics, among other topics. For example, after the London subway bombings and reports concerning a deadly "bird flu" virus, Zafar posted messages falsely stating that one issuer was receiving a contract from the Department of Homeland Security to improve security on New York City subways, and that another issuer was acquiring a company that produces "bird flu" vaccine.
Acting on the Commission's application for emergency relief, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York issued a temporary restraining order that, among other things, froze the defendants' assets and set a date for a hearing on the Commission's motion for entry of a preliminary injunction against further violations and other relief while the action is pending.
Mark K. Schonfeld, Director of the Commission's Northeast Regional Office, said, "Today's action underscores the Commission's continued vigilance against all forms of fraud involving the microcap market. Investors who participate in this segment of our capital markets are entitled to know that the securities laws will be vigorously enforced against all violators."
David Rosenfeld, Associate Regional Director of the Northeast Regional Office, added, "The defendants preyed on innocent investors by using the relative anonymity of the Internet to manipulate the market. We have acted today to stop a brazen fraud and hold the perpetrators responsible for the harm they caused investors."
The Commission's complaint further alleges as follows:
After buying shares at prevailing market prices, Zafar and Thawani used online aliases to post messages touting the stock and containing phony press release excerpts or other fake "news" about the issuer to deceive investors. In addition to capitalizing on actual events in the news, the phony headlines concocted by the defendants have also included false claims of huge business contracts, mergers and strategic alliances between these little-known issuers and an array of major corporations -- such as Google, Kmart and Sun Microsystems -- and other dramatic developments designed to make the targeted stocks appear to be surefire investment opportunities.
Zafar and Thawani are engaged in a classic Internet "pump and dump" manipulation scheme whose basic structure is as follows: (1) one or both of the defendants purchase shares of the issuer's stock in their online brokerage accounts; (2) the defendants register multiple online identities ("User IDs") with Internet message board services; (3) the defendants post multiple messages attributed to their User IDs on Internet message boards devoted either to the touted stock or to other, more widely followed stocks; (4) the messages contain materially false statements about the issuer and urge other investors to buy the stock; and (5) as soon as the stock price increases due to purchases spurred by the false statements, the defendants sell their shares at the inflated price for a quick profit. After their sales, the price of the stock quickly returns to its pre-manipulation level. These events sometimes all occur within the span of a single day.
The defendants have created at least 300 different User IDs and have used them to post well over one thousand messages fraudulently touting the stock of at least 24 small-cap issuers, some of them on multiple occasions. The defendants created these multiple online aliases in order to conceal their identities from investors and make it appear as if the same breaking "news" is coming from multiple independent sources. More recently, the defendants have also targeted specific investors by posing as moderators of Internet user groups devoted to low-priced stocks and sending emails to the group members while simultaneously posting false messages on different Internet message boards about the same stock under different user names. These emails purport to alert investors to imminent news about the stock and urge them to capitalize by buying the stock before the "news" is made public.
The complaint charges Zafar and Thawani with violations of the antifraud provisions of the federal securities laws. In addition to permanent and preliminary injunctive relief, the complaint seeks disgorgement of all illegal profits and the imposition of civil monetary penalties.
The Commission acknowledges the cooperation of the United States Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in this matter.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2006/2006-50.htm
specific info
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2006/comp19642.pdf
problem is viking...
that everyone has heard it all before...from the top....all the way down to 52 week lows
so when a "turnaround" finally [IF] happens...what?...those individuals are brilliant?
if the call came off the top [or even anywhere close to it], thats a different story
for all the claims by individuals that they are long, to follow this "gem" tick-by-tick...FOR MONTHS...is "curious"
and the so-called "long" target keeps on getting moved back and back and yet further back
...is it 2007 yet?
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MSEP!
senderos, re: PXIT
124M?
interesting
just spoke with TA, now 131M OS
added 7M from a couple of hours ago?
up from 95M a week or so ago
good ole tilton
AS 5B
inc in default as of 04/01/06
disclosure: open/closed position early march, flat
PS: btw, hows the hamby doing?