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Doberman, I know it is generally accepted that the ihub board discussions don't drastically affect the stock pps, but if the peeps are driven to other boards by bashers, and in srsr's case, much too much MOD censorship, then the exposure will be less on that stock, and more on the stock featured on the new board. After reading your discussions, I looked at the unread total of the srsr board on my favorites page. It is sitting on 2131 UNREAD. Just got fed up with the mods, and I even had one of them on iggy. Every day you had the "stay on topic" speech posted multiple times, even when it was not in any way warranted. They treat their posters, and viewers, like a bunch of unruly HS kids. I can do without that immaturity. They should restrict the offending posters' access, or discipline them some other way, instead of punishing all of us. And when the investor moves, it isn't long before the money moves. I had 1.3 million shares, a while ago, not now. All IMO. GLTA LC
Thanks. Amen. See my post about management(politics) changes needed. Basic change there should accomplish your wish, also.
The foxes have controlled the henhouse rules.
Maybe this fall's downturn will prompt some personel changes that will give us people in the federal offices that are more in tune with what the job titles indicate those people should be overlooking.
One giant step for traderkind... Now, if they would just require them to show all bids/asks as we enter them, that would be another positive step toward fairer trading platforms.
Same thing on ST. I was wondering if my streamer was broken, but a couple of others are showing activity. Really quiet, though.
The title sounds interesting. Might have to look into it some more, thanks.
You don't shake until later. Its so captivating, that while the animal is that close, you loose all sense of anything but the encounter, and trying not to interrupt it. But, if that was a shooter, he probably would have shook like a jack hammer. I never had one do the arrow touch, but I had a small 4 point buck actually sniffing me at about a foot from my foot. I was in a low tree stand, on a side slope in the woods, covering a trail around the marsh edge at the bottom of the hill. I could stand on the ground and lay my bow on the stand platform, so it was only about 7 feet off of the ground, on the downhill side. The small buck came in on the uphill side of the stand, and worked his way right up to it, looked me up and down for an eternity, and finally reached up to sniff the edge of the stand right by my foot. I didn't move, and he didn't bolt. He eased out of the area at the same pace he came in. I thought he would blow, and bolt, but I guess my stillness kept him from being alarmed. Nice memory for me, though. Thanks again for the post. LC
BBD, Please pardon me for asking about your siggy, but would you clarify something for me?
What is a Blind Bus?
Is it a bus with wood in the windshields and windows, instead of glass, or is it a bus specifically used to transport our less fortunate, sightless brethren?
TIA LC
WOW, unbelievable. How much of an adrenaline rush did THAT hunter experience when it was all over? I thought I had had some close encounters with whitetails, but I never had anything happen to compare with that, it actually touched the arrow. And then moved away alarmed, but not panicked. Thanks for posting it.
I hope they can pump it to .89/share.
Everything is going the other direction. Three out of twenty stocks on my streamer are NOT red, dow down over 330 points.
Buster123, 10-4 on the tendency to trust too much, I find myself in that category too many times, too. We might have to shelve this one for a few days before we get lucky enough to sell, but I'm willing to sell someone nearly 20m shares at a sacrifice price, say .50/share. GLTU LC
My LTDU shares are in my ST accts at the correct reduced numbers, and dollar amounts. Funny how they ended up on the ST listings right above my mona shares. GLTA LC
fotog1160 Yeah, unfortunately, you are most likely correct. Up until the r/s we had several possibilities on the table, even though they were remote possibilities, they weren't dead, just in information limbo, so those of us that chose to "could" have some hope. With the r/s those options are most likely truly dead. Hope has left the building. Will just keep this on the sideline, and see where it goes in a year, or so. As you pointed out, selling for nothing is not beneficial.
LTDU is now shown on my ST streamer, but my shares in my accounts are still listed under the LTDI symbol, and the original number of pre-split shares, but at zero dollars.
Good for both of you, and how true your comment is.
Plus, if you don't vote, you don't have any right to bitch about what the politician does once they get elected, and that is probably THE OLDEST American tradition.
RvR, I agree. The traditional Red and Blue are simplistic, but divisive groupings. One color for the majority in the mainstream, and one for each of the extremes (or combine them under one color, and let them fight it out amongst themselves) sounds nice, and more balanced. Discussion, and debating points should lead to consensus, but we have gotten so entrenched in believing that any divergent idea is a threat that must be annihilated, or we are somehow personally demeaned, that it has become a 'one side wins it all', or nothing gets done situation. I have been around long enough to see the changes taking place, generation to generation, and believe me, there is HOPE, lots of it. The open discussion points today were the unmentioned, but existing, points of fifty years ago. Just ignore the extremes, even if they are what sells the papers, and get featured on the evening news, and focus on all of the good things about this land of ours. May everyone have a pleasant voting experience.
And may our HCPC stock survive, and we prosper.
GLTA LC
Good for you. Did the 2;00pm to 5;20 deal myself last Fri. Feels really good. I highly recommend the experience, no matter which way you lean.
A note for those that are sensitive to criticism, we had many good discussions between those of us in line in the three hours, and not one party, or candidate was mentioned. Just concerned citizens discussing life while exercising the greatest liberty on earth. GLTA LC
Yes, aren't we all.
Not quite that bad, 1 million should be 1,000. Still sucks, and probably the same value.
Hokifan, Looks like your predictions were, unfortunately, more accurate than my optimistic view. A shame that you didn't get those feelings early enough for you to sell out at least near the break even point. Mine is in a Roth IRA acct, so I don't even get the tax write off if I do sell. Your calc is pretty close to my break even amount of .89, which seems like a total impossibility, but hey, in a couple of years, who knows, if I hold on with patience, maybe. Maybe he has the company sold for $1.00 a share.
Well, on the positive side, I have enjoyed some of the people posting on this site.
GLTU LC
Gail, to get a look at more of the playthings of LTDI type buyers, you might want to go to aerotoy.com, click on the showrooms tab, then the individual locations for the company. The planes are what they are selling, but notice the props they used in the picture of the planes shown in the Fort Lauderdale location. The cars are just a sideline, kept handy in case anyone needs an extra set of wheels when they land, for $200,000 and up, of course. They also have some little boats available too, I'm told. These are the people that consider 200K for a boat pocket change.
I found .37 in the couch, I'll mail it to you.
You might want to re-register then. I put mine in at about 1:30PM today, and received my confirmation at 2:36PM.
Thanks for the update.
According to my favorites counter its been 689 posts since I last went there, largely because of that issue; Big Brother IS Alive & Well on the SRSR board (or bored, take your pick). Told Mick & others that they were being too tight. No change. I don't really count, but when you add up all of the "I"s that appear to be thinking the same way, it probably makes quite a difference. Sad part is the effect on stock exposure. Maybe we need an SRSR-2 board, equipped with human monitoring. Oh well, maybe by the year 2045. GLTA, and thanks for the steam letting opportunity, I feel better now. LC
Not suggesting hcpc was going to do one. I agree, it would be a little hard to do at this time. Survival is the first order of business. I was just discussing the procedures, and plusses & minuses of the options.
I agree. R/S = screwed shareholders.
If a company does complete a substantial enough buyback, the R/S is not really needed anymore, unless the share structure is completely out of wack. The buyback reduces the share count, which will make the company more attractive, getting more investors involved, and the sp goes up naturally. We win. GLTA LC
Buster, did you mean to ask about a name change, or a name, cusip, and ticker symbol change? Could be a big difference.
And, it is up to how the company goes about executing the change that controls how we fare. They can protect the shareholders interests by exchanging shares one for one, and screw the shorts, or end up screwing everyone out of any value that they might have, now or in the future, by combining it with a reverse split. Remember the share count is the multiplier for your potential value if the stock does bounce back. I think I am correct in saying that if only the three items are change for records purposes, the shorts would have to cover, but we shareholders would end up with a like valued positon in the "new" company. Excluding a R/S, you would have just as many shares in the new, as in the old. In most cases a R/S means we are screwed.
Let the discussion begin. GLTY LC
The 2,989,998 yesterday, followed by 500,000 was surprising with no bid or ask showing on my streamer. Could be a market order I guess, was hoping for something more positive to be developing, but no news that I've seen. Still holding; shares & hope. GLTA LC
Thanks gail, but it baffles me how it could reappear on my ST streamer, which is reset several times during the course of a couple of days.
Now we show a last sale of .0001, ask at .0001, and 500,000 volume today. ?????? GLTA LC
Can someone explain to me why there is a volume listing on my ST streamer for LTDI. It shows no price, no bid, no ask, and volume of 2,989,998. If it has been there all of the time recently, please forgive my lack of obsevatory powers. TIA LC
Cash, I'll be glad to post an "It's moving" post on here for you. Happy to help, buddy. GLTY
No. But the cnn commentator last night (sat) said that the strenghtening dollar was going to drive all the commodities down considerably, which was good. Sunday night the commentator said the recent actions in London, and the rest of the financial hubs, to back interbank loans, would lower the value of the dollar, and raise the values of commodities, which was good. ????? Who do we believe, the guy on Sat night, or the same guy on Sunday night? I'm confused.
But probably shorted a whole lot more illegally. Consider that one of the major hopes of the NNS is to drive the sp down, and box it there, until the company goes out of existence, thus not having to cover anything. If some of that illegal nss was started when the sp was at .0002 or 3, then their profit from completely destroying the company becomes much greater.
Bring on the management, cusip, and name changes, and we live, IMHO. Carol can revisit her post in five or ten years, after the company has become well established, and profitable. GLTA LC
Tom, did you ever gamble at cards????
Well in this game someone just folded, and in tossing in his cards, they flipped over, showing an Ace, and we're sitting there with four aces.
Fold or bluff it out? Hope everyone else folds first? Your call.
Be here with you next year. GLTA LC
Go, good to see your posts again, I have always enjoyed your comments.
ON srsr; Did you get that stifled feeling on that board. I know you don't want to have bedlam on a board, especially when people are discussing the stock intelligently, but it could be absolutely dead, in the middle of the night, and you couldn't say anything not OT to someone who didn't have PM, without it being deleted. A discussion was out of the question. Everybody doesn't have PM, especially new traders. Way overboard on the mods part. I Don't even bother to go there anymore, it has no human element left. Which is what they want. But, I'll bet the farm on this, if you don't go to a stock's board, you soon lose interest in the stock, and stop trading it, or more likely use the money in one you are visiting. So the srsr mods, and ihub enforcers, are effectively hurting the stock by being so strict with the rule interpretations that they are driving members away from their own stock. I just looked, and there are 320 posts since I visited it last. It's no fun anymore. Old man's board now. GLTY LC
None taken, and yes it is a dangerous area, but no more so than FL, or many other cities, and states. When good people challenge bad people, many times someone gets hurt. If only it was always the bads. Several of the losses have been in the rural areas, where it was totally unexpected.
No, I dissagree, either of those "families" are worth the risks involved. Did 28 yrs of Vol FC, and wouldn't trade the experience for anything.