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and the report after that (june??) will incorporate the 1/2 revenue for the time period that bogo was active.
IMO Q3 may be the first actual 'clean' report providing the benchmark that others that follow will be pitted against.
at this juncture we can only look forward to the $$ numbers that hit the bottom line from the newly added resources we now have in the fold that grow daily...ty AI100!!
All great stuff, but until we flip our cards for the first time... will we know what BIG MONEY feels about our progress to date.
As an infant we have just opened our eyes for the first time and view a world that's intimidating yet exhilarating. Amazingly.. we are now supplying outlets with product for the second time in 3 weeks just 6mo after birth.
Where will we be when we can roll over and begin to crawl?.....$$
my appreciation Funman for resurrecting one of my posts while I am on sabbatical from Valens and the board. (be assured that I check in daily)
Blown away being referenced as the foundation for support of the PR that validates in part (for all that will truly understand) that there are limited, if not only a couple of companies in the world that are woefully capable of competing (lol) with Valens in this space. Attempting to compete with Valens command of the expertise required to take development of this industry to multiple levels of excellence beyond what we have already and incredibly achieved.
It's in Valens DNA to excel and in reality, excel beyond expectations...no worries. Only lofty milestones destined to be achieved lie ahead.
stay safe....stay well ya'll....hr12x
Jessica at the Brunswick Ohio convenience store called me back today. The TAAT delivery came in to the store on schedule and they are holding a carton of 'ORIGINAL' for me.
TAAT is reforming as expected and reorders are arriving to replenish the vendors supply. OH..almost forgot, when I asked how well this new product has been received, she said that one guy is coming back in for another carton and she has received calls from out of state.
Screw the shorts, SP controllers and BT....we are gonna' be BIG...
more 3-4-5 cent moves down on 100-200 shares. Who's foolin' who with this shyte!
agree schmelzy but I've got to say that the BLOCKBUSTER NEWS that we received last week (after a long stretch of silence)...lasted one whole friggin' whopping day on a big run. Down virtually every day since.
As I posted a few days ago I believe BT is being the shorting and the 'controllers' that fiddle with the SP daily, probably making a couple of cents per share and accumulating shares with every up/down cycle. They all want in on this before we 'bust out'....it's way too obvious.
Totally agree that we most likely need numbers that are well received by the street 'for a NEW ground up enterprise' with no history...starting from ZERO and bogo revenue thrown in at 1/2 price. What will be good or bad numbers void of metrics to gauge against for comparison?
Beats me...we will see!! ty schmelzy
stay safe..stay well !!
Imo a marketing campaign injecting accelerated awareness and enthusiasm to at least "try TAAT' begs to be puffed up substantially as the word is now out. The product is on the street, you tube and social media awareness is growing. and we sit on the doorstep of e-commerce capability. OMG!!
Not professing that we break the bank but only utilize strategic placement of a modicum of our advertising budget that will inflict the most damage in driving sales. Don't think for a minute that the world isn't watching and not interested (54 patents worldwide draws attention). Do we have anyone with the expertise to provide that level of impact at minimal expense?).
Probably already here and working diligently behind the scenes to accomplish exactly this scenario. But a focused effort directed at the remainder of Ohio and neighboring states at this juncture IMO would significantly put the upper mid west states (and the rest of the world...lol) on notice that we are ready and capable of 'climbing out of our crib' and begin to crawl.
E-commerce may just accomplish this objective for us in a big way. But there's just something about a big poster at the front door of ones favorite convenience store, gas station or Circle K (fingers crossed) showing a hot guy or babe with a TAAT in their hand that really sends the message and suggestion to purchase from the minute the customer walks through the door....buy it or at least try it!..lolol
not a marketing guy here...just wingin' it as a shareholder!.....stay safe
still getting 'messed with. A few green pennies with a 7cent range (on zero volume...many here hold more shares than traded today) Who the hell is foolin with us here?? Think positive as they wouldn't be doing what they are doing unless they want what we have!! lolol
Offering a little tune to hopefully brighten the day and maybe a few more if this BS continues. Like Eric Clapton?? widen your screen and 'crank it up'....enjoy!!!
https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tFP1zcsNjAtqkgzSzdg9JJOLcpMVkjOSSwoyc9TKEnNyVEoyUhVKCkqLckAAC2YDqU&q=eric+clapton+tell+the+truth&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS89
need an updated store locator map. TryTATT site says updated every week. Last update was 12/30...we're due anytime now after the holiday. C'mon Setti give us at least 10 more stores!!
jumped in for 2k additional shares in the last 2 days. Imo major games being played with todays ludicrous action of a 5 cent range on almost ZERO volume and yesterdays pounding after the astounding news of the companys' production expansion progress and potential as well as worldwide movement in establishing trademarks.
IMO BT is on guard and would buy us out (or hostile take us over if possible) if we get too big for our britches.
Shorts and controllers like today and yesterday smell free $$$. BT smells something they may need to purchase that will be more expensive than they are wiling to pay at the time they are ready (or need) to pull the trigger(so kill the momentum as long as possible). IMO BT is behind all of the shorting and controlling that we are experiencing...but TAAT will break through all of it this month.
Only my opinion but I don't believe any of us would still be here after Decembers trouncing if we didn't truly believe that TAAT doesn't sit on the doorstep of something that's uniquely unique...lol.. in product and potentially worth 10s of billions of $$ in the final accounting.
stay safe...stay well..
happy...sometimes 'boots on the ground' are able to shed some light in the midst of the darkness... I'm beginning to see the light. GO TAAT :)
The Brunswick Ohio convenience store called me yesterday (out of the blue) asking me how much TAAT I wanted to buy and what flavor because they were putting together their second order which they expected would arrive this thurs or fri. 'THEY CALLED ME' wow!! using my phone number from my initial call to them inquiring about TAAT availability. I never asked them for a heads up return call about when the next shipment would be coming in, let alone put in my order.
They were sold out when I first called and now are obviously collecting prior requests for 'MORE TAAT' so they could at least satisfy the current users and initial inquiries and then add a bit more for the new 'first time walk-in traffic' that says 'hey I want to try that TAAT..lol.
Sound like Setti's market tracking and info gathering program to anyone??
A pretty good sign I would say.
BT has a choke hold on this stock once again.
tip from happyglass 2 months ago 'rdt'. Just jumped on it after DD. No bogart as you probably were here before me. Just glad to be here and happy to work online with 'happyglass'
We are all going to be happy in the AM and moving forward. IMO TAAT will 'crush' and there is little resistance standing in our way. Patent approval and uplist will send a message to BT that now 'the game is on FOR REAL'.
buyout offer?? Setti...just tell them you will call them back when they've finally added enough zeros to at least interest you enough to set a lunch date... on them.
gl TAATers
always helps to have friends in 'HIGH' places...lol
seems like now the current consensus for TAATs' future SP is somewhere between 10X to 100X ...lol. Would love to have 5 but any number north of 10X would be more than this OLD heart could withstand!!
ty rigdowntex
still have the belief that Medif and the extractors will reap their harvest as the world continues to warm up to the fact that weeds derivatives have been accessible for thousands of years but only NOW have the most intuitive, innovative exceptionally gifted companies been able to unlock the key and deliver the full potential of what the plant has had to offer for all of these centuries..
And so we wait (some of us vicariously...lol) for the 'worm to turn' fully knowing that it's inevitable.
(not to infiltrate this board with alternative suggestions but in good conscience I couldn't go without offering ...put TAAT on your 'watch list'. A Canadian company with a patented, absolutely unique product that's breaking out and has NO worldwide competition in a trillion dollar market. Hemp cigarettes'. no tobacco, no nicotine, can't tell it from the real thing with a bit of CBD calming effect as you smoke. Priced at 3.99 a pack 'cause it's LEGAL with no tobacco/nicotine tax).
Happy New Year to you all...lurking and waiting for 'the worm to turn..
hr12x
still have the belief that Medif and the extractors will reap their harvest as the world continues to warm up to the fact that weeds derivatives have been accessible for thousands of years but only NOW have the most intuitive, innovative exceptionally gifted companies been able to unlock the key and deliver the full potential of what the plant has had to offer for all of these centuries..
And so we wait (some of us vicariously...lol) for the 'worm to turn' fully knowing that it's inevitable.
(not to infiltrate this board with alternative suggestions but in good conscience I couldn't go without offering ...put TAAT on your 'watch list'. A Canadian company with a patented, absolutely unique product that's breaking out and has NO worldwide competition in a trillion dollar market. Hemp cigarettes'. no tobacco, no nicotine and can't tell it from the real thing with a bit of CBD calming effect as you smoke.)
Happy New Year to you all...lurking and waiting for 'the worm to turn..
hr12x
still have the belief that Valens and the extractors will reap their harvest as the world continues to warm up to the fact that weeds derivatives have been accessible for thousands of years but only NOW have the most intuitive, innovative exceptionally gifted companies been able to unlock the key and deliver the full potential of what the plant has had to offer for all of these centuries..
And so we wait (some of us vicariously...lol) for the 'worm to turn' fully knowing that it's inevitable.
(not to infiltrate this board with alternative suggestions but in good conscience I couldn't go without offering ...put TAAT on your 'watch list'. A Canadian company with a patented, absolutely unique product that's breaking out and has NO worldwide competition in a trillion dollar market. Hemp cigarettes'. no tobacco, no nicotine and can't tell it from the real thing with a bit of CBD calming effect as you smoke.)
Happy New Year to you all...lurking and waiting for 'the worm to turn..
hr12x
An article from Oct that has been re-released (without recent events included for some reason??). But we all know/or should know most of the highlights that have transpired since 10/11/20. The link to the article itself is shown below but requires a subscription to view it. I cut and pasted pieces of it until I cobbled together the full article which you can read in its' entirety.
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https://www.nasdaqstocks.com/hot-nasdaq-stocks/6-reasons-that-taat-is-going-to-be-the-hottest-stock-of-2021/
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NASDAQ Stocks
Jan 2, 2021
Six Reasons that (CSE: TAAT) (OTC: TOBAF) is Going to be the Hottest Stock of 2021
October 11, 2020 (original article)
Six Reasons that (CSE: TAAT) (OTC: TOBAF) is Going to be the Hottest Stock of 2021
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The cigarette business is still a big one. With it being such a health concern, we like to pretend it isn’t, but globally, it’s an $888 Billion business. Worldwide one in six people are hooked on this unhealthy habit.
What if there was a way to give this market what it wants, but without the negative side effects? Such a product seems like wishful thinking, doesn’t it? A cigarette without the drawbacks of a cigarette would change everything.
Enter “BEYOND TOBACCO”, from TAAT Lifestyle and Wellness (NYSE: TOBAF)
Not only does this product exist, but it’s ready to be sent to market. Taat has created a hemp-based cigarettes, with no nicotine, no tobacco and even no THC – “Beyond Tobacco”
Taat is the brainchild of Joe Deighan, the maker of Wild Hemp, the first hemp cigarette to ever hit the market. He has refined the process and teamed up with a new CEO, Setti Coscarella, who ran the Alternative Tobacco division at Phillip Morris. Coscarella has worked closely with individual smokers and knows exactly what it is that draws them to cigarettes. Paired with Deighan’s expertise in hemp, Taat has created a product that looks, feels, tastes and smells just like a cigarette – but the only active ingredient is CBD, which cuts into nicotine withdrawal with its anti-anxiety properties.
Taat is going to totally revolutionize this trillion-dollar market – and here are just the top six reasons why.
NUMBER ONE: MAJOR BACKING
October 9th was a huge news day for Taat, with the closer of an over $6 million-dollar private placement by a group of investors that included Ms. Debbie Chang, co-founder of Horizon Ventures.
For those of you who don’t know, Horizon Ventures Limited is a Hong Kong firm that manages the private investment of Sir Li Ka-shing, the 30th richest person in the world and owner of the second largest charitable foundation after Bill Gates. Li Ka-shing is a massive presence in the Asian Venture Capital market.
China has over 300 million smokers – nearly as many smokers in China as there are people in America. Awareness over the dangers of smoking in China is only rising, and support from Horizon Ventures limited puts real heavyweight support in Taat’s corner.
NUMBER TWO:
INDUSTRY EXPERTS CHOSE TAAT AS THE WAY FORWARD
Setti Coscarella is not the only high-profile figure from Phillip Morris to have jumped ship to Taat. CRO Tim Corkum had over 20 years at Phillip Morris International, specializing in sales and commercialization before leaving for Taat. The company also recently added Michael Saxon to its advisory board, who also had 20 years’ experience with Phillip Morris, as a growth strategist. All of these industry experts choose to resign their positions at one of the most powerful tobacco companies to move to Taat. These are people who know the cigarette and cigarette-alternative market, and they all believe enough in Taat enough to jump ship for it.
How huge this is cannot be overstated. Tobacco is not a market where new brands just appear – there hasn’t been a new brand in the space in decades. And yet Taat is already attracting the most forward thinking and experienced members of this market. These industry experts know that alternative options to products we already consume are what the world is looking for. Setti Coscarella’s entire job at Philip Morris was to look for these alternatives – and he decided that the best alternative was “Beyond Tobacco” after trying the product for himself. Just a sample was enough to convince him that this was the best way forward.
NUMBER THREE: A MASSIVE EXISTING MARKET
Taat is aiming to target the American cigarette market first. Despite growing health concerns around cigarettes, and aggressive warnings, the cigarette market in the US is still significant. In 2018 alone, 215 billion cigarettes were sold to 34 million smokers in the US – about 14% of the entire population. Two thirds of that group are what we would call “chain smokers” who smoke more than 15 cigarettes in a day – meaning a visit to a convenience store to pick up a pack is a part of their daily routine.
Indeed, convenience store owners in the US have estimated that nearly 30% of their in-store sales come from cigarettes.
Taat has stated its goal is not to try and covert new smokers, but to target these existing smokers – people for whom smoking is part of their life, but also crave a less harmful alternative. “Beyond Tobacco” is that alternative – the best alternative.
The thing is, not only would Taat be targeting this huge existing market, it would be able to perform better in it than actual cigarette companies. Tobacco products have been burdened by severe taxation as well as strict regulations. Taat’s “Beyond Tobacco” blend is made from hemp, which has incredibly generous regulations – much less than tobacco, and much less than even cannabis grown for marijuana products. Where tobacco struggles to get to market, “Beyond Tobacco” can be delivered at a lower and more attractive price. In how many markets that you can think of is the healthier “premium” option the more affordable one?
NUMBER FOUR: PATENTED – NO SUBSTITUTION
After Taat developed the hemp blend to use in their “Beyond Tobacco” product, they discovered that the process for it was novel, and quickly moved to secure a patent. This proprietary “Beyond Tobacco” blend has a unique, rich flavor to it that now has legal protection against reproduction reproduction. This is a huge benefit. Not only does Taat already have its manufacturing ready to start producing its product in large quantities to take the North American market, no other latecomer brands will be able to give the exact brand experience that Taat will. Every other competitor is going to be stuck playing catch up.
NUMBER FIVE: OUTSTANDING PRODUCT
A patent is great but needs a great product to be attached to. Previous attempts to provide a replacement to cigarettes have often struggled to entice away smokers. Less than 10% of attempts to quit smoking are estimated to be successful. Smokers have complained that vaping, gums and patches just feel too different. Coscarella, working closely with real smokers, has understood that beyond the nicotine, there’s no one thing that attracts customers to smoking. It’s the taste and the smell, but also the ritual of taking out and lighting the cigarette. For some it’s an oral fixation – for others its having something to do with their hands. Trial runs with real smokers show that where other alternatives fail, smokers have taken to Taat cigarettes as an alternative that they can commit to. Feedback shows that it has all the taste of a premium cigarette and a more subtle smell and provides the exact same benefit in cutting down on anxiety through its mild CBD content. All this with no tobacco and no nicotine. Taat even managed to win over some cannabis smokers who had bad reactions to THC. Taat “Beyond Tobacco” is everything that the smoking population wants, with none of the side effects that they worry about.
NUMBER SIX: A PLAN FOR GROWTH
This all sounds wonderful for smokers, but investors should be getting excited as well. Taat is getting ready for an American launch in the middle of Q4 – it is going to be the hot topic very soon.
Taat has already prepared a list of carefully selected American states to begin distribution in, and has already partnered with key retailers in these areas. The sales support is being prepared for all these areas. Taat has already mapped out its manufacturing capacity and has a roadmap for expansion. When the sales in the initial states are successful, Taat has plans to expand to cover the American market.
The American market with its 14% smoking population is huge – but that’s nothing compared to the potential global market, where less health-conscious governments have allowed smoking rates to skyrocket. Taat could be the product that knocks out tobacco on a global scale and the window is open to get in right now on the ground floor.
And, as mentioned, Taat already has the connections and backing to move into the truly massive Chinese market, which has more than half of all the male smokers in the entire world. Over 100 packs of cigarettes are consumed per person every year in China – even changing a few of those packs to Taats would be a game changer.
GREAT FOR SMOKERS, GREAT FOR INVESTORS
For smokers trying to kick their addiction and move away from harmful tobacco products, Taat is the complete package – everything they needed and wanted in what they smoke. For investors it’s the complete package as well. Taat is a company with great management, great backers, a great product, a great market and a great plan for expansion.
Alternative and innovative replacements to familiar consumables are where money is to be found in the market – we’ve seen replacements take off in sectors from food to energy. These alternatives always have to strike a balance between replicating what they replace while adding new benefits. “Beyond Tobacco” is a premium brand in alternatives, giving amazing replication with none of the severe harmful effects. It’s the perfect replacement in a trillion dollar industry.
Astute investors are already performing their due diligence and moving into (CSE: TAAT).
called Macedonia and (the young attendant) said that TAAT is selling pretty well. They have stock on hand at 3.99 a pack and the BOGO offer 'appears to have expired. I remind you that I was speaking with a young attendant that doesn't have a handle on the important stuff we wish to know. But it's selling...and it's selling at the advertised price.
Called the Brunswick store (next closest to Cleveland) and they are 'sold out'. customers buying single packs and cartons. They have re-ordered and waiting for the next shipment. Price is $3.99 a pack.
MY takeaway?...we are on a friggin ROLL in the first 3 weeks of the launch and I don't think any shorts want to stand in front of this run away train anytime soon..but what do I know.
2021 should be a barn burner.
hr12x
anyone have a thought as to why we haven't infiltrated Cleveland proper? The store locater map on the website shows 'Macedonia' (23mi. out) as the closest launch site to date.
Setti knows why and I'm sure if some are driving from Canada to purchase multiple cartons, then Clevelanders(?) will drive 23 miles to try a TAAT if they are all but sold out in Macedonia and everywhere else in the state
....wouldn't you? lolol.
Don't for a moment think that 'some' in all of the states that surround OHIO aren't driving more than 23 miles as well. A wildfire is a hell of a thing to try and corral with dry brush fueled by 30 mph winds..DAILY!!
Get 'em now while they're cheap and ripe for the asking.
Anticipating that I just might be able to finally secure my financial future at 71 years of age....glta
doesn't take much to move this thing when the shorts call off the dogs. The PR was absolutely intense and they ran for the exits. Can't wait for Mon. after a long weekend for that release to simmer in the crock pot for 3 days.
Yesterday was an awesome reversal. IMO next weeks fireworks will make it look like just a fart in the wind...glty
enjoyed it Al 100 ...ty and happy new year. TAAT will be a rocket in 2021.
$3.10 CAD is correct for a $2.44 USD x 1.27 exchange rate. IDK about the volume discrepancy. Colorado boy here just happier than shyte to be deep into TAAT as we explode. Happy New Year Gladheateher
IMO big tobacco knows exactly what the shit is going down. Setti is one of their prodigy.
He is the acumen of much of the expertise that he developed while at PH.
A man pigeonholed in a styfling environment with an idea for a product that parallels the original.
The best minds from PM marketing and development are on board with him.. and for us!
IMO this has all of this earmarks of a home run.
What is a home run you ask? a 10 bagger? would love it..5 bagger feels real
+32% pounding to the upside on the first day of new news sent a clear message to the WORLD. 'We will own this space soon in the USA'. Wish to or 'NEED' our product outside the US? It will be coming to convenience stores near you soon....lolol.
(fantasy) YOU must order ASAP as the current production run is 'sold out' but the next one is being processed in anticipation of an impending order from overseas.
thank you for your interest..
that might have something to do with the 30% spike in the sp in the past hour...lolol...hehe. I can't stand it. Eat my shorts 'SHORTS'!! aholes!
FOMO can be excruciating!!!. Especially for those that have been 'lurking on the fence post' as she begins to move...were 'stopped out' or were 'freaked and scared out' but want back in!!
ya'll come. Thinly traded here. We'll have the shorts on the run. Pony up for the ride!!!
dug a little deeper at $1.99 usd. Will look like chump change, movie money, nickel and dimes discovered in the washer and in the cushions of the sofa by the time we spin the money meter around 5 or 10 times (or more..lol).
More where that came from if I break in to the vacation fund and Christmas layaway plan for next year. Preparing today and relishing the future..
GLTA TAATers.
something is brewing!!! congrats to all the hearty souls that hung in and held on through this painful tax selling season exacerbated by the scum of the market that used it to squeeze out many of our fellow investors.
News today?...maybe!. But will be coming in the next week or two IMO. The stars are lining up with every achieved milestone we have been told to date by the company. News...ok #1 and awesome #2 Q numbers... a plethora of new stores added...another state (or 2)...full patent awarded = uplist in '21.
Raid again by the shorts?...maybe. Only NOW THEY may be putting their financial upside at high risk. My bet is that they move on to pick on some other likely target to severely clip their wings and cripple them for awhile. That's what they do, legal...but despicable IMO!!
Again. Congratulations to those that have weathered the storm. Those were some pretty heavy seas with waves that just kept coming and coming.
Happy New Year and a prosperous '21 to all within the reach of this post...
jumped on 2k @2.47CAD/1.93 usd. Hammer it further and I'll be 'IN' again.
2021 will be epic for TAAT..
I think you can bet on it schmelzy...and if they want back in, the tax loss sellers will have to pay $5+ for TAAT in late January after having to wait 31 days to prevent a wash sale.
might even finish green. the shorts are covering and retail that got stopped out are jumping back in...IMO.
IMO the shorts (with a little help) are grinding out a bottom on the heels of the news release. I smell a reversal coming. Been wrong many times but getting hammered today just doesn't add up for me...
The market either isn't aware or 'is and doesn't care':
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"Two-Week Update: Retail Placements of TAAT(TM) Continue in Ohio, Production Underway for an Additional TAAT(TM) Shipment
12/28/2020 03:01 AM ET"
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Terrific news about a second production run to replenish 'existing stores that sold heavily in the first 2 weeks and supply new stores' with TAAT product.... went virtually unnoticed.
The notice went out at 3:01am and by 4:30ET TAAT was down 1-2%.
No Santa Claus rally for us. IMO that awareness and attitude toward this startup offering a killer "new product" will change in 2021. Fomo from retail and big money will understand that they missed out on some easy $$ and better buy a boarding pass before this boat leaves the dock without them.
weak hands are still out there. Taking another hit this AM, how ridiculous!!
my bad marathon man. Sent out a 'universal holiday wish' to ALL and haven't checked in on Valens in a couple of days to see your post.
I trust Santa arrived for the kids/g-kids? and your whole clan is happy, well, safe and financially equipped to deal with 'what is going down' in this country.
GO Valens!!...even though I still lurk in the shadows. gonna light the fuse in'21.
hr12x
not to minimize the second production run and nice to read in print happy, but why is there no information about the magnitude of the production and order size as it relates to cartons, $$ CAD or USD..etc? IMO a bunch of pallets gives us little to go on as to whether we may be heading into a supply problem or not with all of the store expansion.
If the new production isn't significantly large enough (lots larger) to adequately re-supply the initial outlets order (that was only $150,000 CAD), plus supply the new stores added to date, plus timely supply for the near term additional stores that will require initial stocking, times a factor of "X" 2? thus providing inventory before run #3 is required...then where are we?
I only count 21 stores on the site map which was updated on 12/21. How many do we 'really' have now and when are we supplying them with product?...and with what?...excess inventory from the first run that kick started this venture?
The next wave is hopefully coming and we are hopefully prepared to meet the demand. But IMO we have no way of knowing how significant the demand is 'presently' or what it's anticipated to be with the newly added stores ..plus those eagerly standing in the queue.
thank you happy... I'm happy too, but pensive.
tomorrow will be the 'Preface for the BOOK of TAAT' only proceeded by the books cover.
Who, what, when, where, and how TAAT has come to exist. Rich with accolades to those that have been instrumental in its development...which includes us retail investors($).
Destined to make it to the 'Best Sellers list' financially reaping multi millions (billions?) on a boundless run driven by worldwide enthusiasm and acceptance.
TAAT will be on the tip of EVERY smokers tongue whether they try it or not. All as a result of eventually hearing about the TAAT story through someone they know..
Waaay different world in '21 TAATers!!
to all of those within the reach of this post...have a joyous and safe Christmas (as well as those celebrating THEIR own personal ethnic events). Can only pray that we turn the corner climbing the high road in '21.
all the best from a defector that is still lurking..
hr12x