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As my Twitter post was verified to have happened yesterday..The Roys want to start taping their show. But as so often happens in "entertainment", it looks like they were signed to a deal that did not give specific dates...only "early 2012".
So they are as much in the dark as we are. I sure hope they got some advance money.....they are probably on retainer for a year. It would be a shame to waste their talent IMO.
So why would the SEC be interested in results before a document was filed?
Sorry...forgot to post the link.....
https://twitter.com/#!/theroysonline
Who would have ever thought this stock could become so boring? I thought that things were jumping at Valcom, at least according to VV.
If you believe that this is STILL the case, then you should be putting every dollar you have (and then some) into this stock.
Just remember who are the secured creditors and who are the unsecured creditors.
< with exercise price of no greater than $0.10 pps, that would put the company at a valuation around $30mm - which is quite close to the value of the co.'s assets (including goodwill)... this looks to me like the co. is interested in a buyout at $0.10 per share which is a 400% rise from current pps of $0.02...>
Holdings greater than 5% as of 12/31/11 are required to be filed with SEC by 2/15/12.
The 13-G is a requirement. All 5% holders in all companies have been filing these reports. Haven't you noticed this is in the past few days?
No, you learned from me that the ONE noteholder was issued a minimum 168 million shares. You came up with the $8 million figure and the .047 per share price.
Maybe you would care to relink that part of the 8-K?
Don't forget about the other two 8-K's that were issued......
<So we learned from TigerPac DD that the note holder got 168 million shares at $0.047 a share for the $8 million debt>
Masterlu...The first guy that actually makes sense on this board.
I suggest you reread my message.
I say to review ALL the 8-K's issued in the second half of 2011.
I only linked one 8-K. There are at least two others.
I think my math is correct once you add in the share counts from the other 8-K's. And note, that the 168 million shares from the latest 8-K is the minimum amount conversion...could be higher.
<Please correct your math: 140M+168M=308m NOT 350m. >
I suggest that people look at the all the 8-K's that were filed in the second half of 2011 and count the number of shares that were to be issued as a result of financing that didn't go according to plan.
Here's the most recent one which includes a statement of an additional 168 million common shares that were to be issued.
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/111110/ants.pk8-k.html?legacy=1
If you notice the latest 13-D filing by Fletcher, it uses a company share count as of 6/30/11 which was in the 140 million range. Add in the 168 million (from above) plus shares issued from the other 8-K's and you get a total outstanding share count closer to 350 million.
Just something to think about.
Not sure where you are reading this but it was a $42.4 net LOSS.
Check the 10-K (page 22).
That was also the time they announced that their largest customer at that time would not be renewing it's contract as of 12/31/10. That contract accounted for 71% of their revenue (4.4 million worth).
Things (the stock price0 started going downhill from there because they had been conducting vigorous private placement tranactions just before 12/31/10.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/financials/drawFiling.asp?docKey=136-000115752311001845-4QO9QFEBAPLFUDOO1AP2G566MJ&docFormat=TXT&formType=10-K
<42.4 million income in 2010 wow just read this whats holding this back ?!!!!!>
Wow...let's forget 14 cents and skip right to $1.
We are talking about a variety show not a documentary here.
Don't think there are plans to shoot 13 episodes in one day.
As usual, you've got things backwards.
According to The Roys web site, they are in Nashville to record a new CD. Nothing else planned.
Nagoya...Sometimes you can't please everyone..maybe it's a sign to sell if i turn positive.
Technically speaking I like the price action lately.
It's getting more obvious no matter what the company says or doesn't say, there are behind the scene rumblings which could lift the cloud of uncertainty.
Congrats to you Dead...you were right and I was wrong..like I said before , one man is not going to stop an army. Regardless of what anybody thinks, Ants has only a couple of employees left and is barely in business. Hence no PR, no filings, CEO and President left, product doesn't work, any asset sale by company will pay off secured creditors first.
You can trade all the stock you want on this company and make tons of money but at the end of all this the company is essentially worthless.
JMO.
<All that talking and you sold at .012?? After getting in at .0077?>
Funky..thank you very much for researching and posting these valuable court documents.
TP
Rick,
I was the first and probably only person to say that Smite was yanking everyone's chain about selling the Valcom tapes.
You can't have a "Storage Auction" if you continuously pay your storage bill can you?
Everyone was so emotionally invested in Smite's words that you fell for his prank IMO hook, line, and sinker.
The poster who then extropolated Smite's alledged $2 million receipt as a basis for revaluing the entire library should be particulary singled out for Dreamer of the Year.
TP
Thanks for the entertainment guys...I'll be movin on now...good luck.
Have I not been right so far?
I did not see the Status Quo Order coming but it falls in line with the chaos that always besets Valcom. Remember VV personally appointed some of those people from the other side only months earlier. Did VV tell them one thing and then do another thing?
I want Valcom to prove me wrong.
Who's Compound? If you're not a Stern fan, it won't bring a smile to your face.
That was mine doug...
This is a penny stock. I think PR's about fluff pieces matter more than financials (except if you artificially inflate the value of your library by a factor of 50).
Who's Compound?
Here are the buys and the approximate time:
100K at .008 @ 9:40am
42K at .0073 @ 9:53am
100K at .0081 @10:35am
100K at .0083 @ 10:38am
Like I said before , one man has no chance against an army, so sometime you join take advantage of the momomentum, then escape out the side flank.
You guys are at least entertaining, I'll give you that.
Believe what you want to believe...you expect me to believe your posts are true....I demand the same respect...lol.
To be fair, releasing financials won't make one bit of difference in whether someone is going to buy this stock. It's driven by the story that someone creates with the hopes that someone else will plunk down dollars with stars in their eyes and oblivious to the fact that the company has overpromised and underdelivered for years.
However it would be nice if they did release financials so there is some way of quantifying their promises.
In at .0077, out at .012 .
Nice days work.
Thanks again guys for the alerts.
Thanks to all those who sent me private e-mails to just buy the dips...up 60% in the time it took me to walk the dog.
You know exactly what you were implying. Don't try to backpeddle now.
Of course you were at .0028...lol
Exceptt your prior posts say otherwise....
Initial small position at .0032.....most of your shares bought in the .0058 - .006 range.
Straight from your posts not mine.
I like the revisionist history though.
And you still have a profit. Congrats on that.
Hope most of you realize that you have been getting punked by some of your "leaders" on this board. Stock already off 50% from it's highs just a few days ago.
Keep praying it will come back because some of those posters never will.
One person (me) is not going to make a difference on a stock message board versus dozens of your group.
So why are you so worried about me? Cause maybe I'm saying the emperor has no clothes?
Who cares about ATRN...stick to ANTS.
<yep that's what everyone said when ATRN was trading sub penny - oh i've heard it a million times on countless stock chat rooms - one thing i've learned is that when the penniless bashers show up that is a good sign!>
Fly,
The product doesn't work. IBM tested it, found tons of bugs that Ants couldn't resolve, and gave up on it. Don't be suckered by all those old company videos out there.
Besides, most companies now will just buy an entire new system rather than try to consolidate old systems into one common format.
The IBM ship sailed a long time ago. There are no revenues. It's just a shell company. I have never lost a dollar in this stock. It has always been a hyped company even when it had a product. Now it's become a more hyped stock when it doesn't have a product.
This is a stock trading vehicle, nothing more. If you get more buy volume then sell volume, the stock price goes up. Some thing in reverse. Don't try to con any of us here that this company has a business with good fundamentals and the great IBM connection. The shareholders will be last in a long line of unsecured holders of stock if any buyout occurs. Which means you'll get 0.0 .
But if your followers believe your promises and don't mind getting fleeced in the end, then more power to you. There is always a need for sheep in this world.
The replies are always the same from those who are pushing the stock the hardest. I've commented on this stock for years on the Yahoo board. I've heard all the "positives" about Ants over the past couple of days. Unfortunately you are quoting "news" from the last two years as the stock has fallen from 2 to below a penny.
Hey, it's your money. But to characterize the major shareholder, Zdansky, as a huge insider who must know the value of this company is overstating the obvious. He was duped just like a lot of people on this board are being duped right now. And perhaps he could use the tax loss as well.
Show me any proof that this company has good revenues or makes any money. The only thing this company is good at is issuing shares and now even the guy that orchestrated this whole mess has moved on.
<Really, based on what? show us proof of that and I will believe you, otherwise your are lying to get in low>
IMO, Another "investor" who got suckered by Kozak into buying in.
Zdarsky...
The company is worthless, the product is worthless in it's present state...need tons on money to fix all the bugs in the product and even then companies don't want it.
Just a trading vehicle right now between unsuspecting speculators.
I love that some people describe talking with a lawyer as huge news. Kind of like going to the office on a Friday afternoon and finding nobody there.
Face it, no filings since since November. The website hasn't been updated since 2010 which for a software company with "cutting edge" technology is death, CEO has moved on after deviously writing a blog that encouraged everyone to buy while he was selling, CEO awarding himself a doubling of salary and tons of free options in 2010 while the company was losing boatloads of money, misleading the public in believing that IBM was the savior when in fact IBM tested the product, found tons of bugs, and Ants couldn't fix them....and then Ants failed to disclose that information to its shareholders...ask all the software engineers who got laid off by Ants and never got paid on their vacation pay accruals. This company is trading at a penny for a reason. As far as I'm concerned it's a shell company that has no value.
When you guys speak of doing your due diligence I have to shake my head in digust. It's sad that this is what some people have to resort to earn money. You'd be better off a screenwriter for Hollywood.
Looks like the music is stopping...everybody trying to find a seat. Some will be left out.
Smite:
Drop us a line if you hear something. While not a fan of bluegrass music, The Roys have certainly done a great job of promoting themselves over social media sites. It should be too hard (with your industry contacts) to find out whether or not TV tapings are happening within this two week period or if the schedule has been pushed back.
TP
VV at home in Las Vegas as recently as 2/3.....the reviews of the financials must be stressing him out.