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Is this the end of GRSU? I suppose it was just a shell company and a fraud.
One share has traded today at .0022. Was there a commission paid on that trade? Why would anybody have an interest in one share on a company at a price on $0.0022. Is that the value of a single grain of rice? It did not paint the tape up or down at all.
The key here is the flow of information and news. Free stock said he heard that VDRM is talking with a Canadian company about a deal. Is there a way to verify that talks are truly ongoing? When orders go out to produce the Vitastem product perhaps we investors could watch the order be placed and see the shipment of supply go out to Amazon. A private detective could perhaps look at telephone logs. He could see travel information about flights from LA to Canada or wherever else Dr. Otiko is trying to do deals. He could interview the people that Dr. Otiko is supposed to be dealing with. He could interview Dr, Otiko himself to find out how it is that a debt is not collectible from himself. How is that even possible? This is a question for science as well as we VDRM investors.
Thanks Griego. I will try to get the FDA approved drug for sure. I received a week ago both the powder in a vial and the nasal spray from Direct Peptides from the UK. I got as well the bacteriostatic water. I keep it all in the refrigerator. I tried the nasal spray already. It seems simpler to use this method of administration. The instruction was 8 sprays up the nose. I felt effects in perhaps 30 minutes. How good looking the young lady is also has a strong effect on arousal for me.
The fact that Vyleesi can raise blood pressure and Cialis can lower blood pressure is a serendipitous arrangement. I get Cialis fairly cheap online. The two together could mean that you are good to go for more than a day. I do think though that a person stills needs an attractive partner to be aroused sexually. The limiting factor for true happiness and bliss is the fact that youth and beauty are in limited supply and thus subject to fierce competitive pressures.
The cost online truly is about $5 per dose. The price for FDA approved is $899 for 8 doses I think. The cost online is 5% of the cost of FDA approved. I am a shareholder here and would like to see the profits come to PTN, but as a consumer I may just get my own supply online.
Are syringes legal and easy to buy over the counter? I have never bought a syringe in my whole life.
I hope that this post does not hurt our stock price.
Thanks Shanak10. Perhaps to get certain deals done a higher pps is needed. Reverse splits are usually adverse to shareholders as it permits future shareholder dilution to occur. Also to maintain otcqb status ,if we get uplisted , i think there is a minimum price of 1 cent.
Are effective doses for men and women any different for Vyleesi.? AMAG is offering a promotion of 4 initial doses for $99. I wonder if it matters whether the patient is a man or a woman to get the deal. Online looks like $5 per dose. You would also need bacteriostatic water and a syringe. I do not like the uncertainty with purity of product. I am willing to pay significantly extra to be assured of FDA quality regulation. I have never shot myself with a needle before. Subcutaneous cannot be that hard.
I do not see discussed anywhere how PTN and AMAG can or will shut down unlicensed PT-141 manufacture and sale worldwide. I think this issue is perhaps why the stock price has underperformed expectations so far.
Neuropeptides could be the next big thing. Obesity and Mood disorders could also be target diseases with sizable patient populations.
Media coverage should increase in September when AMAG brings Vyleesi to market.
Is Plantation Corp. in the process of producing our Budlife product? It seems like a simple product to produce. I saw the prototype in a video perhaps one year ago.
Would it be worth getting a private eye to look for any evidence of business activity?
Now 1/4 the value of one week ago. Market cap is now $2.3 million. I thought NSI-189 had some value to neurology. It may have value in the future but not for the long time patient loyal shareholder.
Adam Feurestein discussed the needle fear and the rare side effects to kill Vyleesi off. Is that the real reason we are declining? Could it be that AMAG is going to back out? Is it that generic Bremelanotide aka PT-141 is cheap and easy to get online? Is it that management always seems to sabotage it’s own stock price?
What others things are impeding PTN? Too many warrants?
We are now below $5 only 2 days after a reverse split that had us at $8+. $4.39 at this time. The market cap is now only
$4.4 million. NSI-189 is proven safe. It is demonstrated to grow new neurons and to grow tissue mass in the hippocampus. It is showing cognitive improvements in humans. It should have a value higher than $4 million. We also have proprietary neural stem cells.
Our company also has some cash and some assets. In China or India they could start using NSI-189 and helping people that could use some help. Stroke, Alzheimer’s, Fronto-Temporal Dementia, TBI, autism are all neurodegenerative diseases. NSI-189 is a neuro-regenerative molecule. It is safe. Perhaps it could be a supplement in less restrictive countries. The more it gets used, the more we will learn what it is good for.
What am I missing here? That management is incompetent?
The stop sign was changed to a yield sign on OTC website. The no information was changed to limited information. They filed the quarterly about a week ago.
What would get the yield sign taken down?
What would get the limited information taken down?
Thanks Grandmasin for the Guidelines related to Trading Penny Stocks. I will print it out and put it in my trading advice file.
Most of the rules relate to how ruthless the sell side players are and not to be gullible.
You yourself are here with purportedly altruistic intentions to help novice investors learn the game. This would seem to be a rare thing. The money that the experienced player makes comes from the clueless novice investors.
How many other protecting angels are there in the penny stock trading community? Again thanks for the great input and advice here on the VDRM board.
I am losing money here but it is an interesting tutorial in how the smart money preys on the dumb money. Maybe that is how a person learns here on OTC.
From 0.0013 to 0.0022 was a gain of 69% last week. That is with no real news yet. A move back to the long term high would be from 0.0013 to 0.07. A 54000% gain. Would people really buy this stock if we had good news?
AMAG is at $8.76. They have to pay us $60 million due 7/21/19. That is today. It seems as though the AMAG shareholders are not enthusiastic about Vyleesi and the profits that could potentially be made for AMAG. PTN is also not doing as well as would be expected. Could there be a concern about AMAG reneging or backing out?
Our current outstanding shares is listed at 175.9 million shares. To suddenly go to 1.5 + billion shares seems like a catastrophic punctuated change and a dramatic shift in how optimistic an investor would ever be allowed to be.
Perhaps DFG could get payed off to go away and not destroy the company. It might benefit both DFG and the shareholders to not result in a final PPS of $0.0001.
Milo says that DFG will get 1.5 billion shares. When will we know whether that is true?
Thanks Grandmasin and Here Today. I notice that Dr. Otiko owns almost all the Preferred Shares. If the common shares go to zero is that any loss for Dr. Otiko?
The way that VDRM is set up with the revenues going to the podiatry practice and loans going to the podiatry practice that then are deemed not collectible and a distributing company owned by Dr. Otiko that takes revenues away from VDRM. Also a massive debt that is owed by the shareholders.
Even if sales went exponentially higher I am not sure that it would or could benefit the shareholder.
We are at 22 cents now pre split. The RS cut the shareholders in half in the end. Yet it went up in anticipation of a RS. Any comments from anybody. We all know that RS is a bad thing. But why did it go up initially? Is it because it could also have meant institutional interest in doing a deal? Large institutions cannot purchase penny stocks or even any stock below $5.
At what point would VDRM become current? How long after that until OTC website lifts the Stop Sign- no info status? Thanks.
With a floorless convertible toxic loan is there any possible positive future for OWCP? Once we have 3 billion outstanding shares if we were to get a $100 million market cap (relative success)that would be a price per share of around 3 cents. Is that the best that we could hope for?
I was going to buy VDRM today due to the IR email. Fidelity will not allow for me to buy a pink sheet stock with no information. I suppose that selling is OK but buying is forbidden.
I have one million shares. With the financial arrangement where all revenues go the the Podiatry Practice, even if we get a deal and eventually revenues, won’t all the proceeds go to Dr. Otiko and nothing goes toward the wealth of VDRM shareholders?
What is in it for the shareholder if VDRM is successful?
Also doesn’t the distribution company set up by Dr. Otiko take away much of the profit that would otherwise be possible for VDRM?
I think a shareholder letter would be a good idea.
Current shares outstanding is 20 million. After the reverse split there should be only 1 million shares outstanding at $8.00 + per share. The market cap being unchanged at around $8 million.
If NSI-189 has any potential we should be worth $8 million. The neural stem cells should also have some value for the shareholders.
NVIV is doing spinal scaffolds to grow axons in the human spine after trauma. They are in their second clinical trial with 8 research hospitals participating. Few patients are enrolling however. Combining the scaffold with stem cells and neural growth factors could just be the ticket for greater success. I would think this would be obvious.
I wonder whether NVIV and CUR have talked to each other.
CUR went from 33 cents to 41 cents on news of a reverse stock split of 20 to 1. Usually that would make investors sell off a stock. It seems counterintuitive that the stock would go up 22% in anticipation of a reverse stock split. What am I missing?
With a price of $8 and 20x fewer shares perhaps an institutional investor can take an interest in CUR.
Thanks griego and blueeyedcatch. The shorts are fortunate that most investors have not read the encouraging testimonials. I would expect that over time the public will become more educated about bremelanotide aka Vyleesi aka PT-141. The side effects seem fairly minimal. It can be used perhaps 2 times a week. I do not think that a physician would feel comfortable with daily use. It might become less effective as well with frequent use.
The concern with the combination is priapism, an erection that lasts longer than 4 hours. I think the dose of viagra or cialis needs to be reduced by at least 50% to be safe. I like the idea of a nasal spray more than the idea of an injection. The nasal dose is 8 mg. The subcutaneous dose is 1 mg. With online purchases so easy and cheap I am not sure that actual prescription FDA approved medication is all that necessary and will cost more. Purity is more assured in the FDA regulated product. Most people would not inject an untested product bought online into their body with a needle.
I look forward to trying it out myself. Officially it needs to be administered 45 minutes before sex but testimonials say 2 hours before is a better plan. The effects can last 24 hours. A small dose of cialis is therefore more suitable as a combination drug than is viagra.
Insurance coverage makes the prescription FDA approved drug more desirable. I wonder whether PTN or AMAG can shut down the generic online PT-141 sales. Is it legal for all of these peptide companies to sell PT-141 all over the world?
Thanks Griego. Those were very interesting articles. Women have it so much easier than men which I explained previously. If a man is with a desirable woman but cannot perform it is a true disaster. Many women manage to get by without any pharmacological help even if they are not totally aroused.
I really think that it is men who will appreciate the therapeutic benefits of PT-141 aka Vyleesi the most. Men as they get older can experience ED. Let’s say after age 50. If it were to happen just a few times the anxiety of not knowing what is going to happen can make it even more likely to happen. Sexual performance is related to confidence.
I know that many men do not need any help. That is great for them. The ones that do need help know how important it is to perform well at those crucial moments when a man is lucky enough to have the opportunity to experience life at its very best.
Not so much is ever really on the line for women. Artificial lubrication can solve the problem for them to a large degree. If PT-141 is to be a blockbuster I think that PTN should be thinking about the male market much more that the female market.
If women love it too that is great. I am all for women enjoying sex more. Men would benefit from dosing their dates and partners along with themselves. I think that the FDA was worried about a party drug phenomenon. I think that the FDA has a bias against benefiting men. If a drug can benefit women then it has a priority. Why is it this way?
Men might enhance themselves privately and not tell their date about any pharmacology to make it seem as though they are naturally a total stud. That would impress women more than confiding that the man has used a drug.
Viagra does not work for some men. A combination of viagra or Cialis with Vyleesi could be the ultimate synergistic combination for men. I wonder whether that combination has been tried by anybody. I do not see the combination being discussed anywhere.
Some women might complain that their man wanted sex all night and that it was a problem for them. That is another reason why a man might want to have his date share the pharmacological enhancement.
The take home message is that performance is a bigger issue for men than it is for women.
In the annual report it says that the dual transport technology is patent pending. I thought Dr Otiko had a license to use an existing patent held by someone else. Keeping a trade secret is another way to go. No need to give royalties to anyone.
Did Todd really go to jail? I do not see him around lately. In the annual report it lists an IR man in Miramar Florida. Is that the guy that freestock and slops talk to when hearing encouraging things?
Is it legal to lie about things on the phone for the IR person?
The product for pain might be the CBD product
Aside from all the failures in general operations here what do people think about the convertible debt and the convertible line of credit. From what I understand about toxic funding, the lower the stock price the greater the number of shares that the debt holders take. Dilution can become extreme very quickly in a sort of death spiral.
I recall that VDRM has 1 billion authorized shares of which 760,000,000 were open shares. The remainder are shares that the company can dilute to enrich Dr. Otiko. I rounded up to 800,000,000 shares that would get the reverse split treatment. $0.0013 was the price per share today.
The stock price of DVLP did drop once the group of pumpers went away. If CBD is the next big thing, why is it so hard to get investors to want to buy DVLP? Is it because it is a stinky pinky?
Did it really make sense for management to do a $40 million offering at precisely the same time that FDA approval was granted. Instead management could have waited until after a run up in price per share and then sold shares that would have been at a markedly higher price. The dilution to current shareholders would have been markedly less.
Why did PTN management do that?
If the financing for closing the deals comes from selling shares, that means that the price per shares will keep going down as the selling begets lower prices and the lower prices beget more requisite selling.
A reverse split 10,000 shares to one share would result in 80,000 outstanding shares at a price of $13 per share. Would the SEC allow for this to occur? I would imagine that the company VDRM would need to become current. Would shareholders get to vote on this? What is the upper limit for a reverse split ratio? How about 100,000 to one RS ratio and a new stock price of $130 per share and only 8,000 outstanding shares? There must be an upper limit in the regulations about reverse split ratio.
I think investors here don’t realize how important a strong sex drive can be at certain make or break times.
An important issue is whether it will be easy for men to get Vyleesi. Can an educated physician prescribe Vyleesi off label? I have an intuition that it might have a greater demand by men than by women.
Men really must physiologically perform whereby it is so evidently easy for a female to get by with artificial lubricant. Let’s just say that the stakes are higher for men.
There was a proposed nasal application which would appeal better than an injection. A person would easily be able to share the product with their sexual partner if that is desirable to do.
Thanks GetRich and frontloading. I do suppose a sachet of the special gaseous environment chemicals inserted into any container could do the same as the aerated lid. Could SGMD simply supply the sachets itself? I imagine anti-mold chemicals, Bacteriostatic chemicals, perhaps anti-oxidizing chemicals. What are the new patent protected ideas that Plantation Corp has? Was a patent granted for Budlife? I will read the references that you gave me. Thanks again.
Has anyone here tried bremelanotide aka pt-141 from an online source. How did that go for you? As a shareholder I do not like counterfeit product being sold. As an investor I think we should all try it out to see if it is a real aphrodisiac. This could be huge. For thousands of years fake aphrodisiac has been peddled. Now we shareholders own the rights to the first putative real aphrodisiac.
I just hope the Spana does not continue to screw over the shareholders (me) too much or too badly.
Any news lately about Budlife? A product like that could be a market success. It could reverse the downtrend we are in. It would give us the money to close the deals that are in progress.
They had a website and I put in my personal information to make an order or to receive notification. I have not heard anything back.
I am glad that you are so confident Stockfan100. Most people would be terrified to own OWCP. If they bought at $2.00 and now sit at .01625 how could that confident feeling have persisted all the way up to now? I am not saying that you sf100 bought at $2.
If this thing does pan out the pps could go back to $3.23 or higher. Psoriasis drugs have side effects that can be severe. This is for treating a disease which is not life threatening usually. A natural plant based cream that has only rare and minor side effects could have a sizable market.
I should note that OWCP could simply sell the product right now in a dozen or so states in the USA without any FDA clearance. The same might be true in Canada nationwide. If it works it will sell. If not then perhaps OWCP is a scam.
Cannabis is already being consumed for numerous conditions but the problem is getting to a precise dosage and known absorption rate to the blood circulation.
Eating cookies or brownies has variable dosage delivery and time until physiological onset. Smoking is not a healthy route of administration. Vaping is a better way and maybe the best known way up to do the job in a healthy predictable way up to now.
A sublingual tablet allows for absorption faster and bypasses the liver. It could make good sense. It could be compliant with what a medical doctor would like to see a patient take. To tell patients to smoke joints does not seem optimal for medicine.
Thanks Scuba-D. The article does not mention men who may be an even better market than women. Once men realize that it is better than Viagra or Cialis and that it increases sex drive which the other ED drugs do not do, how could they not want it?
A man needs to have the desire along with the blood flow to the penis. Sexual desire can wane is males just as it does at times in females. Men are the ones with the greater demands on performance. A woman could use a lubricant and then fake things and get by.
If a man were to not be able to get a firm erection the party is over and he would feel terrible about how things went.