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It says discontinued. Maybe its because its sold out...or maybe they aren't selling it via BB any longer...
everybody talks how they tweet anything and everything witht he exception of Stock issues....so I figured somebody would know or could tweet them
Why is the new MP casien already discontinued?
Atleast on bb.com?
Anybody able to tweet the tweeters to find out?
I can see that point of view as well....wouldn't even argue it.....
Just threw out the idea based on cumalitve view.... It's an opportunity to be one of the only companies to or on July 4th....controversial,,,maybe....negative no,,,,it's publicity.
Mp Needs publicity as do we shareholders. Look at t like this:
If sales are thin up to .05 and pps hits .05 and we all sell...well it's .02 again before you know it....unless their are buyers they're willing to buy????publicity/perception are important
Did you review the worldnow and what they have done recently?
On a serious note:
I don't give f what the pps is today! It's based on a market cap of 1Q rev? are you serious? 1Q rev equals market cap with only short term debt. As jtlg said- they are way short on cash!
Double edged sword. Yes.
But worst case scenario is 1x rev on year at 60 million (that's convlaervative)....which equals triple pps until anybody discusses further.
This , that, and the other
Deep, did u check out worldnow? Did you see their growth and recent news? Mslp is preparing to speak loud and clear!
Awesome....Thank you again for the fresh air.
That's like totally combative , assaulting, orange cream sickle awesome!
With a spot light on tosh.0! Lol
Why do we all have to be bipolar? Lol
I'm suprised that nobody investigated my FACT from this morning...other than some thinking/saying it is NOT a FACT when it IS!!
So whats the agenda?? Get back on topic of R/S? Get back to the fact they shared some news that we new was coming?
My FACT was that MSLP has never published and distributed a PR the way they did today.
Did anybody notice Worldnow?
Did anybody go to worldnow.com
Did anybody see who partners and are clients of worldnow?
Did anybody see the distribution channels/platform of worldnow?
And after you do this research,,,,can anybody fathom that this is the most important part of the news? Can you fathom the reasoning behind it?
Happy 4th!!
News on 4th?? Hven't been able to think of anything to realistically wager....open to ideas....
Last post of Day....Until the 4th....
I was including the back orders that they stated were roughly 4 million.
And I made the assumption it wasn't included in the Q1 totals, thats why they PRed the back order seperately.
I also made the assumption because it would contradict their definition in SEC filings as to what is considered REVENUE that can be accounted for in a filing.
I could be wrong, but thats my took from it....
Its simple/safe....do you really think the current market cap of $20million is legit?
They will have revenues in excess of $60 million (that is beyond a low low estimate).
It will take time...things change....but 99% chance a R/S is coming,,,,but who cares.
They are so undervalued it's crazy!
They sold 20 million in Q1 (if you include their back-orders).
Market Cap is 20 million.
I think you as well as anybody here can do that math.
Good Post...I don't know how anybody could think MP would NOT be looking at an R/S?? That would boggle my mind....
Who could fathom that we all have millions of shares....that in itself is a problem.....and part of the reason the PPS won't stabalize and is basically irrelevant at this point.
I'm lost on the part where you say things have pointed to the bad side??
All the PR's that have come out since Jan 2012 have been great! I tend to beleive those.
There has been some bad info, but who was the source, who speculated?
And the recent lack of information (PR's) was expected....maybe NOT wanted, but expected.
Remember PR's are for the public to create exposure, so that we current shareholders will have somebody to sell our investment to, thus allowing us to take a profit.
PR's aren't so this ihub board feels good about themselves....however that would be nice too.
It's the same logic I used yesterday when I said "after the bell....news" because they can and the previous Q is done.
As far as my call for PR on the 4th of July....I'll stick to this guess....It seems like a cheesy thing for these EGO BOOSTER execs to do....relate themselves to the US and they can overcome anything..... I do believe MP is going to make it very soon....July 4th PR just because it would still fit their MO?? wouldn't it??
Anybody wanna wager on PR coming on the 4th?
Well I can't think of anything to wager at this time??
What happened July4th for the U.S? Independence, from control and debt.
What will MSLP annouce on July4th? Independence from control and debt?
Why take a vacation that many were so eager to bash (private jet) right before the end of the Q???especailly since the July 4th is on a Wed. at the begining of the next Q, and virtually nobody is getting work done this week?? Are they working?? What are they prepared to announce?
I can even think of a great reason to go "live" in Berlin... They would be one of the only american companies putting out a PR on the 4th....gets alot of attention that way. And for anybody who is worried it is a place to dump more of the A/S...not happening...
example is (ADR) lets use VALE...look at the price difference vs. VALE and VALE SA (we can't puchase VALE SA unless you contact a broker and have funds in a brokerage that trades on the brasilian exchange.)
I "think" (expect news between now and opening on Thursday).
I also think news will be out July 4th....why all the extra media distribution today?? Its a set-up to get links in line,,,,crawlers for what's to come.
Has the new Board of Directors been assigned?
(and in a perfect world...who and when will they release this info publicly?)
Has the new Exec compensation agreements been finalized?
(and again perfect world...what are they and when will they release?)
Is there a a date for getting off the DTC chill?
Do they have a goal or anticipated time frame to follow through with uplist?
If and when do they anticipate the start of tradinig on the Berlin Exchange?
When do they exepct to receive royalty payments for Apparel?
Do they have any back orders from Q2?
Were they Cash flow positive in Q2?
What about the factory in TN, they are hiring a person for a warehouse job there? Do they own the factory?
Will they be announcing new products at the UFC fan Expo in Las Vegas this weekend?
Why leave these TV and radion stations out?
These never published a PR for MSLP in the past:
CBS8.com
Fox5vegas
KmPh
kcba
kfvs
foxcarolina
kauz
fox44
newscahnnel10
ksfy
JUST to name a "few"....there were plent more than Green Bay...there were places that I even heard of...LOL
All anybody has to do is google search "musclepharm" then use additional search tools (last 24 hours) and the list of reputable news outlets will blow any previous PR's reach out of the water.
PR new wire....PR shmooswire.....Its all about who picks up the feed, but more importantly who redistributes it!
Thanks for agreeing and pointing that out....
It's very interesting how many TV and radio news stations websites have linked up to the latest PR for our Gary....especailly when you look at all those other PR's(the other links you provided)....I could only find a few that are as reputable and get the unique visitors that those TV and radion stations do....which is what I stated as fact.
PR news wires, PR shmooswire.....Its who they feed the info to, and who picks it up!
OK, you got me again....you're right...NOT....LOL
Sorry I don't have the now how to provide the different media links that were used prior to this.
The distribution media links are completely different and more noteworthy sites with a reputation and obtain far more unique visitors than any PR they have ever released in the past.
Oh....and...News after the bell
I dont know if anybody noticed, but maybe this news is bigger than we think??
I have never seen so many media sites PR a company news story....espeically for MSLP.
This Gary story is everywhere....and I mean everywhere....
just google "musclepharm" then select last 24 hours (in search tools)
They have never made this many headlines on any of their previous PR's. Fact.
Before the bell....news.
Guess I shoulda said that, but it was still after the bell as I said (hoped).
Couldn't resist.....I expect more communication in neat future
That was prelims...which obviously were different than actual.
What will be interesting is how many who said show me the proof will wait and buy more as we wait for proof. What's very bodies conspiracy theory going to be if they just file on time....as in done, already done
Fact 1. I based on 60 million not 100 million, and yes based on their debt structure that would be the value....I've learned a thing or 2 about warrants and time. in in actuality it is warrant holders risk....does anybody remember warrant prices? Seems to me they are 100% up from January in pps and warrants price?
Fact 2. Still a fact and respect your play on words on this topic
Fact 3. No insider. My advisor wouldn't touch this stock with someone else's di*k. But they will "call" a value bluff in a second if it's manipulative. Believe me or not....
Dakota, of they only achieve $60 million rev on they year 2012 and were bought out at rev(worst case scenario) out pps would TRIPLE.
And the only other worst case scenario is to lie about everything they did and are planning to do(PRs) all the while continually dilute.....but I have a solution to this worst case scenario:
Fact: brand is worth a minimum of 1x rev in litigation.(meaning price/pps above)
Fact: nobody wants to go to jail
Fact: I have contacts that will ensure......Above facts are facts as that is how I am advised. Fact.
Thanks for coming from behind the curtain to share exactly what I said...if you noticed I stated "no back orders" at the end....as I they must illuminate this loss of revenue and customer base....hence u also posted cash flow positive.....with these 2 things in place....sub .04 will be a pipe dream...in the sense nicer to be seen that low again.....
I am confused though....you seem to agree with me without knowing it?? Yet you trying to teach me something? What are you reaching for or attempting to teach me?
Point of view vs agenda? Yes I guessed from a point of view.
Lots of infotmation is due and they can legally share and will very soon be obligated to share.
Q2 is done....they can talk and expect them to do so....if anything a few people are begging them to hold off just a little bit longer on pr's and buyback, saying "pretty please, we want just a little more"....
And for ihub etiquette reasons all my post are IMO....unless I say fact after the statement.
I have followed this character with all my post in the past.... I have only stated "fact" in my post when I personally know it to be fact.....and will continue to do so
My "gues" is 55 million warrants started today.....slowly but surely pps will rise and and there will be a gradual continual growth. I would also say that eve very price you see everyday is the last time you will see that price.
We will be at .016 by next week...with occasional dip to .0151....but if you flip here...you will only chase it up.
They must buyback now or they are going to be paying 300 to 500% more for shares. This is it.....
Does anybody think this is really going to be under .04 in December? Manage your money and buy all you can with any money you won't need for the next 6 months! Imagine January 2013 and we are waiting for confirmation of no debt and $4 millin in cash flow positive with increased growth domestically and internationally and "no back orders!"
Now somebody tell me how this isn't realistic?
I guess I'm just a bored cheerleader with absolutely no valuable input.....so I came up with this great idea that if I said there was news when ther wasn't then all the bashers would get exited about something to bash,,,,but them there was nothing to bash a there was no news.....
I guess it was a little bit of a let down for the bashers? Sorry if I got you excited?
Lol...just kidding....I'm actually trying to scare people away do I can buy more cheap shares....but I that wre true why would I post this.....
Are we having fun yet?? I'm not as good as some bashers ...yet...I gotta make some templates....like the one use d for " news after the bell"
Do they actually have an ihub post etiquette class? I'd love to take it I they do?
Your right....silly is the perfect word too.
It is interesting that this came from somebody who has been here from the beginning of mslp time and this board, yet they need to put things into context of their liking....wish I had and alter ego too??
Read all my posts...it's there.... Don't have time or patience to hold every bodies hand....
Sorry
Are you serious about this post?? I guess I forgot to take the ihub post etiquette class.....
It seems that you are more interested in descredting my post thatovinf along with the actual information that I posted and expect to hear about in the near future....
Cash flow positive confirmation
No more back orders due to lack of cash
The overall improvemt of cash and relationships that would have to happen for this to occur
International sales
Apparel transparency (which I don't think, but would love for them to share....I have my own theory)
BOD (I think all names we already know)
Code of ethics...statement of new exec compensation
Popularity, new products, increased revenue at all givens and will not change anything
And again, how could "news after the bell" be anything more than a guess?
It seems that certain knowledge is forgotten when it suits an agenda.....
More importantly I know what I was saying....why change the topic from the potential number information that we be available soon, back to whether or not my "news after the bell" was a guess or some super secret inside info I had.....when we all know that is not possible?
Why is this so important to you? If its impossible to know something in this regard
Euc, rumor shumor....who cares....news on the way. Q2 is no longer present, therefore it can be discussed and information CAN be shared without it being considered insider information sharing....
They spoke today....and I completely expect them to communicate in the coming days " news after the bell"
It was a guess. How could it be more than that? I'm not a holder of more than 5% ownership, therefore I will always be last to know something new.
What difference does it make if news comes after the bell today, next Monday, or next month?
The pps is of no significance at this point....like everybody here that is truly a long should be doing....I have been buying weekly and accumulating as warrant holders exercise their rights to buy and sell.
I am anticipating in the near future a pr statement to confirm.
News will be good! How good...I don't know!
Rumor? I'm Not talking about a rumor...I'm just going off their prior PR of their goal to be Cash Flow positive! That isn't a rumor....it was a statement!
I just want to know if they were successful in illiminating back orders, and additionall if they were able to become cash flow positive...
Unsure about this as Turok said they already soldout of their newest product on BB.com.....
Also what products will the be introducing this week at the UFC fan fare event in Vegas??
Most important to me is going black with NO back orders, meaning the have CASH to meet demand!!
And if they were able to revolve an additional $9million ....well lets just say....I'll be really F'n happy!
After the bell....News
Just wait.....news is coming down the grapevine....its on the way!
Follow the thread or be lost. I agree 100% or maybe 500% or maybe 10k%?
Why sell short term warrants? People are always exercising shares essentially already diluted.
25% back order?
Cash flow positive?
Buy back?
Because pps dropped auch for no reason will admit u have 1.5 millin tI sell at .023.
We are only trading. .005% of OS, don't be fooled, but very day or every week. until the kaboom!
Heres a difference: problems are due to cash flow (existing problem) , not we hope to have sales that Mach our belief on company.
They are finally selling as much as they hoped if not more. They have back orders and doing a buyback at the same time.
What else can we ask for?
Justlovthegame, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert investor or trader by any means, but I will stand with knowledge base on busineess with a more specific base in time managent.
Taxes huh? Profit huh? Is that based on experience or something we heard?
Anybody with experience can say each market provides its own risk, opportunity, meaning profit margin and taxes.
I don't think it's fair imply that experience. Remember that hey had a 25% gross back order....at 22% margin; how mug cash are they short for they next q? I think the pps is hurting because the issue warrants at prices (short term) to cover these cost....and at some point they had to give more than wanted to get financing at better rates than they have been offered. That to me equals profit, cash flow positive, limited long term debt, and cash to buyback.
I would love tI hear arguments that do NoT involve "historical" reference.....someone telle evidence from the last 5 months, and do NoT use PPS as it I up over a 100% since January....I don't want to hear it was higher. It's holding .015! Double! Look at PRs and 25% back order with only short term warrants issued!
Euc, that's the point, you said it yourself without realizing it.....the volume is so low that even I have 75% of the avg daily volume alone....his board could hold the pps down for weeks maybe months.
Point is don't be fooled by the daily PpS it is .02 % of shares and you know some thr by are the same that sold.
By my estimate only .005% of os is really changing hand on a daily basis....yet the pps moves.... Not buying it....games be played...but I don't have the experience to know what game and who actually holds the cards
Remember 25% of their gross or 33% depending on how you look at it was back order.
Would shareholders here be upset if they sold the shares they bought last q(remember they bought "and" retired shares last q) so they could use cash to illuminate backs orders?
Did they realize they can't the financing rates they want in the near future so they decided to cancel some shares to improve structure and bought more so that if need they can sell shares for cash to get rid of any future back orders that may occur (I'll say it again they already had a 25% of total gross was back ordered) with their rapid growth. I think they just their next year or 2 with out having finance rates they didn't think we're good enough or fit their model.....obviously this is based on them knowing the pps will greatly increase in the near future and will them continue to do so as operations improve
Essentially this is the best in house finance new you can get!
That right there is one of the main reasons I feel safe here....they do Not want to go to jail....and well we all know without saying it again....one wrong step wil give them a go direct to jail card
From a Professional view I think I have a legit theory "theory"....
This exchange like the A/S increase was a back-up plan to them saying we know we can make the next step....problem is back order! And if you claim you have a back order for 25% of your gross....
2 things happening:
A. You don't have cash on hand and are waiting for check to arrive from previous order so they can pay supplier to make next batch....that losing income and possibly reputation for filling clients needs. Good problem to have ....if there is an answer? That is fiscally responsible?(imagine a 90 produce to sold days, but a 60 day get paid date?) therefore they are not using any financing and are simply believing they can make this go by being cash flow positive and balancing books.
B. similar to above, but they are confident in their big picture and are preferring to use minimal investors as they do not want to give uP more of their company....they are being picky about the terms and whom they are going to bed with! At this point they believe it is adventagous to move our pps for the short term....how much $ changed hands recently compared to pump in April? What date did q2 start? How much volume April 1,2,3??
I think taking $50k fro investors to keep our financing "in-house" could be worth it
I don't think so.... Not sure....but from my interpitation you can NOT short a stock in any way this exchange.
Maybe I read wrong too....
My only original worry was they dump the a/s there ...but like I said ......I think they might end up 6 feet under due to their own products side effect....raging investors who will take it out on them.
From a Professional view I think I have a legit theory "theory"....
This exchange like the A/S increase was a back-up plan to them saying we know we can make the next step....problem is back order! And if you claim you have a back order for 25% of your gross....
2 things happening:
A. You don't have cash on hand and are waiting for check to arrive from previous order so they can pay supplier to make next batch....that losing income and possibly reputation for filling clients needs. Good problem to have ....if there is an answer? That is fiscally responsible?(imagine a 90 produce to sold days, but a 60 day get paid date?) therefore they are not using any financing and are simply believing they can make this go by being cash flow positive and balancing books.
B. similar to above, but they are confident in their big picture and are preferring to use minimal investors as they do not want to give uP more of their company....they are being picky about the terms and whom they are going to bed with! At this point they believe it is adventagous to move our pps for the short term....how much $ changed hands recently compared to pump in April? What date did q2 start? How much volume April 1,2,3??
I think taking $50k fro investors to keep our financing "in-house" could be worth it