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If the notarized document you say Finra needed is the WY SOS Articles of Amendment for the name change (which I believe it is), we know that it couldn't have been sent before early May, since it did not exist before then:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132092199
If it wasn't sent until the WY SOS File date of 5/8/2017, we are are not long overdue for the ticker and name change.
JB&ZJMY
Wang Group owns more than that.
I believe Floridany has stated that Wang Dequn owns/jointly owns well north of 40 companies. Here are some of his posts on the subject:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=130141885
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=129710045
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=129782676
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=129885497
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131338496
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131773126
Here is my post showing Wang owns (has his hand in) 57 companies.
Snug,
You missed a few.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131966533
We are on the same page there. I just posted the same thoughts a bit earlier. The file date was 5/8/2017. The name change amendment date was 5/3/2017.
It was adopted on 3/2/2017. Roger (Company Lawyer) told me that date refers to the date it was adopted by the company board (I talked to him a week or so ago.
3/2/17 - Name change adopted by company
4/24/17 - Signed by Wang Dequn
5/1/17 - Received by Wyoming SOS
5/3/17 - New name amended by WY SOS
5/8/17 - Filed by WY SOS
My best guess is it was sent to Finra for name and ticker change request on or around 5/3/2017, but not before then.
Here is my earlier post on the subject:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132086257
It does beg the question: Why is it still on their website if it is not an active investment source?
I posted it on 5/26/2017. It was posted long before that by Floridany as well.
Not exactly up on their website if it is no longer valid. Site looks the same as when I posted it though.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131710532
That is different from when I posted it awhile ago. It has the A9 phone on there too. I think it is an active investment fund now I look at it again.
Yes, Floridany and others have covered this. It was said that they think this source of investment was no longer active or required since JinBo or CIC would provide the funding.
I posted it a few weeks ago and it had already been covered. I still wonder why they haven't removed ZJMY from their website though. Seems odd to me.
I think the take away is the projected revenue of over 10% annually!
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131055182
Loved your recent string of bold posts. The bold helps to assuage people I think. LMBO.
I still think Finra is not "long overdue" as many on the board suggest. The articles of amendment for name change on WY SOS has the new name amended on 5/3/17 and a file date of 5/8/17. Yes we're approaching the overdue list but not quite there yet imo.
No one knows for sure (to my knowledge) when Finra was notified for the name and ticker change request. I believe it was somewhere in early May but not before when the name change was amended in WY. I think others have mentioned a date in late April, and some use the PR release date in early April.
I do agree that Finra is taking a close look at Jin Bo and the bigger picture. Let's bring all our players to the huddle.
Ticker change likely before Press Conference, but ultimately will not stop pps increase if it is still DOLV after the Conference.
https://wyobiz.wy.gov/business/FilingDetails.aspx?eFNum=217161243108068011203050228075228024036162237117
Great call on that and I agree completely.
I know Chery already is the leading exporter of passenger cars. Chery exported about 25% of their total production in 2011. Why wouldn't ZJMY follow suit. Good for ZJMY, good for Chery. ZJMY strives for win-win scenarios.
http://www.cheryjaguarlandrover.com/pc_static/company/about-chery_en.php
If the market in China wasn't big enough...Wow!
JB&ZJMY Press Conference My take (all IMO):
I know this is speculation, but sometimes I like to speculate.
What I think will be in the Press Conference:
1 - Enough news to ensure that the stock price will be above 15 cents in July. The company will not let it be below their employee warrant pricing. There will be enough news to get their employees interested in buying the employee shares as well.
2 - I think the news will cover the different models they are working on and the direction they are heading. More specifically:
A - Low Speed electric vehicle (already debuted and on sale). They will have a give away of one or more of these.
B - The much anticipated SUV news. I think we will finally see the SUV with a "Z" symbol. I think the 100,000 order will be confirmed again. Possibly other orders will be stated (Remember, the official launch is slated for July).
C - I think there will be some news/plans for the taxi market. Maybe even some talk about police cars too.
D - They will say more about the electric buses and state some potential trends in that market, city/ school buses.
E - They may mention their plans to sell electric motorcycles (I'm less confident on this one).
F - I think they will announce more battery swap stations and give an overview of the battery technology as compared to the competitors (Remember this is a publicity conference for the government officials that will be attending). They will cite awards, patents and other pertinent information on the technology (not in great detail, since it's only an hour long).
BREAK
G - Second part of Press Conference will cover the other companies of Jin Bo. Internet, Ecommerce, A9 phone (shake the tree) with POS feature (point of sale), Hua mobile payment, Amoy mall, ect...
H - There will be a bunch of information here, including recent awards and/or patents, government support ect.
I - There will be information on new energy (EVs) how they will fit in with the Ecommerce side and other companies.
J - There will be much more, but we will have to wait and see.
I do Not think they will reveal what other companies will come into the fold with JB&ZJMY. That will be in an official press release probably in July. I still think that the A9 phone will be part of the packaged deal.
DOLV...ZJMY...Wang Group...JB&ZJMY.....Jin Bo
It keeps getting bigger!
Will you hold for the epic gains, or sell out like one of my acquaintances because you succumb to fear.
Never make financial decisions out of Fear imo!
Just like a golf cart has switch for Reverse-Nuetral-Drive. No gears obviously. Push pedal, electric motor turns faster. No shifting. BTW, inorout, electric golf carts have keys too.
inorout, maybe that's a gas cap on the right side....or it may just be a charge port. This is rather complicated stuff.
http://www.mychnyx.com/web/mall_detail.html#?id=107
These puppies are going to sell like hot cakes!!!
Some of them could be added to the dolv ihub box as well imo, including the EV picture from Floridany's stickied post about the press conference (the one with red ribbons and the A9 on the hoods).
Something Good, I missed some posts and would like to know where those pictures came from too.
I'm with you on that one. They're like peanut butter and jelly, but not really, cuz they're phones and cars and worth a lot more than PB&J.
I'm still convinced that the A9 phone has the same battery technology as the EVs. I'm holding to that until proven otherwise.
We may get a 7 course meal with Jin Bo. Hope you're hungry.
Gotta love big papa Jin Bo!
Nothing much new. I found some interesting stuff last night on the tianyancha site, but Floridany has covered most of that before.
I mostly search google or similar but plug in the words in Chinese.
I find something I think is new, post it, and then read that Floridany has already posted it before...like in March LOL.
I have read all his posts, I just forget some info sometimes, since there is so much.
Something good. I can't PM. But we are on the same page.
It's reassuring that activity is taking place on the ZMJY site.
I noticed the experience center video changed last week. I need to stash some pictures of things to prove the changes.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems the website has changed slightly again.
600 KM DRIVE RANGE
It doesn't mention the SUV model specifically now in the photo banner(I'm sure it did before with range of 500 km), just lists the ZJMY V3, which must be a general blanket term for all their V3 models.
I copied the SUV model many times from the photo banner to search on google, so I'm pretty sure it has changed.
http://zhongjimingyang.com/index_en.html#page1
I really like your opinions. They make a lot of sense.
Definitely will need a standard blue print for the charge stations. I read articles where China wants to build tens of thousands of them across the country. That has Franchise written all over it.
That's a good call on that one. You are probably right on the target there as always.
LOL. Wishful thinking I guess. The more you dig the more you find.
It's like metal detecting on a Chinese beach in an affluent area.
Sleep well DOLV
Definitely think this company is coming in with ZJMY imo:
JB&ZJMY Motor Trading Co.
http://www.tianyancha.com/company/3048121620
Lots of info on the Tianyancha site. May have him/her peruse through to see if there is anything interesting.
See my recent posts.
http://www.tianyancha.com/company/858015638
Wang Dequn 57 Companies
You have to be a member and sign in to see the list, so I can't see the whole list.
http://www.tianyancha.com/human/2070536351-c2322550568
Wang Partners
Zeng Wenjing
Guo Feng
Shi Zhenting
Wan Haiyan
Liu Liugan
ZJMY information overload from Tianyancha site.
Lots of information. Do some reading.
http://www.tianyancha.com/company/858015638
Business Description:
Controlling Interest
2016 ZJMY Annual Report
http://www.tianyancha.com/reportContent/858015638/2016
We will find out the money soon!
Interesting: JB&ZJMY Motor Trading Co. Should be part of the deal.
JB&ZJMY Motor Trading Company was registered in 2013 but has recent changes: read on.
ZJMY
JB&ZJMY Motor Trading Co. Business Description:
Appears to be a wholesale trade company. I think this will definitely be part of the merger. No question imo.
http://www.tianyancha.com/company/3048121620
Lots of info on this site. Will post more about ZJMY soon.
JB&ZJMY Trading Co. change record:
Mentions Wang Group
Note: they added auto sales and auto parts to this company when it changed on 3/29/2017 (operational period 3/25/2013 to 3/24/2033.
Up to 45 Jobs listed on the Tianyancha site. There were 33 when I posted them the other day. The 12 new listings show a release date of 6/5/2017 and a deadline of 7/5/2017.
Thanks Floridany for your finds. Wondering what you think about the Tianyancha site and if "a few people" is a valid translation of the Chinese for number of recruits. It even says "A few people" for the Investment Director position. Seems odd that you would need several Investment directors (especially at those wages) but maybe the more the merrier.
Investment Director
This site seems more detailed on the job postings than some of the others I've seen, even listing height requirements for the car salesman jobs that were closed in April.
Here is a link to my earlier post about Jobs:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131877596
Most of them show "several people" for number or recruits. We may be up to a couple hundred new employees from April to July. Quickly approaching a quarter million (USD) or more in monthly wages for all the new and soon to be new employees since April (That's an estimate, you can go through and add them up if you have the time).
http://bj.tianyancha.com/search/t300?key=%E4%B8%AD%E7%A8%B7%E9%93%AD%E6%B4%8B
Bus
The new employees are going to be clamoring for the employee share pricing.
I'm a bit skeptical on those types of things. Just wondering if he saw one random 911 or a bunch. I know one day we saw some 911s awhile ago, there was a decent spike the next trading day. Can't remember if that one correlated to the business description change or something else. Obviously could have been a coincidence as well.
What codes did you see? 911s? Just curious. Don't follow level 2 trading much.
No, confirmation by Jinbo of the original order. Seemed to have more details. It appears to be the compact SUV. See my posts from yesterday.
I posted a summary on that article yesterday. Found it from another post mentioning a link on the Jinbo site to ZJMY. Nothing mystic going on here. If a person is willing to look they will find.
Well said and Agree. From the JinBo article the Suv's are already in mass production. Even says "now" twice so there's no doubt. LOL
From my earlier post:
It's nice of Chery to do a pilot test of the car bodies for ZJMY. I wonder what will happen if no one buys the gas guzzlers once the ZJMY EV versions of the Chery Kay Wing V3 are for sale. I guess Chery won't mind, since they would be making more SUV bodies for ZJMY.
In terms of flexibility it is another advantage since Chery already has a 7 seat model and 5 seat model of the V3 SUVs.
Check the DD. Chery is making the car bodies and chassis for JB&ZJMY.
ZJMY will provide the electric motors, batteries and related tech imo. However, ZJMY will be selling the EVs. You can look at Chery as a supplier.
As Floridany suggested, they may use several other manufacturers/ suppliers for parts and for the different models.
Found it. It appears the Qi Ruikai wing v3 is a compact 7 seat version of the Chery Kay Wing V3. It also appears to be more aerodynamic in shape.
Chery released the gas version on August 8, 2016.
Looks like a good model to use for ZJMY given the shape.
http://www.gouchezj.com/news/20165/1918.html
It appears the 100,000 order refers to this model:
Qi Ruikai wing V3 sounds like a different model than the Chery Kay wing SUV imo. It sounds like it is geared more for network users, like a taxi or police car. SUV taxis or police cars would be great too though.
You can read the google translation and decide for yourself. Maybe it translated Chery Kay as Qi Ruikai in error. Seems unlikely though since the parts of the article talking about the SUV were all consistently translated "Chery Kay."
I know there was some talk about Didi being the one to sign the intention to order, and maybe another company too. I'll have to check back in Bob's DD compilation to see if it was indeed the same company JinBo's article states.
I don't recall it mentioning the model of the car they intended to order either: The Qi Ruikai wing V3. One of the longs can correct me if that was already known. I'll have to look back to the DD for that as well.
The article is just under the battery swap video from your post.
It did mention the three swap stations going up in Tianjin, Henan, and Wuhu as models, which has been covered in the DD.
What I like most about it is that JinBo is doing some advertising for their company ZJMY. They are taking ownership. They will not let their favorite child(imo) fail.
It is going to be great synergy moving forward between the JinBo Groups different companies, as we have already seen (JinBo's A9 phone on the side of the cars at the annual meeting). Or as some believe, they may roll the whole lot into ZJMY.
JB&ZJMY
Maybe JinBo just updated the old story. Not sure.
It is pretty information dense on everything the DD has been saying.
The SUV article posted by JinBo is new to me. Pretty important find Frozenbravo! This article may be rehashing old articles, but it's good to see Jinbo's spin on it.
The Key Points:
1 - It confirms that they have the longest range and are listed as such on the Ministry of Industry's and new energy car's directories.
2 - It verifies the SUVs are in mass production.
3 - It states the range of 500 km journey and 640 km at constant speed of 60 km/hr.
4 - It confirms they will hit the market in July.
5 - It states they will sale for 200,000 yuan after 88,000 in subsidies (State and local matching at 44,000 each).
5 - It states manufacturers promise lifetime battery warranty.
6 - It restates the 100,000 order by Mouwang domestic car company for the Qi Ruikai wing V3.
7 - Last but not least: Jinbo is taking ownership of the car, calling it their baby. See Title.
8 - Almost forgot the obvious, Chery is going to make the body and chassis.
http://wz.3cjz.cn/baorun/wap_doc/4216852.html
100,000 order
Thanks for your great posts. I particularly like the picture collages at the bottom of your posts.
I would change #20 on the list to Low Speed EVs. As I understand from Floridany's post, they are not the taxis on the trailer. I don't know if we've seen the taxis yet. They may be the brown car model in ibox with the different grill.
All the EV pics with the Z symbol in the ibox all look to be the low speed EVs (except the brown one). They are listed on the JB site Hawk mentioned for about $5000 USD.
Floridany's post on low speed EVs.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131612467
It seems they are holding back pics of the taxis, police cars, SUVs,and buses for the grand reveal! Not one SUV pic yet with a Z symbol.