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This is the only stock I own that I have to check satellite images of the Ik to see if the land they bought is still there. The only stock I have to hire a expert in facial expressions to review LP's videos. The only stock that I have to hire a linguistic expert to translate every utterance she makes during her speeches. I am desperate for news like everybody else yet I need to consult with so many others to be sure of what I am reading. The only stock that I have to check if what is announced is true.
I don't have to do this with Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Gopro, etc.
Very frustrating.
I am tired of waiting, tired of hearing hearsay and reading LP's mind.
LP is a freakin lawyer, worked for one of the biggest corps in the world not incl the gov't so she knows of what I am speaking about. Don't diminish my concerns or wants. Nothing should stand in the way of solid and clear communication....how often do we get that is we get it.
Austin is now the only member here who is truly fair and balanced. He only wants to see this public company run like most. Most here want to give LP passes because the object is a cure for cancer and she bought the company on the cheap i.e. saved it like most here spin it. Bottomline we shareholders should be treated as such and not in the dark.
you can't have it both ways, you can only spin news to the good and then never give an update or confirmation of that news.'But I am sure I will get blasted by all the followers here.
Bottomline is that Austin isn't asking for anything outrageous or out of the norm, he is only asking for what is typically business as usual for pubic camping.
I am long yes but not stupid.
Agreed but what if LP is great at taking the company's product to fruition but bad at managing the day to day stock wars. What if due to her what must be extreme paranoia by now feels it best to only hire friends and family and remain solely in control in order to weather any impending storms. What if she is great at the first goal but lousy at the latter?
Agreed but did you ever think that NWBO might be using this negative environment to their advantage in keeping things close to their vest to.
Cherry,
but you already know they won't so why wish anymore. Just accept the SEC is in bed with what is wrong with the market. Like having the wolf guarding the chicken coop. Next.
Austin,
I am glad you are hear, you are 100% correct, your questions are valid. If these questions were moot we probably wouldn't be in the position that we are in today.
IMHO mgmt chose to play chess, chose not to answer these questions and left themselves wide open. Not taking anything away from the science, I believe it is intact and will succeed but just getting to the finish line would have been different if mgmt chose a different plan/path on what to say and what not to say.
Look the average joe shmoe that invest , who isn't reading what this site has to offer will be scared chitless when he peruses SA. That is why I was shocked that Schnauz sold after reading the hit cheat.
Few shareholders are that well informed as are found here but we have to expect the ave joe will get frightened that he/she will lose everything as they opt out. So the shorter are going to win every time until NWBO releases what they can when they can, no two ways about it. Will it happen next week with
Dr Subiah papers, well it could. It would also be great if the FDA completes their side too and everything happens more or less around the same time frame. But I can't help but wince that when Dr Subiah's papers are made public the shorts will rip apart every word once again, Schnauz will sell more, Tutle will freak out, Steponwolf will say I sold you so, Coehoeman will twist it around and Beachy will blast LP and Austin will explain it all away. So until NWBO makes some money the naysayers will have something to talk about.........boy does AF have it easy.:(
Why does it seem that what ever K writes is laced with a titled version of reality. He professes to be an expert in things stock.bio and yet it is typically slanted against NWBO and often incorrect to some degree. IMHO he seems to be a master manipulator of facts often twisting meanings on a daily basis.
Sh1's sell based upon reading V's hit piece is a wonderful example of how a supposed long member here can be so easily influenced....one can easily extrapolate how it could effect others outside of our arena who are less knowledgeable.
Now that would be one way pf looking at it but I have mistrusted Sh1 since day one, today imho he outed himself by lending credence to the hit piece. Afterall did he have to say anything about his sale....nope. In fact he raised it to a more legit level imho, or at least he tried. I mean come on with everything that we have read and spoken about here can anyone else sell due to the article's publication?
Sh1 you just were put on my ignore list, thanks for the outing.
Austin,
absolutely true, all one needs is a credit card to charge or an e check possibly ignored to pay the $30-$300, i don't remember. Obviously an email address and a name and that is about it. gain it is all over the phone, over in minutes.....paperless but with a tiny trail as you mentioned.
But remember to go after somebody and supine said records from the cc company and Godaddy is time consuming and expensive attorney wise and will probably never happen so the risk is probably worth it in their eyes. Is this not the same risk that AF navigates with each hit piece and he is a known entity while these guys are doing the exact same thing secretively.
Agreed, you can't ride the coat tails of Cognate saved the company forever and at the same time they receive the most lucrative contracts with NWBO imaginable. I believe it continues simple because they have done so before and they still can now.
Tutle,
amazing you can twist what I wrote. I didn't say that the info cannot be released to the parties involved if a lawsuit were to be fixed. I said the info would be worthless since whatever Godaddy has can all be meaningless info. Have you started a Godaddy account, I did and I know that if you want to give phony info or hide oneself from the public it would be incredibly simple.
If anyone thinks that Godaddy will provide info to lawyers in the even the hit piece maker should get sued is dreaming. I have a Godaddy account, it takes nothing to form one since the requirements are simplistic and if the hack wanted to remain hidden there will be little info to find him via what he/she gave up to start a Godaddy account.
Beach,you always slip in a personal attack, but that is ok I have thick skin.
I am long NWBO but am sick of the repeat bashings that occur here on a daily basis. I thought it would be nice if Flipper answered the question since a few brought up these issues again today for the 600th time. Thanks Beach for your partial attempt at a n answer but I rather have Flip even with his possible rolling eyes.
Flipper,
I consider you the most knowledgable member and would like to know the following, what does NWBO need to do/report in order to act like a real listed company? I understand that due to shorter certain items need to be kept close to the vest, but what are the basic facts that NWBO needs to let out in order to make it act like a more legit business.
Thank you
Austin,
I respect your biotech knowledge and your constant questioning of NWBO and not being a cheerleader. However that being said real estate developer you are not. The fact that they have expenses associated with the new property is a good sign in that it means that something is going on with it, which is what you would expect for a new real estate development. You don't need to rip this apart because when you buy a piece of land with existing infrastructure you will have expenses against it since an architect must be hired and design concepts and the resulting plans must be drawn up, submissions to the City building and planning dept must be performed. Later approvals from the city and other gov't agencies must be obtained, this will take probably 1 year before ground breaking. I assume the property is being taken care of and abatement program has begun.
What we do need to see i order to verify anything is satellite images each month.
This site is going down hill with the multiple posts by Tutle imho. Can someone tell him to limit his posts, he knows led than I do and that is what is very concerning. He adds nothing to the table t=other than "Go NWBO" or "THX Flip" or "Does anyone know anything". Sees what a piece of work. Soon he will be selling it all and joining the ranks of the shorter, you just wait and see.
What does AF know?
Would he tweet that NWBO will break out in the very near future?
He is doing what he normally does, you should expect it and not believe it and spread it.
I agree with the premise of NWDR's scenario, and as usual I agree with Flip's sightings.
I firmly believe negative Koman is here for one reason and not the reason he gives daily (his own DD), to add uncertainty to everything said, to question and turn everything upside down in the negative. He comes off as an expert in all things and is an eloquent and convincing writer and that is why he is here. What other reason would he waste all his time writing here if not to accomplish something.
Most here say NW threw the latest $30M in because he wanted to or he had too. I rather ask and note why he threw all the millions before into the kitty, this last anti up is a drop in the bucket, I rather focus on the big money. But now another strong factor, he has arranged financing with his friends, so now he is risking their monies which will be large too. Why act like a Baker Bro. if he is in the dark, why risk so much knowing so little?
Think about this, he is a general overseeing his troops in the UK, he can send out his troops in the bio tech world in the UK rather steathly and easily because of his connections and his loyal troops. They could spy on the new facility, spy on the patients, and the doctors and the labs and the hospitals etc. He could validate all things. He specializes in biotech and if he wants info he might not even need a sit down with LP. However that being said sitting down with LP has to have its benefits.
Do you think that he was forced to throw good money after bad to protect his investment, if so just remember what ever motivated him to invest all the prior millions over most of 2015 and get long term financing solved via his buddies eliminates a great deal of risk. Knowing what is being achieved through his troops
Mission Impossible assignments will confirm whatever he is being told via meetings with LP. You think we do DD, his is going on during real time and right there where the action is. He may know things before LP does with his biotech connections, who knows.
The bottomline is that NW's DD kills everyone else's, we should just equate him to the Baker Bros and realize that just because we closed below $5 today doesn't mean anything because eventually we will be $105 and all this will be forgotten. I don't need a crystal ball when I have NW.
You all are missing another big picture!
So NW invests $30M more nearing 30% ownership of NWBO. He must have a very close relationship will LP and this had to have been planned imho. Make no mistake about it, he wouldn't throw $30M if he wasn't sure. But now the second part of the PR talks about the new corporate financing firm that they will do business with named Ondra Partners. Do you think making such an announcement is giving any valuable info or just a bunch of bs and name dropping? Do you think this company's new relationship with NWBO stems from LP or NW. Do you thing it is important to NWBO's future?
If it stems from NW than that is huge because it would mean that NW set the future financing up. Well I did a little bit of research and NW also has a strong relationship with the London based ( with offices in NYC) M & A (Mergers & Acquisitions) Advisory Boutique in corporate financing, Ondra Partners too. So one can assume that NW knew that Ondra Partners would give MWBO the financing necessary to take them to the next level. Therefore this $30M quickie was safe and sound and of course smart by NW.
IMHO NWBO is in very good hands with NW and if you were confident before yesterday you should be high fiving tomorrow because this all means that financing will not be an issue and that is why NWBO is just sitting and waiting and not sweating it. This is as important as the wonderful science to come out of this company and nothing cans stand in its way! GO NWBO, gee I always wanted to say that;)
And I am soooo excited for our Turtle, too bad you couldn't flip flop back days ago when you sold your shares at a loss. Glad to see you are back on board at least for today LOL.
Sent,
what I read was stated here, the NW said he spoke with mgmt. and all Is fine, something along those lines.
TC,
LOL.
I am telling you "S"="P".
They live in front ofcomputer thinking everything can be learned.
Mav,
I believe you are interpreting the clause like a green investor rather than with your businessman hat on. The word "intention" was used, having no intention of investing is not the same as a definitive no. Then the next sentence says but will use derivatives to hedge against currency risk. So they will use it for certain issues. In business I use intent when I don't want to commit definitively, it is a way to leave the door open. And the fact that they admit to using it in other circumstance opens the door widely. Think about it.
Agreed except for the part with signing the nondisclosure agreement, since didn't NW blog that there was no problem with the halt, therefore he effectively was soothed by LP and went on to soothe the public.
Why don't you tell us?
TC Trade,
please be more careful in your announcements. It is obvious that you cannot know what Woody is doing until quarterlies come out, and what you are looking at is obviously old info that your are manipulating for what I don't know. I know you are long, but long and accurate goes a long way here.
Per YMB some brain cancer study I assume related to nwbo was updated on 10/6/2015?
What me worry?
We know that anything material must be reported to shareholders in a PR. No PR thus nothing negative that is material.
If NWBO is working on something that will be material once achieved would you as a company that has been raked though the coals by AF & Co, by traders, by certain inside individuals that you wouldn't expect like Dr Buzzdariah and certain individuals on the boards release material positive info prematurely or wait until you have it in hand and no one can screw yah.
I WOULD WAIT UNTIL ALL DUCKS ARE IN A ROW.
So stop sweating the small stuff and you all know who I am talking to.
Flip,
can you please put what you found out and what you believe to be true into a layman's English so idiots like me can understand what you found out and believe. And separate out what you found out from what you believe even more so.
thanks
the village idiot who wants it to be perfectly clear;)
Schnauz,
you came here on 9/1/15 purporting to be an attorney and investor. For practically every post your knowledge was general and in regards to trading stocks. But that has changed, now you are an expert in the science of immunology more importantly NWBO's products. How can this be unless you are an alt, and I might suggest an alt of Pyrr or the likes. Anyone else here sees the forest thru the trees. Please look at the posts written and the timing. This board promotes this sort of stuff, I can;'t wait until he starts arguing with Flip against the science, stay tuned.
It appears Pyrr err I mean shnauzer wasn't more deliberate and take his time with his new persona before his expertise came out.
It was fascinating to watch how long it would take for the transformation to occur.
Double that estimate.
But who can trust what you say since last week you said it would be $3-$5. Remember bip.
Beach,
thanks for the update, but truthfully that is only half the story.
the number of shares traded would be the other as important info. what if there was no volume, how insignificant would that be.....are we pumping now?
Agree with what you wrote but you are still leaving out the PR, no group of attorneys in the right mind would write something like that and knowingly make it ambiguous ie where it could be interpreted in many ways unless it was "good" for multiple ways. Trust me, attorneys and a group of them want to minimize problems, if it is vague and possibly meaning different things , it was written purposely that way. So where most try to minimize and analyze it to mean one or the other, I say it is covering both and you know what that means.....that it is even better than what most here understand.
So NWBO's immediate PR once suspension or whatever one calls it was made public whereby LP made clear there were forces trying to turn good news into bad news was not a good enough hint for you. I realize that many have tried to thoroughly analyze it to their best efforts but I you just take it for what it is and knowing a group of attorney's wrote it and agreed to release it to the public maybe one should just read it for what it says and not try to analyze it to death afterall they didn't spend inordinate amounts of times writing if you review the timing of it all. But it states very clearly and succinctly and quickly that all is good!.
Is this not exactly what you were/are asking for yet it is right in front of your nose and you ignore/avoid it due to your insecurity with the past. It is there, exactly as you have requested, listen to it.
Turtle,
Fact: you and I are replaceable. While Flip & Senti are irreplaceable, and don't forget this important fact!
Here is my own dilemma, if Flip only spouts positive inquiry and resolution and Koman & Austinmediainc only negative then whom do you believe. It feels that both have agendas since they see things only one way.
so their arguments which are fascinating seem never ending and I can never tell who wins the arguments but I appreciate all of them nevertheless.
I just wish I wasn't so stupid in bio, kind of wish I never got in.
But I have to say this, it seemed like in the past if there was anything that could be spun positive LP would make sure the tidbit came out, that I believed was her MO. Now I do understand when her hands are tied by rules & laws but I really don't ever remember her saying anything remotely negative ever and only positive. So now while we wait I wonder how is it possible that nothing can be spun positively here without breaking any rules just like she did before even with the Adams lurking. And if that damage control PR where she did say something is positive that the Adams of the industry are trying to turn around is all she can write, one has to admit that is pretty weak.
My other concern is her education, she has held high stations in many a varied and elevated post, she learned to also survive some tough times prior to acquiring NWBO so as experienced as she has to be she is also knows all the games that can be played and it appears she has made sure that she is completely bullet proof either way this slides and that concerns me to a degree although it also shows her ingenuity but can also be interpreted as showing her savvy.
I guess what I am trying to say is that she is a lot smarter than me, has protected her interests to the nth degree and the only area that she has let flounder is the pps or my interests up until now and that makes me feel pretty queasy since I just bumbed up my holdings to $30k shares and can't AFFORD to lose it all;)
Thus my dilemma. It is hard to trust someone so smart if you know what I mean. Her level of expertise and experience are like double edged swords, it can save you as well as hurt you.
Lets just hope it is as Flip says, but after every positive member has either left or changed their minds other than Flip and a couple of others, I am feeling pretty weak these days.
Flip is predicting and being pro-company and while it is what I want to hear his is the lone voice and I just can't tell if it is the voice or reason or one of an agenda. I also like Flip the best, so level headed and likeable almost too good to be true but I have been burnt before. All I do these days is imagine if he weren't here or flipped then where would we be? More importantly where would Turtle be?;)
Seriously Turtle, after investing in NWBO for 2 years and reading everyone's posts including Ready's you are coming to that conclusion now. Wait I will give you a few moments to change your mind/personality and do your famous flipflop where You will deny you just agreed with Ready's words of wisdom. LOL
Please change your name from "Turtle" to something like "alterego" for accuracy and to act as a warning for anyone mistakenly reading your posts.
Oh I forgot to sign off as eloquently as Turtle does "GO NWBO".
Turtle,
I really hope you keep your word and don't come on here daily. how about checking in once a month or so.
Between you tearing down mgmt. and every product they have to you in the next breadth cheering " GO NWBO" and then asking questions on just about everything ie acting like you know nothing and you are a newbee to telling everyone here what they should know about the trials and what is in LP's mind and that you have been invested for over 2 years....which is it man.
Bottomline is you don't own $65k shares but if you want to make us believe it go right along.
I have never seen a flipflopper switch his flip flops since Sec Carey ran for President.
Please keep your promise, please ;)