Interesting
surprisingly low wind speed.
Todays temp @ 20000m over Stuttgart -64.2 C = -115.6 F, 250/21 knot
http://weather.uwyo.edu/upperair/sounding.html
Station Number: 10739
Nice site to go along with this one. oldie but goodie
http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/archive/jet_atl_arch.html

SWAMI found site with PEM 60% eff. 68% with turbo. Waste heat nic.

Wonder if a Material Definitive Agreement with Proton is next?

But which proton? Both going into production.

Proton Power Systems Stuttgart
or
Proton Energy Systems, Inc. Our old buddies, bought out by Distributed Energy Systems Corporation, now in partnership with Morgan Stanley, and just received two military contracts.

Still need a $179,438 by year end.

Ketch Batteries in this instance are used for ride through power,
for power disturbances caused by voltage fluctuations. Not many Kw needed.

Different ships need Different engines.

"ready patented energy storage and propulsion systems for high altitude testing."

Long duration High alt. airships require engines that swivel so that you can position airship to capture 1,275 watts per square meter of radiant energy.

A test to 65000' doesn't require this.

Thanks for trying. some day you might win.

Ketch as far as batt. rover on Mars still working in similar temps.

S1, I agree with later for the strat but could be soon for the medium and low fliers.

The following is still there
Constructed Airships - Several platforms ready for demonstrations including a Stratospheric airship test planned during 2008.

http://www.sanswiretao.com/sanswire-tao-benefit.htm

BamBam Use to know your farther
Barney, he was a character too.

BamBam Where did you come from?

308 is payable in cash got it eom

mide 750K owed I see 870 owed
$418,000 pd
$144,000 pd
Leaving $308,000 payable in 3,080,000 shares.

Wrong or right?

BBB what do you think of this
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=33478528

Starting today, broker-dealers that handle customer limit orders in OTC equities, whether received from their own customers or from another member firm, cannot trade ahead of customer limit orders. This means that a firm cannot trade for its own account at a price equal to or better than a customer limit order without also executing the customer order.

From this day on I have seen a change in trading.

Merlin World's highest rate water electrolysis apparatus
http://www.doppstein.com/
See White paper, April, 93% efficiency, 42kw/kg.

I've been looking for lightweight PEM products for a long time, have you seen any?

Also I don't think a test run delay has anything to do with these missing components.

Elbit and UAV's mentioned in this article,
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1226404751066&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

makes me think of this
Globetel/Sanswire Teams up with Elisra Electronic Systems to Create Integrated Airship Solutions
http://news.thomasnet.com/companystory/526287

low temperatures effect on the articulating joints.

I can tell you that steel becomes brittle at -40F and the temperate at the target altitude is around -70F.

You Obviously Have know clue how their airship is put together.

Two football fields + 4 end zones and 31 feet left over.
geometrical data:
Length: 232m = 761.2'
maximal diameter: 22.60m
Volume total moistened: 70000m3

Sky Dragon, in its present form, will not qualify as a candidate for extreme high altitude flight.

That's right a demonstrator will not go to 20000 meters, but a ship full size will. Nice try.

The answer to a lot of question posted here. Thanks.

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part4
Non A-Z Initiatives
24. The US Technical Lead provided a summary of the non A-Z initiatives (Enclosure 10) including:
a. Efficient XML (EFX)
b. HAIPE
c. Hastily Formed Covered Networks
d. SANSWIRE Skysat
Levels of interest.
25. The WG discussed the A-Z initiatives in detail and sought levels of interest from each nation for each initiative. A lead nation and POC was assigned to each initiative. The resulting matrix is included at Enclosure 11.
VM WARE
26. CA provided a brief on the VM Ware initiative (Enclosure 12), including an explanation of VMWARE - In essence, virtualization lets you transform the hardware resources of an x86 or Intel based computer into software. A virtual machine encapsulates an entire server environment in a file, making it possible to rapidly save, copy and provision a virtual machine. Full systems (fully configured applications, operating systems, BIOS and virtual hardware) can be moved quickly from one physical server to another for maintenance and continuous workload consolidation. Multiple virtual machines share hardware resources without interfering with each other so that you can safely run several operating systems and applications at the same time on a single, host computer. It was emphasized that VMWARE will not reduce software licensing costs nor secure the servers.
27. VMWARE was summarized. The Enterprise product, ESX Server installs on the bare metal hardware and includes a proprietary file system. The Virtual Machine File System (VMFS) which is a high performance cluster file system provides storage virtualization that is optimized for virtual machines. Alternately the free VMWARE Server installs on existing server Operating Systems (Linux or Windows) and partitions a physical server into multiple virtual machines by abstracting processor, memory, storage and networking resources.
28. An overview of the benefits of VMWARE was presented and the scope of task outlined, which includes:
a. Identify existing platforms to re-cycle as Virtual Machine Hosts;
b. Determine whether to use the ESX Server or VMWARE Server. VMWARE has offered appropriate licenses and assistance for either;
c. Determine which servers are candidates for virtualization (eXML proxy, AIS2GOLD); and
d. Determine the performance metrics for experimentation.
29. Although some nations are already operating Virtual Machine technology on their national systems, it was agreed to experiment with VMWARE, particularly with the high availability features. More specific information on VMWARE is included at Enclosures 13 and 14.
Embedded Event Manager (EEM)
30. AU provided a brief on EEM (Enclosure 15). The term embedded management is used describe the software subsystems within Cisco IOS Software that help manage, monitor, and automate actions within a router or switch running Cisco IOS Software.
31. AU has done some work investigating how EEM can be deployed. The EEM could be used as a standalone tool or in conjunction with MTR Solution to either simply monitor events or to dynamically change/modify network. At this stage AU intends to primarily use it for event monitoring rather than dynamic configuration.
FIRE Website
32. The WG developed the Objectives, Questions and the System Measures for the agreed initiatives and uploaded them into the FIRE Website, a copy is included at Enclosure 16.
33. The leads for the NETEX development were agreed; LCdr Don Allan (CA) will lead the Operators syndicate and John Chan (US) will lead the Technical syndicate.
AIS2GOLD
34. CA provided a brief on AIS2GOLD (Enclosure 17). The brief included a summary of the TW AIS2GOLD experimentation goals. AIS2GOLD will allow the connection from unclassified AIS system to classified systems. The advantages of this are:
a. The ships avoids manual data entry and is able to share data with coalition ships
b. The recognized maritime picture (RMP) is able to obtain AIS data detected by ship using existing communications.
35. In summary, AIS2Gold is a cheap and simple system that allows AIS data to be put into C2 systems like GCCS and MCCIS. It allows for sharing of AIS data within a coalition of vessels using existing infrastructure.
36. The software for the AIS2Gold system was developed jointly by N6 and DRDC Atlantic. All relevant source code is owned by these agencies, therefore government owned IP.
NETEXS/survey questions
37. The EWG broke into technical and operations syndicates to develop the NETEXs and survey questions. It is expected this work will continue through to the next EWG.
Chairman’s Outbrief
38. The Chairman provided his out brief (Enclosure 18). He summarized the agreed initiatives and reviewed the objectives and questions for each one. An overview of the TW08 IPC was presented.
39. The Chairman outlined the challenges facing the WG in the lead up to the next meeting, and asked that nations be prepared to report their National participation levels for both A-Z and non A-Z initiatives, and present their initial TW ship riders and augmentation requirements. The intention is to review the technologies, objectives, and questions and modify these where necessary. The primary goal for the next EWG will be the development of a detailed RR LOE Plan.
40. In closing, the meeting schedule was updated, with the next event being the TW08 IPC 27-29 Aug and the next EWG (08/3) to be held in San Diego 26-30 Nov 07.
Other business
41. There being no further business the Chairman closed the meeting, thanking the US for hosting.


Submitted by: Approved by:


T. Cummins R.J. Sibbald
Lieutenant Commander Lieutenant Commander
Permanent Secretary Experimentation WG Chairman

Enclosures
List of Attendees
Agenda
Chairman’s Brief
AU Update Brief
CA Update Brief
NZ Update Brief
US Update Brief
UK Update Brief
Proposed AUSCANNZUKUS Technologies
Proposed non-AUSCANNZUKUS Technologies
Initiative Levels of Interest
VMWARE
VMWARE Brochure
VMWARE Pricing
Embedded Event Manager (EEM)
FIRE Objectives, Questions and the System Measures
AIS2GOLD Brief
Chairman’s Out brief

part 3
New Zealand
14. NZ summarized their proposed participation in TW08, included at Enclosure 6. these include the DNOC at JISA South, Porirua, a TACNOC at Devonport Naval Base, Auckland, a MOC at HQ JFNZ, Trentham, with HMNZS Te Kaha at sea in the Hauraki Gulf and a virtual ship at the Whangaparaoa Peninsula.
15. The proposed NZ initiatives include:
a. CMFP Core services;
b. AIS2Gold;
c. Virtual Servers;
d. Black Routing with QoS over MIPN using Wi-Fi and/or Cellular network and/or C-band Satellite;
e. Expanded MOC footprint; and
f. UHF SNR. NZ will not be conducting a ‘NZ only’ SNR trial however will consider a trial if AU is interested in participating .
16. NZ closed their brief by providing an overview of the NZ Scientific community involvement and outlining some of the challenges being faced at present, including funding, personnel and accreditation issues.
United States
17. The US provided a technical update brief (Enclosure 7). The brief summarized the participating ships, including:
a. USS BON HOMME RICHARD,
b. USS NEW ORLEANS,
c. USS MILIUS,
d. USS CHUNG-HOON,
e. USS CROMMELIN,
f. USS LAKE ERIE,
g. USS PAUL HAMILTON,
h. USS PORT ROYAL,
i. USS REUBEN JAMES,
j. USS RODNEY M DAVIS.
18. In addition, an LPD or LSD will participate but platforms are not yet identified. The vessels tentatively identified are USS RUSHMORE or USS GERMANTOWN. USS GEORGE WASHINGTON (CVN-73) will also be available for limited test of applications, but no major network initiatives.
19. The accreditation issues were summarized and the US TW08 installation milestones outlined. In closing, the US overviewed the FIRE website requirements for TW08.
United Kingdom
20. The UK presented national update (Enclosure x) which outline the UK level of participation, which is likely to include a virtual ship, HMS Dauntless. There is currently a slight potential for HMS CHATHAM to participate from its Far East Deployment. The UK focus mainly on the coalition initiatives, including Efficient XML, VMWARE, SNR/MTNC2 interop, and CND. The UK indicated there is a particular interest in:
a. HADR: Systematic Software Beacon;
b. Telesto: White shipping fusion software;
c. MHQ w/MOC: Observation or use only existing networks;
d. Coalition FIRES
21. The UK level of National involvement was outlined and the challenges currently being faced where presented, including manning Engineering Support issues (limited SME availability and funding.
A-Z Initiatives
22. The A-Z Technical lead summarized each of the proposed AZ technologies for TW08 (Enclosure 9), including:
a. Bearers
(1) Wideband SNR,
(2) Multiple Ad Hoc Subnet CONOPS,
(3) Spatially Aware Networks (SPAWN).
b. Routing
(1) Policy-Based Traffic Management (AMBTN spiral),
(2) IA/CND for LOS/ELOS,
(3) WAN Optimization.
c. Applications & Services
(1) EMIO Data Reduction via iORA, JPIP, NxPLite,
(2) Directory Services Integration (Global Address List).
23. The initiatives to be tested in the Laboratory only were presented:
a. Wideband SNR,
b. WAN Optimization,
c. Pchat lab testing over SNR and HFIP,
d. JPIP Client lab testing over SNR and HFIP,
e. iORA testing over HFIP - unable to do so in TW07, and
f. XMPP / SAMETIME Gateway - laboratory testing of IM interoperability capability.

part 2

Australia
7. AU presented the following areas of interest for TW08 (Enclosure 4). AU opened their National brief (Enclosure 4) by presenting a list of candidate initiatives, including:
a. GCCS 4
(1) Inform GCCS 3 replacement capability,
b. Maritime Vessel ID System (MVIS),
c. WAN Optimisation Capability
d. UHF Replacement Radio
e. QoS & VoIP Capability
f. SNR:
(1) 256K
(2) Include MPA thru NUW activity?
g. WiMAX (802.16)
8. The AU level of participation was outlined however it was emphasized that this is tentative at this stage and is likely to change somewhat before execution:
a. RIMPAC (AOR, LSH, FFH);
b. EAXA (FFG or FFH); and
c. Virtual Ship (HMAS WATSON, Sydney).
9. AU stated that their TW08 installations will be completed under ship’s trial documentation and an Interim Authority to Operate (IATO) only. AU provided a summary on other initiatives they may be interested in pursuing in TW08 including the Embedded Event Manager (EEM), and an MLTC solution.
Canada
10. CA provided an update (Enclosure 5) and included their level of participation, including two Halifax Class ships participating in RIMPAC 08 and TW08 enroute to Hawaii. Both units will have SNR installed however at this point the details of ships are not known.
11. CA expects to participate in the following objectives:
a. Directory Services Integration (Global Address List);
b. XMPP / SAMETIME Chat Gateway;
c. AIS2GOLD: Canada is sponsoring this initiative;
d. Multiple ADHOC Subnets: Canada will be involved inasmuch as possible, most likely during RIMPAC execution;
e. IA/CND: Canada will most likely introduce a firewall on the CENTRIXS server in the ships involved with TW08 and assess the impact it has on the connectivity;
f. Efficient XML; and
g. VMWARE
12. CA indicated that it may also participate in the following objectives:
a. MHQ with MOC - Operational level information sharing;
b. EMIO - wireless link from Boarding Team to ship
13. CA summarized the Networked Underwater Warfare (NUW) and Multi-Sensor Integration within a Common Operating Environment (MUSIC) technologies. CA believes the real strength of NUW lies in its ability to share sensor information near real-time, however without policies to enable the sharing of sensor data across the coalition network, NUW could not achieve one of its main objectives, that being the integration of tactical sonar data into a coalition RMP via OTH-GOLD messaging. It is believed that MUSIC may not be mature enough for TW08 however it may be brought forward for TW09.

EXPERIMENTATION WG 08/2
20-24 August 2007
San Diego
table of contents
table of contents 2
introduction 3
EWG CHAIRMAN’S REPORT 3
NATIONAL updates 3
Australia 3
Canada 4
New Zealand 5
United States 5
United Kingdom 6
A-Z Initiatives 6
Non A-Z Initiatives 7
Levels of interest. 7
VM WARE 7
Embedded Event Manager (EEM) 8
FIRE Website 8
AIS2GOLD 8
NETEXS/survey questions 9
Chairman’s Outbrief 9
Other business 9
Enclosures 9





introduction
1. The Chairman opened the meeting by welcoming delegates to the second Experimentation WG (EWG) meeting for Trident Warrior 08. A list of attendees is included at Enclosure 1 and the Agenda is at Enclosure 2. Mr. Jordon provided the domestic brief for the meeting.
EWG CHAIRMAN’S REPORT
2. The Chairman provided an update brief on TW08 events since the last meeting. The brief (Enclosure 3) provided a summary of the focus areas for A-Z experimentation. He provided an outline for the meeting, including the requirement to review both the A-Z and non A-Z technology proposals; identify the Lead nation and personnel for each technology. It is also intended to develop the initiative Objective Statements and Experimentation Goals for each initiative in the FIRES website and also design the initial Risk Reduction Limited Objective Experiment (RR LOE) goals. The final objective for EWG 08/2 was to discuss TW08 IPC goals.
3. The Chairman recapped the AUSCANNZUKUS role in experimentation and outlined the A-Z Experimentation Plan endorsed by the Supervisory Board in May 07. There is a requirement to A-Z experimentation areas for 2010.
4. An overview of TW08 was provided; the intention is to conduct TW08 in two phases; Phase 1 is the Technical phase to be conducted during the transit to Hawaii with phase 2, the Cognitive phase, being conducted during Scenario of RIMPAC. The integration of TW 08 with RIMPAC 08 aims to leverage mutual use of networks. The networks include SCI, SIPR, NIPR, CENTRIXS, and UNCLAS.
5. The Chairman’s closed his update by presenting an overview of the TW08 Technologies by initiative area and provided an update to the TW08 schedule.
NATIONAL updates
6. Nations presented their respective national updates.

eqbeck Maybe that is why Scottrade after hours ask went from .10 to 1.13.

The function of a regional gateway is to provide an interface between the country where it is located and the land-based network.

I could not come up with a reason for a flying surrogate ground station until I read this in the article you posted.

A gateway may be independent if it receives its own unique set
of channels or a redundant gateway if it receives the same set of channels as at least one other gateway.

I believe it is going to be used as a redundant gateway for wireless to wireless connections.
The process now is wireless signal travels to the satellite, down to ground station, back to satellite or ground tower, then on to recipient wireless device.

GEO satellite systems, located at an altitude of 35,800 kilometers above the Earth gives you a travel distance of 143,200 km (89,000 mi) versus strat 20 km (12.5 mi). Sure the distance could be cut in half if you use ground cell tower but travel distance is 71,600 km (44,500 mi).

I did a overview on energy consumption, turbine generation, solar cell production, and helium storage. the 2.1mw reflects the total energy consumption during a 14 hr nighttime period with all engines running full throttle. That's not going to happen.

Nil/rwehapi Read up on Afghanistan, Georgia, Bosnia, Caspian sea and oil/natural gas from south East Asia.
Also Venezuela buying influence in south America.

Also Russia's collapse in the 90s reason for their aggression showing up now.

I would not doubt that this economic crises wasn't in part exacerbated to deny Russia, Iran, and Venezuela the wealth they we accumulating.

Weening off fossil fuels is a National Security Crisis, and
after looking at this Annual Energy Review I don't see how we can anytime soon.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/aer/pdf/aer.pdf

So securing NG and oil is a must until renewable can come on line. On that coverage map, Afghanistan and Pakistan are not covered. and that area is the Second Saudi Arabia, and Russia wants it back.

The strat gives you eyes where Gtc and Gsat only track.

Bernd Start-up AERO-Trans AG, Zürich
I don't know, guess he has nothing better to do.
The Name does sound familiar.

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I was being sarcastic in response to coastiretired post.

I agree GTC is not going to invest in S-T without either using a LTA or expect their service to be used by others.

coastiretired sorry you have bandwidth problems, must be hard to look up good info. 28k modem were slow in 1996, try 56k they download faster.

Mide do you think this is a good point

Globalstar's earth stations already appear to cover the only regions where Sanswire is currently licensed (U.S., Mexico, and Canada).

Does that mean Sanswire-tao can only sell to a company who is going to install/use only in those country's? Well I guess GTC and the navy are s*** out of luck.

That Question was like throwing a hanging curve ball to a lefthander.

coasistired Two Major errors in your post do you know what they are?

TAO MnD AG,
Statutes Date: 08/07/2008.

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New names same old bashers. You guys are really P.O. over someone else making a sucess out of your failure.

ROBERT BLESSEY

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The contract was granted to GlobalNet by Global Telesat Corp., a privately held company that owns the only satellite simplex applique situated anywhere in the world outside of the United States. It is installed in a communications gateway within the region at an undisclosed protected location.

"We haven't forgotten the troops stationed in Afghanistan either, and hope to extend this mobile service there by Valentine's Day," he hastened to add.

According to that map they may not have been able to do it till now.


http://www.spacedaily.com/news/vsat-04b.html

Nil see this map?

GTC new proj. dev. 4th qt 08, Think we might be going to afghanistan?

http://www.gtc-usa.com/satphone/About_Global_Telesat.html

BBB I didn't even notice the # sign thanks.

bagelboy Thanks

BareBaxBo Does your scottrade position window show GTEM with share count and no other data, Or SNSR?

gary_17368 I'm waiting for the day were on the DOW!

Nil

DLR Institute for Technical Thermodynamics and Aviation Ltd.

Fuel cell plane Antares DLR H2 presented at Stuttgart airport
30th September 2008. Are in research with university of Stuttgart air chain, Along with BASF.


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Milremerlin

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merlin Thats interesting you said photovoltaics with micro heat pumps, because on pg 17

For the employment in a flight altitude of 20km the extreme environmental condition, an air pressure must be considered of approximately 1/20 of the air pressure at ground level, temperatures around 216K as well as the radiation intensity risen by 340W/m2 at the ground to 1150W/m2 by the sun [81]. In reciprocal effect with the site conditions the sun exposure leads to large temperature differences and thus thermal Tensions between that the sun exposed surfaces and shade surfaces.
I haven't read anywhere so far that they would exploit this.

As far as energy storage, batteries are out.
(PEM) is gas cells conceivable.
But in the meantime LH2 with three individual Kryotanks, 3 Gas turbines and 3 generators, and 6 Siemens engine 1FT6086-8WK7 will be used.
LH2 2.1 mwh = 238 lbs. a few days supply will get your 9 days.






The energy surplus must be transferred to an energy storage with a capacity of 2.1 MWh.

Imawswami I did see the weight and couldn't believe thin film weighed that much. So I ran the numbers 3000 x 120 = 360000 that should be about 12%, but your saying 20%.

NREL Sets Thin Film Record 19.9
Applied Optical Systems $.80 per watt, 15 to 18 percent
http://www.nrel.gov/solar/news/2008/631.html

Things are moving quickly.

That strikes me as high also
history chk pgs 11-14

Date published 12.09.2008 eom