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Poet..........................essentially:
Your "champion" is getting the best of the competition and you are stepping in to tie one hand behind my back.
His references to possible negative aspects of my person not withstanding?
Apparently the private messages I am receiving from other posters at this moment in support of my position and descriptions of your INTOLERANT little group are correct?
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KOIKAZE
"Shooting from the hip" means posting a first draft on a subject with only spelling corrections...no re-writes...or major editing involved, and doing so in an extremely short, non-reflective time frame.
My "carousel" post to Bird of Prey #2722 at JAIL was an original first draft with 15 seconds of spelling edit.
It was composed and drafted in about 200 seconds. Check the time between Bird of Prey's request for a story and the posting of that story...couldn't have been more than 8 or 10 minutes.
This is "shooting from the hip"
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CharleyMike
au contraire...you are an "old" man and I am a man. You bought the story and now sit on your butt and criticize those you are envious of. I've met lots of you. You are as common as cows and about as limited.
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CharleyMike...I refer you to my "jobs" posts to joemoney
Grind along Charley...as Charley plays to an audience of one: Poet.
I am sure the women are just swooning over your posts Charley.
Hey, you get along with Bullrider? (He asked with a suspicion of "all isn't quite right with this here boy")
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CharleyMike.......I am always on the front lines
What you lack in experience you try to make up for in incisive, self effacing, seemingly appropriate question and doubt.
I see you.
Just because I am in excellent physical shape and have highly desirable skills belays the "seemingly" hindrances of age that people such as you perceive. Get out there and skydive son (I assume you are a whippersnapper?), climb a mountain or two...drive a snowmobile at 85 mph all day...live.
I am credible because of that experience
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Poet...........................re: CharleyMike
Sorta INTOLERANT of me isn't he? You folks well fixed up with mirrors here at Poet's corner?
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CharleyMike...of course it is still unnatural
You may be appalled at reality...just the person I am trying to reach.
As to laughter? With me all the time. Ask anyone here who knows me, who has met me. I am a steadily happy fellow.
I must say this snow all the time isn't as cheerful as it could be but then spring is near.
I am an extremely optimistic, positive person and you sir or on a very liberal mission.
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Poet........................Historical Fact.
Might doesn't make you right.
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CharleyMike.......................Yes, I do.
I am EXTREMELY Intolerant of MURDER in the name of God.
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Bullrider..........................description?
2 V-8's attached end to end...I doubt it...re-think
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KOIKAZE
No, really (and in explanation)...your BELIEF analysis was fine, it was just an interrupted thought. We could talk on far beyond that. It seems you were rolling along and then the telephone rang. Know what I mean?
As to brevity...I often challenged people presenting me with long drawn out posts by denying a response...saying: "You put that in 25 words or less and I will reply."
I know that "stream of consciousness" posts are akin to conversations in real face to face situations. They roll...they flow!
I also know that careful editing will get your BELIEF post down to 2/3 of a page or so, suitable for submission to newspapers all over America. Maybe two briefs...there is a possibility of breaking it up into several different thoughts.
The tax post turns me off...too general. It is obvious your tax post and my declaring triple by-passes for people over 60 be paid out-of-pocket are similiar. We both see (perceive) a problem but our proposed solutions are naive.
More Later
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marcos
You might sell a Nomad to a yacht owner but you will never sell one to a diesel engineer who owns a yacht.
As to allium sp.?...noxious?...probably...delicious?...definitely!
N. of the 45th
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'thames_sider'...Welllllllll...here I go again!
In every way that you can relate the English to the Irish...the English come out as pigs.
As to the sexual weirdnesses of the English...tons of funny books.
The once and never again British skinning machine is what it is. They are getting lots of lumps these days and they DESERVE it.
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Original...I checked the "cop out" url...thanks...eom
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ONEBGG
You mean the talking crow?
The old lady catching fish for the crows?
The reason why crows don't trust me?
About owning a crow as a pet?
Gad, I can't remember which story you are talking about...REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH...please.
If you don't I am going to tell about the talking heifer.
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KOIKAZE
Damn, I find myself not only printing out your post but all the links contained therein.
You sure can write.
Any of this stuff from the hip?
ola
KOIKAZE...................BELIEF ...analysis
You understand precisely....what you don't understand is that the "we"? The we humans, Why do we, we see, etc.
It is "you", the wife and I, you will examine.
Your very accurate ideas and thoughts are not acceptable to a "true believer", bible clutched in hand...ministers, "The Faithful"
These people read 3 or 4 paragraphs of this and they can feel the heat in the paper and see you involved in Satanic rituals, burning churches and harassing Christian...NO NO NO and they throw your paper aside, clutch the Bible to their chest...raise the cross to their eyes and start saying; "begone Satan"
Good luck with Christians and writing such as this. You are then dealing with sub-morons, the confused, ignorant, weak-minded...these are the ones that race to the forefront and violently tear up your tracts and order you off the church property. The rest are glad to see some4one is "taking care" of the problem...Complacency reigns.
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I never saw God or his punishments as a child...The "will to believe" didn't have a grip on me. It all appeared foolish...Especially confession of sins. I had a hard time reconciling my childish masturbations and fantasies, sexual talk and thoughts with a priest (GOD) forgiving us over and over again (weekly! thats right folks, step right up and have it all forgiven weekly) as being something that would earn us eternal damnation. the "impending calamity" of Catholicism and your guaranteed path to hell if caught out and killed in a "State of Mortal Sin" was ludicrous. It conflicted totally with an understanding, see-all, forgiving GOD.
I love your "leap directly from ignorance to absolute certainty" and from there to destructiveness is certainly the path "It's God's will you fool, shut up your mouth and go over there and beat the shit out of those niggers, you hearr boy?"
"Without examination, bias flows into prejudice"
You betcha.
But once again..."YOU SEE"...ola "SEES" and others, but "They", ola's "They" don't see. Not even interested in what you are saying.
Human characteristics influence our beliefs? You bet...lots of blood gets in there. Religious fervor is fueled by natural instincts.
You are familiar with the chakras? Energy sources in the human body. Christians call up the prime energy, the Firsat chakra...SURVIVAL and apply it to defense of their beliefs. This, this alone is what we are up against. That is a strong sourced religious fervor.
Like someone said before; Just fly into Cambodia, get on a bicycle and ride out into the countryside for 20 miles, stop, get off your bike and approach a farmer and tell him that he is all screwed up, that Jesus Christ is the only path to salvation and that he is doomed to hell if he doesn't accept Jesus as his savior. He will probably beat you half to death with his rake. I just said that. He may not even entertain a concept of hell...Actually, you will speak the language fluently and still spend many hours getting this farmer to understand the concepts you brought. Damned at birth? He wil string question marks all over the room and possibly suspend your neck from one of them...and you deserve it!
What you understand and pass on and I elaborate on is: There are so many damned Christian sects out there and all of them are sure they are the only path to salvation. But you say they are Christian and the whole church jumps up in their defense. Pigeonhole them and they will say something like..."Whale, I don't know, but seems theys is thinking somewhat alkong the same lines as usun and they couldn't be all that fahr from our truth for us to disamyss tham out of hand."
WE ARE TALKING MORONS here...not we, us etc. but you, me, I.
"Of course they are all damned you fool, they can't even read English."
"The Bibles printed in English ya know?"
Rituals...ahhhhh...ritual...you sure have this one down pat...maybe I should have Matt just hold you next time you show up and we can burn you right here at IH...save us a lot of time.
And yeah, it IS all my fault...mea cupla mea cupla, mea maxima cupula...Hahahahahahahaaaaaa Apologetics of guilt.
F--k what a burden to throw on some child.
The only problem with your (their) God damned Beliefs analysis is that it wasn't long enough.
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marcos............................nice post
allium yes....name? I was very young, they grew in the creek water in Louisiana. Hot humid country. They were wild.
Hot and spicy and used in local Creole cooking. I would check with someone in Louisiana. Above the 49th? Yes, me too...just slightly. Chances are they won't grow spontaneously here.
As to diesels...I have worked on lots of Gardiner's but not with clutches between...mostly small stuff. If they are clutched between, then each is a separate engine!
Napier is a familiar name. I would say the Deltic was also three separate engines driving a common chain with the blower inside the triangle. Oppposed Piston engines gain nothing. Very poor efficiency wise and a nightmare to work on. Very high maintenance.
The British are famous for making something simple extrememly clever and complicated. The Italians for making it simple and failure prone. Diesels complication comes only in the fuel delivery system. The simpler the arrangement and stronger the structure, the more horsepower that can me wrung out of them. Its clever fuel delivery, heat management and multiple isolated turbos. 2 cycle seems to work best at very slow speeds (115 rpm) Piston crown longevity is paramount with the high firing pressures and temperatures attained getting the huge horsepower figures we do today. The fuel must be an EXACT temp.,viscosity and purity. The structure must be rigid and able to take the tremendous side thrusts of the power stroke directly after Top Dead Center.
Scavenging is high pressure and common delivery in nature.
General Motors has experimented with every possible workable configuration in internal combustion; fueled by war needs and a wonderful curiosity throughout GM from the 30's to the 70's.
The EMD (now named?) was a family of V-type engines with a few inlines using the same cylinders, crank measurements, piston, and valve arrangements.
They began back with the 16-278A's, 248's, 567's...etc., and evolved into the 20 cyl tight V of today.
Cooper Bessemer had a wonderful 4 cycle V-engine, the LSV 12 and 16...and I hear even larger later. Very reliable, big and slow. It turned 365 rpm and about 4000 hp in the LSV-16/turbo arrangement. Piker stuff now.
The 9 cylinder Sulzers put out 60,000+ h.p. and the 12 cylinders about 90,000 h.p. I work on the 9 cyl. and the 7 cyl...32,000 h.p. They are about 25 years old, although Sulzer is still building them, the newer ones are even stronger, higher firing pressures etc.
In-line, hunky, cleverely fueled turbo diesels are the very leading edge of diesel technology today. They last forever and are very easy to work on.
Later
ola
In a post....................to another board:
Murder rape pillage burning torture are an everyday thing in the name of God...now and back then. Religious fanatics and 9/11...nothing has changed.
The pope apologizes for what? Church policy then and unchanged now. People need to be warned about religion.
This Yates was suffering delusions regarding hell/devil.
Where do you think people like this pick up all this stupidness?
A 3 car group of people coming home from a revival. In one car, some guy decided the devil has got into his clothes...then the car. They all take off their clothes and get in another car...soon all 15+ of the people are nude and in one car. There are Two pregnant women and 3 children in the trunk when the police stop them...true story...NOT Urban rumor.
This kind of stuff goes on all over America on a regular basis. These people are morons.
Have you ever talked to a Jehovah Witness? We have over 2,000,000 of those goofballs loose on the streets.
I lived in Nehalem OR...a dairy community. I came across one of the dairy farmers, his family and the hired help all down on their knees praying. When I asked them what they were praying for they said that the milk had too much blood and anti-biotics in it. It was unfit for sale. They were praying that the co-op didn't test it before it was dumped into the reservoir with the other milk.
THAT is where religions are in America today. It is an us and them thing.
Children die from a lack of medical care. Churches (members) get deeply involved in civic affairs...we are talking government here. Churches announce from the pulpit which businesses to do business with. non-Christian businesses and people in the community are pointed out. Christians run small businesses to the exclusion of non-Christians by the simple expedient of just not helping them, or not ordering requested goods, taking days to fill their prescriptions and in general being rude.
This goes on all over America. It's called INTOLERANCE
You don't see it in the big cities, not as well as you see it in the small ones.
With all the ignorance, disease, suffering, starvation, war, murder, torture and death going on out there you just show me where there is a benevolent, caring, compassionate God? I would like to wring his neck.
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husker
Like SWAMP at RB, it is a low post site.
There is a young cowboy
Who lives on the range.
His horse and his cattle
Are his only companions...
He works in the saddle
And he sleeps in the canyons...
Waiting for summer his pastures to change.
And as the moon rises he sits by his fire,
Thinking about women and glasses of beer...
Closing his eyes as the dogies retire,
He sings out a song which is soft but is clear...
As if maybe someone could hear...ummhmmm
Campfires, hunting, fishing activities in the evenings are a quiet time, unencumbered usually by others presence and when so, of like mind. A quiet reflective, contemplative time. A singular existence in time.
Talk becomes superfluous.
So, good night moonlight ladies...
Rock-a-bye sweet baby James
Deep greens and blues are the colors I choose...
Won't you let me go down in my dreams?
And rock-a-bye sweet baby James.
ola
excel...popguns...excellent...it's a print...eom
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Dear Poet....................Apology enclosed
I actually have expressed concern and apology for all this.
When I posted the long thing about preemies, Hitlerish behavior in the pre-1950's at hospitals, Catholic presence etc. your response was to tear down each item as if I wasn't there and you were...just the opposite.
In addition, plain English was twisted by you. Nun's services in Maternity were offered to all hospitals FREE...the church wanted these highly trained nun's there to protect any child, normal or deformed from the doctor's decisions counter to Church policy.
Hippocratic oath...is a joke
Listen; I questioned everyone in my youth. I had some of the most prominent people in the Catholic Church of New Orleans "counsel" me. My family moved in professional, socially prominent circles. I was privvy to what was really going on.
American justice and medical care is in a "poor baby"..."lost puppy" mode and it is detrimental to our society.
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KOIKAZE..............................I agree
I got carried away there and arrogance came into play.
I do care about what you are saying and I realize my view may be different from yours.
I have made a few observations and posted recollections on what America was like in the 40's and 50's and people just seem to think I am making it all up. I rather resent being dismissed offhand.
Yates will never be acceptable (in my mind) on the streets of America again. She killed five people. She should be executed whether insane, directed by god...whatever.
Our liberal justice system is a gradually evolved phenomena and that evolution has spawned more and more criminals like Yates.
We are our worst enemies.
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LLL?................................welcome
I didn't know you were lurking me here at IHub.
Funny e-mail...yes...we have one here too...all boards have one or two or three! (heaven forbid lol...lol)...seems joemoney is the chief clown here at IH closely followed by Bird of Prey.
We haven't got into high gear yet. I am checking out a special assignment with admin now. I will let you know when.
O.Lafaye
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joemoney, we are all idiots here and we all want you
to GO AWAY!
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alexed..........................all correct.
I agree........I have no great claims on "lack of imperfections is me"
A little Bushmills does sometimes make me edgy and agressive.
I am very open and honest.
By the way...the proof of god's non-existence is the complete lack of proof that he does exist.
If we didn't believe, none of these silly conundrums would come up.
I know that rotten bananas are the secret to the universe...Mike, the gay produce guy over in produce at Wal Mart told me so.
I believe in the banana god because Mike told me so...Hey, we have rotten bananas to prove it! Don't laugh damnit!
lol...lol...lol
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JXM..................................ho ho ho
My apologies...mrmark privated a message saying...JXM isn't what you think...Thank You mrmark
Sci fi buff here.
I am a heterosexual male: firm, strong, secure in my masculinity.
I love the ola appelation...gives me a certain advantage in off the wall posts. And a great advantage on Yahoo when playing Bridge and Spades with the "macho" type.
hahahhahaaaa...lol...lol...lol
Bird of Prey and I have tangled. I realized he was one to watch. He challenged my knowledge over on JAIL (I think it was today) but I came out unscathed.
He has been trying to get a piece of me since I arrived.
Looking forward to your posts and please accept my apologies...The wonderful, bright, intuitive (sometimes) thoughtful, compassionate and thoroughly amusing (he said modestly)
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The Original dpb5
Why don't we consider all members to be worthy of admiration and respect?
Those who offend Matt & Bob's sensibilities could be sent a small box of dog poo poo.
When they again get out of hand, Matt could threaten them with revealing that they possess a small box of dog poo poo.
Instant blackmail...Live!Chat could fit in here somewhere. Think about it. No reply necessary.
This post is not the product of
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joemoney.......................I have to admit:
Matt has sent me a large number of personal messages outlining what is correct and what is not acceptable to post at JAIL
We are really struggling to compose something that describes you perfectly, warns all the other posters and gets rid of you forever.
Be patient...we are working on it.
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joemoney.......................you mean?
I have engaged the great joemoney and have been found wanting?
Maybe, maybe not
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JXM
You are of female type?
hahahaha
Profane is joe
I feel your "alarming posts" post were more "slight anxiety" types of posts.
Did you grok what is truly an alarming post like...gun threats and open plots?
Your seeming alliance with joemoney was incorrect and I apologize.
Much worse things go on on the internet. Don't lose any sleep tho' there are a lot of goofballs out there rendered harmless through the distance...distance...
I am the .357 crowd...I could care less who knows who I am or where I live.
Come and get me coppers!
rat tat tat attaatatattattaratattat tat tat tatattaa
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joe.......................................?
You hype, lie, bluster and sneak...all pasted with bullshitso
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Joemoney.......................cut & paste?
You have to understand a simple fact Joe. It is so simple you missed it.
Your posts are those of a slightly literate man.
When you suddenly post something that hasn't one mistake, is coherent, and well developed...we KNOW it ain't joemoney. lol...lol...
Try going through the copy, altering sentences, misspelling words etc...someone might go for it, but not
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mrmark
To be self aware, you have to give it all up.
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mrmark
Then I am reasonably certain you are correct. I snap-judge from posts I admit. His posts to admin were a little off-the-wall in alarm.
I figured he and his posts to Joemoney were "birds of a feather" type.
Hope he is as thick skinned and forgiving as yours sincerely,
ola
welll joemoney.....................Thats great!
With your new found insight you may be able to garner a little respect here at IH, something that has eluded you from the get go.
Looking forward to talking to the "NEW" joemoney
ola
Like just now: I linked to Live!Chat from here and got the connect box. Lots of places it won't link me up. Here it did.
ola
Problem with........................ Live!Chat
When I go there I get a rectangular Grey box...no link to chat.
I have to manipulate around the other links until I get a "connect" box link, shaded in grey.
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Joemoney...are you familiar with the word edit?
It has something to do with judicious reflection.
Try it sometimes. You just might be a person we could find tolerable here.
ola