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AH better watch out that the federal government does not come after him for filing such a a BS lawsuit..
Don't know if they're just paranoid but, some of the plaintiffs claim their phones are tapped etc., and saltydog repeated the claims recently.
Given that Al has provided nothing new
Krazy Al did formally add Hezbollah to the complaint. LOL
He also directly accuse the individual defendants of acts that were allegedly committed. I don't recall him using the words criminal behavior directed at them before in the last filings (though i could be wrong).
I also don't recall him quoting Cox as saying, "CMKX was the largest naked short in history".
I do not consider this a WIN for bashers
Neither do I. That day will come when the insiders are all locked up for the crimes they committed.
I feel myself
slipping to the darkside
Again?!
jimmy, just go to the darkside until your package arrives in the mail. That way you won't get disappointed by the Krazy Al, Krazy Squid and Krazy Xer gurus.
How do they feel about the amended complaint at proboards and RB?
Mostly pissed off. They will get "recondition" in a day or two.
gussie and eggie had words earlier today.
bhollenegg
First, please accept my apology for the delay in responding to what transpired yesterday. I was in the hospital all day...wasn't expecting to be there all day.
Attorney Hodges, as a precaution, has prepared an “Amended Complaint”, which will be timely filed in the event Shareholders have not been paid. This is a prudent precaution, a strategic move to further protect and ensure the release of the funds to the Shareholders. If the funds are released with no problems, then the “Amended Complaint” will not be filed. If the funds are not released, then the “Amended Complaint” will be filed. This is a precaution, an additional protection just in case there is a problem.
I read a few posts today which I would like to respond in the hopes my response will clear up some misconceptions and misinformation circulating around the message boards by those attempting to taint the good work accomplished by Attorney Hodges.
I have been honest with all my messages of what I know. I cannot predict what will happen if different scenarios occur with the release of the funds. I can tell you what I know to be correct at the present time, but I cannot tell you what the adversaries will do or have up their sleeves in order to delay or stop the release of the funds. I know enough to realize where my limitations are when it comes to something as important as the release of the funds to the Shareholders. My knowledge and experience in legal matters, especially in this situation, pales and is no match to an Attorney with over 40 years of professional knowledge and experience in law and legal matters. Attorney Hodges may not know what the adversaries have up their sleeves to stop or delay the release of the funds, however, Attorney Hodges knows what is required to counteract the adversaries’ attempts to thwart a just outcome for the Shareholders. Attorney Hodges and his expertise is a major ingredient for the successful outcome in releasing the funds.
I will be the first to raise my hand when it comes to being frustrated that the Shareholders do not have the funds in their possession. I would never raise my hand to frustrate the release of the funds or frustrate those who are actually working on the release of the funds.
Gusjarvis, I read your threats and insinuations. This is my response, not Attorney Hodges and not the plaintiffs. I have received threats from you by email to tell you information I know as a plaintiff or else if we don’t get paid by a certain day you will expose everything. Expose what??? Now you are threatening legal actions against Attorney Hodges and the Plaintiffs if the funds are not released by your schedule or terms. Why is it each time there are strong indicators that the release of the funds are about to happen, you step up your threats, innuendos, and false accusations in an attempt to have all strategic information made public before the funds are released.
Making all strategic information available for all to see, including the adversaries is not “respect for the CMKX Shareholders”. Categorizing Shareholders who only follow you as the “Real Shareholders” is not respect for the CMKX Shareholders. I posted a message thanking you for the work you did a month ago with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and you took my message posted as part of your message against Attorney Hodges. …that is not respect for the CMKX Shareholders.
Your threats against those working on the release of the funds are not going to release the funds. Attorney Hodges legal actions and determination will prevail in the release the funds to the CMKX Shareholders.
Thank you,
BHollenegg
gusjarvis
what a joke, please put the threats on the net bob. What would I expose, as we have been kept in the dark. What threats have I made to you or Al, what a sad sad farce this has turned into.
I put out the truth, the truth is we have been strung along and lied to, the truth is the whole team knows what happened and plays their roles inluding the og. I am not sure at all what the issue is with shareholders trying to force answers out of the authorities who are lying to us. I am not sure what you are even talking about.
I am not the only one upset with the communications and how things have gone down, my phone rings off the hook with those complaining about the way we have been strung along, with the way three different stories come out of the plaintiffs, all started from Al. We are all sick of this ordeal and want out of the mission.
I have never ever said that Al is a bad man going against us, but he is part of the mission and we have been lied to for years. I have asked people to simple ask for an investigation into this, that is it.
So please show the world the threats I have made please show the shareholders what I have done to make you so angry. If asking for a straight answer means I am threatening you, well that is sad.
We have now heard for months on end it is over for sure, over monday, well a day or two, for sure by friday, then back to monday. We have all heard that bonney has the money over and over again to hear that something got in the way, then to realize he never had the money.
Week after week complete crap right from the source, then we hear well don't listen to anything unless it is right from Al but it as right form Al
Now we have treffy going it is over, we expect er today, then to back peddle as always and well maybe. You have the plaintiffs saying he won't refile, oh he will refile, that is just the same old same old as we have gone through for years, especially the last eight months.
What a joke the way we have been and are treated, and for you to attack me, sad bob. To say that I threatened you, what a joke. To have said death threats came to you because of me in the past, what a joke.
It is brutal that the team attacks anyone who questions them, everyone should be able to question them at this point in the game.
bob what a sad day in cmkx
1. I have never theatened you or said I would expose all as I can't it is all hidden from us.
2. I have never threatened Al with legal action if he doesn't come through, or if we don't get paid on a certain day, just not true, but I do support anyone who does any action to force the truth.
3. I shouldn't have put your post of support on the thread I did.
4. I have never had an agenda when it came to trying to make threats as we were suppose to be paid, only after another round of rumors turned out to be false and yes I have been very angry, especially when you have to make the phone call to your friends and family explaining that I guess the money didn't move like they said, and I guess what we heard was bs again. Tough phone calls, and after them I have been very angry, but certainly not when we were suppose to be paid, only after.
5. I call people the real shareholders who are stuck in this intel operation, I don't include in that group those in the operation even if they are real shareholders and on our side.
6. I assume that since you attacked me today we sure aren't getting good news today, as if we were you wouldn't have done it. So I will assume we get nothing today but the standard something went wrong and we are still stuck here, but don't question the team, they are your only hope and even though they have told us a thousand different stories they are not running an operation.
7. It is sad you have to lie about me and my motives when you know the truth. Yes sometimes I fly off the handle, but I am just a frustrated shareholder and bob you know that 100% for sure and trying to make it look any different is a complete fabrication on your part.
8. I hope I am wrong and this is over today, but given what you just did I am almost one hundred percent in the belief we are in for the long haul now and today will be a complete disappointment.
9. And it is sad the reporter who phoned Al to break this story on Monday hasn't got a call back
I know that the SEC is anxious for this to be over; however, it is not particularly the SEC that has held things up, IMO.
OMG!!! Who wrote wrote that nonsense?
institution of the US dollar re-funding project; pay-out of world settlements; and, distribution of funds to many other programs. This involves a total of more than $42 Trillion.
Only $42 trillion? LOL
Because the naked corruption in D.C. is so endemic
LMAO
That reminds me of the story back in the 70s about a stripper named Fanny Fox who was caught with congressman Wilber Mills and jumped into the Tidal Basin naked.
And when, exactly, did Chris Cox ever say anything at all about CMKX?
Some people have been known to hear voices in their heads.
Does Krazy Al just consider anything the Xers tell him to be fact?
Now, Janice. There wouldn't be a lawsuit without the Xers "facts". LOL
That complaint is filled with false information and "facts" that we know are incorrect.
Like Roger Glenn being the drafter of Sarbannes-Oxley which he wasn't.
And Al alleges that CMKX owned the race car which they didn't
The irony is Christopher Cox was still a member of congress when Sarbanes–Oxley Act was passed. Cox knows a thing or two about writing legislation. Al is suing the folks who know all about Sarbanes–Oxley, including who drafted the Act.
Not only that, but the SEC/DOJ both took depositions and fully investigated what transpired with CMKX. So they know what CMKX owned and what they didn't.
If I were a plaintiff in a lawsuit and my attorney was unable to get simple facts like these correct, I would be extremely pissed.
http://www.sec.gov/about/commissioner/cox.htm
SEC Biography:
Chairman Christopher Cox
For 10 of his 17 years in Congress, Chairman Cox served in the Majority Leadership of the U.S. House of Representatives. He was Chairman of the House Policy Committee; Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security; Chairman of the Select Committee on U.S. National Security; Chairman of the Select Committee on Homeland Security (the predecessor to the permanent House Committee); Chairman of the Task Force on Capital Markets; and Chairman of the Task Force on Budget Process Reform.
In addition, he served in a leadership capacity as a senior Member of every committee with jurisdiction over investor protection and U.S. capital markets, including the House Energy and Commerce Committee (as Vice Chairman of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee); the Financial Services Committee; the Government Reform Committee (as Vice Chairman of the full Committee); the Joint Economic Committee; and the Budget Committee.
Among the significant laws he authored were the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act, which protects investors from fraudulent lawsuits, and the Internet Tax Freedom Act, which protects Internet users from multiple and discriminatory taxation. His legislative efforts to eliminate the double tax on shareholder dividends — the subject of a thesis he authored at Harvard University in 1977 — led to the enactment in May 2003 of legislation that cut the double tax by more than half.
Chairman Cox also served as Co-Chairman of the Bipartisan Study Group on Enhancing Multilateral Export Controls, which published a unanimous report in 2001. In 1994 he was appointed by President Clinton to the Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform, which published its unanimous report in 1995.
Hodges re filing.
http://viewer.zoho.com/docs/dub3df
sheesh.........
Nothing much to speculate on now, except what sanctions may be.
Treff totally screwed up and almost started a riot!
IF that wasn't bad enough, imagine what PalTalk is like today with no news about the ER. lol
You can hear the chipmunks in his head running as he's trying to think of a way to retract the statement!
Hilarious! Time for squid to have another hamster brain transplant.
very_tired15: I am personally sorry for first delivering info that there is no need to refile.. and changing it.. I do not think I was used, but I believe the change is a genuine and well-thought out one
Nixon paid a bribe to someone. Maheu was the bagman.
Nixon received $100,000 for his personal use through his pal Bebe Rebozo. Maheu was a bagman because Howard Hughes ordered him to do so. He was a party to the act.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/24/60minutes/main676414.shtml
After Nixon took office, Hughes ordered Maheu to give a sizeable sum of money to the president’s close friend, Bebe Rebozo.
"They had given Bebe Rebozo $100,000 in cash for the president," says Lenzner. "For Nixon personally."
To Maheu, the $100,000 in cash was a political contribution, half of which he handed to Rebozo in person. "We delivered the envelope at his home," says Maheu.
Did he see what Rebozo did with it? "Have no idea. He went in another room," says Maheu. "Came back without, as they say, without the money."
What was illegal or nefarious about Hughes giving Nixon money in a political campaign?
"If it had gone to a legitimate political campaign, it would have been perfectly appropriate and OK," says Lenzner. "This, however, was a bribe, in effect, through Mr. Rebozo to the president."
Congressional investigators believed the cash was given to get Hughes favorable government treatment for his casino and airline businesses.
CHUNKY44, if Hodges told that story to the Xers not only would they believe it, the Xers would start another letter writing campaign asking congress to appoint a special prosecutor to the case.
6 Hodges gets ER tomorrow, then gets mugged in his parking lot by the tooth fairy disguised in a Richard Nixon mask, who makes off with Al's briefcase which contains the only copy of a dvd of the infamous Maheu meeting, and all other hard evidence, along with a $3.87 trillion cashiers check.
So Richard Nixon was cloned and they waited all these years for the script to be written. Was that why Maheu bribed Nixon? Brilliant plam!
except for Al and his minions disappearing into the woodwork
But Treff claims Hodges will re-file on Friday even after Economic Receipt.
very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid.
Silly me! I underestimated Krazy Al's Xer madness. lol
New option added:
Hodges Poll for this upcoming week.
File Date September 17th
1 Hodges files the amended complaint with no new sufficient evidence
2 Hodges files the amended complaint and adds documented evidence/names those involved
3 Hodges does not file amended complaint and drops the Bivens lawsuit
4 Amended complaint not necessary because trust fund money has been released
5 Trust money is released and Hodges STILL files amended complaint
The results of our poll from another board. #2 is leading with 33% of the votes.
http://cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=6716
Hodges Poll for this upcoming week.
File Date September 17th
1 Hodges files the amended complaint with no new sufficient evidence (4 votes, 22.2%)
2 Hodges files the amended complaint and adds documented evidence/names those involved
(6 votes, 33.3%)
3 Hodges does not file amended complaint and drops the Bivens lawsuit (4 votes, 22.2%)
4 Amended complaint not necessary because trust fund money has been released (4 votes, 22.2%)
IHub results:
#1 dia duit - janice shell - pantherj
he will be virtually friendless. anyone could be a target
True. When it comes to meltdowns he never discriminates.
It never ceases to amaze me where he gets the nerve to face the PalTalkers with the BS he spews.
i want to see a full blown ballistic meltdown
LOL
Directed at who? It seems doubtful he can send the "pizza man" over to visit Hodges considering everything that has been claimed publicly on PalTalk, etc.
it would be great to see him go "pizza man" on someone
You mean a verbal "pizza man" threat? lol
Doubtful he can afford another frivolous "pizza man" action so soon following this one, imo.
If I were her, I would not be so hasty with that action
LOL
Mona probably made more appointments to view $10 million mansions tomorrow.
What utter moronosity
So what happens if there is no ER this week, no media blitz from major news outlets exposing the lawsuits allegations, and all that happens is Krazy Al filing a déjà vu amended complaint?
Our #1 prediction for the 17th is looking good right now.
BS time! very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid.
very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow
very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
very_tired15: I need to move on with my life - one way or the other.
cmkxer: ty allan
Darren1104: beat goes on
very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
spiderman1959: I for one will be long gone
Nikander: smoke and mirrors very_tired, are you the smoke or the mirror?
ny joe 343: The way it sounds to me... ER announced, Payment Begun, ReFile, Payment Finished, Suit withdrawn.
very_tired15: I need to move on with my life - one way or the other.
jfarn: I guess I need to ask what Al's definition of Economic Receipt means?
mrsbillyray: uncalled for
jaylar1962_1: IF he refiles,,,won't the info in that be very damning to the gov and our econ ?
greasetx: sounds right nyjoe
spiderman1959: Right on Joe
jakodiamondz: Worrying about the 'un-shareholders'?
very_tired15: Nikander, you are way out of line.
Halasy_Policy: Allan do you have sound?
mrsbillyray: yep
ny joe 343: I think that's how it'll go.
very_tired15: no sound
Halasy_Policy: ok, Jac just asked you something
very_tired15: I have sound now
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: but how could he amend the lawsuit alleging they are withholding our payment..if its already paid
Halasy_Policy: jac, please repeat question to Allan...he didn't hear you
ChuckWheat: can we get everyone off of Allan?
carverchick_2: good question lucy
cityslicker19:
jfarn: If he received Economic Receipt...what does that mean?
caseco_1_1: lucy, have to file with new language under same case number. i would guess
JoeBud: don;t see the point of refiling if we're paid
spiderman1959: The Government will have another 30 days to respond to refile too.
honie6: right jac
very_tired15: I just got sound at the end.
jfarn: What is an ER without Meat?
gscraig: So the UN shareholders will get an UN announcement about their UN refile? UN believable. In fact I don't believe it.
moneyinthebank_1: dont shoot the messenger!
JoeBud: sounds like hocus pocus
bigkahnman: WAS ON PHONE WHAT DID I MISS
jfarn: What is an ER with meat
Earl is My Name: The case is moot if we get paid.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: caseco.. how can you alledge you arent paid in a lawsuit..if the money has been transferred
moneyinthebank_1: sorry, allan is only telling us what he knows
spiderman1959: Al I am sure is prepared if ER has not been received. I personally beleive ER was acheived some time ago.
Darren1104: no meat in hearsay
moneyinthebank_1: ok
spiderman1959: Ok here we go.......get confrontational now.
very_tired15: Believe me, I was told repeatedly that we would not need to refile. If he decides to refile - even if ER comes - then there is a strategy to maintain pressure. It is a new strategy to me as of last night.
caseco_1_1: beats me. im confused now. lol
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: boy am i corn fused
Crashigan: What would he need strategy for if he has ER?
JoeBud: How soon after ER do we get proof ofpayment?
pardonmi: electronics
carverchick_2: totally lost lol
mrsbillyray: once er is received can they stop payment?
cityslicker19: duck...
cityslicker19: duck..
acerta_1: the game is not over until the money is in our hands.
cityslicker19: goose!
Earl is My Name: Pressure for WHAT? Is ER what we were waiting on or what?
alan300zx: GA Everyone
Trueroll: breaking up jac
spiderman1959: Release of the funds to us is all that is awaiting now, IMO
Trueroll: breaking up jac
JoeBud: i truly am confused
burke1: maybe some of the money was released but not all
Halasy_Policy: True, he's fine here.. it's your end
marantz03: sequence of events going forward
mooney1tx: hear jac fine
ny joe 343: Allan, in your opinion, does ER mean that we are PAID, or does it mean that there will be an announcement that we have care, custody, and control, and that we are ABOUT to be paid?
Trueroll: ok
Earl is My Name: If ER allows for us to get paid... then why arent we paid? And who's interest is he putting in front of his clients?
bigkahnman: SHORT RECAP PLEASE WAS ON PHONE AND MISSED ALOT
spiderman1959: Thanks for bringing the info Allan.
carverchick_2: read the scroll bigk
Earl is My Name: no one understands enough for a recap bigk
very_tired15: He fully expects ER by tomorrow. However, since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid, even if they are late to the game. He would be doing it to insure there is no interference.
carverchick_2: yeah that's all we got lol
bigkahnman: OK THANKS
nobull1: antacid & valium cocktail sounds in order
carverchick_2: hmmmmm
cityslicker19: always
Pr125: He... does that mean Al Hodges?
carverchick_2: yes thank you
Darren1104: Hope they don't say Bush did it
Chopperguy: why should we have to wait for EVERYONE to register with the TA.........thats rediculous
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan...we understand this is a fluid situation
acerta_1: The people that are not registered (yet) seem to be a new ingredient
ground_fog: if he is going to refile anyway,why are they going to give er tomorrow? why would the govt agree to release money tomorrow if they are going to refile anyway ..makes no sense
mrsbillyray: once er is received can they stop payment?
brettwiththevikes: folks have had a long time to register
Earl is My Name: the TA knows who the shareholders are
JoeBud: If we have ER and are paid then the "stragglers" would already be included in the payout
very_tired15: I If we get paid, then refiling is irrelevant. If we do not get paid, then I agree.
cecker48_: well I am sorry to hear he will refile on behalf of the sh that have not followed this thing like the rest of us. So now we all pay the price for people not paying attention to their own stock? Bad news.
cutglass_1: man people had enough time for T/A already, i hope a few stragglers dont hold us up
very_tired15: brb
jaylar1962_1: SOOOO will we be paid now and others as they get info later iyo?
ny joe 343: Those people will not hold us up! If payment begins, it will continue until everyone is paid.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: ok allan..so basically.. we get paid..but the suit is still out there cause their are people who are registered?
JoeBud: This is or should be based on the master shareholder list
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: sorry..who arent registered
pardonmi: there are alot of people who dont know anything about the ta
ny joe 343: are NOT registered
very_tired15: sorry.. backj
Chopperguy: exactly Lucy
cityslicker19: if we ask a different plaintiff we might get a different answer ....
Chopperguy: not our problem that people dont keep up wiht their investments
cecker48_: That is their own fault IMO
cityslicker19: jk
jimbos_4: that makes no since ,,, last I heard there were only 8k signed up on TA site ,,,, there are 30 to 50k share holders
cecker48_: agree chopper
cityslicker19:
audreyhepburn_1: well if someone would make a good announcement there would be a rush on the TA!
carverchick_2: so he will allow them a certain amout of time for those people to be contacted and then he withdraws the suit?
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well..thats not the point.. point is.. do we have to wait til they get notified before anything is paid out is the question
Crashigan: What would the difference be for people who registered and who didn't? Won't the money go into a trust?
gmls66: Even though we registered already...TRansfer Agents I have spoken with at Transferonline keeps telling me that we do not need to register...>>> Aaron...especially seemed annoyed that we were bothering at all...
jymskee:
cecker48_: 100% agree audrey
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: so there must be a time frame on getting paid. sounds like that 30 day deal they were takling about
acerta_1: aren't investors not expected to keep track of their investments?
greasetx: dont think so lucy
carverchick_2: yes lucy.... there you go
JoeBud: But payment would go to all registered sharheolders on the master shareholder list
Chopperguy: now we have to wait for 30k people to register..............that could take months
spiderman1959: At this time there is no need to register with the T/A......If you have your certs that's all that counts at this time.
very_tired15: We do not have to wait until they are notified.. he never said a word about that
Crashigan: no sound
JoeBud: doesn't atter if they're registered with the TA
cecker48_: that is correct gmls66
Earl is My Name: When I registered at the TA it took just a few moments... and was practically automatic. They had all my share information already... didnt have to enter a thing except my cert #
geezer_49: no sound jac
spiderman1959: That's not me saying that......it's the T/A.
Halasy_Policy: air jac
carverchick_2: jac no sound....
billme_3: they have the master shareholder list that don't need the TA--IMO
lasko7: That sounds better Allan
pardonmi: it sounds like the people who are not on the boards whpo are shareholders need to be notifide
Trueroll: same with me Earl.
unclebuddyshere: The re-filing would be to cover those who have not recieved their cert or regrestered with the new TA. It would give them to get that done before the crooks were able to cheet them out of their money. aimho
acerta_1: open mouth for sound Jac
audreyhepburn_1: so do we have er and will there be an announcement of some kind in the next 36 hours?
TN1955: no sound
rcar202: This makes no sense...shareholders who are not registered should have nothing to do with the SEC releasing the money...sounds fishy to me
ChuckWheat: OPEN MIC----- JAC
JoeBud: Earl that'sbecause they have a database of shareholders on the master list
marantz03: no audio
iseeyou-9: no sound jac
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: i just dont understand.. its not like the govt is just agreeing to pay x amount to each..its the trust divided between shs..
jimbos_4: right spider ,,,, thats what the TA said
very_tired15: Just wait until tomorrow and see how it unfolds.. if everything AH told me is truthful, then we will al be pleased
spiderman1959: I think we just need to prepare for funds to be released and documents to sign to take receipt of same.
cecker48_: another stall tactic imo
BATES BATES: no sound jac
gram-pa D: nothing jac
caseco_1_1: no sound from jac
ATW100: still no sound jac
mrsbillyray:
carverchick_2: JAC!!!!! NO SOUND!!!!!!!!!
mooney1tx: no sound jac
cecker48_: no sound jac
Crashigan: No sound
very_tired15: Remember one thing I have always postulated? It is all about the interest. They will keep it until the last possible day and believe that day is the 17th.
antony_54: no sound
allrich: looks like the Media blitz is on Friday
spiderman1959: And I also say don't shoot the messenger.
gram-pa D: y
BATES BATES: yes
pardonmi: now you do
mrsbillyray: yes
Halasy_Policy: yes
caseco_1_1: y
Crashigan: y
mooney1tx: yes
jimbos_4: y
acerta_1: yup
carverchick_2: there you are!
Trueroll: yeppers
carverchick_2: yes
Paco49: SI
jymskee:
marantz03: good
antony_54: y
honie6: Jac, this is so confusing, I talked to the new TA, and they had all my info, and i was told, by the new TA I did not need to register ? All our info was just passed on to the new TA.
karrotsign: Very tired the Ta will be involved in the payment process?
wwdyer: y
panda_ent: y
spiderman1959: Volume is not a problem
ChuckWheat: Allan...how much confidence does AH have of ER....is he certain, near certain, or just believing it will happen?
cityslicker19: on day 44
allrich: the TA knows all bonifide shareholders already IMO
cityslicker19: LOL
tukcid: when i checked with the ta i was already registered. So if you did as the company requested and faxed in your certs then you should be good. if you did not well momma says stupid is as stupid does
ground_fog: if the refile is scaring them to pay tomorrow, it makes no sense to refile anyway..the govt would surely make sure if they release money..no refile
very_tired15: Cuch.. he spoke to me with great certainty
crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right?
very_tired15: Chuck
spiderman1959: I orginally thought the T/A would advise us but not sure if that will be the case now.
acerta_1: I hope money first then refile ... I'll be bummed to wait for the refiling to work out
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan
marantz03: Alan do we know if those that are registered are the un shareholders or a combination of Bonifieds and un shareholders???
ground_fog: alan, with all due respect , he was certain in january according to the plaintiffs
marantz03: are not registered
spiderman1959: There will be more than that happen I expect.
ny joe 343: crunchyfrogs, that is what I understand out of this as well.
unclebuddyshere: Agree Chrunchy
nfcross: Jacbert I agree
Trueroll: i agree with lucy......makes senze
Wheres-da-BEEF: Just Tell US.............give everyone 30 days to register
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: is it the ones not registered or the ones who are left in street shares?
cecker48_: Then why would the TA tell everyone they don't need to register?
vuurvliegjes: ga jacbert
nobull1: and it sound wierd
ny joe 343: (1:42 PM) crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right? > Yes, IMO
Wheres-da-BEEF: nope not going to be pretty if he refiles........if he has the ER and control of money then there is no reason to Refile
spiderman1959: Registering with the T/A is not part of the equation
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: i agree spidey
Earl is My Name: drip
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: it might mean street shares
oscart01: I agree also, spidy
carverchick_2: maybe lucy
Wheres-da-BEEF: no need to Refile IMO.......makes no sense Alan
spiderman1959: Hi Lucy.....that's the way it is
ground_fog: what is going to motivate the govt to release money if al is going to refile anyway?
JoeBud: REGISTERING WITH THE TA DOES NOT MAKE YOU A SHAREHOLDER. THE TA HAS A MASTER SHAREHOLDER LIST --- WHETHER YOU SIGN UP WITH THEM OR NOT
Wheres-da-BEEF: ER = we have the money
nobull1: something smells bad
ny joe 343: Jac, we may very well get the info from Al, or the T/A, or Allan, for that matter. We simply do not know yet.
audreyhepburn_1: somebody of authority speak out to us please
mrsbillyray: I agree jac
Wheres-da-BEEF: they can say no distribution for 90 days
ground_fog: if im the govt im saying you refile no release
vickes_11: craziness!
rcar202: right spiderman
greasetx: electronics lucy?
Dumptruck9: Is there a link to AL posting???
twinnone: Agree, Jac
royalstarofthelion: Could be a game of chicken , dont refile we'll release , he says , ok release and I wont refile , imo
jimbos_4: we need to here from AH himself
cityslicker19: ER= touchdown!
karrotsign: I apologize Very Tired when did you speak to Hodges? I missed the info
cecker48_: agree jimbo
caseco_1_1: lucy do you mean electronics? the uncerted shareholders?
CMKX1234: irefiling is to insure money actually makes it into our hands ...is what treffy said
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: yes case
jakodiamondz: Not pretty is ok. My depends won't be pretty after we're paid either.
ghowiepharts: How much would they know to pay us if others arn't registered with the TA???
Earl is My Name: No one encouraged shareholders to register at the TA. No one made a big deal about it. In fact... they downplayed the importance of it.
very_tired15: We will not have to wait for the non-registered or non-bonifieds to get notice
spiderman1959: I think we may be reading more into the facts than that which exsists. JMO but maybe I am missing something
very_tired15: He said nothing about that... he just said to insure that there is no further interfertence
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
lasko7: Thanks Allan
ATW100: thanks allan
ghowiepharts: Allan, hope so
moneyinthebank_1: this could very well be settled at the 12 hour? last minute ER?
carverchick_2: i think lucy is right it may mean shares still held at the brokers
twinnone: Right, DCK
carverchick_2: imo
ny joe 343: This could also be a case where we get paid, and they commit the lawsuit to History, by refiling with different legal language...
ujellis: Small recap PLEASE
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: we were told by the company TO register.. actually.. twice. but the ta tells you no need
Crashigan: Allan, how can they interfere with money they paid, that will got into a trust?
spiderman1959: NO THAT IS NOT RIGHT
Pr125: not logical in my view
JoeBud: Payment goes to bonifide shareholders. Bonafide shareholders are on the master shareholder list
iseeyou-9: oh boy!
breatdane1: i told my CPA what he needed to do.he said"i'll wait till i get paid".
rcar202: if this is the case it sounds to me like more smoke so shareholders don't get in an uproar when he refiles
oscart01: agree pardonmi
Earl is My Name: They KNOW who all the shareholders are.
spiderman1959: Things regarding distribution have changed
cmkxer: tyler have been telling us one thing and al is telling us another...i trust al
ATW100: Allan....will Hodges give an announcement? Or will be notified tomorrow by the TA?
cecker48_: They have had years to do this.
nobull1: houston we have a problem
dck004: good point pard
Darren1104: I'm sure Al has eyes and ears listening here
cityslicker19: its 4th down...going or throwing?
Wheres-da-BEEF: ALAN SO WHY DID MR. HODGES SAY FOR THE LAST 1.5 MONTHS THAT HE WOULD NOT REFILE......................HE KNEW ALL ALONG THAT NOT EVERYONE WAS REGISTERED WITH THE T.A. --------THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW
vickes_11: stall, stall, stall.
geezer_49: I think its for people who havent registered their certs
ATW100: The company told us to register...period
Wheres-da-BEEF: makes no sense!!!
jaylar1962_1: That is why there is a TA . To handle shareholders...If we start getting paid word will get out.
ChuckWheat: I think we're missing the important news here...Attorney Hodges has told Allan he has great confidence in getting ER by tomorrow (Allan, please correct me if I've mischaracterized this)
royalstarofthelion: Yes Dck I think that's what's happening jmo
very_tired15: Perhaps, here is the fear.. and this is my opinion.. what if ER comes, he dismisses the case tand then before peopel can get paid, someone interferes? The lawsuit will insure that such actions can not happen.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: yes
Wheres-da-BEEF: HODGES HAS KNOWN FOR months and months that not eeryone is registered
ujellis: Very - Can you please do a small recap
spiderman1959: That is correct
Crashigan: That makes sense to me Allan
Wheres-da-BEEF: Alan are you saying we dont have an indpendent Trustee?
Earl is My Name: they know the shareholders and the shares that each shareholder has
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
moneyinthebank_1: allan, i think yo are correct, imo
ny joe 343: Beef, he may be refiling, after we are 75% paid. Let's not freak out. We've come this far, give it another day! Plenty of time to get our backs up, if need be.
ATW100: BEEF....i doubt this was that planned out....
Earl is My Name: without anyone registering
JoeBud: makes no sense to me. if they have ER then they would have control over the money
crunchyfrogs: IMO, if you had a cert issued in your name and you are not one of the bad guys, your shares are registered with the TA. Just because you haven't registered with the TA for an account, doesn't mean your shares are not registered imo.
jaylar1962_1: SO could he not files a new suit in that event?
Wheres-da-BEEF: independent trustee's ensure that nobody can wrongfully take our money
ground_fog: very tired, what is the motivation for the govt to release money tomorrow if al refiles tomorrow anyway?
nobull1: i feel sick is it just me
gram-pa D: I am with you CW
Earl is My Name: They know who has certs.
tigerherb: Ujellis, Allan's info will be reposted later
JoeBud: If they dont control the money they dont have ER
oscart01: Think about this: The PURPOSE of a sting is to catch the crooks.... not to get shareholders paid. Those in charge are focused, still, on their ultimate goal.... IMO
Wheres-da-BEEF: Plus the TA has told people that there is no need to register...........They have our addresses and names
Earl is My Name: and probably have a good grasp on those that dont
spiderman1959: We have to realize that Al H has to cover all the bases. If not he could leave us or some of us vonerable.
ujellis: can't wait till later....
very_tired15: PLease do not let this information change your perspective about tomorrow.. just let it see...
ground_fog: the govt is not going to release money unless they have an ironclad agreement no refile imo,common sense
spiderman1959: I was too Don
very_tired15: just let it play out for tomorrow...
dck004: thx allan
Wheres-da-BEEF: Alan........Yes or No.........did Hodges tell you he would probably Refile or is that just your theory?
jacbert: thanks Allan
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan
audreyhepburn_1: so is that when we will hear from them on Thursday?
JoeBud: BECAUSE OF THE MASTER SHAREHOLDER LIST
gram-pa D: Right Allan!
JoeBud: YIKES
spiderman1959: Friday is Constitution Day, Sept 17th
LBM0RRIS: is the master shareholder list the the list the TA would have?
pardonmi: never let your upper hand down imo
karrotsign: Very tired you expect news tomorrow from Al?
very_tired15: Even if ER happens, not everyone will collect by tomorrow... to keep pressure that there will not be interference, that is the issue and the reason for refiling..
ny joe 343: he may be refiling, after we are 75% paid. Let's not freak out. We've come this far, give it another day! Plenty of time to get our backs up, if need be.
CMKX1234: treffy i hope you are right....i am feeling chest pains....
very_tired15: I fully expect news byt AH tomorrow
crunchyfrogs: IMO, shareholders who are not registered with the TA are those who hold electronic shares on which certs were never issued.
breatdane1: what does er mean?
tom4212: If there is a gag order on the news media I would think there is a gag order on Hodges and the team
Wheres-da-BEEF: still makes no sense alan
karrotsign: Ty Very tired
mrsbillyray: so the media will be able to cover it tomorrow along with the refile
iseeyou-9: here we go a new spin on it
Wheres-da-BEEF: if we get ER there is no need to refile plain and simple
marantz03: i've worn the edge out, lolo
carverchick_2: as usual lol
BTHotwheels: Hello... Im just getting back in... any thing new to report?
lasko7: Understood Allan thanks
yungmlnr36: Whoever is releasing money...Why wait until the very LAST day for ER...
pooch1: I'm on the edge of my chair Jac
JoeBud: hurting shareholders all over again imo thru lack of official communication
jymskee: JAC is a cool cucumber. It is what it is
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
ground_fog: very tired, once again, why would the govt agree to releasing money if al refiles anyway..if im the govt i'm saying ..you refile? no soup for you
jaylar1962_1: And at that point if there are SH who are screwed out of their $ they could sue the pants off the wrong doers
Wheres-da-BEEF: everything is Crystal Cloudy as usual like royal likes to say
very_tired15: Beef,. he said he would do it no matter what... because they waited so long, he did not want to make us vulnerable and only dfep-endent on them keeping their word that there would be no interference..
Crashigan: Beef, until you get money in hand then it is over
carverchick_2: crunchy i agree with your statement above
unclebuddyshere: Thanks Allen. I have been expecting this.
ATW100: crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right?
breatdane1: jacbert.. what does er mean?thanks
nobull1: im sitting on the edge of my chair on the edge of a cliff
mrsbillyray: yep
very_tired15: I believe that tyo be true...
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
yungmlnr36: Allan... dd you speak with Al today?
cityslicker19: next to my GOT CMKX? bumper sticker i put a
Trueroll: economic receipt
ground_fog: Hodges should never have been so emphatic about no refile after being lied to for nine months..bad judgement
mrsbillyray: standoff
breatdane1: thanks true
Wheres-da-BEEF: So Alan if thats true then the refile will be filled with FLUFF? bc if Al Hodges puts damning information into the Refile............why on earth would the government tolerate that?
Skylope: I think it is a wise move for Al
ny joe 343: Let me say something here... Al has brought us this far, and if he announces ER tomorrow, and we start getting paid, I firmly believe he will do whatever he thinks he HAS to do, to protect us and get us ALL paid. If that means a Refile, after money starts transferring, no problem, IMO. It is insurance!
very_tired15: yes
JoeBud: headbang
jimbos_4: right Royal
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
spiderman1959: Waht would you do?
very_tired15: yes
pardonmi: he has to keep the hammer
carverchick_2:
jacbert: Sounds like Alladin and the Lamp
Wheres-da-BEEF: Royal with damning/incriminating information in the Refile?
karrotsign: IMO the Government will wait till the eleventh hour.
unclebuddyshere: Agree Royal
lasko7: Agreed joe
ATW100: sounds good NYJO...just pay us first...lol
carverchick_2: AH has to keep the upper hand imo
Skylope: he does not have a choice
vickes_11: i'm going to start telling the IRS and creditors that their payment is IMMENINT!
nobull1: i hope so royal
burke1: remember we have a lying, steeling, cheating GOV.
Halasy_Policy: good point, royal, and it would be very nice if Al told us this directly
spiderman1959: This shows that he is a great lawyer
carverchick_2: keep the offense not play defense
gscraig: SQUACK!
jimbos_4: only way it could happen to protect us ,,,, royal
Trueroll: i agree with you royal...makes perfect sense
caseco_1_1: got his spurs on.
Earl is My Name: shareholders can be grouped 3 ways... 1] no certs; 2] certs; 3] certs that are registered at the TA. #2 and #3 can overlap because not all cert holders registered. But the TA knows everyone and share count in groups 2 and 3. I dont know what they know about group #1.
ny joe 343: Right
JoeBud: Why wait until the deadline?
burke1: yes royal
ontheroad_1: I have to agree that it would make sense to refile just because the powers that be have pushed the payment to the last day
Darren1104: vickes, good luck lol
Wheres-da-BEEF: With damning/incriminating information in the Refile?
spiderman1959: I can assure you that he is well prepared
moneyinthebank_1: i agree
spiderman1959: no way
Trueroll: 100%
caseco_1_1:
very_tired15: If we would have had ER a month ago, he would not be talking refile... maybe even a few days ago... but they can tell him they have ER on a promise, and then they screw us.. that is the poiint
karrotsign: I agree Royal he must act.
marantz03: right on Royal
nobull1: yes royal leverage
DodgeRam: yes i agree royal
JoeBud: For pressure it would have made more sense to file a month ago
cityslicker19: for 44 days NO file NO file No file
mrsbillyray: your right royal
unclebuddyshere: He has the what Royal? lol
PMAKUA63:
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: royal
oscart01: IF he refiles ..... then he is free to release the bomb.
carverchick_2: that's true to
carverchick_2: too
ny joe 343: Regarding what Lucy said, he has the option of changing the legal language, so as not to get in trouble by refiling, after payment has started.
spiderman1959: The STING IS OVER.....has to come from the government
pardonmi: lol
xmarxdaspot_1donegone: Will Al Have to show his hand when he refiles
nobull1: now he should tell us
jimbos_4: if we get ER ,,, we know we are getting paid ,,,, by AH filing it protects us
cmkx_thehunter: That's most logic I've heard today Royal
karrotsign: Y
carverchick_2: stay the course
very_tired15: AH can dismiss a=fter he is 100% sure we all have access
tigerherb: Who ever blinks first loses
lasko7: That's what Allan is saying IMO
Jay247Atl_1: time is up now!
moneyinthebank_1: huge
Jay247Atl_1: Just Do It!
Trueroll: correct ~!!!!
ny joe 343: very_tired15: AH can dismiss a=fter he is 100% sure we all have access > That's all that needs to be said.
DrStrangeGlove: this is exciting - I no longer have to deliver babies if we get ER!
rcar202: royal i know what you are saying.but refile to me means just more and more time we wait imo
spiderman1959: They don't want the evidence in the public view.....the markets are too fragile to allow it.
very_tired15: REmember, it is all about interest.... they were going to keep the money until the last possible date..
extex95_1: Al is a very smart man. Has all bases covered. Plan A, Plan B and so on. Contingincy planning.
PMAKUA63: kick their butt al
jburke5: If he files, then the damaging information cannot be taken back. Someone is pretty stupid to force his hand.
lasko7: Thanks Allan...bbl have a great afternoon...and thanx for sharing Allan
JoeBud: IF HE NEEDED A HAMMER WHY DIDN'T HE REFILE A MONTH AGO? TO KEEP ON PRESSURE?
karrotsign: THe gov has fought us every step of the way imo
jimbos_4: me too
gscraig: Is that a hammer in your pocket or are you glad to see me? LOL
cecker48_: It is way to hard to keep faith when you promise, delay, promise, delay.
carverchick_2: gs LOLOL
spiderman1959: They had better not underestimate Mr. Hodges. That would be bad for them/
Halasy_Policy: this is all well and fine... if this is the case... but would only be reassuring if Al himself states it directly to us this way from his mouth to our ears
jacbert: low scotty
PMAKUA63: royal
extex95_1: It's just like a Commander in the battle field.
karrotsign: Yes Thank you
pardonmi: never throw your hand in
nobull1: if he refiles what is the last possible date we get payed
ny joe 343: My vote is to support Al, at least for the time being. He has shown his stuff, and I believe that he will take us to the Finish Line. Relax people.
rcar202: thats right joe why wait to refile???
vickes_11: I say throw the sledge hammer down now. They have screwed US long to far!
gscraig: scotty, talk up!
tigerherb: Yes Thank You Allan
Jay247Atl_1: Just refile today
karrotsign: Amen Scott
very_tired15: I am personally sorry for first delivering info that there is no need to refile.. and changing it.. I do not think I was used, but I believe the change is a genuine and well-thought out one
marantz03: would be very nice Halsay!!
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
tigerherb:
nobull1: royal
yungmlnr36: thanks for the info, Allan
carverchick_2: we appreciate everything you can bring us allan
cmkxer: hey allan, if the gov is going to keep the interest, then they shouldn't tax us for the rest of our life.
geezer_49: royal
cecker48_:
happytime3: Will AH communicate to us himself?
nobull1: ouch peach seeds
unclebuddyshere: Royal your on a roll today. lol
extex95_1: Allen everyone has to be flexable when it comes to cmkx.
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
cityslicker19:
cityslicker19: 91/2
ChuckWheat: No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy
extex95_1: yes u have. LOL
geezer_49: uh oh
marantz03: exactly
ny joe 343: Scenario #1: ER is announced, Moneys begin to transfer (thursday), Friday, Al refiles, Monday through Friday next week, all payments received, Lawsuit dropped.
moneyinthebank_1: allen, could we still be getting the packets delivered today or tomorrow?
carverchick_2: poker face.........
pardonmi: maheu at his best
marantz03: knowing it would get out
Trueroll: you are spot on royal
spiderman1959: And he did NOT IMO
nobull1: what is the new date if refile and the gov is milking us for max intrest
very_tired15: Craig, he is going to refile to insure that the ER is real and that we all can be paid
pardonmi: confusion
Pr125: NY Joe that makes sense.
billme_3: question--- _______who will get the $$$ for all the shares that people have passed on or just forgot about things-where will that $$ go?
iseeyou-9: the re-file is not a shock to me...
spiderman1959: He didn't
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....?
ujellis: Or will he hold back
flugelbinder: refile or no refile,as long as we get payed !
very_tired15: since they waited to the last kminute, they could falsely represent that ER is real, but then interfere.. then we would have let the lasuit go and had one of our big hammers taken away
jimbos_4: nyjoe good plan but they would have 30 day to get all the money out to share holders
moneyinthebank_1: he wont show his "hand" but he will have to give something up in the refile?
spiderman1959: he has performed.....in true Maheu form IMO
cecker48_: We all carry our own crosses to bear, including this stock. immo
ny joe 343: Scenario # 1 is the only one I am entertaining, at least until Friday. No need to be upset here. Personally, I believe we are GOLDEN, already!
pardonmi: spider thats maheu
spiderman1959: Yes sir Pardonmi
very_tired15: no sound
rcar202: nyjoe i bet you are wrong
nobull1: is the media gag really over?
ground_fog: alan, can we expect another copy andpaste update tomorrow for hodges?
Lynn64: yes he does alan
ny joe 343: jimbos, AH would not let it go on that long, no way.
moneyinthebank_1: I BELIEVE FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, WE ARE DONE>>>
cecker48_: I sure would like to see that "hammer"! :0
crunchyfrogs: It is understandable that Al will refile if the ER comes at the deadline date for refiling. ER does not mean we have money in our hands. It is wise on Al's part to refile to ensure ER is followed by distribution.
very_tired15: you tell me ground
spiderman1959: He has kept the goal in front of him.
billme_3: file no matter what keep the threat of exposure-a reality--just do it AH
1970moneymaker1970: what do you think rcar?
BATES BATES: I really hope he doesnt just refile and leave us in the dark
billme_3: just file baby
ny joe 343: rcar, my bets were placed 7 years ago. I am not interested in any more bets.
spiderman1959: The man has video tape and audio to prove his case.
very_tired15: is there sound?
rcar202: refile means 30 more days
billme_3: just like a squeeze
Lynn64: yes alan
carverchick_2: yes allan
extex95_1: yes vt
happytime3: yes
BATES BATES: A refile with no info to shareholders will be a disaster
geezer_49: yes
very_tired15: I have to reboot
ground_fog: alan,you didnt answer my question, but if im the govt im not releasing funds if al is refiling anyway
Darren1104: what if
unclebuddyshere: If Al re-files the gag order will be extended by the judge. jmo
spiderman1959: They will be screwed. Well said
moneyinthebank_1: correct
PMAKUA63: amen
geezer_49: When Attorney Hodges does tell me it is done, I will still remain calm, slowly get out my chair, walk over to the dining room table, make sure I am calm, then I will leap up on the table, punch my fist in the air, holler in an undignified way...hey I am only human. Please stay grounded......Thank you, BHollenegg
spiderman1959: Doesn't matter
caseco_1_1: lol pardon
ny joe 343: rcar, that is a possibility, it is certainly not, a GIVEN.
jfarn: Then why the hell did tell multiple that we will NEVER refile
tigerherb: yes
Earl is My Name: Now that would be an exciting attachment to the refile spiderman: spiderman1959: The man has video tape and audio to prove his case.
geezer_49: y
pardonmi: yes
jimbos_4: y
Lynn64: y
diamondman_1: y
jacbert: good
PMAKUA63: y
jfarn: that is tipping your hand...
cecker48_: yy
mahastock1_1: You got to know when to hold them. Know when to fold them. Know when to walk away and, know when to run.
caseco_1_1: good cruncy
spiderman1959: yes perfect
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....? Or will he hold back
burke1: IMO since we know this now, he has already refiled
Lynn64: think you need a scroll test
flugelbinder: Now we will be happy with the refile,lol
BATES BATES: prob burke
diamondman_1: I heard the frogs a crunching
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....? ° Or will he hold back
flugelbinder: refile no refile
cityslicker19: the ol switcharoo
BATES BATES: what if he refiles and we havent received any ER ?
msMarkus415: My question is if he refiles will that be open to the public or can the courts keep it quiet. If it becomes public record can the court have the information sealed?
pardonmi: correct
mahastock1_1: Who trusts the government, raise your hand.
geezer_49: exactly
Crashigan: Its not over until we get money in our hand
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS:
ChuckWheat: if we get ER...it's over for those who have been paying attention and registered IMO. Filing in this scenario only helps those who have not been paying attention
Lynn64: what if he's waited the full amount of time and we see nothing but more delay?
jimbos_4: right
tigerherb:
royalstarofthelion: Excatly
pardonmi: recourse is where it lies
BATES BATES: yes lynn
ground_fog: he should ahve said that all along thoughm instead of leading us on...surely he knew this plan yesterday and was prepared for this
jymskee: right on Crunchy
BATES BATES: my thoughts too
ny joe 343: The old Bouncing Ball Syndrome... Let's see what really happens tomorrow and Friday. Not blowing a cork, because of "What-If's".
cityslicker19: why havent we been paid?
brettwiththevikes: one press of a button pays everyone at once..could be done in minutes...seems more to this than we are seeing
rcar202: than why wait 45 days to refile,makes no sense
ground_fog: he had to have been prepared for this scenario..so why friggin insist no refile..thats my problem..oh well
nobull1: if you turn over the evidence the judge see's it but he also has proof we got payed that would satisfy the demand for the release of the trusts and it over????
very_tired15: I would agree... do you want to trust the powers that be to suddenly do what they say? Governments are notorious for breaking their words.. ask the American Indians, the Japanese Internment victims, Black Farmers, so man others...
pardonmi: i dont allen
Earl is My Name: If there is any merit to that press gag... and many press outlets are so eager to report on this story... then you better believe that there are newspaper articles and television content already written up ready to add Al Hodges' information and evidence...
carverchick_2: pfffffft i doubt it
audreyhepburn_1: this is a good strategy when dealing with miscreats
billme_3: Alen if you are a Plaintiff -you must request him to re-file
very_tired15: However, we NEED news of ER TOMORROW.. not Saturday, but TOMORROW
jymskee: refiling is just an insurance policy
billme_3: he works for you
mahastock1_1: very tired. that is why I would have filed it the next day.JMO
mahastock1_1: no extra time
ground_fog: very tired, Hodges should have expected this and not been so emphatic about no refile imo
jimbos_4: or today very-tired
BATES BATES: I am thinking about cleaning my house, but considering I might have a new house tomorrow, ill wait lol
very_tired15: or today...
pardonmi: and he gave them an extra 15 days
ny joe 343: As disappointed as I am with all of the delays to date, I am confident that we are on the precipice of massive success. I WILL NOT turn negative at this juncture.
cecker48_: Hope your right jymskee
pardonmi: so there is no excuse for the gov
karrotsign: Very tired how long does Hodges have to refile?
very_tired15: UNtil Friday the 17th
BATES BATES: friday
pardonmi: they are playing with the wrong man
unclebuddyshere: Ground-fog: It was just another card that had to be plaied. jmo
karrotsign: Ty Very Tired
Earl is My Name: If I (and you) cant start spending my (your) money... it would be negligent not to refile... and refile good. Embarass them. And throw in the kitchen sink.
spiderman1959: not a chance in H*** he will let his guard down
doggoneit_1: I wish he would refile and tell them to stick it where the sun dont shine. lol
jimbos_4: I thought it was 4:00pm tomorrow very-tired
erthtunes: gm guys
ujellis: Very when did you talk to Al...?
ny joe 343: I think I'll go clean out the garage.
royalstarofthelion: yes
pardonmi: he gave them an extra 15 days
msMarkus415: Can they seal the court documents if he drops the case?
very_tired15: I think they knew how long it would take for Basel to be done.. they used our money for recapitalization
spiderman1959: there is no need
ujellis: man sure do sound like he has proof
new day_20: Joe...Is that so you will have room to put your money?
erthtunes: exactly marantz- that was my point weeks ago- he has to re-file
jymskee: not unexpected that they will wait till the last second
happytime3: if the gag is over they are really taking a chance in having the evidence publicized
very_tired15: I spoke to AH yesterday
cecker48_: If he refiles anyway no matter what, then that gives them a reason to delay even longer.
cecker48_: imo
new day_20: Or getting ready to sell it...
ChuckWheat: agreed...by refiling he preserves his ability to continue action until this thing is done
Crashigan: 7 percent????
ujellis: thanks
Crashigan: I didn't know that
ny joe 343: LOL NewDay, no... I wish I HAD a garage, LOL
erthtunes: untill we all have been paid- you gotta hold the big hammer
unclebuddyshere: Remember that the SEC will still have 30 days after Al re-files.
ChuckWheat: personally, I see no bad news in this update
iseeyou-9: just a tea spoon of sugar helps the medicine go down, in the most delightful way IMO
BATES BATES: y
pardonmi: yes
geezer_49: y
gram-pa D: y
cecker48_: LOL iseeyou
tigerherb: yes
rcar202: that is soooo right uncle
iseeyou-9:
erthtunes: we all take it too the wire- do we pay our bills early? most of us don't
spiderman1959: They best not push Al to make evidence public
jaylar1962_1: Two points....if they indeed get to keep some or all interest then they will wait till the last minute, other is if he does get ER and still files will they push this out the 30 day response time the Sec has to answer.
ny joe 343: There's no WAY that Al would do this, if it wasn't in O U R best interests. Why Bother?
ujellis: Very - When Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile Or will he hold back...?
very_tired15: I would imagine that he would wait until thurs or fri...
ratnaraj: Even if/when Al refiles it buys the gov't 30 days to respond.
nobull1: better mix a little prozac in with that teaspoon of sugar
wodan11: this must be it me and flugel at the same time on vacation pffff
very_tired15: ujells.. deoends on if ER comes first
zuki2004: is there an update from Al today???
very_tired15: depends
happytime3: maybe AH is putting them on notice that he is planning to refile so they produce the ER
ujellis: k thanks
ujellis: man I need a Drink
spiderman1959: How many settlements are made on the courthouse steps?
nobull1:
Earl is My Name: If this law suit died... aren't there 39,993 other shareholders that could bring the same sort of law suit? And really pour on the damaging evidence?
spiderman1959: Right on
Lynn64: there's always a way to spin every delay to the positive...
moneyinthebank_1: exactly, on the court house steps
happytime3: Well we really did not think this was gonna be easy given the history behind CMKX
fiddlehead_39a: Wodan,,hope you have a nice vacation
johncraig_1_1: I have only one thing to say....PAY US AND PAY US NOW!
very_tired15: just hang in there folks.. nothing has changed in substance.. he still is confident that ER is coming this week... he is just insuring they follow through with it
ny joe 343: Well, if the lid comes off the press gag tomorrow, and Al refiles, and they jerk us around, this will become a VERY public story in no time at all. I don't see that happening.
jymskee: If he refiles then the press balckout is lifted then we see the hammer on the news stations . Thats what they have to prevent
wodan11: ty
jimbos_4: the refile needs to be done by tomorrow at 4:00PM ,,,, very-tired count the days again ,,, don't want AH to miss that date
maximiliaan11: Wodan where you going?
unclebuddyshere: I want to see someone deliver 3.87tril. to the courthouse steps. lol
msMarkus415: Could he refile in the judges chambers?
flugelbinder: lol wodan,i am leaving tomorrow too
CMKX1234: if we got paid a long time ago...many would have lost most of it...and that's a fact imo
Crashigan: Allan does he seem more confident than past times?
wodan11: nor de zee in holland me de paarden
flugelbinder: we both picked the right date to go on vacation
fiddlehead_39a: Hey Flugel,,you also
flugelbinder: yes
maximiliaan11: pietzakken
Earl is My Name: If money isnt flowing into our mattresses by 4PM tomorrow its negligent not to refile. JMO
Should we start up a penny stock company?
The name of the company absolutely has to be Penny Stockholm Syndrome Inc.
The CMKX TA alone could provide a "surgery desperately needed" list of several thousand names
Blame the internet for the mass epidemic known as Xer madness. It is amazing how the Xers rant on about sting theories while consistently ignoring the RICO charges.
Re: Hodges Poll for this upcoming week.
File Date September 17th
1 Hodges files the amended complaint with no new sufficient evidence
2 Hodges files the amended complaint and adds documented evidence/names those involved
3 Hodges does not file amended complaint and drops the Bivens lawsuit
4 Amended complaint not necessary because trust fund money has been released
#1 dia duit - janice shell - pantherj
fung_derf waiting for jimmy to vote first. lol
Gussie reminds me of that crazy preacher in Florida. Anything to get his fifteen minutes
FWIW, I doubt gussie did talk to Urban. He wants as you put it his 15 minutes of fame.
Other than the fact that he is just plain nutso and a dedicated attention seeker who's ego is bigger than his brain
That also could be apply to gussie.
At one time gus wanted folks to believe he had a line to Urban. gus has confess to having Andy Hill help him out a few times in the pass. Now gus was caught telling a fib that he won't own up to.
4profit
So gus.....were you lying then or now? Ohhh, wait......you're lying all the time.
"By: gusjarvis
13 May 2010, 10:08 AM EDT
Rating: You rated it: Msg. 932670 of 932702
Jump to msg. #
TO ALL REAL SHAREHOLDERS OUT THERE
WE HAVE STARTED ACTION TO ONLY DEMAND OUR OWN COMPANY DO WHAT IS RIGHT NOTHING ELSE. WE ONLY WILL DEMAND THEY VERIFY OUR MONEY FOR US OR WE WILL DEMAND TO KNOW WHY THEY DID NOTHING AGAINST ALL THOSE THAT HARMED US WHEN THEY WERE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I ENCOURAGE ALL WHO SUPPORT THIS TO BE VERY CALM AND RATIONAL AND JUST DEMAND THE TRUTH, THIS IS NOT A WITCH HUNT AS I SUPPORT THE WHOLE TEAM, AL, BILL, THE WHOLE TEAM THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR YEARS BUT KNOW THEIR HANDS ARE TIED WHEN IT COMES TO TELLING US THE TRUTH.
IF WE ARE NOT PAID BY FRIDAY WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF QUESTIONS WE DEMAND ANSWER TO FROM THE OG, NOT ASK POLITELY AND NOT ACCEPT THEIR FAKE UPDATES. THEY WILL BE FORCED TO ANSWER OUR REAL QUESTIONS, AND IF THIS WEEK ENDS LIKE THE LAST THOUSAND I HOPE MANY WILL JOIN THE SIMPLE QUEST FOR TRUTH AND DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM OUR OWN COMPANY. DEMAND THEY VERIFY OUR FUNDS, THANKS
CHEERS TO ALL THE REAL SHAREHOLDERS OUT THERE THAT HAD TO ENDURE THE GAME
PS I AM NOT A PLAYER, I HAVE CONNECTION TO URBAN AND NOT FAKE, MAYBE MADE SOME MISTAKES BUT DID THE BEST I COULD, BUT NOT FAKE AND NOT LEADING ANYONE ON OR PART OF THE SCRIPT" End
DOJ doesn't quite have the same sense of humor about you passing info on to Urban. Both of you probably thought it was funny.....back then.
http://qbidtalk.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7214&page=4
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=+932670
goodolboy
Gus, again you violate the TOS here, and continue in your refusal to answer any legitimate question with a legitimate answer.
Now, let's take a look at the definition of the word "lackey," and see who here it actually applies. From Wikipedia:
A lackey or lacquey is a term for a uniformed manservant, in its original meaning (attested 1529, according to the Oxford English Dictionary).
The modern connotation of "servile follower" appeared later, in 1588 (OED).[1]
I follow no man down this CMKX road. I let clear, verifiable evidence guide me.
You stated that you have a connection with Urban. And, then we are barraged with the endless copy and paste theoretical assumptions that you post are always at suspiciously inappropriate times within certain CMKX events. That seriously suggests manipulation in an effort to delay what is already an inevitable event where certain individuals are concerned. Helping the man or men you follow maybe?
Transference... classic.
bjohns100
Re: Zeninvestor (copied form another board)
« Reply #67 Today at 8:42am »
I've looked at all the crap Gus calls evidence and it doesn't pass the sniff test. I seem to recall a time when Gus proudly proclaimed his relationship/connection with Urban and other members of the "Old Team." I'm sorry, but this guy's story changes more than his boxers.
jawz2010
I wish I saved stuff. I remember Gus posting about how he had just talked with UC way back and he was always in contact with UC. So while I may disagree with you on some things GOB, I don't disagree with you on this. Gus clearly is avoiding in my opinion.
gusjarvis
OK OK Goodolboyyy. I am Urban's cousin from the Saskatchewan trailer park, you know the one right by the dump where my Uncle drilled for garbage. My name is Bubbles Casavant, and I don't care if my Uncle screwed you pal, or the other 50 000 people. It was worth it, we got a month worth of beer and weed money, great time from what I remember.
jawz2010
Gus, why can't you just be straight and answer the question posed to you. If you want our support (and I do) I think you should at least try and satisfy things asked. I do remember you talking about being close to Urban several times. I can't remember if it was here or on another board but I do remember it. You always insinuated Urban was in control and you knew him. If you didn't just say so. If you did, just say so. It doesn't matter and shouldn't stop the things you're doing on our behalf. Thanks for answering.
gusjarvis
Re: Zeninvestor (copied form another board)
« Reply #73 Today at 12:18pm »
jawz that is ridiculous, and not one person here can copy and paste anything of the sort my friend from any of my posting history on any board as it didn't happen, I have never, ever talked to urban casavant, not once, end of story.
So any other questions
http://cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=6687&page=5
It should be a raucus good read and more fuel to get the idiot fined and disbarred. Maybe even put Squiddy's license in a little more hot water
He still seem concern about that a few days ago. It's still a mystery why an attorney would attach his name to a lawsuit with serious allegations applied, when that attorney admits to never seeing a lick of the evidence to support those allegations he has accuse the defendants of by being named as a plaintiff. And why would he not march down to Hodges office and give Al an ultimatum to see the evidence right now, or withdraw from the lawsuit immediately if he was so concern about losing his license?
(9:34 PM) very_tired15: What would you do if AH refiled, you did not agree with certain aspects of the case presented (no judgement, just not in agreement), you saw no evidence to date, you did not believe in some of your fellow plaintiffs, you believe that if the case is real, it is being compromise by loose lips, and you had 2 professional licenses that were potentially at risk if the lawsuit you had seen no evidence was unfounded?
So nothing has changed? Is Al writing the amended lawsuit this week, or is he still counting on Economic Receipt to save the day?
dck004: (1:26 PM) very_tired15: spoke to him on Saturday.. still said he is not expecting to refile and that he expects it to be done this week
very_tired15: AS of 15 minutes ago, nothing has changed.
very_tired15: I have been talking peoplein from the ledges for a long time. If it does not happen this week, someone please be sure to talk me in!
very_tired15: Payment or notice with a locked in payment date at this stage would certainly be an improvement
Current market cap for KMLD, a VOID corp, is "$4000.00"
Depends on your point of view. $4000 may be a pittance for a void mining corp, but on the other hand $4000 can buy A LOT of hot dogs.
Wow! As the "Majority Shareholder Position" in Kinti Frankie is a thousandaire!
Enzo makes a great looking Pizza
Those guys have been living on frozen pizza, grill hot dogs and cereal for weeks now! The last time I think they made a decent meal was when Ragan was still in the house. Enzo made some dish with tons of garlic in it and Britney had another bowl of cereal instead. Britney ate cereal three meals a day sometimes.
How can people eat crap like that every day?
It's gonna be tough to top last seasons' Survivor. It was the best ever
Oh, for sure it was outstanding! Hard to believe but it was way better than the previous seasons when they return with former cast members, and those were great seasons.
I just want to see some people go off on Rachel
Did you see the look on Kathy's face when Rachel was defending herself against Ragan? Rachel claimed she was not responsible for all the fights in the house and right there you could see Kathy wanted to strangle Rachel. Hilarious!
Although this was a lousy season it was the best jury house season, imo. If they did a full hour on Wednesday about the jury house it save the season for me.
I've never seen a person play a worse game than Brendan
There have been worse players than Brendan but, they never made it to the jury house. lol
The Brigade believes they will all be back for All Stars but, I can't see anyone but Hayden coming back. Enzo is Grodner's favorite but he sucks at competitions..........so who knows.
Is this guy an OLD 66 board Amigo?
Honestly I can't remember. CW has been around for quite sometime.
needdiamonds, don't forget to vote.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=5440083
He may one day surprise us
No doubt! lol
But jimmy has said the fat lady was tuning up so many times before.
I voted 10 times for brit to get the 25K.
This year I'm indifferent who wins the 25k. Heck, they can give the money to Rachel for all I care just as long as no one currently in the house receives it, especially Enzo who believes he is getting the 25k for sure.
This season was a dud. The only season that was worse than this year was season 9 with the couples.
I'm more excited about Survivor starting on Wednesday evening than the BB finale. I saw the Survivor preview show the other night and the cast looks very diverse. It might be difficult to choose a favorite right away because so many cast members look interesting. I'm just hoping Jimmy Johnson isn't voted out too soon because of his celebrity status.
Now they promise something new every week! What kind'a plan is that?
It's a PLAM!
The major problem is these new guru pumpers can't get together and co-ordinate their lies. With so many gurus and plaintiffs contradicting each other, who can an innocent kool-aid drinker believe/trust these days?
My vote goes to jimmy. Whatever he says, I'll take the exact opposite.
Then I'll put you down for a #1 vote.
Hodges Poll for this upcoming week.
File Date September 17th
1 Hodges files the amended complaint with no new sufficient evidence
2 Hodges files the amended complaint and adds documented evidence/names those involved
3 Hodges does not file amended complaint and drops the Bivens lawsuit
4 Amended complaint not necessary because trust fund money has been released
My vote is #1
I have now been in contact with someone who will break this story, it will go mainstream, and that reporter is contacting Al to get the story out.
Probably that Brad Matthews guy. He knows a good conspiracy never dies and will milk it as long as he can.
(11:44 AM) SiriusNews: hello room. look for new movie over 20 minutes long to come out within next hour. In GOLD we Trust
(11:44 AM) SiriusNews: on my way to an interview to film for the next few CMKM movies that will be coming out in the next few weeks
I got the idea that he had come to grips with being a victim of UC. How and when did he get roped into the Al Hodges idiocy?
hmm CW always seem like a faithful kool-aid drinker to me.
go2guy
I believe in full disclosure, so...
« Thread Started Today at 1:54pm »
I want you to know that I have not had coffee with Al Hodges or been treated to a massage or given gifts in order to sway the way I co-Moderate this board.
I know there are some rumors floating around out there that Al Hodges and his compadre, Dennis Smith have canoodled with and have shared java with Manny Flinn and perhaps others in order to manipulate and keep their board members in-line and drinking the Hodges Kooaide.
I know that Chuckwheat has deleted my thread on CMKX United which calls into question this practice and his intimate relationship with Mr. Hodges and Plaintiffs..Rather than confront the issue and make a statement, he has chosen to deny my Constitutional Right of Free Speech and has removed my topic from existence..Sad, sad day for the Constitution, which I have served to protect.
But you can rest assured that here..on this board, we don't schmooze with Plaintiffs and we don't canoodle with compadre's. We cannot be bought with Caramel Mocha Lates and Bear Claws...(If it were Slim Jim's and a sixpack of Yuengling Lager, maybe) and we aren't going to hurd you like sheep into the Hodges camp!
The lengths that people go to in order to control the mindshare of the masses is disturbing and it will eventually come back to bite Mr. Flinn and Mr. Wheat. But until that time we will have to combat stupidity with reason, insanity with straight jackets and keep moving forward toward the truth.
(4:32 PM) ChuckWheat: http://tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=14318
(4:35 PM) ChuckWheat: new comment from Pongo to Gus: It has come to our attention that the blackout in the media started with the Russian TV segment. You may have almost singlehandedly enabled us to get paid... You put the pressure on that produced that result !!! Kudos my hard working, patriot friend. We all owe you debt of gratitude.
Weird posts by Gussie...
Yeah, no kidding! gussie has been beyond looney tunes lately. He has to hands down be the most bizarre Xer character right now.
gussie has put his neck in the loose and seems to be feeling the pressure of the possibility that he could be wrong about Hodges, and the sting, etc. He seems so conflicted about his actions and wants assurance from the Xers.
His paranoia is apparent in these bizarre posts. He's in too deep now and the stress is showing, imo.
ranging from past & present insiders-plaintiffs-paltalkers & message board posters to be revealed in unsealed indictments forthcoming
Fingers cross here that the DOJ nabs the ECNI folks next.
probably someone at a VERY low level read it and sent it on its way to the trash
You would be surprise what security picks up sometimes.
Here's a funny thread. I feel like Pedro now!!!
Re: Zeninvestor (copied form another board)
« Reply #5 Today at 5:59am »
has anyone confirmed this is the original zeninvestor32?
If a name is not taken or registered with a forum.... anyone can take or assume that name.
If this post came from Janice Shell's IHUB, anything is possible from the likes of her and her ilk! JMHO
http://cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=6687
ilk? Hey, I'm an ilk!
ROFL
I have no doubt that Krazy Al is writing letters again
I doubt Krazy Al ever stopped with the letter writing campaign. He does appear to get more desperate when he has a filing date on the horizon.
Wonder what BofA tossed the email off as some goof or if they took it more seriously and will take some sort of action. Probably depends on how threatening Krazy Al came off, imo.