Wednesday, September 15, 2010 6:34:13 PM
BS time! very_tired15: No ER, but he expects it by tomorrow... since they waited to the last minute to pay us, there is a potential change in strategy. AH may refile, even if we get ER, just to keep the pressure on them so that the stragglers are insured to get payment. So, even if we get the announcement, he will likely refile and then dismiss it after everyone is paid.
very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow
very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
very_tired15: I need to move on with my life - one way or the other.
cmkxer: ty allan
Darren1104: beat goes on
very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
spiderman1959: I for one will be long gone
Nikander: smoke and mirrors very_tired, are you the smoke or the mirror?
ny joe 343: The way it sounds to me... ER announced, Payment Begun, ReFile, Payment Finished, Suit withdrawn.
very_tired15: I need to move on with my life - one way or the other.
jfarn: I guess I need to ask what Al's definition of Economic Receipt means?
mrsbillyray: uncalled for
jaylar1962_1: IF he refiles,,,won't the info in that be very damning to the gov and our econ ?
greasetx: sounds right nyjoe
spiderman1959: Right on Joe
jakodiamondz: Worrying about the 'un-shareholders'?
very_tired15: Nikander, you are way out of line.
Halasy_Policy: Allan do you have sound?
mrsbillyray: yep
ny joe 343: I think that's how it'll go.
very_tired15: no sound
Halasy_Policy: ok, Jac just asked you something
very_tired15: I have sound now
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: but how could he amend the lawsuit alleging they are withholding our payment..if its already paid
Halasy_Policy: jac, please repeat question to Allan...he didn't hear you
ChuckWheat: can we get everyone off of Allan?
carverchick_2: good question lucy
cityslicker19:
jfarn: If he received Economic Receipt...what does that mean?
caseco_1_1: lucy, have to file with new language under same case number. i would guess
JoeBud: don;t see the point of refiling if we're paid
spiderman1959: The Government will have another 30 days to respond to refile too.
honie6: right jac
very_tired15: I just got sound at the end.
jfarn: What is an ER without Meat?
gscraig: So the UN shareholders will get an UN announcement about their UN refile? UN believable. In fact I don't believe it.
moneyinthebank_1: dont shoot the messenger!
JoeBud: sounds like hocus pocus
bigkahnman: WAS ON PHONE WHAT DID I MISS
jfarn: What is an ER with meat
Earl is My Name: The case is moot if we get paid.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: caseco.. how can you alledge you arent paid in a lawsuit..if the money has been transferred
moneyinthebank_1: sorry, allan is only telling us what he knows
spiderman1959: Al I am sure is prepared if ER has not been received. I personally beleive ER was acheived some time ago.
Darren1104: no meat in hearsay
moneyinthebank_1: ok
spiderman1959: Ok here we go.......get confrontational now.
very_tired15: Believe me, I was told repeatedly that we would not need to refile. If he decides to refile - even if ER comes - then there is a strategy to maintain pressure. It is a new strategy to me as of last night.
caseco_1_1: beats me. im confused now. lol
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: boy am i corn fused
Crashigan: What would he need strategy for if he has ER?
JoeBud: How soon after ER do we get proof ofpayment?
pardonmi: electronics
carverchick_2: totally lost lol
mrsbillyray: once er is received can they stop payment?
cityslicker19: duck...
cityslicker19: duck..
acerta_1: the game is not over until the money is in our hands.
cityslicker19: goose!
Earl is My Name: Pressure for WHAT? Is ER what we were waiting on or what?
alan300zx: GA Everyone
Trueroll: breaking up jac
spiderman1959: Release of the funds to us is all that is awaiting now, IMO
Trueroll: breaking up jac
JoeBud: i truly am confused
burke1: maybe some of the money was released but not all
Halasy_Policy: True, he's fine here.. it's your end
marantz03: sequence of events going forward
mooney1tx: hear jac fine
ny joe 343: Allan, in your opinion, does ER mean that we are PAID, or does it mean that there will be an announcement that we have care, custody, and control, and that we are ABOUT to be paid?
Trueroll: ok
Earl is My Name: If ER allows for us to get paid... then why arent we paid? And who's interest is he putting in front of his clients?
bigkahnman: SHORT RECAP PLEASE WAS ON PHONE AND MISSED ALOT
spiderman1959: Thanks for bringing the info Allan.
carverchick_2: read the scroll bigk
Earl is My Name: no one understands enough for a recap bigk
very_tired15: He fully expects ER by tomorrow. However, since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid, even if they are late to the game. He would be doing it to insure there is no interference.
carverchick_2: yeah that's all we got lol
bigkahnman: OK THANKS
nobull1: antacid & valium cocktail sounds in order
carverchick_2: hmmmmm
cityslicker19: always
Pr125: He... does that mean Al Hodges?
carverchick_2: yes thank you
Darren1104: Hope they don't say Bush did it
Chopperguy: why should we have to wait for EVERYONE to register with the TA.........thats rediculous
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan...we understand this is a fluid situation
acerta_1: The people that are not registered (yet) seem to be a new ingredient
ground_fog: if he is going to refile anyway,why are they going to give er tomorrow? why would the govt agree to release money tomorrow if they are going to refile anyway ..makes no sense
mrsbillyray: once er is received can they stop payment?
brettwiththevikes: folks have had a long time to register
Earl is My Name: the TA knows who the shareholders are
JoeBud: If we have ER and are paid then the "stragglers" would already be included in the payout
very_tired15: I If we get paid, then refiling is irrelevant. If we do not get paid, then I agree.
cecker48_: well I am sorry to hear he will refile on behalf of the sh that have not followed this thing like the rest of us. So now we all pay the price for people not paying attention to their own stock? Bad news.
cutglass_1: man people had enough time for T/A already, i hope a few stragglers dont hold us up
very_tired15: brb
jaylar1962_1: SOOOO will we be paid now and others as they get info later iyo?
ny joe 343: Those people will not hold us up! If payment begins, it will continue until everyone is paid.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: ok allan..so basically.. we get paid..but the suit is still out there cause their are people who are registered?
JoeBud: This is or should be based on the master shareholder list
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: sorry..who arent registered
pardonmi: there are alot of people who dont know anything about the ta
ny joe 343: are NOT registered
very_tired15: sorry.. backj
Chopperguy: exactly Lucy
cityslicker19: if we ask a different plaintiff we might get a different answer ....
Chopperguy: not our problem that people dont keep up wiht their investments
cecker48_: That is their own fault IMO
cityslicker19: jk
jimbos_4: that makes no since ,,, last I heard there were only 8k signed up on TA site ,,,, there are 30 to 50k share holders
cecker48_: agree chopper
cityslicker19:
audreyhepburn_1: well if someone would make a good announcement there would be a rush on the TA!
carverchick_2: so he will allow them a certain amout of time for those people to be contacted and then he withdraws the suit?
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well..thats not the point.. point is.. do we have to wait til they get notified before anything is paid out is the question
Crashigan: What would the difference be for people who registered and who didn't? Won't the money go into a trust?
gmls66: Even though we registered already...TRansfer Agents I have spoken with at Transferonline keeps telling me that we do not need to register...>>> Aaron...especially seemed annoyed that we were bothering at all...
jymskee:
cecker48_: 100% agree audrey
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: so there must be a time frame on getting paid. sounds like that 30 day deal they were takling about
acerta_1: aren't investors not expected to keep track of their investments?
greasetx: dont think so lucy
carverchick_2: yes lucy.... there you go
JoeBud: But payment would go to all registered sharheolders on the master shareholder list
Chopperguy: now we have to wait for 30k people to register..............that could take months
spiderman1959: At this time there is no need to register with the T/A......If you have your certs that's all that counts at this time.
very_tired15: We do not have to wait until they are notified.. he never said a word about that
Crashigan: no sound
JoeBud: doesn't atter if they're registered with the TA
cecker48_: that is correct gmls66
Earl is My Name: When I registered at the TA it took just a few moments... and was practically automatic. They had all my share information already... didnt have to enter a thing except my cert #
geezer_49: no sound jac
spiderman1959: That's not me saying that......it's the T/A.
Halasy_Policy: air jac
carverchick_2: jac no sound....
billme_3: they have the master shareholder list that don't need the TA--IMO
lasko7: That sounds better Allan
pardonmi: it sounds like the people who are not on the boards whpo are shareholders need to be notifide
Trueroll: same with me Earl.
unclebuddyshere: The re-filing would be to cover those who have not recieved their cert or regrestered with the new TA. It would give them to get that done before the crooks were able to cheet them out of their money. aimho
acerta_1: open mouth for sound Jac
audreyhepburn_1: so do we have er and will there be an announcement of some kind in the next 36 hours?
TN1955: no sound
rcar202: This makes no sense...shareholders who are not registered should have nothing to do with the SEC releasing the money...sounds fishy to me
ChuckWheat: OPEN MIC----- JAC
JoeBud: Earl that'sbecause they have a database of shareholders on the master list
marantz03: no audio
iseeyou-9: no sound jac
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: i just dont understand.. its not like the govt is just agreeing to pay x amount to each..its the trust divided between shs..
jimbos_4: right spider ,,,, thats what the TA said
very_tired15: Just wait until tomorrow and see how it unfolds.. if everything AH told me is truthful, then we will al be pleased
spiderman1959: I think we just need to prepare for funds to be released and documents to sign to take receipt of same.
cecker48_: another stall tactic imo
BATES BATES: no sound jac
gram-pa D: nothing jac
caseco_1_1: no sound from jac
ATW100: still no sound jac
mrsbillyray:
carverchick_2: JAC!!!!! NO SOUND!!!!!!!!!
mooney1tx: no sound jac
cecker48_: no sound jac
Crashigan: No sound
very_tired15: Remember one thing I have always postulated? It is all about the interest. They will keep it until the last possible day and believe that day is the 17th.
antony_54: no sound
allrich: looks like the Media blitz is on Friday
spiderman1959: And I also say don't shoot the messenger.
gram-pa D: y
BATES BATES: yes
pardonmi: now you do
mrsbillyray: yes
Halasy_Policy: yes
caseco_1_1: y
Crashigan: y
mooney1tx: yes
jimbos_4: y
acerta_1: yup
carverchick_2: there you are!
Trueroll: yeppers
carverchick_2: yes
Paco49: SI
jymskee:
marantz03: good
antony_54: y
honie6: Jac, this is so confusing, I talked to the new TA, and they had all my info, and i was told, by the new TA I did not need to register ? All our info was just passed on to the new TA.
karrotsign: Very tired the Ta will be involved in the payment process?
wwdyer: y
panda_ent: y
spiderman1959: Volume is not a problem
ChuckWheat: Allan...how much confidence does AH have of ER....is he certain, near certain, or just believing it will happen?
cityslicker19: on day 44
allrich: the TA knows all bonifide shareholders already IMO
cityslicker19: LOL
tukcid: when i checked with the ta i was already registered. So if you did as the company requested and faxed in your certs then you should be good. if you did not well momma says stupid is as stupid does
ground_fog: if the refile is scaring them to pay tomorrow, it makes no sense to refile anyway..the govt would surely make sure if they release money..no refile
very_tired15: Cuch.. he spoke to me with great certainty
crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right?
very_tired15: Chuck
spiderman1959: I orginally thought the T/A would advise us but not sure if that will be the case now.
acerta_1: I hope money first then refile ... I'll be bummed to wait for the refiling to work out
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan
marantz03: Alan do we know if those that are registered are the un shareholders or a combination of Bonifieds and un shareholders???
ground_fog: alan, with all due respect , he was certain in january according to the plaintiffs
marantz03: are not registered
spiderman1959: There will be more than that happen I expect.
ny joe 343: crunchyfrogs, that is what I understand out of this as well.
unclebuddyshere: Agree Chrunchy
nfcross: Jacbert I agree
Trueroll: i agree with lucy......makes senze
Wheres-da-BEEF: Just Tell US.............give everyone 30 days to register
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: is it the ones not registered or the ones who are left in street shares?
cecker48_: Then why would the TA tell everyone they don't need to register?
vuurvliegjes: ga jacbert
nobull1: and it sound wierd
ny joe 343: (1:42 PM) crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right? > Yes, IMO
Wheres-da-BEEF: nope not going to be pretty if he refiles........if he has the ER and control of money then there is no reason to Refile
spiderman1959: Registering with the T/A is not part of the equation
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: i agree spidey
Earl is My Name: drip
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: it might mean street shares
oscart01: I agree also, spidy
carverchick_2: maybe lucy
Wheres-da-BEEF: no need to Refile IMO.......makes no sense Alan
spiderman1959: Hi Lucy.....that's the way it is
ground_fog: what is going to motivate the govt to release money if al is going to refile anyway?
JoeBud: REGISTERING WITH THE TA DOES NOT MAKE YOU A SHAREHOLDER. THE TA HAS A MASTER SHAREHOLDER LIST --- WHETHER YOU SIGN UP WITH THEM OR NOT
Wheres-da-BEEF: ER = we have the money
nobull1: something smells bad
ny joe 343: Jac, we may very well get the info from Al, or the T/A, or Allan, for that matter. We simply do not know yet.
audreyhepburn_1: somebody of authority speak out to us please
mrsbillyray: I agree jac
Wheres-da-BEEF: they can say no distribution for 90 days
ground_fog: if im the govt im saying you refile no release
vickes_11: craziness!
rcar202: right spiderman
greasetx: electronics lucy?
Dumptruck9: Is there a link to AL posting???
twinnone: Agree, Jac
royalstarofthelion: Could be a game of chicken , dont refile we'll release , he says , ok release and I wont refile , imo
jimbos_4: we need to here from AH himself
cityslicker19: ER= touchdown!
karrotsign: I apologize Very Tired when did you speak to Hodges? I missed the info
cecker48_: agree jimbo
caseco_1_1: lucy do you mean electronics? the uncerted shareholders?
CMKX1234: irefiling is to insure money actually makes it into our hands ...is what treffy said
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: yes case
jakodiamondz: Not pretty is ok. My depends won't be pretty after we're paid either.
ghowiepharts: How much would they know to pay us if others arn't registered with the TA???
Earl is My Name: No one encouraged shareholders to register at the TA. No one made a big deal about it. In fact... they downplayed the importance of it.
very_tired15: We will not have to wait for the non-registered or non-bonifieds to get notice
spiderman1959: I think we may be reading more into the facts than that which exsists. JMO but maybe I am missing something
very_tired15: He said nothing about that... he just said to insure that there is no further interfertence
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
lasko7: Thanks Allan
ATW100: thanks allan
ghowiepharts: Allan, hope so
moneyinthebank_1: this could very well be settled at the 12 hour? last minute ER?
carverchick_2: i think lucy is right it may mean shares still held at the brokers
twinnone: Right, DCK
carverchick_2: imo
ny joe 343: This could also be a case where we get paid, and they commit the lawsuit to History, by refiling with different legal language...
ujellis: Small recap PLEASE
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: we were told by the company TO register.. actually.. twice. but the ta tells you no need
Crashigan: Allan, how can they interfere with money they paid, that will got into a trust?
spiderman1959: NO THAT IS NOT RIGHT
Pr125: not logical in my view
JoeBud: Payment goes to bonifide shareholders. Bonafide shareholders are on the master shareholder list
iseeyou-9: oh boy!
breatdane1: i told my CPA what he needed to do.he said"i'll wait till i get paid".
rcar202: if this is the case it sounds to me like more smoke so shareholders don't get in an uproar when he refiles
oscart01: agree pardonmi
Earl is My Name: They KNOW who all the shareholders are.
spiderman1959: Things regarding distribution have changed
cmkxer: tyler have been telling us one thing and al is telling us another...i trust al
ATW100: Allan....will Hodges give an announcement? Or will be notified tomorrow by the TA?
cecker48_: They have had years to do this.
nobull1: houston we have a problem
dck004: good point pard
Darren1104: I'm sure Al has eyes and ears listening here
cityslicker19: its 4th down...going or throwing?
Wheres-da-BEEF: ALAN SO WHY DID MR. HODGES SAY FOR THE LAST 1.5 MONTHS THAT HE WOULD NOT REFILE......................HE KNEW ALL ALONG THAT NOT EVERYONE WAS REGISTERED WITH THE T.A. --------THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW
vickes_11: stall, stall, stall.
geezer_49: I think its for people who havent registered their certs
ATW100: The company told us to register...period
Wheres-da-BEEF: makes no sense!!!
jaylar1962_1: That is why there is a TA . To handle shareholders...If we start getting paid word will get out.
ChuckWheat: I think we're missing the important news here...Attorney Hodges has told Allan he has great confidence in getting ER by tomorrow (Allan, please correct me if I've mischaracterized this)
royalstarofthelion: Yes Dck I think that's what's happening jmo
very_tired15: Perhaps, here is the fear.. and this is my opinion.. what if ER comes, he dismisses the case tand then before peopel can get paid, someone interferes? The lawsuit will insure that such actions can not happen.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: yes
Wheres-da-BEEF: HODGES HAS KNOWN FOR months and months that not eeryone is registered
ujellis: Very - Can you please do a small recap
spiderman1959: That is correct
Crashigan: That makes sense to me Allan
Wheres-da-BEEF: Alan are you saying we dont have an indpendent Trustee?
Earl is My Name: they know the shareholders and the shares that each shareholder has
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
moneyinthebank_1: allan, i think yo are correct, imo
ny joe 343: Beef, he may be refiling, after we are 75% paid. Let's not freak out. We've come this far, give it another day! Plenty of time to get our backs up, if need be.
ATW100: BEEF....i doubt this was that planned out....
Earl is My Name: without anyone registering
JoeBud: makes no sense to me. if they have ER then they would have control over the money
crunchyfrogs: IMO, if you had a cert issued in your name and you are not one of the bad guys, your shares are registered with the TA. Just because you haven't registered with the TA for an account, doesn't mean your shares are not registered imo.
jaylar1962_1: SO could he not files a new suit in that event?
Wheres-da-BEEF: independent trustee's ensure that nobody can wrongfully take our money
ground_fog: very tired, what is the motivation for the govt to release money tomorrow if al refiles tomorrow anyway?
nobull1: i feel sick is it just me
gram-pa D: I am with you CW
Earl is My Name: They know who has certs.
tigerherb: Ujellis, Allan's info will be reposted later
JoeBud: If they dont control the money they dont have ER
oscart01: Think about this: The PURPOSE of a sting is to catch the crooks.... not to get shareholders paid. Those in charge are focused, still, on their ultimate goal.... IMO
Wheres-da-BEEF: Plus the TA has told people that there is no need to register...........They have our addresses and names
Earl is My Name: and probably have a good grasp on those that dont
spiderman1959: We have to realize that Al H has to cover all the bases. If not he could leave us or some of us vonerable.
ujellis: can't wait till later....
very_tired15: PLease do not let this information change your perspective about tomorrow.. just let it see...
ground_fog: the govt is not going to release money unless they have an ironclad agreement no refile imo,common sense
spiderman1959: I was too Don
very_tired15: just let it play out for tomorrow...
dck004: thx allan
Wheres-da-BEEF: Alan........Yes or No.........did Hodges tell you he would probably Refile or is that just your theory?
jacbert: thanks Allan
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan
audreyhepburn_1: so is that when we will hear from them on Thursday?
JoeBud: BECAUSE OF THE MASTER SHAREHOLDER LIST
gram-pa D: Right Allan!
JoeBud: YIKES
spiderman1959: Friday is Constitution Day, Sept 17th
LBM0RRIS: is the master shareholder list the the list the TA would have?
pardonmi: never let your upper hand down imo
karrotsign: Very tired you expect news tomorrow from Al?
very_tired15: Even if ER happens, not everyone will collect by tomorrow... to keep pressure that there will not be interference, that is the issue and the reason for refiling..
ny joe 343: he may be refiling, after we are 75% paid. Let's not freak out. We've come this far, give it another day! Plenty of time to get our backs up, if need be.
CMKX1234: treffy i hope you are right....i am feeling chest pains....
very_tired15: I fully expect news byt AH tomorrow
crunchyfrogs: IMO, shareholders who are not registered with the TA are those who hold electronic shares on which certs were never issued.
breatdane1: what does er mean?
tom4212: If there is a gag order on the news media I would think there is a gag order on Hodges and the team
Wheres-da-BEEF: still makes no sense alan
karrotsign: Ty Very tired
mrsbillyray: so the media will be able to cover it tomorrow along with the refile
iseeyou-9: here we go a new spin on it
Wheres-da-BEEF: if we get ER there is no need to refile plain and simple
marantz03: i've worn the edge out, lolo
carverchick_2: as usual lol
BTHotwheels: Hello... Im just getting back in... any thing new to report?
lasko7: Understood Allan thanks
yungmlnr36: Whoever is releasing money...Why wait until the very LAST day for ER...
pooch1: I'm on the edge of my chair Jac
JoeBud: hurting shareholders all over again imo thru lack of official communication
jymskee: JAC is a cool cucumber. It is what it is
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
ground_fog: very tired, once again, why would the govt agree to releasing money if al refiles anyway..if im the govt i'm saying ..you refile? no soup for you
jaylar1962_1: And at that point if there are SH who are screwed out of their $ they could sue the pants off the wrong doers
Wheres-da-BEEF: everything is Crystal Cloudy as usual like royal likes to say
very_tired15: Beef,. he said he would do it no matter what... because they waited so long, he did not want to make us vulnerable and only dfep-endent on them keeping their word that there would be no interference..
Crashigan: Beef, until you get money in hand then it is over
carverchick_2: crunchy i agree with your statement above
unclebuddyshere: Thanks Allen. I have been expecting this.
ATW100: crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right?
breatdane1: jacbert.. what does er mean?thanks
nobull1: im sitting on the edge of my chair on the edge of a cliff
mrsbillyray: yep
very_tired15: I believe that tyo be true...
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
yungmlnr36: Allan... dd you speak with Al today?
cityslicker19: next to my GOT CMKX? bumper sticker i put a
Trueroll: economic receipt
ground_fog: Hodges should never have been so emphatic about no refile after being lied to for nine months..bad judgement
mrsbillyray: standoff
breatdane1: thanks true
Wheres-da-BEEF: So Alan if thats true then the refile will be filled with FLUFF? bc if Al Hodges puts damning information into the Refile............why on earth would the government tolerate that?
Skylope: I think it is a wise move for Al
ny joe 343: Let me say something here... Al has brought us this far, and if he announces ER tomorrow, and we start getting paid, I firmly believe he will do whatever he thinks he HAS to do, to protect us and get us ALL paid. If that means a Refile, after money starts transferring, no problem, IMO. It is insurance!
very_tired15: yes
JoeBud: headbang
jimbos_4: right Royal
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
spiderman1959: Waht would you do?
very_tired15: yes
pardonmi: he has to keep the hammer
carverchick_2:
jacbert: Sounds like Alladin and the Lamp
Wheres-da-BEEF: Royal with damning/incriminating information in the Refile?
karrotsign: IMO the Government will wait till the eleventh hour.
unclebuddyshere: Agree Royal
lasko7: Agreed joe
ATW100: sounds good NYJO...just pay us first...lol
carverchick_2: AH has to keep the upper hand imo
Skylope: he does not have a choice
vickes_11: i'm going to start telling the IRS and creditors that their payment is IMMENINT!
nobull1: i hope so royal
burke1: remember we have a lying, steeling, cheating GOV.
Halasy_Policy: good point, royal, and it would be very nice if Al told us this directly
spiderman1959: This shows that he is a great lawyer
carverchick_2: keep the offense not play defense
gscraig: SQUACK!
jimbos_4: only way it could happen to protect us ,,,, royal
Trueroll: i agree with you royal...makes perfect sense
caseco_1_1: got his spurs on.
Earl is My Name: shareholders can be grouped 3 ways... 1] no certs; 2] certs; 3] certs that are registered at the TA. #2 and #3 can overlap because not all cert holders registered. But the TA knows everyone and share count in groups 2 and 3. I dont know what they know about group #1.
ny joe 343: Right
JoeBud: Why wait until the deadline?
burke1: yes royal
ontheroad_1: I have to agree that it would make sense to refile just because the powers that be have pushed the payment to the last day
Darren1104: vickes, good luck lol
Wheres-da-BEEF: With damning/incriminating information in the Refile?
spiderman1959: I can assure you that he is well prepared
moneyinthebank_1: i agree
spiderman1959: no way
Trueroll: 100%
caseco_1_1:
very_tired15: If we would have had ER a month ago, he would not be talking refile... maybe even a few days ago... but they can tell him they have ER on a promise, and then they screw us.. that is the poiint
karrotsign: I agree Royal he must act.
marantz03: right on Royal
nobull1: yes royal leverage
DodgeRam: yes i agree royal
JoeBud: For pressure it would have made more sense to file a month ago
cityslicker19: for 44 days NO file NO file No file
mrsbillyray: your right royal
unclebuddyshere: He has the what Royal? lol
PMAKUA63:
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: royal
oscart01: IF he refiles ..... then he is free to release the bomb.
carverchick_2: that's true to
carverchick_2: too
ny joe 343: Regarding what Lucy said, he has the option of changing the legal language, so as not to get in trouble by refiling, after payment has started.
spiderman1959: The STING IS OVER.....has to come from the government
pardonmi: lol
xmarxdaspot_1donegone: Will Al Have to show his hand when he refiles
nobull1: now he should tell us
jimbos_4: if we get ER ,,, we know we are getting paid ,,,, by AH filing it protects us
cmkx_thehunter: That's most logic I've heard today Royal
karrotsign: Y
carverchick_2: stay the course
very_tired15: AH can dismiss a=fter he is 100% sure we all have access
tigerherb: Who ever blinks first loses
lasko7: That's what Allan is saying IMO
Jay247Atl_1: time is up now!
moneyinthebank_1: huge
Jay247Atl_1: Just Do It!
Trueroll: correct ~!!!!
ny joe 343: very_tired15: AH can dismiss a=fter he is 100% sure we all have access > That's all that needs to be said.
DrStrangeGlove: this is exciting - I no longer have to deliver babies if we get ER!
rcar202: royal i know what you are saying.but refile to me means just more and more time we wait imo
spiderman1959: They don't want the evidence in the public view.....the markets are too fragile to allow it.
very_tired15: REmember, it is all about interest.... they were going to keep the money until the last possible date..
extex95_1: Al is a very smart man. Has all bases covered. Plan A, Plan B and so on. Contingincy planning.
PMAKUA63: kick their butt al
jburke5: If he files, then the damaging information cannot be taken back. Someone is pretty stupid to force his hand.
lasko7: Thanks Allan...bbl have a great afternoon...and thanx for sharing Allan
JoeBud: IF HE NEEDED A HAMMER WHY DIDN'T HE REFILE A MONTH AGO? TO KEEP ON PRESSURE?
karrotsign: THe gov has fought us every step of the way imo
jimbos_4: me too
gscraig: Is that a hammer in your pocket or are you glad to see me? LOL
cecker48_: It is way to hard to keep faith when you promise, delay, promise, delay.
carverchick_2: gs LOLOL
spiderman1959: They had better not underestimate Mr. Hodges. That would be bad for them/
Halasy_Policy: this is all well and fine... if this is the case... but would only be reassuring if Al himself states it directly to us this way from his mouth to our ears
jacbert: low scotty
PMAKUA63: royal
extex95_1: It's just like a Commander in the battle field.
karrotsign: Yes Thank you
pardonmi: never throw your hand in
nobull1: if he refiles what is the last possible date we get payed
ny joe 343: My vote is to support Al, at least for the time being. He has shown his stuff, and I believe that he will take us to the Finish Line. Relax people.
rcar202: thats right joe why wait to refile???
vickes_11: I say throw the sledge hammer down now. They have screwed US long to far!
gscraig: scotty, talk up!
tigerherb: Yes Thank You Allan
Jay247Atl_1: Just refile today
karrotsign: Amen Scott
very_tired15: I am personally sorry for first delivering info that there is no need to refile.. and changing it.. I do not think I was used, but I believe the change is a genuine and well-thought out one
marantz03: would be very nice Halsay!!
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
tigerherb:
nobull1: royal
yungmlnr36: thanks for the info, Allan
carverchick_2: we appreciate everything you can bring us allan
cmkxer: hey allan, if the gov is going to keep the interest, then they shouldn't tax us for the rest of our life.
geezer_49: royal
cecker48_:
happytime3: Will AH communicate to us himself?
nobull1: ouch peach seeds
unclebuddyshere: Royal your on a roll today. lol
extex95_1: Allen everyone has to be flexable when it comes to cmkx.
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
cityslicker19:
cityslicker19: 91/2
ChuckWheat: No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy
extex95_1: yes u have. LOL
geezer_49: uh oh
marantz03: exactly
ny joe 343: Scenario #1: ER is announced, Moneys begin to transfer (thursday), Friday, Al refiles, Monday through Friday next week, all payments received, Lawsuit dropped.
moneyinthebank_1: allen, could we still be getting the packets delivered today or tomorrow?
carverchick_2: poker face.........
pardonmi: maheu at his best
marantz03: knowing it would get out
Trueroll: you are spot on royal
spiderman1959: And he did NOT IMO
nobull1: what is the new date if refile and the gov is milking us for max intrest
very_tired15: Craig, he is going to refile to insure that the ER is real and that we all can be paid
pardonmi: confusion
Pr125: NY Joe that makes sense.
billme_3: question--- _______who will get the $$$ for all the shares that people have passed on or just forgot about things-where will that $$ go?
iseeyou-9: the re-file is not a shock to me...
spiderman1959: He didn't
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....?
ujellis: Or will he hold back
flugelbinder: refile or no refile,as long as we get payed !
very_tired15: since they waited to the last kminute, they could falsely represent that ER is real, but then interfere.. then we would have let the lasuit go and had one of our big hammers taken away
jimbos_4: nyjoe good plan but they would have 30 day to get all the money out to share holders
moneyinthebank_1: he wont show his "hand" but he will have to give something up in the refile?
spiderman1959: he has performed.....in true Maheu form IMO
cecker48_: We all carry our own crosses to bear, including this stock. immo
ny joe 343: Scenario # 1 is the only one I am entertaining, at least until Friday. No need to be upset here. Personally, I believe we are GOLDEN, already!
pardonmi: spider thats maheu
spiderman1959: Yes sir Pardonmi
very_tired15: no sound
rcar202: nyjoe i bet you are wrong
nobull1: is the media gag really over?
ground_fog: alan, can we expect another copy andpaste update tomorrow for hodges?
Lynn64: yes he does alan
ny joe 343: jimbos, AH would not let it go on that long, no way.
moneyinthebank_1: I BELIEVE FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, WE ARE DONE>>>
cecker48_: I sure would like to see that "hammer"! :0
crunchyfrogs: It is understandable that Al will refile if the ER comes at the deadline date for refiling. ER does not mean we have money in our hands. It is wise on Al's part to refile to ensure ER is followed by distribution.
very_tired15: you tell me ground
spiderman1959: He has kept the goal in front of him.
billme_3: file no matter what keep the threat of exposure-a reality--just do it AH
1970moneymaker1970: what do you think rcar?
BATES BATES: I really hope he doesnt just refile and leave us in the dark
billme_3: just file baby
ny joe 343: rcar, my bets were placed 7 years ago. I am not interested in any more bets.
spiderman1959: The man has video tape and audio to prove his case.
very_tired15: is there sound?
rcar202: refile means 30 more days
billme_3: just like a squeeze
Lynn64: yes alan
carverchick_2: yes allan
extex95_1: yes vt
happytime3: yes
BATES BATES: A refile with no info to shareholders will be a disaster
geezer_49: yes
very_tired15: I have to reboot
ground_fog: alan,you didnt answer my question, but if im the govt im not releasing funds if al is refiling anyway
Darren1104: what if
unclebuddyshere: If Al re-files the gag order will be extended by the judge. jmo
spiderman1959: They will be screwed. Well said
moneyinthebank_1: correct
PMAKUA63: amen
geezer_49: When Attorney Hodges does tell me it is done, I will still remain calm, slowly get out my chair, walk over to the dining room table, make sure I am calm, then I will leap up on the table, punch my fist in the air, holler in an undignified way...hey I am only human. Please stay grounded......Thank you, BHollenegg
spiderman1959: Doesn't matter
caseco_1_1: lol pardon
ny joe 343: rcar, that is a possibility, it is certainly not, a GIVEN.
jfarn: Then why the hell did tell multiple that we will NEVER refile
tigerherb: yes
Earl is My Name: Now that would be an exciting attachment to the refile spiderman: spiderman1959: The man has video tape and audio to prove his case.
geezer_49: y
pardonmi: yes
jimbos_4: y
Lynn64: y
diamondman_1: y
jacbert: good
PMAKUA63: y
jfarn: that is tipping your hand...
cecker48_: yy
mahastock1_1: You got to know when to hold them. Know when to fold them. Know when to walk away and, know when to run.
caseco_1_1: good cruncy
spiderman1959: yes perfect
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....? Or will he hold back
burke1: IMO since we know this now, he has already refiled
Lynn64: think you need a scroll test
flugelbinder: Now we will be happy with the refile,lol
BATES BATES: prob burke
diamondman_1: I heard the frogs a crunching
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....? ° Or will he hold back
flugelbinder: refile no refile
cityslicker19: the ol switcharoo
BATES BATES: what if he refiles and we havent received any ER ?
msMarkus415: My question is if he refiles will that be open to the public or can the courts keep it quiet. If it becomes public record can the court have the information sealed?
pardonmi: correct
mahastock1_1: Who trusts the government, raise your hand.
geezer_49: exactly
Crashigan: Its not over until we get money in our hand
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS:
ChuckWheat: if we get ER...it's over for those who have been paying attention and registered IMO. Filing in this scenario only helps those who have not been paying attention
Lynn64: what if he's waited the full amount of time and we see nothing but more delay?
jimbos_4: right
tigerherb:
royalstarofthelion: Excatly
pardonmi: recourse is where it lies
BATES BATES: yes lynn
ground_fog: he should ahve said that all along thoughm instead of leading us on...surely he knew this plan yesterday and was prepared for this
jymskee: right on Crunchy
BATES BATES: my thoughts too
ny joe 343: The old Bouncing Ball Syndrome... Let's see what really happens tomorrow and Friday. Not blowing a cork, because of "What-If's".
cityslicker19: why havent we been paid?
brettwiththevikes: one press of a button pays everyone at once..could be done in minutes...seems more to this than we are seeing
rcar202: than why wait 45 days to refile,makes no sense
ground_fog: he had to have been prepared for this scenario..so why friggin insist no refile..thats my problem..oh well
nobull1: if you turn over the evidence the judge see's it but he also has proof we got payed that would satisfy the demand for the release of the trusts and it over????
very_tired15: I would agree... do you want to trust the powers that be to suddenly do what they say? Governments are notorious for breaking their words.. ask the American Indians, the Japanese Internment victims, Black Farmers, so man others...
pardonmi: i dont allen
Earl is My Name: If there is any merit to that press gag... and many press outlets are so eager to report on this story... then you better believe that there are newspaper articles and television content already written up ready to add Al Hodges' information and evidence...
carverchick_2: pfffffft i doubt it
audreyhepburn_1: this is a good strategy when dealing with miscreats
billme_3: Alen if you are a Plaintiff -you must request him to re-file
very_tired15: However, we NEED news of ER TOMORROW.. not Saturday, but TOMORROW
jymskee: refiling is just an insurance policy
billme_3: he works for you
mahastock1_1: very tired. that is why I would have filed it the next day.JMO
mahastock1_1: no extra time
ground_fog: very tired, Hodges should have expected this and not been so emphatic about no refile imo
jimbos_4: or today very-tired
BATES BATES: I am thinking about cleaning my house, but considering I might have a new house tomorrow, ill wait lol
very_tired15: or today...
pardonmi: and he gave them an extra 15 days
ny joe 343: As disappointed as I am with all of the delays to date, I am confident that we are on the precipice of massive success. I WILL NOT turn negative at this juncture.
cecker48_: Hope your right jymskee
pardonmi: so there is no excuse for the gov
karrotsign: Very tired how long does Hodges have to refile?
very_tired15: UNtil Friday the 17th
BATES BATES: friday
pardonmi: they are playing with the wrong man
unclebuddyshere: Ground-fog: It was just another card that had to be plaied. jmo
karrotsign: Ty Very Tired
Earl is My Name: If I (and you) cant start spending my (your) money... it would be negligent not to refile... and refile good. Embarass them. And throw in the kitchen sink.
spiderman1959: not a chance in H*** he will let his guard down
doggoneit_1: I wish he would refile and tell them to stick it where the sun dont shine. lol
jimbos_4: I thought it was 4:00pm tomorrow very-tired
erthtunes: gm guys
ujellis: Very when did you talk to Al...?
ny joe 343: I think I'll go clean out the garage.
royalstarofthelion: yes
pardonmi: he gave them an extra 15 days
msMarkus415: Can they seal the court documents if he drops the case?
very_tired15: I think they knew how long it would take for Basel to be done.. they used our money for recapitalization
spiderman1959: there is no need
ujellis: man sure do sound like he has proof
new day_20: Joe...Is that so you will have room to put your money?
erthtunes: exactly marantz- that was my point weeks ago- he has to re-file
jymskee: not unexpected that they will wait till the last second
happytime3: if the gag is over they are really taking a chance in having the evidence publicized
very_tired15: I spoke to AH yesterday
cecker48_: If he refiles anyway no matter what, then that gives them a reason to delay even longer.
cecker48_: imo
new day_20: Or getting ready to sell it...
ChuckWheat: agreed...by refiling he preserves his ability to continue action until this thing is done
Crashigan: 7 percent????
ujellis: thanks
Crashigan: I didn't know that
ny joe 343: LOL NewDay, no... I wish I HAD a garage, LOL
erthtunes: untill we all have been paid- you gotta hold the big hammer
unclebuddyshere: Remember that the SEC will still have 30 days after Al re-files.
ChuckWheat: personally, I see no bad news in this update
iseeyou-9: just a tea spoon of sugar helps the medicine go down, in the most delightful way IMO
BATES BATES: y
pardonmi: yes
geezer_49: y
gram-pa D: y
cecker48_: LOL iseeyou
tigerherb: yes
rcar202: that is soooo right uncle
iseeyou-9:
erthtunes: we all take it too the wire- do we pay our bills early? most of us don't
spiderman1959: They best not push Al to make evidence public
jaylar1962_1: Two points....if they indeed get to keep some or all interest then they will wait till the last minute, other is if he does get ER and still files will they push this out the 30 day response time the Sec has to answer.
ny joe 343: There's no WAY that Al would do this, if it wasn't in O U R best interests. Why Bother?
ujellis: Very - When Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile Or will he hold back...?
very_tired15: I would imagine that he would wait until thurs or fri...
ratnaraj: Even if/when Al refiles it buys the gov't 30 days to respond.
nobull1: better mix a little prozac in with that teaspoon of sugar
wodan11: this must be it me and flugel at the same time on vacation pffff
very_tired15: ujells.. deoends on if ER comes first
zuki2004: is there an update from Al today???
very_tired15: depends
happytime3: maybe AH is putting them on notice that he is planning to refile so they produce the ER
ujellis: k thanks
ujellis: man I need a Drink
spiderman1959: How many settlements are made on the courthouse steps?
nobull1:
Earl is My Name: If this law suit died... aren't there 39,993 other shareholders that could bring the same sort of law suit? And really pour on the damaging evidence?
spiderman1959: Right on
Lynn64: there's always a way to spin every delay to the positive...
moneyinthebank_1: exactly, on the court house steps
happytime3: Well we really did not think this was gonna be easy given the history behind CMKX
fiddlehead_39a: Wodan,,hope you have a nice vacation
johncraig_1_1: I have only one thing to say....PAY US AND PAY US NOW!
very_tired15: just hang in there folks.. nothing has changed in substance.. he still is confident that ER is coming this week... he is just insuring they follow through with it
ny joe 343: Well, if the lid comes off the press gag tomorrow, and Al refiles, and they jerk us around, this will become a VERY public story in no time at all. I don't see that happening.
jymskee: If he refiles then the press balckout is lifted then we see the hammer on the news stations . Thats what they have to prevent
wodan11: ty
jimbos_4: the refile needs to be done by tomorrow at 4:00PM ,,,, very-tired count the days again ,,, don't want AH to miss that date
maximiliaan11: Wodan where you going?
unclebuddyshere: I want to see someone deliver 3.87tril. to the courthouse steps. lol
msMarkus415: Could he refile in the judges chambers?
flugelbinder: lol wodan,i am leaving tomorrow too
CMKX1234: if we got paid a long time ago...many would have lost most of it...and that's a fact imo
Crashigan: Allan does he seem more confident than past times?
wodan11: nor de zee in holland me de paarden
flugelbinder: we both picked the right date to go on vacation
fiddlehead_39a: Hey Flugel,,you also
flugelbinder: yes
maximiliaan11: pietzakken
Earl is My Name: If money isnt flowing into our mattresses by 4PM tomorrow its negligent not to refile. JMO
very_tired15: But ER is still expected tomorrow
very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
very_tired15: I need to move on with my life - one way or the other.
cmkxer: ty allan
Darren1104: beat goes on
very_tired15: Believe me, if we do not get ER, this leopard will be radically changing his spots.
spiderman1959: I for one will be long gone
Nikander: smoke and mirrors very_tired, are you the smoke or the mirror?
ny joe 343: The way it sounds to me... ER announced, Payment Begun, ReFile, Payment Finished, Suit withdrawn.
very_tired15: I need to move on with my life - one way or the other.
jfarn: I guess I need to ask what Al's definition of Economic Receipt means?
mrsbillyray: uncalled for
jaylar1962_1: IF he refiles,,,won't the info in that be very damning to the gov and our econ ?
greasetx: sounds right nyjoe
spiderman1959: Right on Joe
jakodiamondz: Worrying about the 'un-shareholders'?
very_tired15: Nikander, you are way out of line.
Halasy_Policy: Allan do you have sound?
mrsbillyray: yep
ny joe 343: I think that's how it'll go.
very_tired15: no sound
Halasy_Policy: ok, Jac just asked you something
very_tired15: I have sound now
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: but how could he amend the lawsuit alleging they are withholding our payment..if its already paid
Halasy_Policy: jac, please repeat question to Allan...he didn't hear you
ChuckWheat: can we get everyone off of Allan?
carverchick_2: good question lucy
cityslicker19:
jfarn: If he received Economic Receipt...what does that mean?
caseco_1_1: lucy, have to file with new language under same case number. i would guess
JoeBud: don;t see the point of refiling if we're paid
spiderman1959: The Government will have another 30 days to respond to refile too.
honie6: right jac
very_tired15: I just got sound at the end.
jfarn: What is an ER without Meat?
gscraig: So the UN shareholders will get an UN announcement about their UN refile? UN believable. In fact I don't believe it.
moneyinthebank_1: dont shoot the messenger!
JoeBud: sounds like hocus pocus
bigkahnman: WAS ON PHONE WHAT DID I MISS
jfarn: What is an ER with meat
Earl is My Name: The case is moot if we get paid.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: caseco.. how can you alledge you arent paid in a lawsuit..if the money has been transferred
moneyinthebank_1: sorry, allan is only telling us what he knows
spiderman1959: Al I am sure is prepared if ER has not been received. I personally beleive ER was acheived some time ago.
Darren1104: no meat in hearsay
moneyinthebank_1: ok
spiderman1959: Ok here we go.......get confrontational now.
very_tired15: Believe me, I was told repeatedly that we would not need to refile. If he decides to refile - even if ER comes - then there is a strategy to maintain pressure. It is a new strategy to me as of last night.
caseco_1_1: beats me. im confused now. lol
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: boy am i corn fused
Crashigan: What would he need strategy for if he has ER?
JoeBud: How soon after ER do we get proof ofpayment?
pardonmi: electronics
carverchick_2: totally lost lol
mrsbillyray: once er is received can they stop payment?
cityslicker19: duck...
cityslicker19: duck..
acerta_1: the game is not over until the money is in our hands.
cityslicker19: goose!
Earl is My Name: Pressure for WHAT? Is ER what we were waiting on or what?
alan300zx: GA Everyone
Trueroll: breaking up jac
spiderman1959: Release of the funds to us is all that is awaiting now, IMO
Trueroll: breaking up jac
JoeBud: i truly am confused
burke1: maybe some of the money was released but not all
Halasy_Policy: True, he's fine here.. it's your end
marantz03: sequence of events going forward
mooney1tx: hear jac fine
ny joe 343: Allan, in your opinion, does ER mean that we are PAID, or does it mean that there will be an announcement that we have care, custody, and control, and that we are ABOUT to be paid?
Trueroll: ok
Earl is My Name: If ER allows for us to get paid... then why arent we paid? And who's interest is he putting in front of his clients?
bigkahnman: SHORT RECAP PLEASE WAS ON PHONE AND MISSED ALOT
spiderman1959: Thanks for bringing the info Allan.
carverchick_2: read the scroll bigk
Earl is My Name: no one understands enough for a recap bigk
very_tired15: He fully expects ER by tomorrow. However, since there are several people who have not registered with the TA and not followed this stock as of late, he will likely refile to insure that these people get paid, even if they are late to the game. He would be doing it to insure there is no interference.
carverchick_2: yeah that's all we got lol
bigkahnman: OK THANKS
nobull1: antacid & valium cocktail sounds in order
carverchick_2: hmmmmm
cityslicker19: always
Pr125: He... does that mean Al Hodges?
carverchick_2: yes thank you
Darren1104: Hope they don't say Bush did it
Chopperguy: why should we have to wait for EVERYONE to register with the TA.........thats rediculous
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan...we understand this is a fluid situation
acerta_1: The people that are not registered (yet) seem to be a new ingredient
ground_fog: if he is going to refile anyway,why are they going to give er tomorrow? why would the govt agree to release money tomorrow if they are going to refile anyway ..makes no sense
mrsbillyray: once er is received can they stop payment?
brettwiththevikes: folks have had a long time to register
Earl is My Name: the TA knows who the shareholders are
JoeBud: If we have ER and are paid then the "stragglers" would already be included in the payout
very_tired15: I If we get paid, then refiling is irrelevant. If we do not get paid, then I agree.
cecker48_: well I am sorry to hear he will refile on behalf of the sh that have not followed this thing like the rest of us. So now we all pay the price for people not paying attention to their own stock? Bad news.
cutglass_1: man people had enough time for T/A already, i hope a few stragglers dont hold us up
very_tired15: brb
jaylar1962_1: SOOOO will we be paid now and others as they get info later iyo?
ny joe 343: Those people will not hold us up! If payment begins, it will continue until everyone is paid.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: ok allan..so basically.. we get paid..but the suit is still out there cause their are people who are registered?
JoeBud: This is or should be based on the master shareholder list
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: sorry..who arent registered
pardonmi: there are alot of people who dont know anything about the ta
ny joe 343: are NOT registered
very_tired15: sorry.. backj
Chopperguy: exactly Lucy
cityslicker19: if we ask a different plaintiff we might get a different answer ....
Chopperguy: not our problem that people dont keep up wiht their investments
cecker48_: That is their own fault IMO
cityslicker19: jk
jimbos_4: that makes no since ,,, last I heard there were only 8k signed up on TA site ,,,, there are 30 to 50k share holders
cecker48_: agree chopper
cityslicker19:
audreyhepburn_1: well if someone would make a good announcement there would be a rush on the TA!
carverchick_2: so he will allow them a certain amout of time for those people to be contacted and then he withdraws the suit?
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well..thats not the point.. point is.. do we have to wait til they get notified before anything is paid out is the question
Crashigan: What would the difference be for people who registered and who didn't? Won't the money go into a trust?
gmls66: Even though we registered already...TRansfer Agents I have spoken with at Transferonline keeps telling me that we do not need to register...>>> Aaron...especially seemed annoyed that we were bothering at all...
jymskee:
cecker48_: 100% agree audrey
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: so there must be a time frame on getting paid. sounds like that 30 day deal they were takling about
acerta_1: aren't investors not expected to keep track of their investments?
greasetx: dont think so lucy
carverchick_2: yes lucy.... there you go
JoeBud: But payment would go to all registered sharheolders on the master shareholder list
Chopperguy: now we have to wait for 30k people to register..............that could take months
spiderman1959: At this time there is no need to register with the T/A......If you have your certs that's all that counts at this time.
very_tired15: We do not have to wait until they are notified.. he never said a word about that
Crashigan: no sound
JoeBud: doesn't atter if they're registered with the TA
cecker48_: that is correct gmls66
Earl is My Name: When I registered at the TA it took just a few moments... and was practically automatic. They had all my share information already... didnt have to enter a thing except my cert #
geezer_49: no sound jac
spiderman1959: That's not me saying that......it's the T/A.
Halasy_Policy: air jac
carverchick_2: jac no sound....
billme_3: they have the master shareholder list that don't need the TA--IMO
lasko7: That sounds better Allan
pardonmi: it sounds like the people who are not on the boards whpo are shareholders need to be notifide
Trueroll: same with me Earl.
unclebuddyshere: The re-filing would be to cover those who have not recieved their cert or regrestered with the new TA. It would give them to get that done before the crooks were able to cheet them out of their money. aimho
acerta_1: open mouth for sound Jac
audreyhepburn_1: so do we have er and will there be an announcement of some kind in the next 36 hours?
TN1955: no sound
rcar202: This makes no sense...shareholders who are not registered should have nothing to do with the SEC releasing the money...sounds fishy to me
ChuckWheat: OPEN MIC----- JAC
JoeBud: Earl that'sbecause they have a database of shareholders on the master list
marantz03: no audio
iseeyou-9: no sound jac
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: i just dont understand.. its not like the govt is just agreeing to pay x amount to each..its the trust divided between shs..
jimbos_4: right spider ,,,, thats what the TA said
very_tired15: Just wait until tomorrow and see how it unfolds.. if everything AH told me is truthful, then we will al be pleased
spiderman1959: I think we just need to prepare for funds to be released and documents to sign to take receipt of same.
cecker48_: another stall tactic imo
BATES BATES: no sound jac
gram-pa D: nothing jac
caseco_1_1: no sound from jac
ATW100: still no sound jac
mrsbillyray:
carverchick_2: JAC!!!!! NO SOUND!!!!!!!!!
mooney1tx: no sound jac
cecker48_: no sound jac
Crashigan: No sound
very_tired15: Remember one thing I have always postulated? It is all about the interest. They will keep it until the last possible day and believe that day is the 17th.
antony_54: no sound
allrich: looks like the Media blitz is on Friday
spiderman1959: And I also say don't shoot the messenger.
gram-pa D: y
BATES BATES: yes
pardonmi: now you do
mrsbillyray: yes
Halasy_Policy: yes
caseco_1_1: y
Crashigan: y
mooney1tx: yes
jimbos_4: y
acerta_1: yup
carverchick_2: there you are!
Trueroll: yeppers
carverchick_2: yes
Paco49: SI
jymskee:
marantz03: good
antony_54: y
honie6: Jac, this is so confusing, I talked to the new TA, and they had all my info, and i was told, by the new TA I did not need to register ? All our info was just passed on to the new TA.
karrotsign: Very tired the Ta will be involved in the payment process?
wwdyer: y
panda_ent: y
spiderman1959: Volume is not a problem
ChuckWheat: Allan...how much confidence does AH have of ER....is he certain, near certain, or just believing it will happen?
cityslicker19: on day 44
allrich: the TA knows all bonifide shareholders already IMO
cityslicker19: LOL
tukcid: when i checked with the ta i was already registered. So if you did as the company requested and faxed in your certs then you should be good. if you did not well momma says stupid is as stupid does
ground_fog: if the refile is scaring them to pay tomorrow, it makes no sense to refile anyway..the govt would surely make sure if they release money..no refile
very_tired15: Cuch.. he spoke to me with great certainty
crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right?
very_tired15: Chuck
spiderman1959: I orginally thought the T/A would advise us but not sure if that will be the case now.
acerta_1: I hope money first then refile ... I'll be bummed to wait for the refiling to work out
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan
marantz03: Alan do we know if those that are registered are the un shareholders or a combination of Bonifieds and un shareholders???
ground_fog: alan, with all due respect , he was certain in january according to the plaintiffs
marantz03: are not registered
spiderman1959: There will be more than that happen I expect.
ny joe 343: crunchyfrogs, that is what I understand out of this as well.
unclebuddyshere: Agree Chrunchy
nfcross: Jacbert I agree
Trueroll: i agree with lucy......makes senze
Wheres-da-BEEF: Just Tell US.............give everyone 30 days to register
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: is it the ones not registered or the ones who are left in street shares?
cecker48_: Then why would the TA tell everyone they don't need to register?
vuurvliegjes: ga jacbert
nobull1: and it sound wierd
ny joe 343: (1:42 PM) crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right? > Yes, IMO
Wheres-da-BEEF: nope not going to be pretty if he refiles........if he has the ER and control of money then there is no reason to Refile
spiderman1959: Registering with the T/A is not part of the equation
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: i agree spidey
Earl is My Name: drip
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: it might mean street shares
oscart01: I agree also, spidy
carverchick_2: maybe lucy
Wheres-da-BEEF: no need to Refile IMO.......makes no sense Alan
spiderman1959: Hi Lucy.....that's the way it is
ground_fog: what is going to motivate the govt to release money if al is going to refile anyway?
JoeBud: REGISTERING WITH THE TA DOES NOT MAKE YOU A SHAREHOLDER. THE TA HAS A MASTER SHAREHOLDER LIST --- WHETHER YOU SIGN UP WITH THEM OR NOT
Wheres-da-BEEF: ER = we have the money
nobull1: something smells bad
ny joe 343: Jac, we may very well get the info from Al, or the T/A, or Allan, for that matter. We simply do not know yet.
audreyhepburn_1: somebody of authority speak out to us please
mrsbillyray: I agree jac
Wheres-da-BEEF: they can say no distribution for 90 days
ground_fog: if im the govt im saying you refile no release
vickes_11: craziness!
rcar202: right spiderman
greasetx: electronics lucy?
Dumptruck9: Is there a link to AL posting???
twinnone: Agree, Jac
royalstarofthelion: Could be a game of chicken , dont refile we'll release , he says , ok release and I wont refile , imo
jimbos_4: we need to here from AH himself
cityslicker19: ER= touchdown!
karrotsign: I apologize Very Tired when did you speak to Hodges? I missed the info
cecker48_: agree jimbo
caseco_1_1: lucy do you mean electronics? the uncerted shareholders?
CMKX1234: irefiling is to insure money actually makes it into our hands ...is what treffy said
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: yes case
jakodiamondz: Not pretty is ok. My depends won't be pretty after we're paid either.
ghowiepharts: How much would they know to pay us if others arn't registered with the TA???
Earl is My Name: No one encouraged shareholders to register at the TA. No one made a big deal about it. In fact... they downplayed the importance of it.
very_tired15: We will not have to wait for the non-registered or non-bonifieds to get notice
spiderman1959: I think we may be reading more into the facts than that which exsists. JMO but maybe I am missing something
very_tired15: He said nothing about that... he just said to insure that there is no further interfertence
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
lasko7: Thanks Allan
ATW100: thanks allan
ghowiepharts: Allan, hope so
moneyinthebank_1: this could very well be settled at the 12 hour? last minute ER?
carverchick_2: i think lucy is right it may mean shares still held at the brokers
twinnone: Right, DCK
carverchick_2: imo
ny joe 343: This could also be a case where we get paid, and they commit the lawsuit to History, by refiling with different legal language...
ujellis: Small recap PLEASE
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: we were told by the company TO register.. actually.. twice. but the ta tells you no need
Crashigan: Allan, how can they interfere with money they paid, that will got into a trust?
spiderman1959: NO THAT IS NOT RIGHT
Pr125: not logical in my view
JoeBud: Payment goes to bonifide shareholders. Bonafide shareholders are on the master shareholder list
iseeyou-9: oh boy!
breatdane1: i told my CPA what he needed to do.he said"i'll wait till i get paid".
rcar202: if this is the case it sounds to me like more smoke so shareholders don't get in an uproar when he refiles
oscart01: agree pardonmi
Earl is My Name: They KNOW who all the shareholders are.
spiderman1959: Things regarding distribution have changed
cmkxer: tyler have been telling us one thing and al is telling us another...i trust al
ATW100: Allan....will Hodges give an announcement? Or will be notified tomorrow by the TA?
cecker48_: They have had years to do this.
nobull1: houston we have a problem
dck004: good point pard
Darren1104: I'm sure Al has eyes and ears listening here
cityslicker19: its 4th down...going or throwing?
Wheres-da-BEEF: ALAN SO WHY DID MR. HODGES SAY FOR THE LAST 1.5 MONTHS THAT HE WOULD NOT REFILE......................HE KNEW ALL ALONG THAT NOT EVERYONE WAS REGISTERED WITH THE T.A. --------THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW
vickes_11: stall, stall, stall.
geezer_49: I think its for people who havent registered their certs
ATW100: The company told us to register...period
Wheres-da-BEEF: makes no sense!!!
jaylar1962_1: That is why there is a TA . To handle shareholders...If we start getting paid word will get out.
ChuckWheat: I think we're missing the important news here...Attorney Hodges has told Allan he has great confidence in getting ER by tomorrow (Allan, please correct me if I've mischaracterized this)
royalstarofthelion: Yes Dck I think that's what's happening jmo
very_tired15: Perhaps, here is the fear.. and this is my opinion.. what if ER comes, he dismisses the case tand then before peopel can get paid, someone interferes? The lawsuit will insure that such actions can not happen.
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: yes
Wheres-da-BEEF: HODGES HAS KNOWN FOR months and months that not eeryone is registered
ujellis: Very - Can you please do a small recap
spiderman1959: That is correct
Crashigan: That makes sense to me Allan
Wheres-da-BEEF: Alan are you saying we dont have an indpendent Trustee?
Earl is My Name: they know the shareholders and the shares that each shareholder has
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
moneyinthebank_1: allan, i think yo are correct, imo
ny joe 343: Beef, he may be refiling, after we are 75% paid. Let's not freak out. We've come this far, give it another day! Plenty of time to get our backs up, if need be.
ATW100: BEEF....i doubt this was that planned out....
Earl is My Name: without anyone registering
JoeBud: makes no sense to me. if they have ER then they would have control over the money
crunchyfrogs: IMO, if you had a cert issued in your name and you are not one of the bad guys, your shares are registered with the TA. Just because you haven't registered with the TA for an account, doesn't mean your shares are not registered imo.
jaylar1962_1: SO could he not files a new suit in that event?
Wheres-da-BEEF: independent trustee's ensure that nobody can wrongfully take our money
ground_fog: very tired, what is the motivation for the govt to release money tomorrow if al refiles tomorrow anyway?
nobull1: i feel sick is it just me
gram-pa D: I am with you CW
Earl is My Name: They know who has certs.
tigerherb: Ujellis, Allan's info will be reposted later
JoeBud: If they dont control the money they dont have ER
oscart01: Think about this: The PURPOSE of a sting is to catch the crooks.... not to get shareholders paid. Those in charge are focused, still, on their ultimate goal.... IMO
Wheres-da-BEEF: Plus the TA has told people that there is no need to register...........They have our addresses and names
Earl is My Name: and probably have a good grasp on those that dont
spiderman1959: We have to realize that Al H has to cover all the bases. If not he could leave us or some of us vonerable.
ujellis: can't wait till later....
very_tired15: PLease do not let this information change your perspective about tomorrow.. just let it see...
ground_fog: the govt is not going to release money unless they have an ironclad agreement no refile imo,common sense
spiderman1959: I was too Don
very_tired15: just let it play out for tomorrow...
dck004: thx allan
Wheres-da-BEEF: Alan........Yes or No.........did Hodges tell you he would probably Refile or is that just your theory?
jacbert: thanks Allan
ChuckWheat: thank you Allan
audreyhepburn_1: so is that when we will hear from them on Thursday?
JoeBud: BECAUSE OF THE MASTER SHAREHOLDER LIST
gram-pa D: Right Allan!
JoeBud: YIKES
spiderman1959: Friday is Constitution Day, Sept 17th
LBM0RRIS: is the master shareholder list the the list the TA would have?
pardonmi: never let your upper hand down imo
karrotsign: Very tired you expect news tomorrow from Al?
very_tired15: Even if ER happens, not everyone will collect by tomorrow... to keep pressure that there will not be interference, that is the issue and the reason for refiling..
ny joe 343: he may be refiling, after we are 75% paid. Let's not freak out. We've come this far, give it another day! Plenty of time to get our backs up, if need be.
CMKX1234: treffy i hope you are right....i am feeling chest pains....
very_tired15: I fully expect news byt AH tomorrow
crunchyfrogs: IMO, shareholders who are not registered with the TA are those who hold electronic shares on which certs were never issued.
breatdane1: what does er mean?
tom4212: If there is a gag order on the news media I would think there is a gag order on Hodges and the team
Wheres-da-BEEF: still makes no sense alan
karrotsign: Ty Very tired
mrsbillyray: so the media will be able to cover it tomorrow along with the refile
iseeyou-9: here we go a new spin on it
Wheres-da-BEEF: if we get ER there is no need to refile plain and simple
marantz03: i've worn the edge out, lolo
carverchick_2: as usual lol
BTHotwheels: Hello... Im just getting back in... any thing new to report?
lasko7: Understood Allan thanks
yungmlnr36: Whoever is releasing money...Why wait until the very LAST day for ER...
pooch1: I'm on the edge of my chair Jac
JoeBud: hurting shareholders all over again imo thru lack of official communication
jymskee: JAC is a cool cucumber. It is what it is
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
ground_fog: very tired, once again, why would the govt agree to releasing money if al refiles anyway..if im the govt i'm saying ..you refile? no soup for you
jaylar1962_1: And at that point if there are SH who are screwed out of their $ they could sue the pants off the wrong doers
Wheres-da-BEEF: everything is Crystal Cloudy as usual like royal likes to say
very_tired15: Beef,. he said he would do it no matter what... because they waited so long, he did not want to make us vulnerable and only dfep-endent on them keeping their word that there would be no interference..
Crashigan: Beef, until you get money in hand then it is over
carverchick_2: crunchy i agree with your statement above
unclebuddyshere: Thanks Allen. I have been expecting this.
ATW100: crunchyfrogs: OK, here's what I see in Allan's posting..... Al expects ER by tomorrow, which means those of us registered with the TA will be paid. Al may refile anyway to ensure those who have not registered with the TA will still be taken care of. Am I getting this right?
breatdane1: jacbert.. what does er mean?thanks
nobull1: im sitting on the edge of my chair on the edge of a cliff
mrsbillyray: yep
very_tired15: I believe that tyo be true...
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
yungmlnr36: Allan... dd you speak with Al today?
cityslicker19: next to my GOT CMKX? bumper sticker i put a
Trueroll: economic receipt
ground_fog: Hodges should never have been so emphatic about no refile after being lied to for nine months..bad judgement
mrsbillyray: standoff
breatdane1: thanks true
Wheres-da-BEEF: So Alan if thats true then the refile will be filled with FLUFF? bc if Al Hodges puts damning information into the Refile............why on earth would the government tolerate that?
Skylope: I think it is a wise move for Al
ny joe 343: Let me say something here... Al has brought us this far, and if he announces ER tomorrow, and we start getting paid, I firmly believe he will do whatever he thinks he HAS to do, to protect us and get us ALL paid. If that means a Refile, after money starts transferring, no problem, IMO. It is insurance!
very_tired15: yes
JoeBud: headbang
jimbos_4: right Royal
ChuckWheat: link for getting your certs registered with the TA http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/ind....ay&thread=14465
spiderman1959: Waht would you do?
very_tired15: yes
pardonmi: he has to keep the hammer
carverchick_2:
jacbert: Sounds like Alladin and the Lamp
Wheres-da-BEEF: Royal with damning/incriminating information in the Refile?
karrotsign: IMO the Government will wait till the eleventh hour.
unclebuddyshere: Agree Royal
lasko7: Agreed joe
ATW100: sounds good NYJO...just pay us first...lol
carverchick_2: AH has to keep the upper hand imo
Skylope: he does not have a choice
vickes_11: i'm going to start telling the IRS and creditors that their payment is IMMENINT!
nobull1: i hope so royal
burke1: remember we have a lying, steeling, cheating GOV.
Halasy_Policy: good point, royal, and it would be very nice if Al told us this directly
spiderman1959: This shows that he is a great lawyer
carverchick_2: keep the offense not play defense
gscraig: SQUACK!
jimbos_4: only way it could happen to protect us ,,,, royal
Trueroll: i agree with you royal...makes perfect sense
caseco_1_1: got his spurs on.
Earl is My Name: shareholders can be grouped 3 ways... 1] no certs; 2] certs; 3] certs that are registered at the TA. #2 and #3 can overlap because not all cert holders registered. But the TA knows everyone and share count in groups 2 and 3. I dont know what they know about group #1.
ny joe 343: Right
JoeBud: Why wait until the deadline?
burke1: yes royal
ontheroad_1: I have to agree that it would make sense to refile just because the powers that be have pushed the payment to the last day
Darren1104: vickes, good luck lol
Wheres-da-BEEF: With damning/incriminating information in the Refile?
spiderman1959: I can assure you that he is well prepared
moneyinthebank_1: i agree
spiderman1959: no way
Trueroll: 100%
caseco_1_1:
very_tired15: If we would have had ER a month ago, he would not be talking refile... maybe even a few days ago... but they can tell him they have ER on a promise, and then they screw us.. that is the poiint
karrotsign: I agree Royal he must act.
marantz03: right on Royal
nobull1: yes royal leverage
DodgeRam: yes i agree royal
JoeBud: For pressure it would have made more sense to file a month ago
cityslicker19: for 44 days NO file NO file No file
mrsbillyray: your right royal
unclebuddyshere: He has the what Royal? lol
PMAKUA63:
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS: royal
oscart01: IF he refiles ..... then he is free to release the bomb.
carverchick_2: that's true to
carverchick_2: too
ny joe 343: Regarding what Lucy said, he has the option of changing the legal language, so as not to get in trouble by refiling, after payment has started.
spiderman1959: The STING IS OVER.....has to come from the government
pardonmi: lol
xmarxdaspot_1donegone: Will Al Have to show his hand when he refiles
nobull1: now he should tell us
jimbos_4: if we get ER ,,, we know we are getting paid ,,,, by AH filing it protects us
cmkx_thehunter: That's most logic I've heard today Royal
karrotsign: Y
carverchick_2: stay the course
very_tired15: AH can dismiss a=fter he is 100% sure we all have access
tigerherb: Who ever blinks first loses
lasko7: That's what Allan is saying IMO
Jay247Atl_1: time is up now!
moneyinthebank_1: huge
Jay247Atl_1: Just Do It!
Trueroll: correct ~!!!!
ny joe 343: very_tired15: AH can dismiss a=fter he is 100% sure we all have access > That's all that needs to be said.
DrStrangeGlove: this is exciting - I no longer have to deliver babies if we get ER!
rcar202: royal i know what you are saying.but refile to me means just more and more time we wait imo
spiderman1959: They don't want the evidence in the public view.....the markets are too fragile to allow it.
very_tired15: REmember, it is all about interest.... they were going to keep the money until the last possible date..
extex95_1: Al is a very smart man. Has all bases covered. Plan A, Plan B and so on. Contingincy planning.
PMAKUA63: kick their butt al
jburke5: If he files, then the damaging information cannot be taken back. Someone is pretty stupid to force his hand.
lasko7: Thanks Allan...bbl have a great afternoon...and thanx for sharing Allan
JoeBud: IF HE NEEDED A HAMMER WHY DIDN'T HE REFILE A MONTH AGO? TO KEEP ON PRESSURE?
karrotsign: THe gov has fought us every step of the way imo
jimbos_4: me too
gscraig: Is that a hammer in your pocket or are you glad to see me? LOL
cecker48_: It is way to hard to keep faith when you promise, delay, promise, delay.
carverchick_2: gs LOLOL
spiderman1959: They had better not underestimate Mr. Hodges. That would be bad for them/
Halasy_Policy: this is all well and fine... if this is the case... but would only be reassuring if Al himself states it directly to us this way from his mouth to our ears
jacbert: low scotty
PMAKUA63: royal
extex95_1: It's just like a Commander in the battle field.
karrotsign: Yes Thank you
pardonmi: never throw your hand in
nobull1: if he refiles what is the last possible date we get payed
ny joe 343: My vote is to support Al, at least for the time being. He has shown his stuff, and I believe that he will take us to the Finish Line. Relax people.
rcar202: thats right joe why wait to refile???
vickes_11: I say throw the sledge hammer down now. They have screwed US long to far!
gscraig: scotty, talk up!
tigerherb: Yes Thank You Allan
Jay247Atl_1: Just refile today
karrotsign: Amen Scott
very_tired15: I am personally sorry for first delivering info that there is no need to refile.. and changing it.. I do not think I was used, but I believe the change is a genuine and well-thought out one
marantz03: would be very nice Halsay!!
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
tigerherb:
nobull1: royal
yungmlnr36: thanks for the info, Allan
carverchick_2: we appreciate everything you can bring us allan
cmkxer: hey allan, if the gov is going to keep the interest, then they shouldn't tax us for the rest of our life.
geezer_49: royal
cecker48_:
happytime3: Will AH communicate to us himself?
nobull1: ouch peach seeds
unclebuddyshere: Royal your on a roll today. lol
extex95_1: Allen everyone has to be flexable when it comes to cmkx.
gscraig: Tired, is this correct: Al MAY refile to protect those who registrations with the TA are incorrect, or who are not registered. And this will IN NO WAY affect or delay payment to those who are correctly registered with the TA? Do I have that right?
cityslicker19:
cityslicker19: 91/2
ChuckWheat: No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy
extex95_1: yes u have. LOL
geezer_49: uh oh
marantz03: exactly
ny joe 343: Scenario #1: ER is announced, Moneys begin to transfer (thursday), Friday, Al refiles, Monday through Friday next week, all payments received, Lawsuit dropped.
moneyinthebank_1: allen, could we still be getting the packets delivered today or tomorrow?
carverchick_2: poker face.........
pardonmi: maheu at his best
marantz03: knowing it would get out
Trueroll: you are spot on royal
spiderman1959: And he did NOT IMO
nobull1: what is the new date if refile and the gov is milking us for max intrest
very_tired15: Craig, he is going to refile to insure that the ER is real and that we all can be paid
pardonmi: confusion
Pr125: NY Joe that makes sense.
billme_3: question--- _______who will get the $$$ for all the shares that people have passed on or just forgot about things-where will that $$ go?
iseeyou-9: the re-file is not a shock to me...
spiderman1959: He didn't
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....?
ujellis: Or will he hold back
flugelbinder: refile or no refile,as long as we get payed !
very_tired15: since they waited to the last kminute, they could falsely represent that ER is real, but then interfere.. then we would have let the lasuit go and had one of our big hammers taken away
jimbos_4: nyjoe good plan but they would have 30 day to get all the money out to share holders
moneyinthebank_1: he wont show his "hand" but he will have to give something up in the refile?
spiderman1959: he has performed.....in true Maheu form IMO
cecker48_: We all carry our own crosses to bear, including this stock. immo
ny joe 343: Scenario # 1 is the only one I am entertaining, at least until Friday. No need to be upset here. Personally, I believe we are GOLDEN, already!
pardonmi: spider thats maheu
spiderman1959: Yes sir Pardonmi
very_tired15: no sound
rcar202: nyjoe i bet you are wrong
nobull1: is the media gag really over?
ground_fog: alan, can we expect another copy andpaste update tomorrow for hodges?
Lynn64: yes he does alan
ny joe 343: jimbos, AH would not let it go on that long, no way.
moneyinthebank_1: I BELIEVE FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, WE ARE DONE>>>
cecker48_: I sure would like to see that "hammer"! :0
crunchyfrogs: It is understandable that Al will refile if the ER comes at the deadline date for refiling. ER does not mean we have money in our hands. It is wise on Al's part to refile to ensure ER is followed by distribution.
very_tired15: you tell me ground
spiderman1959: He has kept the goal in front of him.
billme_3: file no matter what keep the threat of exposure-a reality--just do it AH
1970moneymaker1970: what do you think rcar?
BATES BATES: I really hope he doesnt just refile and leave us in the dark
billme_3: just file baby
ny joe 343: rcar, my bets were placed 7 years ago. I am not interested in any more bets.
spiderman1959: The man has video tape and audio to prove his case.
very_tired15: is there sound?
rcar202: refile means 30 more days
billme_3: just like a squeeze
Lynn64: yes alan
carverchick_2: yes allan
extex95_1: yes vt
happytime3: yes
BATES BATES: A refile with no info to shareholders will be a disaster
geezer_49: yes
very_tired15: I have to reboot
ground_fog: alan,you didnt answer my question, but if im the govt im not releasing funds if al is refiling anyway
Darren1104: what if
unclebuddyshere: If Al re-files the gag order will be extended by the judge. jmo
spiderman1959: They will be screwed. Well said
moneyinthebank_1: correct
PMAKUA63: amen
geezer_49: When Attorney Hodges does tell me it is done, I will still remain calm, slowly get out my chair, walk over to the dining room table, make sure I am calm, then I will leap up on the table, punch my fist in the air, holler in an undignified way...hey I am only human. Please stay grounded......Thank you, BHollenegg
spiderman1959: Doesn't matter
caseco_1_1: lol pardon
ny joe 343: rcar, that is a possibility, it is certainly not, a GIVEN.
jfarn: Then why the hell did tell multiple that we will NEVER refile
tigerherb: yes
Earl is My Name: Now that would be an exciting attachment to the refile spiderman: spiderman1959: The man has video tape and audio to prove his case.
geezer_49: y
pardonmi: yes
jimbos_4: y
Lynn64: y
diamondman_1: y
jacbert: good
PMAKUA63: y
jfarn: that is tipping your hand...
cecker48_: yy
mahastock1_1: You got to know when to hold them. Know when to fold them. Know when to walk away and, know when to run.
caseco_1_1: good cruncy
spiderman1959: yes perfect
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....? Or will he hold back
burke1: IMO since we know this now, he has already refiled
Lynn64: think you need a scroll test
flugelbinder: Now we will be happy with the refile,lol
BATES BATES: prob burke
diamondman_1: I heard the frogs a crunching
ujellis: So if Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile....? ° Or will he hold back
flugelbinder: refile no refile
cityslicker19: the ol switcharoo
BATES BATES: what if he refiles and we havent received any ER ?
msMarkus415: My question is if he refiles will that be open to the public or can the courts keep it quiet. If it becomes public record can the court have the information sealed?
pardonmi: correct
mahastock1_1: Who trusts the government, raise your hand.
geezer_49: exactly
Crashigan: Its not over until we get money in our hand
GOTCMKXDIAMONDS:
ChuckWheat: if we get ER...it's over for those who have been paying attention and registered IMO. Filing in this scenario only helps those who have not been paying attention
Lynn64: what if he's waited the full amount of time and we see nothing but more delay?
jimbos_4: right
tigerherb:
royalstarofthelion: Excatly
pardonmi: recourse is where it lies
BATES BATES: yes lynn
ground_fog: he should ahve said that all along thoughm instead of leading us on...surely he knew this plan yesterday and was prepared for this
jymskee: right on Crunchy
BATES BATES: my thoughts too
ny joe 343: The old Bouncing Ball Syndrome... Let's see what really happens tomorrow and Friday. Not blowing a cork, because of "What-If's".
cityslicker19: why havent we been paid?
brettwiththevikes: one press of a button pays everyone at once..could be done in minutes...seems more to this than we are seeing
rcar202: than why wait 45 days to refile,makes no sense
ground_fog: he had to have been prepared for this scenario..so why friggin insist no refile..thats my problem..oh well
nobull1: if you turn over the evidence the judge see's it but he also has proof we got payed that would satisfy the demand for the release of the trusts and it over????
very_tired15: I would agree... do you want to trust the powers that be to suddenly do what they say? Governments are notorious for breaking their words.. ask the American Indians, the Japanese Internment victims, Black Farmers, so man others...
pardonmi: i dont allen
Earl is My Name: If there is any merit to that press gag... and many press outlets are so eager to report on this story... then you better believe that there are newspaper articles and television content already written up ready to add Al Hodges' information and evidence...
carverchick_2: pfffffft i doubt it
audreyhepburn_1: this is a good strategy when dealing with miscreats
billme_3: Alen if you are a Plaintiff -you must request him to re-file
very_tired15: However, we NEED news of ER TOMORROW.. not Saturday, but TOMORROW
jymskee: refiling is just an insurance policy
billme_3: he works for you
mahastock1_1: very tired. that is why I would have filed it the next day.JMO
mahastock1_1: no extra time
ground_fog: very tired, Hodges should have expected this and not been so emphatic about no refile imo
jimbos_4: or today very-tired
BATES BATES: I am thinking about cleaning my house, but considering I might have a new house tomorrow, ill wait lol
very_tired15: or today...
pardonmi: and he gave them an extra 15 days
ny joe 343: As disappointed as I am with all of the delays to date, I am confident that we are on the precipice of massive success. I WILL NOT turn negative at this juncture.
cecker48_: Hope your right jymskee
pardonmi: so there is no excuse for the gov
karrotsign: Very tired how long does Hodges have to refile?
very_tired15: UNtil Friday the 17th
BATES BATES: friday
pardonmi: they are playing with the wrong man
unclebuddyshere: Ground-fog: It was just another card that had to be plaied. jmo
karrotsign: Ty Very Tired
Earl is My Name: If I (and you) cant start spending my (your) money... it would be negligent not to refile... and refile good. Embarass them. And throw in the kitchen sink.
spiderman1959: not a chance in H*** he will let his guard down
doggoneit_1: I wish he would refile and tell them to stick it where the sun dont shine. lol
jimbos_4: I thought it was 4:00pm tomorrow very-tired
erthtunes: gm guys
ujellis: Very when did you talk to Al...?
ny joe 343: I think I'll go clean out the garage.
royalstarofthelion: yes
pardonmi: he gave them an extra 15 days
msMarkus415: Can they seal the court documents if he drops the case?
very_tired15: I think they knew how long it would take for Basel to be done.. they used our money for recapitalization
spiderman1959: there is no need
ujellis: man sure do sound like he has proof
new day_20: Joe...Is that so you will have room to put your money?
erthtunes: exactly marantz- that was my point weeks ago- he has to re-file
jymskee: not unexpected that they will wait till the last second
happytime3: if the gag is over they are really taking a chance in having the evidence publicized
very_tired15: I spoke to AH yesterday
cecker48_: If he refiles anyway no matter what, then that gives them a reason to delay even longer.
cecker48_: imo
new day_20: Or getting ready to sell it...
ChuckWheat: agreed...by refiling he preserves his ability to continue action until this thing is done
Crashigan: 7 percent????
ujellis: thanks
Crashigan: I didn't know that
ny joe 343: LOL NewDay, no... I wish I HAD a garage, LOL
erthtunes: untill we all have been paid- you gotta hold the big hammer
unclebuddyshere: Remember that the SEC will still have 30 days after Al re-files.
ChuckWheat: personally, I see no bad news in this update
iseeyou-9: just a tea spoon of sugar helps the medicine go down, in the most delightful way IMO
BATES BATES: y
pardonmi: yes
geezer_49: y
gram-pa D: y
cecker48_: LOL iseeyou
tigerherb: yes
rcar202: that is soooo right uncle
iseeyou-9:
erthtunes: we all take it too the wire- do we pay our bills early? most of us don't
spiderman1959: They best not push Al to make evidence public
jaylar1962_1: Two points....if they indeed get to keep some or all interest then they will wait till the last minute, other is if he does get ER and still files will they push this out the 30 day response time the Sec has to answer.
ny joe 343: There's no WAY that Al would do this, if it wasn't in O U R best interests. Why Bother?
ujellis: Very - When Al refiles will he put in important info in the refile Or will he hold back...?
very_tired15: I would imagine that he would wait until thurs or fri...
ratnaraj: Even if/when Al refiles it buys the gov't 30 days to respond.
nobull1: better mix a little prozac in with that teaspoon of sugar
wodan11: this must be it me and flugel at the same time on vacation pffff
very_tired15: ujells.. deoends on if ER comes first
zuki2004: is there an update from Al today???
very_tired15: depends
happytime3: maybe AH is putting them on notice that he is planning to refile so they produce the ER
ujellis: k thanks
ujellis: man I need a Drink
spiderman1959: How many settlements are made on the courthouse steps?
nobull1:
Earl is My Name: If this law suit died... aren't there 39,993 other shareholders that could bring the same sort of law suit? And really pour on the damaging evidence?
spiderman1959: Right on
Lynn64: there's always a way to spin every delay to the positive...
moneyinthebank_1: exactly, on the court house steps
happytime3: Well we really did not think this was gonna be easy given the history behind CMKX
fiddlehead_39a: Wodan,,hope you have a nice vacation
johncraig_1_1: I have only one thing to say....PAY US AND PAY US NOW!
very_tired15: just hang in there folks.. nothing has changed in substance.. he still is confident that ER is coming this week... he is just insuring they follow through with it
ny joe 343: Well, if the lid comes off the press gag tomorrow, and Al refiles, and they jerk us around, this will become a VERY public story in no time at all. I don't see that happening.
jymskee: If he refiles then the press balckout is lifted then we see the hammer on the news stations . Thats what they have to prevent
wodan11: ty
jimbos_4: the refile needs to be done by tomorrow at 4:00PM ,,,, very-tired count the days again ,,, don't want AH to miss that date
maximiliaan11: Wodan where you going?
unclebuddyshere: I want to see someone deliver 3.87tril. to the courthouse steps. lol
msMarkus415: Could he refile in the judges chambers?
flugelbinder: lol wodan,i am leaving tomorrow too
CMKX1234: if we got paid a long time ago...many would have lost most of it...and that's a fact imo
Crashigan: Allan does he seem more confident than past times?
wodan11: nor de zee in holland me de paarden
flugelbinder: we both picked the right date to go on vacation
fiddlehead_39a: Hey Flugel,,you also
flugelbinder: yes
maximiliaan11: pietzakken
Earl is My Name: If money isnt flowing into our mattresses by 4PM tomorrow its negligent not to refile. JMO
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